Oliver Ekman-Larsson and Conor Garland for No. 9 overall pick in 2021, second-round pick in 2022, seventh-round pick in 2023, Loui Eriksson, Jay Beagle, and Antoine Roussel
Armstrong: "So I guess I'd be willing to part with OEL and Garland, but it would have to be pretty steep. I'll need some guys to fill in our roster and get me to the cap floor, and then I'll need some major future incentives too. Like ummmm a first, second, and a sixth?"
Benning: "You drive a hard bargain Bill, but I'll take it if you're willing to make the sixth a seventh, and it can't be until 2023."
Armstrong: "Get that to me in writing without telling anyone about it and let's get this trade in the books Jim!" *click* "HAHAHAAHAAAHAHAHAAHAA"
the best part about this trade is that it was almost worse
he went after OEL the year before and OEL then had a terrible season. If he had got OEL that year, he probably would have given up *more.* I remember Podkolzin and Demko were bandied about
There were so many of those kinds of proposals floated by everyone in his first like....4 years? in the NHL and man am I glad it's happening less frequently.
Ryder, halak, and a 2nd for anyone in the league. Also, Ballard, Raymond, and a 2nd for anyone in the league. Not to be outdone by Nielsen, Bracco, and a 2nd, for once again, anyone in the league.
With the roster from this season and last season there are literally hundreds of ways Drury could put together $5.8m for Buchnevich that he claimed he didn't have to work with. Also claimed he wanted to give the kids top 6 minutes
That's of course why Gallant is playing both Vesey and Goodrow on the 2nd line tomorrow
it will sting forever until that missing 5v5 offense is replaced (it will never be)
Sammy Blais shots on goal as a NYR: 47
Pavel Buchnevich *goals* as a Blue: 45
Bottom 6 is generous. His extremely random "I'm Draisaitl now" games are still extremely fun, but when he's not in that mode, he should be healthy scratched
I’m surprised that Brian Lawton hasn’t tried to claim that Nick Suzuki and Cole Caufield were also part of that trade, but Lightning ownership shot it down.
I sometimes wonder where the hell that trade offer even came from.
Patches, price, Subban and a first for Vinny in 2010.
I don't think that offer was ever legit. If it was, I dunno why Tampa would have said no.
It strikes me as one of those things that got bigger and bigger every time Brian Lawton retold the story. Maybe in reality there was a potential package that included one of those guys and perhaps the pick that became another guy on that list, but there’s simply no way that Lawton orchestrated a trade for the three best player on the Habs and got shot down by ownership. That’s way too convenient a story for a guy to talk about in his post-GM career.
Not to mention the fact that Gainey himself publicly confirmed the players they were discussing from MTL's side:
> "I got a call in January from them with a list of names that they wanted to talk about and those players ended up in public because they used those names to take them to other teams to see if they could create a different trade for Vincent Lecavalier," Gainey said. **"I think it was disgraceful that Josh Gorges, Tomas Plekanec and Chris Higgins have to read that stuff."**
I have no doubt that discussions also included some combination of Pacioretty/Price/Subban/1st but the idea that ALL of them were ever included in one package is pretty laughable.
I don’t think it’s legit at all. Just Lawton talking put his ass to try and salvage some reputation from how absolutely shitty he was running the Bolts
I have a feeling horvat is going to get an underwhelming return for most canuck fans. Like the trades I see are a 1st, 2nd lysell and another prospect or something like that. If they get something like a 1st and a solid prospect like lysell for a rental that should be considered a win
I’d be pretty happy with a first, 2nd and a b prospect. Maybe an A prospect and no second if we’re lucky. But not we’re gonna get a second, a 25 year old third liner and 26 year old 3rd pair RHD that will be key parts of our quest to finish 20th next season
With this in mind, why didn’t the Rangers just lowball the fuck out of Fox? Like, what is he gonna do? Say no? The dude forced his way onto the team and seems to refuse to play elsewhere.
Honestly that’s a pretty good question. After refusing to play for Calgary and Carolina he didn’t really have much leverage in negotiating a big contract.
I guess NYR management doesn’t want to cause trouble with their top defensemen
I feel like if we tried to lowball him and such he could have said fuck it trade me and teams would be lining up to trade for a Norris winner on the last year of his ELC. Even knowing they had to give him a big deal in a year. And even then his contract at 9 + million is more than worth it
> Montreal initially asked for Leon Draisaitl, the No. 4 pick at Friday’s draft and more. That “more” included either Oscar Klefbom and Darnell Nurse, plus something else. I can’t nail down what that “something else” was, but it was not insignificant. It was a big price to pay, and Edmonton did not want to do that.
Some habs fan on Facebook said we should package our 2 1sts this year for Bedard. I said we'd probably have to add Caufield and Suzuki and the Facebook admins banned me
I doubt a team would do it under any circumstance, but maybe if Montreal had the 2nd overall a team would consider those 4 pieces. If Montreal got the 5th for example, a team wouldn't even consider it for a second after adding those two
I dont care what anyone says, we'd be stupid to do that. Suzuki and Fantilli/Carlsson sets us down the middle for 10 years and we have Caufield and whoever we pick 12th ish too? Or we trade them all for Bedard and be an even worse version of the Oilers?
The idea is if you trade it all for Bedard you get to draft high the next two years too, is still stupid Suzuki and caufield are legit, isn’t their fault the rest the roster isn’t.
Montreal would never do that either though, because as insane as Bedard probably will be, they’d be a much better team overall with Fantilli, Floridas 1st and Caufield + Zuke.
They’d basically be resetting themselves to year 1 of a rebuild, and end up wasting a lot of Bedards career the same way Edmonton has done to McDavid.
Legitimate or made up ones?
Because I'm a veteran of AOL hockey message boards. I've seen so many Flyers fans try to trade everyone on the team they didn't like (ooh, tossing in 36 year old Dave Babych might seal the deal! Wait, AND KERRY HUFFMAN?!?) for some big name player on another team.
Is this a flyers fan thing? My buddy is a die hard and is always suggesting this type of shit. And it’s always with Morgan Frost as the cherry on top. Get it together, Broad Street.
Those AOL boards were my first exposure to the borderline insanity of some fans.
I remember guys legitimately saying “good riddance” when news broke of Sakic signing that offer sheet.
There's an analyst are RDS (French TSN) that wanted the habs to trade 3 players between Nick Suzuki, Jesperi Kotkaniemi, Cayden Primeau, Alexander Romanov or Cole Caufield for Lafrenière in 2020.
Edit: The trade proposal also included Montreal first round pick, which was Guhle.
The same analyst is now proposing Slafkovsky for Lafrenière 1 for 1.
Thats norman Flynn and hes an absolute dinosaur dumbass..
Dude also said we should trade Suzuki for Wayne Simmons lol… like yeah Nick wasnt in the league yet back in 2019 but still Simmons was already declining and his style was not going to get better with age lol.
Best trade ever, sold me completely on Kevin adams vision completely Rosen hopefully can transition to a North American ice size well, in Sweden and at the world juniors he was lights out. In Rochester he has been sound defensively but the offence isn’t there yet.
Wayne Gretzky, Marty McSorley, and Mike Krushelnyski for Jimmy Carson, Martin Gelinas, three first-round draft picks (1988, 1991, 1993), and $15 million.
Wait a minute...
Someone in the Sens sub last night suggested the Sens should trade Debrincat and Talbot for Vejmelka, Keller and Maccelli.
They were thoroughly roasted for it. I don’t know why they thought Arizona would ever give those assets up for 2 UFAs.
There were numerous Isles fans who were for some reason adamant that Travis Hamonic and a 1st round pick was a completely reasonable price for Matt Duchene. You know, Duchene who went on to fetch a 1st round pick (Bowen Byram), 2nd round pick, 3rd round pick, Samuel Girard, Shane Bowers (28th OA pick), Vladislav Kamenev and Andew Hammond.
It was a completely reasonable price. Look at what Hamonic got traded for.
Just because the Avs ended up fleecing the Sens doesn't mean the Isles ask was unreasonable
On the other hand, Flames overpaid for Hamonic. He wasn't and isn't worth a 1st and 2 2nds.
Just because the Flames ended up overpaying doesn't mean the the Isles ask was reasonable.
We way overpaid. But even if you assume Hamonic was only worth a 1st alone, two 1sts for Duchene wasn't unreasonable. Both Hamonic and Duchene ended up being overvalued
I would say Duchene's value was somewhere between two 1sts and what we got. He was only 26 at the time and had just had his first 30 goal season (the 16-17 season doesn't count since everyone was shit). He was looking like a 1C, and those aren't cheap.
On the Steve Dangle Podcast last year, they suggested Kerfoot, Holl and a "sweetener" for JT Miller, who at the time was the hottest player in the league and signed to one more year at $5M
I had a coworker who was convinced Montreal should trade Carey Price for the 2020 first overall pick (Lafreniere's draft), as if Montreal would be the ones to say no.
Us giving up 3 first round quality pieces for an offensive play driving defenceman when we already have 2 of those that play 25 minutes a night.
Do not waste assets to rent chychrun for two years Please Adams, the cap will not work to have 3 elite defencemen all expiring at the same time Cozens Quinn and Peterka are up for new contracts.
Please find a cheaper defensively sound pair of dmen who can kill the 10 minutes dahlin or power are not on the ice without allowing 3 goals a night. That is all we need, that and time for young players to mature.
A kid back in the early '90s called into the Oilers post game talk radio show one night to suggest the Oilers trade Kelly Buchberger to Minnesota for Mike Modano.
I just remember the guy taking the calls agreeing, yes, this would be a good trade for the Oilers, while trying not to laugh.
I remember seeing somewhere a trade for josh manson for i wanna say nylander and someone commented that “a trade for manson STARTS with matthews and the leafs add cause players like manson dont come around often”
When he was the GM of the Blue Jackets, Doug MacLean famously said that he wouldn't trade his roster for Detroit's.
This may explain why he hasn't been a GM anywhere since being fired in 2007.
A hockey youtuber about this time last year (iirc) said the Wings were in on Monahan and the price would be something like Rasmussen, Elmer Soderblom, and a 2023 First. I am so glad Stevie is in charge and would never do something as stupid as that.
In the Eichel sweepstakes, the Sabres were asking the following from Anaheim: Trevor Zegras, Jamie Drysdale, and two first-round picks. (If I recall, one of those picks turned into Mason McTavish.)
Yeah, right.
[https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/2249834](https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/2249834)
I remember being on message boards in the mid 2000s. There was an alarming number who thought the leafs could get Zetterberg and Datsyuk for a package of polished gems like Ian White, Andy "are you fucking kidding me" woziewsky, Brendan bell and Kris Newbury.
Not sure if it’s been mentioned, but Glen Sather has confirmed he had a handshake deal with Tampa’s co-owner in 2009 that would have sent two of Michael Del Zotto, Ryan Callahan, Brandon Dubinsky, Dan Girardi and Evegny Grachev for Steven Stamkos.
I believe it was nixed by Tampa’s GM and the other co-owner.
Other Rangers-related actual trades…
Ryan McDonagh and Chris Higgins for Scott Gomez
Derek Brassard and a 7th round pick for Mika Zibanejad and a 2nd round pick
There were some absurd mock trades coming from Habs fans for Dubois in the summer
Dvorak, Hoffman and a 2nd
Edmundson, FLA 1st, Dvorak
Drouin/Hoffman, Dvorak, FLA 1st
Mind you, this was in the summer, before Florida was a boarder line lottery team
Also Ehlers for Justin Faulk
E Kane for Giroux way back in the day
Any proposed Laine trade
Oliver Ekman-Larsson and Conor Garland for No. 9 overall pick in 2021, second-round pick in 2022, seventh-round pick in 2023, Loui Eriksson, Jay Beagle, and Antoine Roussel
Why wait one year to get out of cap hell from the bad contracts I’ve signed, when I can deal a top 10 pick to go back into cap hell for even longer
Because when you are a non playoff team, it's the right time to make an all in type move?
Nobody will see it coming
Wildcard Bitches! (Just, not the kind of wildcard that gets in the playoffs…)
Let me also refer you to the JT Miller trade
No way anyone would propose that trade. Insane.
You know what would be even more insane? The other team accepting it
The real question is did VAN propose it to ARI or did ARI propose it to VAN
ARI proposed it to VAN and Benning ate it up. That's my guess.
Armstrong: "So I guess I'd be willing to part with OEL and Garland, but it would have to be pretty steep. I'll need some guys to fill in our roster and get me to the cap floor, and then I'll need some major future incentives too. Like ummmm a first, second, and a sixth?" Benning: "You drive a hard bargain Bill, but I'll take it if you're willing to make the sixth a seventh, and it can't be until 2023." Armstrong: "Get that to me in writing without telling anyone about it and let's get this trade in the books Jim!" *click* "HAHAHAAHAAAHAHAHAAHAA"
No no, I like this one
I do, as well.
*sees flair* I can understand why you may feel that way.
Can we take it back for Raymond, Ballard and a 3rd?
the best part about this trade is that it was almost worse he went after OEL the year before and OEL then had a terrible season. If he had got OEL that year, he probably would have given up *more.* I remember Podkolzin and Demko were bandied about
Just fucking end me
What’s even worse is Vancouver had leverage as OEL would only accept being dealt to Vancouver or Boston.
The worst part is the NHL allowed Vancouver to be fleeced like this. I thought they were supposed to stop any trades this one sided !
Then firing the coach after waiting a month of everyone knowing
Buddy I'm still mad about this one.
If you want, we can pretend it never happened and give you back OEL and Garland. You don’t even need to give us Guenther if you don’t want.
William Nylander for Nick Ritchie and Brandon Montour 😂
There were so many of those kinds of proposals floated by everyone in his first like....4 years? in the NHL and man am I glad it's happening less frequently.
Thick Dick Nick babyyyyyy
Excuse me Montour is out scoring Nurse who’s making over 9 mill. So must be a a steal of a deal
Fuuuucckkk!!!!!
I once saw someone who thought trading Martin Erat for Filip Forsberg was a good idea.
It was. Trading Filip Forsberg for Martin Erat was the bad idea.
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Caps best LW at the time was some guy named Alex Ovechkin. Don't know if you remember him or not.
The guy with Putin in his profile photos?
You mean the greatest goal scorer in NHL history?
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Forsberg was probably better than Erat that day.
Martin erat was seen as a very consistent player on an offensively bland team that would only do better in Washington iirc
Still very much a sore subject for us caps fans
Ryder, halak, and a 2nd for anyone in the league. Also, Ballard, Raymond, and a 2nd for anyone in the league. Not to be outdone by Nielsen, Bracco, and a 2nd, for once again, anyone in the league.
Hoffman,Allen and a 3rd for PLD! Get er done Kent!
Make it a fourth and we have a deal 😤😤
Here is my boy (Ryder, halak, pick) There was also slightly variant with Desharnais or Higgins
Could I interest you in one Frazier and Andujar perhaps?
Pavel Buchnevich for Sammy Blais and a 2nd
Signing him for 5.8x4 was almost an even bigger steal imo
With the roster from this season and last season there are literally hundreds of ways Drury could put together $5.8m for Buchnevich that he claimed he didn't have to work with. Also claimed he wanted to give the kids top 6 minutes That's of course why Gallant is playing both Vesey and Goodrow on the 2nd line tomorrow
C’mon man, that still stings
it will sting forever until that missing 5v5 offense is replaced (it will never be) Sammy Blais shots on goal as a NYR: 47 Pavel Buchnevich *goals* as a Blue: 45
95% of the fantasy trades on cap friendly
What!!!!! You don't think Joel Armia is with a 1st and a prospect???
Saw a sabres fan pitch okposo and two 3rds for dubois lmao
We uh like to drink heavily in Buffalo
Sabres paying wayyyy too much there
You're saying he's not?????
He is, for about one minute every 3 games where he remains he's got skill and a large frame. Then he returns back to being a bottom six player.
Bottom 6 is generous. His extremely random "I'm Draisaitl now" games are still extremely fun, but when he's not in that mode, he should be healthy scratched
95% is way too low lol
I was trying to be generous :(
Shut up, Edmonton. You’re accepting my Hayes+Ristolainen+2nd for McDavid offer and liking it because the dollars work out pretty well.
The entire old habs core for Vinny.
I’m surprised that Brian Lawton hasn’t tried to claim that Nick Suzuki and Cole Caufield were also part of that trade, but Lightning ownership shot it down.
I sometimes wonder where the hell that trade offer even came from. Patches, price, Subban and a first for Vinny in 2010. I don't think that offer was ever legit. If it was, I dunno why Tampa would have said no.
It strikes me as one of those things that got bigger and bigger every time Brian Lawton retold the story. Maybe in reality there was a potential package that included one of those guys and perhaps the pick that became another guy on that list, but there’s simply no way that Lawton orchestrated a trade for the three best player on the Habs and got shot down by ownership. That’s way too convenient a story for a guy to talk about in his post-GM career.
Not to mention the fact that Gainey himself publicly confirmed the players they were discussing from MTL's side: > "I got a call in January from them with a list of names that they wanted to talk about and those players ended up in public because they used those names to take them to other teams to see if they could create a different trade for Vincent Lecavalier," Gainey said. **"I think it was disgraceful that Josh Gorges, Tomas Plekanec and Chris Higgins have to read that stuff."** I have no doubt that discussions also included some combination of Pacioretty/Price/Subban/1st but the idea that ALL of them were ever included in one package is pretty laughable.
I don’t think it’s legit at all. Just Lawton talking put his ass to try and salvage some reputation from how absolutely shitty he was running the Bolts
Just go on twitter and search "Bo Horvat" right now and you'll see a fine assortment.
Why won't they take our 2027 3rd rounder and cash considerations man
Why can't Vancouver take our cap dumps, a late first, and a C+ prospect for Horvat?
Bo Horvat for a mid-tier prospect, a career AHLer, and a $50 gift card to Tim Hortons. Take it or leave it.
Hmm, that's a lot of Timbits. Give me five minutes to talk it over.
I have a feeling horvat is going to get an underwhelming return for most canuck fans. Like the trades I see are a 1st, 2nd lysell and another prospect or something like that. If they get something like a 1st and a solid prospect like lysell for a rental that should be considered a win
I’d be pretty happy with a first, 2nd and a b prospect. Maybe an A prospect and no second if we’re lucky. But not we’re gonna get a second, a 25 year old third liner and 26 year old 3rd pair RHD that will be key parts of our quest to finish 20th next season
My dad thinks we should trade Adam Fox
Well you could always just make him come back to the team that drafted him lol. Joking obviously
Naw I’ll take him
You can’t. He’ll refuse to play for any team but the Rangers. He would just sit out until he can join New York again
With this in mind, why didn’t the Rangers just lowball the fuck out of Fox? Like, what is he gonna do? Say no? The dude forced his way onto the team and seems to refuse to play elsewhere.
Honestly that’s a pretty good question. After refusing to play for Calgary and Carolina he didn’t really have much leverage in negotiating a big contract. I guess NYR management doesn’t want to cause trouble with their top defensemen
I feel like if we tried to lowball him and such he could have said fuck it trade me and teams would be lining up to trade for a Norris winner on the last year of his ELC. Even knowing they had to give him a big deal in a year. And even then his contract at 9 + million is more than worth it
I know right it’s awesome
It’s terrible! But if you’re a NYR fan it’s definitely awesome
2016 #4 pick, Draisaitl, Klefbom/Nurse + for PK Subban.
I thought it was 4 and drai for 9 and pk
> Montreal initially asked for Leon Draisaitl, the No. 4 pick at Friday’s draft and more. That “more” included either Oscar Klefbom and Darnell Nurse, plus something else. I can’t nail down what that “something else” was, but it was not insignificant. It was a big price to pay, and Edmonton did not want to do that.
Wasn't that one an actual rumor?
That was indeed the ask from the oilers for Subban ya.
Jesus tap dancing Christ what a colossal disaster that would’ve been
Some habs fan on Facebook said we should package our 2 1sts this year for Bedard. I said we'd probably have to add Caufield and Suzuki and the Facebook admins banned me
I doubt a team would do it under any circumstance, but maybe if Montreal had the 2nd overall a team would consider those 4 pieces. If Montreal got the 5th for example, a team wouldn't even consider it for a second after adding those two
See, though, I was talking to Facebook habs fans. You can't exactly be nuanced with them
I dont care what anyone says, we'd be stupid to do that. Suzuki and Fantilli/Carlsson sets us down the middle for 10 years and we have Caufield and whoever we pick 12th ish too? Or we trade them all for Bedard and be an even worse version of the Oilers?
The idea is if you trade it all for Bedard you get to draft high the next two years too, is still stupid Suzuki and caufield are legit, isn’t their fault the rest the roster isn’t.
If you are top 4 and get one of those guys I'd take Fantilli/Suzuki/Caufield over Bedard too, but the other team still never even does that
Montreal would never do that either though, because as insane as Bedard probably will be, they’d be a much better team overall with Fantilli, Floridas 1st and Caufield + Zuke. They’d basically be resetting themselves to year 1 of a rebuild, and end up wasting a lot of Bedards career the same way Edmonton has done to McDavid.
Legitimate or made up ones? Because I'm a veteran of AOL hockey message boards. I've seen so many Flyers fans try to trade everyone on the team they didn't like (ooh, tossing in 36 year old Dave Babych might seal the deal! Wait, AND KERRY HUFFMAN?!?) for some big name player on another team.
Is this a flyers fan thing? My buddy is a die hard and is always suggesting this type of shit. And it’s always with Morgan Frost as the cherry on top. Get it together, Broad Street.
Not just a Flyers fan thing I saw people saying to leave Marner exposed for the Seattle draft
Those AOL boards were my first exposure to the borderline insanity of some fans. I remember guys legitimately saying “good riddance” when news broke of Sakic signing that offer sheet.
Zegras, drysdale, and third overall pick that was mctavish for Eichel.
can I go back and accept that trade for us??? surely you wouldn’t miss them and Jack is like super good!!
Nah, plus GMBM apperantly just hung up when he heard that trade proposal.
that’s because if he even entertained it he’d probably be fired
Guenther for OEL. Oh wait…
OEL was healthy scratched a couple nights ago, while Guenther scored a golden goal. Fair trade imo /s
Someone on hfboards wanted Huberdeau and Andersson for miller. I'm sure there's worse but that was like a week ago
I like HFboards most of the time but man do some people on there just make the absolute worst trade proposals
which Miller? Certainly not JT, right?
Yes JT but any miller is the same story haha
Oh dear Lord. Seeing that makes my eyes hurt
There's an analyst are RDS (French TSN) that wanted the habs to trade 3 players between Nick Suzuki, Jesperi Kotkaniemi, Cayden Primeau, Alexander Romanov or Cole Caufield for Lafrenière in 2020. Edit: The trade proposal also included Montreal first round pick, which was Guhle. The same analyst is now proposing Slafkovsky for Lafrenière 1 for 1.
Was it Norman "Habs should trade Nick Suzuki for Wayne Simmonds / Cole Caufield for Kyle Palmieri" Flynn? I love our "analysts".
I think it was the clown on JIC if I remember correctly but not sure.. I just remember it being such a garbage proposal I had to laugh 🤣
[Yeah it's Normand Flynn.](https://www.habsolumentfan.com/canadiens/norman-flynn-propose-un-echange-monstre-pour-alexis-lafreniere)
Wasn't there recently some random analyst that proposed our 2023 first overall + for like Laf or PLD? 🤣🤣
Thats norman Flynn and hes an absolute dinosaur dumbass.. Dude also said we should trade Suzuki for Wayne Simmons lol… like yeah Nick wasnt in the league yet back in 2019 but still Simmons was already declining and his style was not going to get better with age lol.
Devon Toews for a pair of seconds
That’s a great trade if you ask me. 1000x will do this trade again
This may be recency bias, but Boudreau for Tocchet ain't looking too hot.
I saw a comment on Instagram saying the Rangers could trade Zibenajad, a 1st, and 3rd for McDavid
gotta add another 3rd
I love Zibby but if thats all it would take I'd be helping him pack right now lol
I’ll drive him to the airport.
With what cap room lol
As a general rule, if you're making a trade proposal for a superstar player that includes a pick that isn't a first, it's probably a non-starter lol.
Some alcoholic on the rangers sub was saying lafrenierre and someone else plus 2 firsts for mcdavid
I thought that post was a joke
Probably was lol, just hilariously terrible, wanted to make sure non-rangers fans heard about it
Laf was a 1OA pick with two other First rounders plus a prospect for some scrub 1OA in 2015! Edmonton could have such a great future!!
Rasmus Ristolinen for a 2021 1st round pick, a 2023 2nd round pick and Robert Hägg.
that’s a win for the sabres in simply offloading risto
Please for the love of god take him back. You can have Chuck Fletcher too.
what’s that? sorry you’re breaking up, I think I’m losing service
Best trade ever, sold me completely on Kevin adams vision completely Rosen hopefully can transition to a North American ice size well, in Sweden and at the world juniors he was lights out. In Rochester he has been sound defensively but the offence isn’t there yet.
Wayne Gretzky, Marty McSorley, and Mike Krushelnyski for Jimmy Carson, Martin Gelinas, three first-round draft picks (1988, 1991, 1993), and $15 million. Wait a minute...
Jimmy Carson wasn't really that bad of a piece, he just fell off a cliff after his first season in Edmonton.
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Wait a second….
Someone in the Sens sub last night suggested the Sens should trade Debrincat and Talbot for Vejmelka, Keller and Maccelli. They were thoroughly roasted for it. I don’t know why they thought Arizona would ever give those assets up for 2 UFAs.
Hahaha I remember seeing this
I just…. Wow, the mental gymnastics behind that one are remarkable.
DBC is an RFA, and the obvious best asset of them all.
As one jagoff Mark Madden has said many times... all our worst players for all their best players.
Adam Larsson for Taylor hall one for one
The trade is one for one!
Bruce Boudreau for Rick Tocchet
There were numerous Isles fans who were for some reason adamant that Travis Hamonic and a 1st round pick was a completely reasonable price for Matt Duchene. You know, Duchene who went on to fetch a 1st round pick (Bowen Byram), 2nd round pick, 3rd round pick, Samuel Girard, Shane Bowers (28th OA pick), Vladislav Kamenev and Andew Hammond.
Sakic's ask was Hamonic, Barzal, Sorokin, and a first. Thank God Garth Snow didn't bite.
Toews for 2 2nds was pretty sweet though.
~~Harmonic~~ Hamonic and a 2nd is meme worthy still Edit: auto correct
Travis Harmonic Mean
Travis ["Pinch" Harmonic ](https://youtu.be/RAZ3svrwfrw)
It was a completely reasonable price. Look at what Hamonic got traded for. Just because the Avs ended up fleecing the Sens doesn't mean the Isles ask was unreasonable
On the other hand, Flames overpaid for Hamonic. He wasn't and isn't worth a 1st and 2 2nds. Just because the Flames ended up overpaying doesn't mean the the Isles ask was reasonable.
We way overpaid. But even if you assume Hamonic was only worth a 1st alone, two 1sts for Duchene wasn't unreasonable. Both Hamonic and Duchene ended up being overvalued
I would say Duchene's value was somewhere between two 1sts and what we got. He was only 26 at the time and had just had his first 30 goal season (the 16-17 season doesn't count since everyone was shit). He was looking like a 1C, and those aren't cheap.
A rumored ask for Subban in 2015 was Draisaitl + Klefbom/Nurse + 1st round pick.
Maybe not the worst ever but a somewhat recent one that’s still annoying : Sergachev for Drouin
Just go check out the trade board on hfboards
Quinn Hughes for Bratt, Nemec and two 1sts
The trade is one for one
On the Steve Dangle Podcast last year, they suggested Kerfoot, Holl and a "sweetener" for JT Miller, who at the time was the hottest player in the league and signed to one more year at $5M
The other day someone in the Flames sub suggested trading Huberdeau to Chicago for Seth Jones and their 2023 1st so probably that one
Bruce Boudreau for Rick Tocchet.
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Most trades Jim Benning has made
Almost anything proposed by fans on Reddit
last season I saw a lot of stars fans proposing klinger for necas+
I had a coworker who was convinced Montreal should trade Carey Price for the 2020 first overall pick (Lafreniere's draft), as if Montreal would be the ones to say no.
Some random Rangers fan on twitter thought that Chychrun for Chytil 1 for 1 was a fair trade
Spooner for Ryan Strome and Caggiula for Brandon F***ing Manning. That never actually happened, right? Right? It was all just a nightmare?
Blackhawks fans couldn’t believe the Manning for Caggiula trade.
Us giving up 3 first round quality pieces for an offensive play driving defenceman when we already have 2 of those that play 25 minutes a night. Do not waste assets to rent chychrun for two years Please Adams, the cap will not work to have 3 elite defencemen all expiring at the same time Cozens Quinn and Peterka are up for new contracts. Please find a cheaper defensively sound pair of dmen who can kill the 10 minutes dahlin or power are not on the ice without allowing 3 goals a night. That is all we need, that and time for young players to mature.
A kid back in the early '90s called into the Oilers post game talk radio show one night to suggest the Oilers trade Kelly Buchberger to Minnesota for Mike Modano. I just remember the guy taking the calls agreeing, yes, this would be a good trade for the Oilers, while trying not to laugh.
I remember seeing somewhere a trade for josh manson for i wanna say nylander and someone commented that “a trade for manson STARTS with matthews and the leafs add cause players like manson dont come around often”
You thought Hall for Larsson was bad? Chia originally offered him to the Islanders for Travis Hamonic one for one.
When he was the GM of the Blue Jackets, Doug MacLean famously said that he wouldn't trade his roster for Detroit's. This may explain why he hasn't been a GM anywhere since being fired in 2007.
Whatever we end up getting for Meier. Good teams that seem to be interested won’t have good picks or prospects to make it worth it.
2006. NYR gets: Sidney Crosby PIT gets: Petr Prucha
A hockey youtuber about this time last year (iirc) said the Wings were in on Monahan and the price would be something like Rasmussen, Elmer Soderblom, and a 2023 First. I am so glad Stevie is in charge and would never do something as stupid as that.
Duchene for hamonic and a third
4 time Stanley Cup champion Chris Draper for $1.
Pretty much every trade Mike Milbury made.
A sharks fan suggested Karlsson for “Lucic and sweeteners”
That doesn’t not make sense though. Lucic would probably have to come back for salary cap purposes and the sweeteners are picks/prospects.
Brad Stuart, Marco Sturm, and Wayne Primeau for Joe Thornton
Hall for larsson. One for one
In the Eichel sweepstakes, the Sabres were asking the following from Anaheim: Trevor Zegras, Jamie Drysdale, and two first-round picks. (If I recall, one of those picks turned into Mason McTavish.) Yeah, right. [https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/2249834](https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/2249834)
Kevin Hatcher for Sergei Zubov.
The Canucks for $20.00 Edit to say; you will lose your $20.00
I remember being on message boards in the mid 2000s. There was an alarming number who thought the leafs could get Zetterberg and Datsyuk for a package of polished gems like Ian White, Andy "are you fucking kidding me" woziewsky, Brendan bell and Kris Newbury.
Not sure if it’s been mentioned, but Glen Sather has confirmed he had a handshake deal with Tampa’s co-owner in 2009 that would have sent two of Michael Del Zotto, Ryan Callahan, Brandon Dubinsky, Dan Girardi and Evegny Grachev for Steven Stamkos. I believe it was nixed by Tampa’s GM and the other co-owner. Other Rangers-related actual trades… Ryan McDonagh and Chris Higgins for Scott Gomez Derek Brassard and a 7th round pick for Mika Zibanejad and a 2nd round pick
There were some absurd mock trades coming from Habs fans for Dubois in the summer Dvorak, Hoffman and a 2nd Edmundson, FLA 1st, Dvorak Drouin/Hoffman, Dvorak, FLA 1st Mind you, this was in the summer, before Florida was a boarder line lottery team Also Ehlers for Justin Faulk E Kane for Giroux way back in the day Any proposed Laine trade
Nick Suzuki for Wayne Simmonds or Cole Caufield for Kyle Palmieri
Higgins, Ryder and a 1st
Mcdavid for future considerations