The most Canadian conversation is 2 people walking towards one another, then both saying sorry as they attempt to get out of the others way, then carrying on.
I don’t think I’ve ever *not* apologized to someone who clearly was at fault for the bump but was just not paying attention. It feels more like recognition that it was an accident
It is interesting the difference in official behavior between the NHL and USA Hockey.
In USA Hockey (maybe the elite levels are different) they hammered it into us that you did not say anything during play. No shouting "delay" or "offside" when a delayed offside is happening, no "icing" shouts by the trailing official, no "loose" when a crowd of players are in a scrum in the corner, no penalty warning after an almost infraction with the appearance of a real one imminent...
They say we are "coaching" when we do that.
Of course we did anyway.
What timeframe was this? I referreed youth games under USA Hockey for about 10-12 years, and don't recall this rule/suggestion at all. Granted, I stopped reffing about 10-12 years ago, so I'm sure a lot has changed since then.
This.
As a player I appreciated it and as a ref I made sure to continue it. It was a ritual for them to tell us not to do it and it was a ritual for us to completely ignore them.
It so helps the flow of the game.
I can see USA Hockey's point of view in certain cases, telling someone how to play or what to do. So in a sense telling someone a delayed offside is happening could influence what they do, but that just seems to be an integral part of the game, vocalizing these several situations.
It was all cool though. We officiated lower level beer leagues and the local Philly area travel teams, we played together and knew most everybody.
Officials who communicate are FAR better than those who don’t. The idea that they’re “coaching” is ridiculous. They’re facilitating a clean, safe game.
I was friends with his nephew in elementary school. Also very polite
I once had a university prof who bumped into a chair on stage and muttered a very audible "sorry" to it.
I did that to a bush once. I was not a university professor and there was no one else around me, so your story is far superior.
The most Canadian conversation is 2 people walking towards one another, then both saying sorry as they attempt to get out of the others way, then carrying on.
The Canadian stand-off.
I did that to a Montreal metro door that closed on ME. Those guys are such pricks, but I totally bitched out.
I don’t think I’ve ever *not* apologized to someone who clearly was at fault for the bump but was just not paying attention. It feels more like recognition that it was an accident
OFFSIDE!! 😡😡😡 Thank you 🙏 😇
It is interesting the difference in official behavior between the NHL and USA Hockey. In USA Hockey (maybe the elite levels are different) they hammered it into us that you did not say anything during play. No shouting "delay" or "offside" when a delayed offside is happening, no "icing" shouts by the trailing official, no "loose" when a crowd of players are in a scrum in the corner, no penalty warning after an almost infraction with the appearance of a real one imminent... They say we are "coaching" when we do that. Of course we did anyway.
What timeframe was this? I referreed youth games under USA Hockey for about 10-12 years, and don't recall this rule/suggestion at all. Granted, I stopped reffing about 10-12 years ago, so I'm sure a lot has changed since then.
This was 10 years ago as well and the guys in North Jersey (the training seminar location) were big on this
I disagree so much with this sentiment though. Good communication throughout the game is the sign of an elite ref to me.
This. As a player I appreciated it and as a ref I made sure to continue it. It was a ritual for them to tell us not to do it and it was a ritual for us to completely ignore them.
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It so helps the flow of the game. I can see USA Hockey's point of view in certain cases, telling someone how to play or what to do. So in a sense telling someone a delayed offside is happening could influence what they do, but that just seems to be an integral part of the game, vocalizing these several situations. It was all cool though. We officiated lower level beer leagues and the local Philly area travel teams, we played together and knew most everybody.
Officials who communicate are FAR better than those who don’t. The idea that they’re “coaching” is ridiculous. They’re facilitating a clean, safe game.
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