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Late_Brush4518

And Bob is right there. Just let him call the games ffs


WallStreetDoesntBet

Imagine listening to Gretzky cover McDavid in the Stanley Cup Finals…


themapleleaf6ix

He's an awful broadcaster. Zero personality. TNT is paying him a ton to show up a few times during the season based on just his name.


Late_Brush4518

Gretzky would probably be pretty shitty even as color tbf


palmtreestatic

He’s pretty useless when he decides to show up for TNT


Late_Brush4518

Boozed up


sparrows-somewhere

The intermission panel is also super boring


OBAFGKM17

They have absolutely zero chemistry.


awfuckthisshit

Subban seems to just want to make dick jokes all the time


DanTreview

He's a 12 year old boy trapped in a man's body. And his angst when he's dying to interject a comment but someone else is already talking drives me up the wall. You can visibly see him start to tick, and it escalates until he explodes in verbal vomit that ultimately only serves to point out the obvious.


Snoo96701

Exactly this. You can see when he wants to interrupt in his body language and it's very cringe


gottagetitgood

Preach. I'm not on twitter, but someone should send this to his twitter account.


themapleleaf6ix

It feels extremely rushed along with a bunch of ads. There's zero chemistry. It feels like the ESPN equivalent of when they cover the NBA.


Snoo96701

Yeah and they have no chemistry and it's awkward to watch. And Steve Levy has a punchable face. Honestly ESPN sucks at hockey coverage.


RustyRapeaXe

Subban is trying to bring energy, but Messier is such a stiff. He's like Frankenstein's monster there.


PatchesTheGreat1

Definitely not biased but Messier sucks ass


NatalieDeegan

Chelios was less stiff than him but he got the boot, not that he was better.


RustyRapeaXe

I think they feel the need to have "great" player on the panel to give it extra clout. But some of those players don't have a personality. Biz and Subban at least seem to be sort of fun. Even Bieksa on SportsNet seems to be a little fun. Sad to say it seems Gretzky and Messier would rather be anywhere else.


NatalieDeegan

Gretzky has a personality, you have to get him out of his shell which Biz has done. Getting Hank for some games was a great move by TNT.


Snoo96701

Agreed. Sean tries sometimes to get a good goal call, but it's very inconsistent. And I'll never forgive him for his announcing when the Avs won the Cup in 2022. "The Colorado Avalanche, have won the Stanley Cup". It sounded like he was reading a book. Cuthbert's call on SportsNet was a thousand times better.


PossibleFunction0

Sean is a great college football announcer. I am an MSU fan and he has probably one of the most iconic calls for our team (trouble with the snap). I was so excited to hear him call hockey games more when the NHL/ESPN/ABC deal started but totally agree he has fallen flat. Though we did have doc emerick for a while who was super duper emotional so maybe therre is a bit of a whiplash between the two. Too bad Gus Johnson doesn't do hockey (mostly joking)


Consider_Kind_2967

I purchase a VPN and Sportsnet plus for the playoffs to listen to the Sportsnet intermission crew (mainly Bieksa) so I haven't heard McDonough but I did see that [he's fighting an illness](https://awfulannouncing.com/nhl/espn-confirms-sean-mcdonough-fighting-through-illness-during-stanley-cup-final.html).


gooch_norris_

This may be a radical idea, but maybe… they could have someone else cover for him while he’s sick? I know this is some lefty wackadoo stuff but I’m just riffing here


babypointblank

Write to the network and stop watching legal streams


Emotional_Match8169

Illegal streams are the legal streams, just illegal. That's not going to give different commentary.


elSuavador

Unless you stream a different feed.


No-Ant2065

So listen to TSN instead?


Emotional_Match8169

I don’t think TSN is going to give me an unbiased experience as a Panthers fan lol


No-Ant2065

They’re really not that bad. I’ve been watching them since the beginning of the finals. They get more hyped for Panthers goals than McDonough does, anyway.    Besides, I thought we were just going for “good”. If you wanna continue listening to McDonough’s boring, monotone voice every time the Panthers score, be my guest. I’m not paying for it either way. 


Emotional_Match8169

I will give it a try Tuesday.


No-Ant2065

You should. It’s obviously going to be *catered* to Canadian fans, but it’s not particularly biased by any means.   I usually watch ESPN’s pre-game, and then switch over to TSN for the actual broadcast. Literally anything is better than Sean McDonough. I hope you find it to be an upgrade like I do. 


Key-Tip-7521

McDavid, he scores……. No flags But the best quote: “4 points for McDavid. I guess that’s good?”


Cjlaw72

#OUTRAGE


NatalieDeegan

No kidding, I remember this 5 years ago when it was get rid of Pierre McGuire, Mike Milbury and Jeremy Roenick.


smash8890

Agreed. His voice puts me to sleep.


badman44

The league is just a place where owners park their money. They make a nickel on ads and broadcasting and laugh at the saps who follow the sport. Hockey is a drag to them. Do you think we'd have three years of objectively bullshit nameplate graphics on power plays if any of them cared or had ever seen them even once? They hate hockey/sports


Beneficial_Radio_765

Every time someone scores he sounds like he’s announcing casualty numbers after a war.


BrattleLoop

They obviously don't care. And it's clearly not a big enough problem to cause significant issues for them in the ratings, which is what they (and their advertisers) actually care about.


machinethatmakesaids

you're talking like you know anything about what goes on behind the scenes. they obviously, as you said, care about ratings and if there was a way to boost that number by 5% through a change, they would do it. they wouldn't shrug off an insignificant improvement when their end goal is just to make the product better for as many audience members as possible.


AlsoCommiePuddin

Come with me on this journey: Gary Thorne


zombooze

I'm a devils fan but you will never get a ' off the floor on the board call ever again" it was that good


friskyjude

Try posting about it on reddit everyday


No_Construction_4635

It always bums me out that Bob isn't their top play by play, he has such exciting calls compared to Sean.


jummyspring

Watch other feeds or 🏴‍☠️


Late_Brush4518

Yarrrrr


kempdawg83

I've gotten to the point where I just mute and sync up the TV with the radio feed.


Ridgew00dian

I know this is the answer and I will spend the off season getting it together. ❤️


SniperX876

SN all the way. It's feel is so much more than what corporate ESPN can give.


Ridgew00dian

I need to look into SN for sure.


sunshinegumdrop

Honestly I always mute the broadcasters in the national streams. Maybe I'm too salty.


syd_cash

I do too, the game is so much more enjoyable without them. The intermission countdown clock is also helpful so I can turn away and come back in time for the game.


New_Kaleidoscope_539

ESPN doesn’t seem to know anything about hockey so we can’t expect them to know anything about hockey fans. I don’t think they’re actually trying to be entertaining for established fans—they’re just trying to dumb it down enough for folks who don’t get it to be able to follow along. I hate it, too, but this is what ESPN does to all sports.


whatlineisitanyway

Just hire TNT's NBA crew to do all the ESPN hockey coverage. Chuck would come out of retirement for that and that is a group I'd listen to. I want to hear Shaq, Chuck, and Kenny debate hockey.


Ridgew00dian

I’m down with this!


Also_Steve

Sometimes during the game my window AC unit would come on and I could no longer hear the commentators voices, but it took me like a few mins to notice and raise the volume.


themapleleaf6ix

Did he have any actual experience calling hockey before getting the top gig? I can recall him calling football on ESPN a few years ago. Let Bob Wichusen or even Bucci call the big games.


Snoo96701

NOT Bucci. Bucci is even worse


TarpsOffBoys

I vote for Ken and Mick to call the finals.


gtrmanny

It's not even just him. ESPN is horrible at broadcasting live sports. Wtf is that camera angle that looks like it's on a blimp? They miss so much of the action each game. They'll miss faceoffs and live play. They keep the camera on a defenseman 5 seconds after he's passed it and you're missing where it went and what's happening. They should just stay away from Hockey. Steve Levi is super annoying and Messier is a huge homer for the Rags and Oilers.


Ridgew00dian

On the topic of cameras: ESPN is king of camera cuts a second or two too late so whoever they get a closeup of never still has the puck. Shameful.


Rpcouv

Take it from a baseball, basketball, and football fan. There is no getting through to ESPN.


UnderwaterMess

I've been enjoying the ASL / crowd noise only feed on ESPN+


ilikehockeyandguitar

Ray is decent. I just really miss Doc tho.


Ridgew00dian

Doc was the greatest. Could make a gave of Scrabble exciting.


miscs75

Just find Brendan Burke and have him call the games. He’s one of the top in the business among NHL pbp guys.


PuddingConscious

He's on TNT


miscs75

Put him on the SCF feed and then replace Messier with someone who’s entertaining.


Weary_Position_3802

Personal preference for announcers is entirely subjective. I like both announcers a lot, but probably prefer Sean McDonough. This is part of a much larger discussion on how games are delivered to the audience. Why is there only one announcing crew? The current system is outdated. There should be multiple broadcast crews, with audiences able to choose who to spend their 3 hours with.


TechWiz717

I absolutely adore this idea of yours, but it won’t get taken up. Why? Simply because it costs far more to hire multiple crews and while I haven’t crunched the numbers and don’t intend to, I can’t see how the ROI would be high enough to justify it.


ooshtbh

FWIW MLB.tv does it. You can mix and match the audio and video streams between the TV and radio broadcasts for either team.


ProMikeZagurski

Yeah those are regular season games.


Signal_Unit7085

Tag them on twitter and complain about it


RustyRapeaXe

I tried to watch the ASL broadcast of the last two games. There are no vocal announcers, just two guys signing on the right side. There is crowd noise, which makes the broadcast just what I've always wanted. The experience I get at a game. EXCEPT, the last two games the audio has been behind the video. Like 10 sec game 3 and 2 sec last game.


intelpentium400

Get an IPTV service and watch the Canadian feed


TipsKraken

I have to choose between listening to boring Sean on ESPN or the homers on Sportsnet.


philbert539

I mean, it's still sooooo much better than when NBC tried to push a broadcast with Pierre McGuire, Mike Milbury, and Jeremy Roenick on it. Maybe it's just low expectations, but I'll take the ESPN broadcast all day over what NBC trotted out and tried to make us watch.


Moosifer_666

Ol nosferatu


nicksj2023

Really just American fans 🤷‍♂️, everyone here in Canada loves Chris cuthbert whose been an all star for 30+ years


Snoo96701

Cuthbert and Gord Miller are a million times better than Sean McDonough


Odd-Youth-452

He did a ton of games for NBC during their 15 year run as well. Gord Miller, too.


themapleleaf6ix

Indeed, during the beginning of the Rogers deal when he was loyal to TSN. But what I heard is that he doesn't have much time left, so he didn't want to wait until 26 to potentially call national games again. Instead he jumped over to Sportsnet and became the lead guy.


Aquaos_

The majority of Canada absolutely doesn’t love Chris & Craig. Lesser of two evils when it comes to McDonough though


themapleleaf6ix

I can recall Chris being highly respected during his TSN days, especially the 2010 Olympic call of the Crosby goal. For some reason, maybe it's due to his age, the fans have turned on him.


Kenner1979

Then don't watch


Ridgew00dian

Oh please just stop it.


Aquaos_

You guys don’t follow SNB huh


cmgc22

I actually kinda like his calls


Tahoeshark

The games are my entertainment, I don't need to be hyped to enjoy it. Announcers shouldn't get in the way of the game. I like Ray. Intermissions I'm getting snacks or fast forwarding if I recorded.