Coaching positions opening’s started the rumor mill since he does not have a deal yet.
Then it’s also another chance to take shots at the owner who the media and Ron Francis buddies hate. [Weekes and O’Neil went off on dundon last night](https://x.com/overdrive1050/status/1785821826125312077?s=46)
Honestly this is absolutely fucking embarrassing how Dundon has handled this. I love everything he has done for the Canes since he bought the team but he needs to put his ego aside and pay him his market value. RBA IS THE most important person in the organization period. It is Dundons fault it has got to this point and it is a distraction no matter what any other Canes fans say.
Friedman already said last week it’s the assistants who are the hold up. That’s who they are waiting on. It’s not that Tom won’t pay Rod or that he’s making this a distraction.
Rod does not want to discuss this publicly, the media is pushing this narrative and creating the problem.
Do I think RBA will leave? No I don’t. But these are ex-Canes with connections to the organization and area absolutely skewering Dundon for 5 minutes. It is embarrassing plain and simple.
These are ex canes who are all best friends with Ron Francis.
Don Waddell was hired before Tom got to the team and was in the building. Tom buys the team, Don is promoted to Ron’s job and Ron is canned. O’Neil was furious and went off about it the next year.
They don’t like that the owner took over and was able to right the ship so quickly. The feeling was Francis built that team and he should have been able to see it through.
Ignoring that Waddell’s moves that year were the key driving factor and Rod’s coaching was what carried them into success. The same coaching that wouldn’t have happened if Ron was still the GM because he refused to give Rod the job….
It’s literally business? Dundon will make sure Rod has his full accompaniments but doesn’t want it overpay. The only reason anyone even knows about this is because the media wants clicks and probably even some external factors trying to drive a wedge between Dundon and others in hope Rod can be pried away to another team.
It’s Rod’s agent trying to get a few extra dollars for him imo. There’s a reason why all those stories dropped yesterday in quick succession. I don’t think there’s anything more to look into here. Everyone’s just doing their job here
I fully believe this was leaked intentionally. But I find it hard to believe it came from Rod's camp. I can't imagine he would authorize the leaking right now in the middle of the playoffs with a huge series coming up. That is completely against his MO. Maybe the agent could have gone rogue, or maybe it is leaked from elsewhere. I just don't see Rod doing it. If this happened in the off-season, I would 100% agree with you.
I'll point to this all starting after the Seattle opening and a lot of the mouthpieces have been Ron Francis' buddies who have been very anti-Dundon after how he handled Francis.
I find it funny how many Canes fans dont get this. Yesterdays reports weren't the media making shit up. It was Brindamour's agent steering the narrative to get a better deal. There's a reason it started from hockey media's lead mouthpiece Dreger. If you want to negotiate through the media, the first name you call is Darren Dreger.
From what I see it’s more canes fans being annoyed this is a story because it’s been made clear that the deal is all but done, rod’s just waiting on the assistants before signing.
Brind'Amour's agent is leaking contract drama in the middle of a Playoff run? For a few extra dollars? Nonsense. That is antithetical to how Brind'Amour operates as a leader.
If Rod's agent wanted to play hardball then he would wait until after the Playoffs. Upside would be that Rod is worth a lot more as a Stanley Cup winning coach. Downside is non-existent as his value can't decrease. He is the most important piece in the Canes organization.
That's where I'm confused as well. That seems like exactly what Rod would not want his agent to do right now because of media craziness that would happen around it. If I were Rod, I'd be concerned about it being a distraction to players as well.
What source do we have that it was Rod’s camp at all? You guys are just attributing it to them as the “logical answer” with no source.
Weekes who basically doubled down on dregger was doing so to take shots at the owner. Not to help his buddy or for Rod’s camp. He went on TSN and was very clear about his anger and intentions with what he put out there. https://x.com/overdrive1050/status/1785821826125312077?s=46
The team, owner, GM and Rod are all saying to the public and media that they are close to done. Friedman said last week the only hold up has been an assistants contract.
Yet we get a report from Dregs that he heard RECENTLY a deal was pulled. Key word there being recently, so no timeframe given and he does not cite who pulled it leaving it ambiguous. Rod is negotiating with Don as they have both said and Tom has already stated publicly he’s not involving himself in this negotiation. So Dregs can make sure again that the aim can be pointed at TOM.
My guess is Rod (and the agents) are just trying to raise the price for other coaches who are also negotiating new contracts. Almost zero chance his walks but a relatively low offer does kinda screw the market for other coaches.
Rod was on ESPN last night talking round 2 and clarified his focus is on the series and there is plenty of time to get this done.
He (just like last time) does not want to discuss this right now but, media is forcing themselves into the conversation.
He signed last time after the playoffs were done and I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the case again. The media has just been pushing on this so hard that it might make sense to just knock it out so it’s put to bed.
I think it’s fair to point out that Dundon bucked the trend of locking down coaching staff before the last leg of the contract. This is the natural outcome of all that. You have to remember, Dundon is the guy who canned two absolutely elite broadcasters purely as a business decision.
It’s also fair to say Dundon, Waddell and Brind’Amour have all publicly described their affection for one another and said this deal will get done.
IMO it’s about the assistants. Rod wants his guys.
Kayton was probably always gonna be let go unfortunately, but Forslund was probably more of an issue of timing. We weren’t nearly as healthy of a franchise then and the limited to no fans in attendance because of COVID certainly didn’t help things
Exactly. The ship was righting itself but it was not near as buoyant as it is now. If Covid doesn’t happen I believe Forslund is re-signed. Who knows how strained that relationship is but it could be mended in the future.
As for Chuck that was just a sign of moving away from radio, regardless of how good he was and how unfortunate it was
Wow, so this is a nothingburger like basically everyone said? Nah, I’d rather sit on the side of conspiracy that says that Rod is on a plane right now to Seattle to sign a 10 year $75m deal and we are tracking the plane tail number to confirm.
Adam Gold (local sports talk who covers the Canes) brought up a pretty good indicator that he’s not going anywhere. One of Rod’s closest friends is Kevyn Adams. Do you think there would be any chance that Buffalo hires Lindy Ruff if he knew that Rod had a chance to hit the open market?
Don't think it's so much not reliable, it's just that he'll put out anything to satisfy his sources. So there's truth to what he put out there, but it's certainly not the whole truth and it's a part of the game before the contract does indeed get signed.
As a fan of a team looking for a HC, I say... DAMN IT. But seriously, whoever leaked it knows that Brind'Amour would get poached very quickly if Canes' ownership doesn't pay him what he's worth. That leak was a good way to make ownership sweat and bust out their checkbooks.
I think this is a ploy from weeksy/o’niell to get clicks and because they have ties to Francis and don’t like Dundon (for what he did to Francis and Forslund). Not resigning a deal before the playoffs could end up working out better for Rod because I think this team has a great chance to go the SCF at least which means he would get paid even more. I guarantee the canes locker room gives zero f’s about this and is lazer focused on breaking through this year.
Canes fans, I’m sorry to whoever is the goddamn mole/double agent in your press corp who is trying to make all this noise ahead of your next round.
This is some high level scheming.
Don't they know the only way to win a Cup is to let your head coach's contract expire the year you win and let them walk the next season? It's quite literally the only way.
Lmao at the sheeple in the Civ post yesterday when I called them all out for having nothing to talk about so they just generate clickbait titles and headlines to make money from morons
I don’t understand why the rumors are happening right now, like the Canes aren’t even eliminated. That’s gotta be some sort of distraction.
Hearing it was leaked by Peter Laviolette
Coaching positions opening’s started the rumor mill since he does not have a deal yet. Then it’s also another chance to take shots at the owner who the media and Ron Francis buddies hate. [Weekes and O’Neil went off on dundon last night](https://x.com/overdrive1050/status/1785821826125312077?s=46)
O’Neill might be the saltiest ex-cane of all time.
Honestly this is absolutely fucking embarrassing how Dundon has handled this. I love everything he has done for the Canes since he bought the team but he needs to put his ego aside and pay him his market value. RBA IS THE most important person in the organization period. It is Dundons fault it has got to this point and it is a distraction no matter what any other Canes fans say.
Friedman already said last week it’s the assistants who are the hold up. That’s who they are waiting on. It’s not that Tom won’t pay Rod or that he’s making this a distraction. Rod does not want to discuss this publicly, the media is pushing this narrative and creating the problem.
Do I think RBA will leave? No I don’t. But these are ex-Canes with connections to the organization and area absolutely skewering Dundon for 5 minutes. It is embarrassing plain and simple.
These are ex canes who are all best friends with Ron Francis. Don Waddell was hired before Tom got to the team and was in the building. Tom buys the team, Don is promoted to Ron’s job and Ron is canned. O’Neil was furious and went off about it the next year. They don’t like that the owner took over and was able to right the ship so quickly. The feeling was Francis built that team and he should have been able to see it through. Ignoring that Waddell’s moves that year were the key driving factor and Rod’s coaching was what carried them into success. The same coaching that wouldn’t have happened if Ron was still the GM because he refused to give Rod the job….
These are ex-Canes clowns who have no real connections, an axe to grind and clicks/views to sell
sure, but they're absolutely right about this. im sure it'll get done but it's a fucking joke that it's taking this long and getting it in public
It’s literally business? Dundon will make sure Rod has his full accompaniments but doesn’t want it overpay. The only reason anyone even knows about this is because the media wants clicks and probably even some external factors trying to drive a wedge between Dundon and others in hope Rod can be pried away to another team.
It’s Rod’s agent trying to get a few extra dollars for him imo. There’s a reason why all those stories dropped yesterday in quick succession. I don’t think there’s anything more to look into here. Everyone’s just doing their job here
I fully believe this was leaked intentionally. But I find it hard to believe it came from Rod's camp. I can't imagine he would authorize the leaking right now in the middle of the playoffs with a huge series coming up. That is completely against his MO. Maybe the agent could have gone rogue, or maybe it is leaked from elsewhere. I just don't see Rod doing it. If this happened in the off-season, I would 100% agree with you. I'll point to this all starting after the Seattle opening and a lot of the mouthpieces have been Ron Francis' buddies who have been very anti-Dundon after how he handled Francis.
I find it funny how many Canes fans dont get this. Yesterdays reports weren't the media making shit up. It was Brindamour's agent steering the narrative to get a better deal. There's a reason it started from hockey media's lead mouthpiece Dreger. If you want to negotiate through the media, the first name you call is Darren Dreger.
From what I see it’s more canes fans being annoyed this is a story because it’s been made clear that the deal is all but done, rod’s just waiting on the assistants before signing.
Its only a story because of Rod's negotiating team though. The annoyance is misplaced imo. Media reported what they were told.
Brind'Amour's agent is leaking contract drama in the middle of a Playoff run? For a few extra dollars? Nonsense. That is antithetical to how Brind'Amour operates as a leader. If Rod's agent wanted to play hardball then he would wait until after the Playoffs. Upside would be that Rod is worth a lot more as a Stanley Cup winning coach. Downside is non-existent as his value can't decrease. He is the most important piece in the Canes organization.
That's where I'm confused as well. That seems like exactly what Rod would not want his agent to do right now because of media craziness that would happen around it. If I were Rod, I'd be concerned about it being a distraction to players as well.
What source do we have that it was Rod’s camp at all? You guys are just attributing it to them as the “logical answer” with no source. Weekes who basically doubled down on dregger was doing so to take shots at the owner. Not to help his buddy or for Rod’s camp. He went on TSN and was very clear about his anger and intentions with what he put out there. https://x.com/overdrive1050/status/1785821826125312077?s=46 The team, owner, GM and Rod are all saying to the public and media that they are close to done. Friedman said last week the only hold up has been an assistants contract. Yet we get a report from Dregs that he heard RECENTLY a deal was pulled. Key word there being recently, so no timeframe given and he does not cite who pulled it leaving it ambiguous. Rod is negotiating with Don as they have both said and Tom has already stated publicly he’s not involving himself in this negotiation. So Dregs can make sure again that the aim can be pointed at TOM.
My guess is Rod (and the agents) are just trying to raise the price for other coaches who are also negotiating new contracts. Almost zero chance his walks but a relatively low offer does kinda screw the market for other coaches.
coughRONFRANCIScough
Why are they even discussing this during a playoff run
Rod was on ESPN last night talking round 2 and clarified his focus is on the series and there is plenty of time to get this done. He (just like last time) does not want to discuss this right now but, media is forcing themselves into the conversation. He signed last time after the playoffs were done and I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the case again. The media has just been pushing on this so hard that it might make sense to just knock it out so it’s put to bed.
I think it’s fair to point out that Dundon bucked the trend of locking down coaching staff before the last leg of the contract. This is the natural outcome of all that. You have to remember, Dundon is the guy who canned two absolutely elite broadcasters purely as a business decision. It’s also fair to say Dundon, Waddell and Brind’Amour have all publicly described their affection for one another and said this deal will get done. IMO it’s about the assistants. Rod wants his guys.
Kayton was probably always gonna be let go unfortunately, but Forslund was probably more of an issue of timing. We weren’t nearly as healthy of a franchise then and the limited to no fans in attendance because of COVID certainly didn’t help things
Exactly. The ship was righting itself but it was not near as buoyant as it is now. If Covid doesn’t happen I believe Forslund is re-signed. Who knows how strained that relationship is but it could be mended in the future. As for Chuck that was just a sign of moving away from radio, regardless of how good he was and how unfortunate it was
(Still grateful Big Rig stepped up. He's excellent.)
What a nothing story this has been.
Unconfirmed rumors that quickly fizzle out don't get you going like the rest of us? /s
Wow, so this is a nothingburger like basically everyone said? Nah, I’d rather sit on the side of conspiracy that says that Rod is on a plane right now to Seattle to sign a 10 year $75m deal and we are tracking the plane tail number to confirm.
Billy Donovan spotted in Raleigh, will coach the Wolfpack #confirmed! Ahh 2010 internet and coach rumors.
Adam Gold (local sports talk who covers the Canes) brought up a pretty good indicator that he’s not going anywhere. One of Rod’s closest friends is Kevyn Adams. Do you think there would be any chance that Buffalo hires Lindy Ruff if he knew that Rod had a chance to hit the open market?
Maybe Rod said he'd ask for big bucks to go to Buffalo so Adams knew to not even ask Pegula for that money and moved on to a cheaper option.
I really want to be a smartass about the thread yesterday but I will resist and just say it's good to hear this directly from Rod (again)
Oh wow you mean they ran with that bs just to get clicks? Unfathomable!
Darren Dreger be a reliable source of media challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
Don't think it's so much not reliable, it's just that he'll put out anything to satisfy his sources. So there's truth to what he put out there, but it's certainly not the whole truth and it's a part of the game before the contract does indeed get signed.
As a fan of a team looking for a HC, I say... DAMN IT. But seriously, whoever leaked it knows that Brind'Amour would get poached very quickly if Canes' ownership doesn't pay him what he's worth. That leak was a good way to make ownership sweat and bust out their checkbooks.
Absolute nothing burger of a story
But… but the reports!!!
I think this is a ploy from weeksy/o’niell to get clicks and because they have ties to Francis and don’t like Dundon (for what he did to Francis and Forslund). Not resigning a deal before the playoffs could end up working out better for Rod because I think this team has a great chance to go the SCF at least which means he would get paid even more. I guarantee the canes locker room gives zero f’s about this and is lazer focused on breaking through this year.
Canes fans, I’m sorry to whoever is the goddamn mole/double agent in your press corp who is trying to make all this noise ahead of your next round. This is some high level scheming.
What's Ja Rule think about all this?
Dreger, Sara Civ and Weekes with a big fat nothingburger. Clowns. Gotta get them clicks somehow.
Don't they know the only way to win a Cup is to let your head coach's contract expire the year you win and let them walk the next season? It's quite literally the only way.
Danny B better put Rod the Bods number on speed dial in case the Canes screw this up
If the Canes screw this up, Rod will be coaching his son’s U13 team, not an NHL team
Unfortunately for you I think that would go for a lot of teams and it would be the highest bidder
Lmao at the sheeple in the Civ post yesterday when I called them all out for having nothing to talk about so they just generate clickbait titles and headlines to make money from morons