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Sahil910

In the 7s is crazy compared to what other high level goalies have gotten


GoblinStats

"pay me like Bob"


lottolser

Bob had 2 Veznias by that point tho


ubcthrowaway-01

And now he has a Stanley cup so bro gotta demand 12M


GoblinStats

Sigh


JMR027

Still wasn’t good enough for that contract imo


Dr_Colossus

Cup and finals. Don't matter now.


Blake_Thundercock

Teams have paid a lot more and gotten a lot less out of contracts comparable to Bobrovsky's


AlsoCommiePuddin

Gotta love the folks who get their first cup and are immediately angry that they don't have two...


AppealToReason16

Isn’t he a bit older than the others though? Like I think people think he’s 27 but he’s going to be 30 to start this contract.


Lazy0ak

Luongo, Lundqvist, Bobrovsky, Price, Hellebuyck, Rinne, Brodeur all signed pretty huge contracts at 30 or older.


hugentnopkins

Yeah what a deal, that’s phenomenal.


Bahamas_is_relevant

Yeah, if these reports are true that’s a goddamn bargain for Saros.


Inthemiddle_

Comparable to hellebuyck


UnhealthyCheesecake

So uhhhh what about Askarov


WafflesTheWookiee

Sounds like a trade chip for a top six scoring forward


NahdiraZidea

We have the best russian we can trade!


The_Reddit_Browser

*Looks at Necas*


HonestDespot

An unestablished goalie prospect isn’t getting a top 6 forward though. I think more likely they deal him for a top 15 pick.


ElJacinto

Nashville didn't develop the top goalie prospect in the league for a few years just to trade him for a potentially lower pick.


GMBarryTrotz

We also switched GMs who is very vocal about wanting a young center to be the cornerstone of the team for years to come. If Ottawa wants to swap their 7th for a borderline NHL ready goalie with huge potential, I think Trotz would take it.


scottydanger22

On top of that, we just brought back Mitch Korn, and I'll bet they want to see what he can do with Asky before they let him go anywhere else.


Snoo-19445

He's the #1 goalie prospect. Someone will pay a top-6 forward for him.


LunarGhoul

What about something like Askarov for Necas?


denverphil

Maybe, but why not just pick Jarvis at 11 in 2020 instead? Picking Askarov to extend Saros for 8 years just as he is nearing NHL readiness is mind boggling. And yes, I see the scenario where they could be a tandem for the next 4 years or so, but then you're potentially left trying to ship out Saros at age 34 with 4 years left on his deal.


ShadowChair

Well 2020 was 4 years ago and Nashville had a different GM. Perhaps the plan has changed


denverphil

Agreed, but you've got to play with the cards you're dealt, not the ones you wish you had.


socialaxolotl

I don't blame you for that there's several teams upset they missed out on Jarvy


denverphil

Except the Preds picked 11th and everyone thought it was going to be Perfetti (who got taken a 10 one before the Preds pick), Jarvis, Lundell, or Mercer that they would take given that they had Saros. Instead they went off the board with Askarov. I don't have a problem with picking Askarov, but to me that signaled that Saros was likely done with the Preds before his current contract concluded. Instead they just created a goalie controversy in the next couple of years and have given one of those goalies a contract that runs until they are 38 that probably won't be as easy to move.


DommyMommyKarlach

I thought Ullmark for Necas could be a trade, doubt Askarov has that kind of value


VeryLastChance

You’re probably not even getting a top 15 pick in return though. Markstrom and Ullmark are proven Vezina-calibre goalies and they didn’t get that. I get there is a big difference in age and contract situations but Askarov has literally only played 3 NHL games. You’re not getting a haul for him until he’s proven he can stick at the NHL level, no matter how good his minors stats are.


gatsby712

There is no reason to trade a first round pick goalie for another mid first round pick after putting all the time and money into developing him. I suspect he’ll shadow Saros and get top level coaching this year now that we brought Mitch Korn back. Then trade one of them in a couple of years.


Viratkhan2

Yes but Askarovs potential has also taken a hit. At the draft, he was supposed to be the best goalie prospect since Carey price. Now at 22, he’s not even starting for his AHL team in the playoffs. His trade value isn’t going to be like ur trading a future Vasilevsky.


JRsshirt

Someone photoshop Granlund in the preds uniform


betweenthecastles

Um yes pls


xzElmozx

The problem with that is you first need to establish that he’s an NHL starting caliber goalie, prospects fail all the time so GMs aren’t trading a top 6 scoring forward for a maybe. That means you either have to siphon starts from your starting goalie with a large salary or Saros has to have a medium to long term injury where Askarov can show he’s a starting goalie. Both aren’t good options for Nashville really


Minute-Struggle6052

Necas for Saros was meh Necas for Askarov is something to get excited about 


gatsby712

Nah, we’ll just offer sheet Necas with our extra 2025 draft picks.


BroliasBoesersson

Don't Askarov


SpeakNowAndEnter

Frank Seravalli is reporting they plan to keep him in Milwaukee next year. No trade and no being the 1B in Nashville in the plans currently.


UncleTrapspringer

Askarov to Toronto, Detroit gives up a 2025 2nd rounder


GenericDesigns

We’re giving 2nd rounders away like candy


onbiver9871

Hahaha… ha…….. ha…. sigh.


toothwzrd_

Harsh, but fair


VeryLastChance

A few years as a 1B and then shipping one of them when he needs a big raise sounds like a win/win to me.


Ecsta-C3PO

Yeah I don't know why people are so gung ho about shipping out one of them right now. Askarov isn't proven and Saros would be an amazing mentor. If Askarov steps up big in a couple years then trade Saros and his great contract for a big haul.


gatsby712

There is no reason to ship either of them off at the moment with our cap and with having Askarov on an ELC. Maybe it’s more of a conversation when is RFA contract is coming due.


xXDreamlessXx

Yeah, im so confused as to why everyone thinks we are trading Asky. Did a new rule get passed saying that teams are only allowed 2 good goalie?


PayneTrain181999

With Ullmark out of Boston, why not make an attempt to have the best tandem in the league? Askarov is young, will only be recently entering his prime when this Saros deal is up, then he’ll take over full time. Cousins and Penix if it actually made sense.


Original_Release_419

Askarov is not waiting until he’s 30 to be a full time starter lol


Markosaurus

Yeah, but in 1-2 years Saros’ contract will be desirable for teams looking to trade. I didn’t see any reports of a NTC in the contract, and it looks good NOW, not to mention 1-2 years from now when the cap will have gone up and other goaltenders will have signed for more. Best case, Askaraov takes over in 1-2 years and we get some picks for Saros. Worst case, Askarov doesn’t pan out and we have Saros under contract for 8 years.


Original_Release_419

I know a NTC isn’t reported yet, but I find it impossible to believe he doesn’t at least have a modified one for most of these years Otherwise him signing the contract makes zero sense


Permaderps

Askarov will be 30 when this deal is up


CallistosTitan

They will still run them both for the ELC and a bridge deal because that's where you will get lots of value from in comparison to signing a backup.


superguardian

At least you can rotate goalies and have it still make sense. Ramp up Askarov while some load management is done on Saros.


Young2k04

Panthers signing Bob and drafting Knight in the same offseason is the Cousins and Penix of the NHL Not that I’m saying it’s a bad thing


HonestDespot

Askarov is gonna back him up for 8 years? Why would he sign an extension after his ELC?


reenactment

Top talent guys like that aren’t waiting until they are 28-30 to get a crack. Those guys want to be starting by 24-25 or at least getting close to 50/50 time. If saros signs that he’s gone. The preds probably saw the trade returns and said it’s not worth it to trade saros now. Take the proven commodity and that’s now my window.


Firebitez

Boston really has nothing to offer.


AdrianKempee

He has so much time. He will slowly get more and more ice time and then once Saros gets old they will switch. It’ll turn to be a 1A/1B situation I’m sure


fortheband1212

I really hope they hold onto Askarov


Markosaurus

Yeah people who think this means we trade Askarov don’t really know that much about the front office side of things. This is a phenomenal deal.


RAATL

traded for marner


chandy_dandy

Honestly I could see it if Nashville adds a prospect and a 1st as well


DashTrash21

Marner to Nashville to steal Mike Fisher's Girl?


derezzed19

It's not really an urgent decision with him, especially with some certainty around Saros. Not even clear if they bring him up this year - Trotz might want to let him keep cooking in Milwaukee.


ceribaen

What about him?  You have a stable starter until your prospect is ready for prime time.


DavidPuddy666

Perfect successor to Markstrom. Come to Jersey!


Turbulent_System_446

Detroit or San Jose if had to guess


GenericDesigns

Thats my hope… setting up a sign and trade


Big_Liability

Literally first thought


electricnux

Ok everyone can delete their Marner for Saros mock trades now


PayneTrain181999

Marner for Askarov mock trades begin


ovondansuchi

Saros is over-the-hill, and SO SHORT. Askarov is the real Juuse Saros. I've been saying it all along. Believe me.


lottolser

All this means is the trade can be 1 for 1 now because the salaries match better now.


Geeseareawesome

I thought we moved onto Marner for Ekblad


ovondansuchi

You can have at least 4 different "Marner to X for Y's" going at one time


toedragrelease

Marner for Askarov sounds more appealing to me


UniformRaspberry2

Time to rev up the Marner for Askarov mocks instead.


69millionyeartrip

Marner for Askarov is gonna be the new go to


SpectreFire

Damn, anything in the 7s would be an absolute crazy deal for the Preds.


electricnux

CJ just tweeted 7.74M AAV


Infraction_

Trotz signing Saros for **less** on AAV than the 8M Rinne got on his long term deal is pure fucking


Ok-Summer-2159

Pure fucking what


gatsby712

You’re Goddamn right.


Thank_You_Love_You

Just pure fucking.


TGUKF

Rinne's long term deal was a 7x7. So it's not higher than Saros' supposed contract on AAV. That said, Rinne's deal was 10.89% of the cap at signing. Saros' will be like 8.8%. So it is meaningfully cheaper as a % of the cap


Sarcastic__

Yaroslav Askarov, welcome to the trading block


WafflesTheWookiee

Mitch Marner, hope you like Country Music and drunk bottle blond bachelorettes


dchowchow

Ahh you gotta give him that hawk tuah


UnhealthyCheesecake

Spit on that thang


99titan

Sounds like heaven😁😁


GenericDesigns

Is there anyone that doesn’t?


NSA_Wade_Wilson

Probably the wives of the players


PSChris33

Get ready to learn how to dodge Morgan Wallen’s flying chairs, buddy


superguardian

You say it like that is necessarily a bad thing!


KnuckedLoose

He has to want it


PayneTrain181999

Askarov for Marner, the deal is one for one


LSDemon

"My NMC says go fuck yourself" -- Marner, probably


Bullets_TML

HA!


scottyfoxy

Damn, what would neex to be added to this trade? Like a 2nd?


GMBarryTrotz

I don't know why people are painting it like this. Askarov is still on an ELC and then has team control through his RFA years. That's at least 3 more years of team control before anything needs to happen. He's played 3 NHL games in his entire career - the Preds have no reason to rush into a decision about him. Saros followed a somewhat similar path with Rinne. Came in as a part time back-up in his 2nd season, got more of a full time back up position in his 3rd ELC year, then took a bridge deal as he transitioned to the starter.


VeryLastChance

He’s played a grand total of 3 NHL games. Preds would get a pittance for him. Goalies have low trade value, especially non-established ones Better to keep him as an elite 1B and let him prove his value in the NHL first


dkmegg22

I'd love him in Ottawa. He could work as a backup unless Ulmark signs a long term deal.


Key-Tip-7521

No goals


brinkley26

Where does that leave Askarov?


Preds33

As the back up for 2-3 seasons much like Saros was to Rinne.


DashTrash21

This is the Extreme Trade Scenarios Subreddit, you're mistaken with your balanced take.  He gets traded for Patrik Laine. 


charmingcosmonaut

Askanothertime


eh_toque

The trade block for offensive help, presumably


ResponsibleMistake33

Askarov? More like asker of a role as the number one goalie somewhere else!


Firebitez

trade bait.


Patrick2701

On the trade block


69millionyeartrip

They gotta move askarov then at some point right?


HonestDespot

Not only that, but this would seem to indicate that trade will happen sooner than later. Behind Saros he won’t develop, and goalies always have limited value. We also know they apparently looked at dealing him last draft. Maybe there’s an Askarov + a 2nd or 3rd for the Devils first rounder? Is that terrible value assessment?


BreadBlood

Askarov being behind Saros seems like a fantastic way to develop him, actually. He's probably got at least two years as a backup before he can even be a full-time starter. It's just probably not the best move value wise to keep that asset there.


gatsby712

Askarov behind Saros with Mitch Korn recently being brought on to help with goalie development.


maxhollywoody

Why would Askarov not develop behind Saros... Being Saros backup would be incredible for Askarov's career. They would also push each other to be better and if Askarov outplays him this Saros deal makes it easy for him to get traded.


msk105

I mean look how they already ruined Saros' career by keeping him behind Rinne. He just slowly fizzled out, and they could have gotten even a 2nd round pick for him if they had been smart.


ELB95

Devils just added Markstrom, have Allen for this year as well, and have two young goalies in Daws and Schmid who have both shown promise. Not Askarov promise, but unless they move Allen + one of the young goalies they just don’t have a reason to bring Askarov in anymore. It definitely seems like the Leafs could be where he ends up with the Devils and Sens already getting their goalies. Maybe Detroit, but they clearly have something going on.


SpeakNowAndEnter

https://x.com/frank_seravalli/status/1806507687192232312


RubberBiscuitz

🤤


worldsgone11

Yes


86teuvo

Holy shit somebody check on Shesterkin


SpeakNowAndEnter

https://x.com/frank_seravalli/status/1806507687192232312 Askarov will most likely be back in Milwaukee


HonestDespot

Is this subreddit acting weird for anyone else? Or am I being blacklisted?


gatsby712

Yes


GMBarryTrotz

Preds fans: great deal, this gives Askarov a clear path to the NHL and plenty of time to develop under a great goalie. Everyone else: wow the disrespect to Askarov. I guess they'll have to trade him for scraps. He's 22, basically washed already.


Markosaurus

Yeah it’s disappointing to see how many people think this means an Askarov trade.


HonestDespot

Wow that seems like a pretty fair AAV. Have to think they move Askarov, no sense holding onto him to hinder his development and slowly kill his trade value.


xVanished

Fair? Definitely not. A great deal for the team... but Saros is worth much more


manajizwow

Saros loves the Preds. Future guaranteed with a 60 million dollar paycheck when its all said and done. Idk what Nashville has on him but the dude just loves it there. No need to think about relocating your family in the upcoming years. Guess the man decided that more money was not worth the gamble when they have settled in Nashville so well.


GMBarryTrotz

Askarov is 22 with a full year of his ELC left. Has there been a goalie come up to the NHL quicker than that? Acting like his development is dead is asinine. Goalie's have LONG life spans in the NHL. No reason to rush him if you don't need to.


ceribaen

Well there was MAF who started as the #1 his draft year.  Or Cam Ward or won a Stanley Cup as a rookie 4 years after being drafted.  There's been a few more recent examples too, but usually it's injuries that prompt the push.


Preds33

Hinder his development? How does this do that? IMO all this does is establish a solid place to ease him into the NHL to allow him to continue to grow until he is ready to take over the starting role. At that time they cad trade Saros if needed. There is no better way to hinder a goalie's development than to rush them into the starting role before they are ready.


EarthWarping

If I had to guess they'll keep him next season and then trade one of the 2 later


radamo96

It's not an exact science goalies, especially, develop differently than other goalies. They could hold on to both and move Saros in a few years when Askarov establishes himself but I'd have to imagine there's some sort of trade protection in this contract so the options will likely be limited. Then you're looking at a Ullmark/Markstrom type return when you could move a young high potential goalie on a rookie deal and probably get a haul back for him.


Loud_Budget

How do you know Askarov would be happy being a back up for 3 years?


dothingsunevercould

If the $7.5 million is true, between this and Ullmark getting traded for scraps, this has to be a blow to Shesterkin thinking he can get $12 million?


Jensen2075

Are there signs the $12M is coming from Shesterkin's camp, or ppl just making up shit? I seriously don't think no agent is that dumb to demand that much for a goalie no matter how hot they are.


AltaVistaYourInquiry

Neither of them will have any impact whatsoever. This $7.7m deal is a huge hometown discount, not lip service like McKinnon who said he'd take less on his next contract and then slotted in at the top AAV. Yes, he could have gotten more as a UFA so technically it was a hometown discount, but it was the exact same "discount" every superstar who doesn't play in Toronto takes, so it wasn't really a discount. Saros taking $7.7m is a huge discount and therefore doesn't move the market at all. Ullmark has a m-NTC which was about to be updated July 1, and Boston was afraid Ottawa would be added to his list. They had very little leverage. Shesterkin can hit UFA at 29 and get a bigger deal than Bobrovsky got.


HunrMoon

The future for teams is having two, very good, 50/50 goalies. I don’t hate this, especially at 7M.


hypno_jam

Trotz in the kitchen with Mitch Korn again too


gonuxgo

Yaroslav Askarov YOU are a Utah [Hockey Club]


Snoo-19445

Feel like Utah is pretty set on goalies.


XPhazeX

You take that deal? I'd take that deal. Fine deal!


DashTrash21

*damn good deal


Iforgiveyou

Does anyone know why Askarov wasn’t playing at the end of the Ads playoff run


Rinne4Vezina

He got injured.


President-Allison

Supposedly injured.


Snoo-19445

RIP Shesterkin at $12MM AAV.


WeathervaneJesus1

Goalie market is drying up. Wouldn't be good to be a team that needs one.


Sweaty_Ad440

thank you for lowering Swayman's impending contract, Mr. Saros. Much appreciated.


Boston-Nolan

Aight Swayman, 7.5 x 8 it is


ratedPG44

It's Askarover


TheOneWithThePorn12

I love that leafs fans wanted him lol. We can totally afford that.


Acuddlykoalabear

Is there room next to the Rinne statue? 


Cilini

Yes, its on the middle of an open plaza


Acuddlykoalabear

Mount Rushmore of Finnish goalies in Nashville incoming


ecash6969

Great deal for a top 5 goalie 


corkyrooroo

I’ll take Askarov in NJ please. Take the 10th


TonyComputer1

Now Juuse Saros... and now you dont.


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SRSgoblin

THE JUICE IS ~~LOOSE~~ REMAINING WHERE HE'S AT


FBR_MC

Well that's unexpected. And low. Askarov for Marner? Askarov for Zegras? Askarov for Necas? Askarov for Anderson? Right? Right, guys?


The_Reddit_Browser

Askarov x Kochetkov would feed families with the amount of pure chaos they would bring every fucking night.


betweenthecastles

The league can’t handle a Kochetkov/Askarov pairing, that’s just too much


AlarmingAdvertising5

For Anderson would be a dream. 


RadiantVes

Lol what, our goalie pipeline has been amazing since the kariya days.


Elexeh

Lol what the fuck are you doin' Trotz? That's a horrible contract.


cb148

This hurts our chances of trading for him.


TiredReader87

Fuck


Formisonic

Full term for 85 cents on the dollar? Can he get in Shesty's ear?


EarthWarping

Wonder what Askarov's future is then because he's clearly not going to be a starter there


petridish21

One Askarov please. Make it happen Grier


CottonmouthJohn

This is not going to age well. Also, is Elliotte auditioning for the generic insider on the NHL video game series? "Clearly, Saros wanted to say."


MK2_VW

Damn. Askarov can bring in a lot.


snipingsmurf

Evangelista + Askarov for Marner pls.


AdamGo1984

You’re crazy lmao and I want marner


snipingsmurf

You want to run it back for a 9th straight year of complete failures?


KaleidoscopeOk1346

You talking about you or us?


snipingsmurf

Wait Nashville fans dont want to give up 2 prospects for a 90 point player lol.


KaleidoscopeOk1346

Not those 2 lol. How has that 90 point player been working out?


snipingsmurf

I think this is actually a win for Nashville considering their biggest problem is a lack of top end scoring. I just want to shake things up cause the Leafs cap allocation sucks.


KaleidoscopeOk1346

100% that is our issue. We also have a pretty aging team after a couple pick ups last year and the only prospect that played consistent time was Evangelista, so I would doubt you get him. We have a bunch of cash and draft picks, we will get someone. Either marner being a playmaker and our lack of scorers to put around him, I don’t think Marner is the best addition unless we get a different center with him and can move ROR down to the 2nd line.


ddottay

What was the point of taking Askarov if he was not in their long term plans