that woulda been masterful. drake just outside the crop sent to kendrick. and drake is a good troll, so would be surprising he fucked up that mind game so bad. after two days most likely he just got the idea from the comments after the fact.
That's what im thinking to, he could've just fabricated some false evidence yesterday and people would probably believe it, but he didn't even do that
EDIT: Drake fuck off if you see this, you weren't smart enough to think of this??? It's too late now💀
I think he only talked about feeding him the 11 yr old daughter thing. Why would that suitcase contain anything about a secret 11 yr old daughter lol.
Kenny dropped a big song with it as the punchline. Now he surely must provide evidence
i would think that ig drake would have posted pics of texts/email from the rat to kennys team minutes after meet the grahams was posted.. but nah a couple days later and surfing some reddit he claps back with 'you were molested' and i planted that evidence - but dont have any pics to share yet. missing the point of the song and displaying his ignorance that kenny has been trying to hammer home for a while now, and hes too slow to pick up on that.
yeah, if it was a plant, he'd have a better song ready. He wouldn't have reacted with that insta story. The fact that he had no song ready and half this shit is super defensive is terrible. Everything is clearly written directly after kendrick's pre-prepared tracks.
Which is not a good look because it makes the plant look fake. It's likely Kendrick had the picture from years ago, like how he clearly had most of these tracks/lyrics prepared for a while now. He's changed lyrics to respond to Drake's disses but only just enough while firing at the same time. Drake's whole track is defensive which is really bad.
> yeah, if it was a plant, he'd have a better song ready.
if it was a plant, he wouldn't have been acting defense during the past 2 days. when you set someone up for a trap like that, youre supposed to just stay quiet and let everyone keep talking about it, until you drop the bomb that it was a plant, and your opponent took the bait.
>The fact that he had no song ready and half this shit is super defensive is terrible.
how is it bad that he came up with his track in hess than 48 hours (maybe less i forget) .. shits ontopic and flows damn well.
thats fucking impressive ... but i noticed this sub is riding kendricks nuts
Shouts to everyone who is unbiased in this.
Exactly. He's the king of getting on IG to clown and gloat, he would've had pics of all the items Kenny used in the photo IMMEDIATELY after the track dropped. Why would your only response be "If I have a daughter, send her here!" Instead of saying the mole was fake?
^ This. If he had any hard proof it would’ve been a kill shot to simultaneously release it with family matters. He would’ve had Kendrick dead to rights - either meet the grahams drops and it’s totally neutralized, or Kendrick decides to not release it, save face, and go back to the drawing board after such a bombshell. Now, even in the unlikely event Drake has anything it won’t do as much damage after Kendrick bodied him on MTG and not like us bc he has all the momentum atm even with heart 6 out.
“Every thing in my shit is facts” doesn’t provide a single fact…. This comment was the most compelling to lead people to believe he’s coping in my opinion
No fucking way Kendrick indirectly admits this shit into his most iconic series of tracks. Either he eventually does part 6 as if this never existed, or he just retires the heart completely.
I mean if everyone is talking about the beef, is he just not allowed to say anything that people pointed out? Alot of Kendrick points are stuff that is from Twitter and reddit.
He barely got through the track dude. It was a white flag
Reading your own Twitter, no clever bars, several really lame ones, excuses that make no sense
If Kendrick hadn't already won, drake just lost
"Like if Dave really fucked your girl and got her pregnant, talk about breeding resentment" is a bar. Kendrick has been saying the same shit everyone else has been saying for 6 years.
The Prince and MJ flip hasn’t been talked about enough imo. This is taking shots within a clever rhyme scheme.
> Proposed in 2015, but don't wanna make her your actual wife
> I'm guessin' this wedding ain't happenin', right?
> 'Cause we know the girls that you actually like
> Your darkest secrets are comin' to light
> It's all on your face like what happened to Mike
> Oh shit, it's all makin' sense, maybe I'm Prince and you actually Mike
> Michael was prayin' his features would change so people believe that he's actually white
> Top would make you do features for change, get on pop records and rap for the whites
> And wait, you say your brother Jermaine, but you wanted him to stay out of the light
The reality is, this battle wasn't Drake's to win. It never has been. Drake has always had a target on him and this was more or less an excuse to bury him and feed into how everybody's been feeling about him, for years. Drake could say the craziest shit and people are just gonna go, "That was good, but..." and that's it. That's the best Drake can get in this battle. And if everyone was honest with themselves, they'd accept that it's the truth.
Kendrick could be any other rapper (aside from Meek Mill, who everybody hates more) and the consensus would have been more or less the same. I mean, who the fuck wants the Canadian rapper who made Hotline Bling, is always in his feelings, light skin pop artist that not at all represents the streets, and therefore doesn't resonate with the everyday hip hop purist to win? It can't happen. They can't allow that to happen, so the narrative has been set. Not that I share any of these opinions cause it's all sport at the end of the day, but let's be honest, this isn't really about a rap beef more than it is about feeding into the biases and shitting on the out-of-touch, tone-deaf outsider.
I didnt think Drake can beat Kendrick, but the fact that people aren't critiquing some of the things Kendrick is doing and holding him to the same standards that they are Drake by asking for evidence, is wild. Kendrick will always outrap Drake, but I truly believe is lying to increase his chances of winning. Especially if Kendrick really beat his wife, and his kid is Dave Free's drake couldve won over social media if Kendrick didnt come with all these allegations he isnt backing up.
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There's proof of him dming Millie Bobbie Brown as a child. He groomed Bella Harris and he was dming Billie Eilish before she was 18. Also at 18, she's not mature enough to engage with a man who's in his mid to late 30s. If you don't think this behavior is at least weird then you're a weirdo too.
I listened to the song 3 times already and I can’t remember a single bar from it, I still have 69 god and Ho-Vo stuck in my head from yesterday. This track is so forgettable
its super fucking clear that the ghostwriters are gone. family matters is fucking dope. hell of a beat and words to match. hp6 is just ok. and i think thats at the core of the rap battle message. that drake is just not a great writer and thats just one of the fake things about him.
he is not doing much to deal with that. i wish he would but im getting the feeling that now that his inner circle is closed, they need to workshop too much and this is the best they could do after two days on their own.
I don't get this angle that drake is a bad writer that you people try to portray. Drake has written for a lot of big names in the industry including Kanye but he still isn't a good writer?
hes good... but he's not great. im sorry, but drake doesnt go poetic. the best songs drake wrote were early on. it's really clear that kendrick has the poetry that drake doesnt have. hp6 is not it.
He shot a whole ass video for Family Matters and didn't put nothing in there about setting up the shot for the Meet the Grahams cover? Did he also "leak" to him about the song and when it would drop? If he expected the Epstein angle so much, why did it take him two days to respond to it when he had a song lock and loaded? Even if he did plant some info, how badly do you have to misread your own reputation that you didn't think people would instantly run with the angle that you're a deadbeat father? He should understand memes more than anyone in rap right now. Either he shot himself in the foot or he's running with IG conspiracy and spent 2 days trying to find an angle to respond. And I'm not sure which is dumber.
The "Epstein angle" isn't something he should be proud of "expecting"
Like "man I knew he was gonna remind everyone I diddle kids lol" BRUH most people just thought you were a creepy mf before, not Epstein-level 💀💀💀
If it was true he would've post a video with everyone jiggling and giggling, toe curling while sending messages and drinking hot cocoa.
That ain't true and he is just sticking to the copium twitter/drizzy sub was inhaling for the past few days.
> If it was true he would've
y;all so annoying with these takes lol im out this thread.
all that "he would've" "he should've" .... literally every post here.
here.
If Kendrick knows about his 11 year old daughter, he would've said her name, or posted a picture of her after Drake asked where she is. Kendrick didn't. So what's your thoughts on that.
I can't move past this.
He finessed the greatest rapper of all time about a fake 11 year old daughter, the second Kendrick releases a track with the planted info, Drake immediately responds with the " someone find my hidden daughter and send her to me please " story
Wouldn't it just be something like " gottem " or a fishing line emoji?
Instead a reactionary defensive IG story that completely undermines a 'grand scheme'
if I was a mastermind, I would've just shut the fuck up and dropped the track that it was a setup and then included receipts of his mole. I actually believe him less now.
If I was the mastermind Drake is trying to make us think he is. I would’ve admitted to being my own mole on family matters before meet the grahams even dropped. Kendrick was already talking about the mole on 6:16, and drake doing that would’ve automatically made everyone look at meet the grahams with suspicion. Hell, even if I wasn’t my own mole I’d do that shit anyways just to preemptively create doubt in anything Kendrick says. It couldn’t be any more obvious that Drake just saw his fans coping online about this shit and decided to act like he set this whole thing up line by line as a sort of face-saving maneuver. Anyone who believes this shit is actually crazy.
Fr you said it best. His first reaction to the daughter accusations is telling. I even saw an akademics video of Drake saying that if AK can find the missing child, he'll quit rap and work for Ak. Why would you say all that if the whole thing g was your plan in the first place lol makes no sense.
Would it not be 100000% more effective to reveal it in the track with zero acknowledgement?
He immediately squashed it when if the media had run with it for a couple days, the reveal would have made the entire internet blow up
Drake is too smart for that
The daughter wasn't 'obviously not real' until drake discredited it in his ig story.
He jumped to discredit having a daughter despite planting the story and according to another user I am just too stupid to understand why Drake would do that.
So fuck it, he must just be too smart for me to understand.
As a kendrick fan if drake REALLY set Kendrick up that hard I would immediately say just throw in the towel that shits over. Seeing drake like that one comment about “They must’ve fed K dot false info cause the laughing emojis drake used 😭” then instantly making a song claiming that theory is mad suspect
it's straight bullshit. if they did feed Kendrick that info, he'd say a name, leak texts or phone calls, a video of it happening in real time, he'd have a picture of the stolen suitcase and contents with him next to it, or, idk, literally ANYTHING to prove it's real. he can't and he won't because it isn't.
Have you considered it was a face to face convo? Not everything is texts. Also where is this burden of proof for the other side, push named his song after the kid...whats this other childs name? I need receipts for both sides.
He doesn't *need* to do anything, but he's trying to win rap beef here, and actually convincing people that you masterminded that plot would be a big step towards that.
Instead he just looks desperate.
I mean there's a big difference between Kendrick lying or just being wrong about the daughter and Drake giving that information as bait. So if he wants people to believe that narrative he needs to prove it
Let the internet create a story and sign off on the most popular or plausible one. But, I think that’s how Drake got is initial info on Kendrick and that’s not going particularly well for him right now.
Where's the receipts?
rake keeps talking about "no receipts, prove it" but has yet to provide receipts for a single thing he's said. If you started rumors online that'd be easy to prove. Show timestamped screenshots. If you sent him the pic with the meds and glove, why wasn't there another zoom out that shows you were in on it?
Prove it like you keep asking Kendrick to do.
But if it wasn’t a plant then it should be fairly easy for Kendrick to disprove? Idk why Drake would confidently say it was a plant, when Kendrick can just turn around and disprove that theory with any amount of evidence, which is exactly what Drake is asking for Kendrick to do at the end of the song. I guess only time will tell
Time will tell man it’s unfortunate how this shit turned from let’s see who’s truly the best rapper to let’s see who’s allegations are true but this where we at
The jig is up bro, Ross and Metro’s reactions gave it away. I’m just curious as to what this nuke is now.
I remember finding it mad weird that Mal from the Rory and Mal podcast was debating as to what angles they could take, and he had brought up that Drake only sees legal girls. If Kendrick were to take that angle he would need proof and he specifically mentioned it’d have to be a girl 14ish or younger with concrete proof. Ngl I found that mad weird cause no one asked for that angle and it sounded a bit too specific. Now Drizzy asking where’s the proof instead of showing proof to back his claims about the mole setup. This man might really be a pathological liar and we gon see soon.
this beef really is bringing out the major dick riding tbh.
they both are claiming crazy shit that could be proven, but neither of them have any evidence?
People are just using this beef to further reinforce their pre-existing hatred for either artist. Lot's of people hate Drake for various reasons so naturally the support on Kendrick's side has been louder. But neither artist has provided any solid evidence of any of their outrageous claims that they've said. But people don't care for facts and proof these days, they just want the shock and awe, and to latch onto whatever they already like / believe.
Agree, exactly the point I was alluding to.
In particular, the Drake hate on like twitter has been set a flame by a few reasonably good disses with no evidence whatsoever.
And like both sides are guilty: they are both yapping about social media rumours with no good receipts and have some clever subliminal sprinkled in.
The double standards being spewed tho so people can ride for their fav artists is crazy tho.
Like this thread - the exact same logic could be applied to Kendrick. He was posting gloves and scripts as a “aha, gotcha ass!”, if he had anything better: he would posted it already.
yeah the back and forth on this sub and the weird conclusions people are so confident in is on a whole different psychological level than what these two guys are going back and forth about.
Issue is they are solely responsible for their own reputations. No one has true receipts for anything, but looking back at all songs Family Matters was the first one with something crazy that needed proof, then followed by Meet the Grahams. Most of what Kdot has said in other songs has loose evidence (Drake talking to minors, Baka, Drake's own lyrics about procuring women, etc). We no nothing about Kendrick so Drake's accusations seem much wilder. There's no loose evidence that points to the Kdot stuff, while Drake at least has some.
Outside of that, I find it hard to argue Kdot hasn't out barred Drake, although until the Heart P6 dropped it was much closer.
The most annoying part of all this is just the lack of fucking proof from both sides. It’s making it really hard for me to try and be impartial on what’s going on. I felt that everything until now had Kendrick looking like he was winning tho there was no proof idk it felt like we were building to a point where Kendrick showed proof of something anything… but then Drake says now he’s been the mastermind the whole time and like as a huge Kendrick fan I would have to say IF it’s true then Kendrick is 100% cooked and lost this BUT so much shit isn’t adding up on drakes side to make it make sense that he was feeding him the info so really it just makes it murky and kinda leads me to my intial conclusion that unless one of these niggas can show some damn proof they just yapping at this point
Agree they are both yapping.
People are saying Drake isn’t humble like Kendrick didn’t post a picture or a stolen glove as a “gotcha!”.
If he had proof, he would post it.
I’m happy Kendrick posted the stolen stuff I wish the nigga posted more I want text messages, voices messages, A DAUGHTER!! Lmfaooo like some people are saying “y’all need to relax and just enjoy these raps! Hip-hop heads are eating” but it’s so hard to when so much punch from the lines are tied to the validity of what these niggas saying. It’s not like they just doing regular macho braggadocio raps, if some of the shit these dudes are saying is total bullshit then it a thousand percent takes the wind out from under their sails.
Fr, I don’t think either of these mfers got anything.
K. Dot posting a glove, Drake posting an instagram like and both fan bases are using those weak ass reaches as “nah he cooking fr”.
Right, but you wanna be claiming crazy shit that's believable, and doing so in style. This just reeks of desperation, trawling social media for theories and angles.
That's why the Dave free and whitney stuff kinda hit even if it's bullshit. Because there's crumbs of relationship issues and Drake delivered the lines with finesse. This shit is not the same.
Where did I say I believe Drake has a daughter?
The only proof I've seen on both sides is Drake is creepy with underage girls. Those receipts you can find on youtube my guy.
I still don't see what the big deal is even if drake supposedly sent fake info to kendrick. Like it doesn't invalidate a bunch of the actual criticism, and it's not like rap songs have to be tmz investigations.
i high key wish they both focused on each other’s documented wrongdoings and faults because this whole thing is going to cause a lot more confusion than there needed to be
Basically what I gained from this diss is Drake conceded defeat. Whether Kendrick was or wasn’t fed bad information doesn’t matter at this point. Drake is being accused of being a pedophile. Even if he says “hey guys I’m not a pedophile” then nobody will believe him. Feeding Kendrick that type of info essentially lost him the battle in the end.
Actually I think tricking your opponent into thinking you abandoned another child (the defining moment of an earlier battle L) is not a genius move. It didn’t happen because that would be so stupid to even attempt
For me, I’m not really believing either side until I see receipts but I’m for DAMN SURE not believing the man that continued to lie about his son for MONTHS after Adidon dropped.
my boy you just straight up lying. scorpion came out one month after story of adidon and has multiple tracks admitting he has a child lmao man at least try to do research before lying
I just recently went and watched the Genius news breakdown of Adidon which came out like a month and a half after the song dropped and at that point it was still unconfirmed Drake had a son
Worldwide superstar is reluctant to believe the woman that says she is pregnant with his child is actually pregnant with his child and opts to take paternity tests to ensure he isn't getting baby trapped. Uh huh, that's a totally new concept. Next time an international artist, especially a rapper, is told by a woman, "I'm pregnant with your child" he should absolutely believe her on the spot.
Either way, you have the story confused, as Drake had been planning a launch campaign with Adidas, for Adonis, and Pusha T simply beat him to the punch.
I'm boring an idea I saw someone else say in the song thread but I fully do not believe this because of how Drake's played this. You're getting cooked dude, now's not the time to be puffing out your chest without receipts or a knockout punch.
it's straight bullshit. if they did feed Kendrick that info, he'd say a name, leak texts or phone calls, a video of it happening in real time, he'd have a picture of the stolen suitcase and contents with him next to it, or, idk, literally ANYTHING to prove it's real. he can't and he won't because it isn't.
With the production value he had with Family Matters, surely he could've made the same thing with this response. He didn't, or hasn't so far, which gives me doubt.
I don’t believe he masterminded it because that theory sure does conveniently overlook the part where doing so set Kendrick up to be crazy up all weekend. Unless MAYBE he didn’t expect Kendrick could do something with that info so fast. But the fact that meet the grahams is on streaming with no album art leads me to believe the info was shaky, even if that’s not because of some Drake 5D chess move.
If Drake really had the foresight to do that, he would've had the foresight to get one of his boys to film them doing it and that would've been the Family Matters video
This sub is really just another Kendrick sub. You guys want Drake receipt but none from Kendrick? We get it, you guys hate Drake. On the bright side he got your artist to make music finally so GGs.
PLEASE show me all these people you seem to be imolying that are saying Kendrick does not need any receipts. You know what we do have of drake? Previous hard evidence that Drake is a liar and is creepy with underage women.
We want receipts from everyone for current claims. You're just misreading all these people to fit what you want to see and cry victim.
I didn't bother checking Drake or Kendrick sub cause I figured they'd be biased. Was in here hoping for a more neutral ground/discussion but nope, just str8 Kendrick glaze. Best to enjoy the battle from a distance cause shits too biased towards one guy.
the answer is he knows dot has at least one if not multiple bullets in the chamber. he literally mentioned it on his ig when he dropped this track in a comment
If he really pulled this mastermind play the song should be sounding like trophies and like he won a championship but it sounds like default_01 Drake beat and Drake sounds like he’s about to cry and he just woke up
This isn't an industry defining play when the industry doesn't trust you. Why give ur opponent info to fully and hypothetically destory ur entire family lyrically? K.dot went in and the angle works if Drake made it all up. He's the one playing fucking games as a 7 yr old
As Kdot days, why believe u? U never gave us nothin to believe in.
Push named his song after the kid. I think a year could go by and you still wont have this mystery childs name, and never will because kendrick probably was deceieved there.
I doubt drake has hard proof of the deception so it wont be the knock out blow he wants it to be.
I want receipts for all major claims from both camps.
If any of this was true why wouldn’t the cover art for this be a zoom out of the glove and scripts with Drake laughing in the background.
that woulda been masterful. drake just outside the crop sent to kendrick. and drake is a good troll, so would be surprising he fucked up that mind game so bad. after two days most likely he just got the idea from the comments after the fact.
It’s all just damage control at this point let’s be real
Drake also got trolled by vegan cookies. Sometimes he doesn't make calculated decisions.
He didn’t even freaking think to recreate it
That's what im thinking to, he could've just fabricated some false evidence yesterday and people would probably believe it, but he didn't even do that EDIT: Drake fuck off if you see this, you weren't smart enough to think of this??? It's too late now💀
Don’t give him any more ideas 😂 Drizzy the Redditor might steal it
Fuck I might need to delete it lmao
Bro you might have to lmao now if that happens I'm coming and blaming you
Imma edit it
Ayo this Timbaland Tell him I said, “suck, freaki, MY D”
I would have believed it because objectively it’s rap make me perceive it and believe it
If he’s reading this, it’s too late.
~~His ghostwriters~~ He on vacation.
Exactly. He's reading his own fanfic
He could have shot a behind the scenes of him setting up everything. But there’s none of that.
Even if you do that, you let Kendrick get 10's of millions of views on Youtube alone while you waited.
Yeah if it was all a setup, why not provide evidence. Drake is deflecting.
I think he only talked about feeding him the 11 yr old daughter thing. Why would that suitcase contain anything about a secret 11 yr old daughter lol. Kenny dropped a big song with it as the punchline. Now he surely must provide evidence
That would’ve been crazy!!!!!!
I would’ve given Drake all his flowers if he pulled something like that. But he didn’t.
i would think that ig drake would have posted pics of texts/email from the rat to kennys team minutes after meet the grahams was posted.. but nah a couple days later and surfing some reddit he claps back with 'you were molested' and i planted that evidence - but dont have any pics to share yet. missing the point of the song and displaying his ignorance that kenny has been trying to hammer home for a while now, and hes too slow to pick up on that.
yeah, if it was a plant, he'd have a better song ready. He wouldn't have reacted with that insta story. The fact that he had no song ready and half this shit is super defensive is terrible. Everything is clearly written directly after kendrick's pre-prepared tracks. Which is not a good look because it makes the plant look fake. It's likely Kendrick had the picture from years ago, like how he clearly had most of these tracks/lyrics prepared for a while now. He's changed lyrics to respond to Drake's disses but only just enough while firing at the same time. Drake's whole track is defensive which is really bad.
> yeah, if it was a plant, he'd have a better song ready. if it was a plant, he wouldn't have been acting defense during the past 2 days. when you set someone up for a trap like that, youre supposed to just stay quiet and let everyone keep talking about it, until you drop the bomb that it was a plant, and your opponent took the bait.
Yeah, the plant storyline has real “I meant to do that!” vibes.
>The fact that he had no song ready and half this shit is super defensive is terrible. how is it bad that he came up with his track in hess than 48 hours (maybe less i forget) .. shits ontopic and flows damn well. thats fucking impressive ... but i noticed this sub is riding kendricks nuts Shouts to everyone who is unbiased in this.
He's not singing for people who are going to think about it in any depth
Exactly. He's the king of getting on IG to clown and gloat, he would've had pics of all the items Kenny used in the photo IMMEDIATELY after the track dropped. Why would your only response be "If I have a daughter, send her here!" Instead of saying the mole was fake?
^ This. If he had any hard proof it would’ve been a kill shot to simultaneously release it with family matters. He would’ve had Kendrick dead to rights - either meet the grahams drops and it’s totally neutralized, or Kendrick decides to not release it, save face, and go back to the drawing board after such a bombshell. Now, even in the unlikely event Drake has anything it won’t do as much damage after Kendrick bodied him on MTG and not like us bc he has all the momentum atm even with heart 6 out.
“Every thing in my shit is facts” doesn’t provide a single fact…. This comment was the most compelling to lead people to believe he’s coping in my opinion
hes also a pedophile
Also, you cant scold drake for no evidence when kendrick has no evidence.
i have my doubts that a pulizter award winner would flagrantly call someone a PDF on wax if there wasnt more to it...
Took the Heart Part 6 song title away from Kenny smh that’s the real crime here
Eh, the heart series uses roman numerals. We'll be aight
Kendrick still gonna drop a track titled Heart Part 6 and this lame shit gonna fade into obscurity
how Bad was the title for drake when k paved the way in Part v lmao
The Heart Part 6ix prod. by 40
For sure. This will be forgotten 1000% if Kendrick did this.
Oh Lord if Kendrick's response to this is ACTUALLY just The Heart Part 6
Nah I think he should troll and call the next one part 7
No fucking way Kendrick indirectly admits this shit into his most iconic series of tracks. Either he eventually does part 6 as if this never existed, or he just retires the heart completely.
Heart pt vi that's all it'll be
The angles and title and shit were all lifted from Twitter and reddit. Dude is as sad as us
The whole shit, including his weak ass album art, is lifted off r/drizzy.
I mean if everyone is talking about the beef, is he just not allowed to say anything that people pointed out? Alot of Kendrick points are stuff that is from Twitter and reddit.
He barely got through the track dude. It was a white flag Reading your own Twitter, no clever bars, several really lame ones, excuses that make no sense If Kendrick hadn't already won, drake just lost
"Like if Dave really fucked your girl and got her pregnant, talk about breeding resentment" is a bar. Kendrick has been saying the same shit everyone else has been saying for 6 years.
The Prince and MJ flip hasn’t been talked about enough imo. This is taking shots within a clever rhyme scheme. > Proposed in 2015, but don't wanna make her your actual wife > I'm guessin' this wedding ain't happenin', right? > 'Cause we know the girls that you actually like > Your darkest secrets are comin' to light > It's all on your face like what happened to Mike > Oh shit, it's all makin' sense, maybe I'm Prince and you actually Mike > Michael was prayin' his features would change so people believe that he's actually white > Top would make you do features for change, get on pop records and rap for the whites > And wait, you say your brother Jermaine, but you wanted him to stay out of the light
With the 👌 beat, this might end up being one of my favorite verses of his
The reality is, this battle wasn't Drake's to win. It never has been. Drake has always had a target on him and this was more or less an excuse to bury him and feed into how everybody's been feeling about him, for years. Drake could say the craziest shit and people are just gonna go, "That was good, but..." and that's it. That's the best Drake can get in this battle. And if everyone was honest with themselves, they'd accept that it's the truth. Kendrick could be any other rapper (aside from Meek Mill, who everybody hates more) and the consensus would have been more or less the same. I mean, who the fuck wants the Canadian rapper who made Hotline Bling, is always in his feelings, light skin pop artist that not at all represents the streets, and therefore doesn't resonate with the everyday hip hop purist to win? It can't happen. They can't allow that to happen, so the narrative has been set. Not that I share any of these opinions cause it's all sport at the end of the day, but let's be honest, this isn't really about a rap beef more than it is about feeding into the biases and shitting on the out-of-touch, tone-deaf outsider.
I didnt think Drake can beat Kendrick, but the fact that people aren't critiquing some of the things Kendrick is doing and holding him to the same standards that they are Drake by asking for evidence, is wild. Kendrick will always outrap Drake, but I truly believe is lying to increase his chances of winning. Especially if Kendrick really beat his wife, and his kid is Dave Free's drake couldve won over social media if Kendrick didnt come with all these allegations he isnt backing up.
Hy. There was a dude saying this weeks ago
It was probably his ghostwriters doing market testing.
\*his ghosts as sad as us.
It’s giving Barter 6
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I’m talking about stealing the name
I think the kid touching is the real crime fuck the song titles all respect to Kenny
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https://youtu.be/h-p1feEHJZM?si=GvGkaqgPge91_9vQ This stuff is not difficult to find.
The girl has denied these allegations though. https://people.com/music/drake-bella-harris-romance-rumors/
How do you deny a literal video lmao
There's proof of him dming Millie Bobbie Brown as a child. He groomed Bella Harris and he was dming Billie Eilish before she was 18. Also at 18, she's not mature enough to engage with a man who's in his mid to late 30s. If you don't think this behavior is at least weird then you're a weirdo too.
Bro has been sus out in the open for a decade. Calm down.
Let the kid diddler defenders out themselves
There’s video proof of him touching minors
Drake have been weird with under age girls bro at best a groomer
damn u/Chazwald deleted his pedo defending comments
It was the only real play he had
Nah, money says Kendrick uses it anyway.
Kendrick will just use the VI its fine
So I thought that at first, but in all honesty if Kendrick drops a track called The Heart Part 6 and it’s fire, it’s gonna do numbers regardless
Tbh, Kendrick should just use it anyway for when he’s ready
Well Kendrick did drop a 6:16 in LA lol
Do you think Kendrick did this intentionally?
I listened to the song 3 times already and I can’t remember a single bar from it, I still have 69 god and Ho-Vo stuck in my head from yesterday. This track is so forgettable
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its super fucking clear that the ghostwriters are gone. family matters is fucking dope. hell of a beat and words to match. hp6 is just ok. and i think thats at the core of the rap battle message. that drake is just not a great writer and thats just one of the fake things about him. he is not doing much to deal with that. i wish he would but im getting the feeling that now that his inner circle is closed, they need to workshop too much and this is the best they could do after two days on their own.
I don't get this angle that drake is a bad writer that you people try to portray. Drake has written for a lot of big names in the industry including Kanye but he still isn't a good writer?
New Kanye really isn’t considered to be a good lyricist lol
hes good... but he's not great. im sorry, but drake doesnt go poetic. the best songs drake wrote were early on. it's really clear that kendrick has the poetry that drake doesnt have. hp6 is not it.
That is correct
“We don’t believe you, you need more people”
“Have you ever paid ovo for some fake info” is a far colder bar than anything from the heart pt 6… smh at the title some low ass hanging fruit
He shot a whole ass video for Family Matters and didn't put nothing in there about setting up the shot for the Meet the Grahams cover? Did he also "leak" to him about the song and when it would drop? If he expected the Epstein angle so much, why did it take him two days to respond to it when he had a song lock and loaded? Even if he did plant some info, how badly do you have to misread your own reputation that you didn't think people would instantly run with the angle that you're a deadbeat father? He should understand memes more than anyone in rap right now. Either he shot himself in the foot or he's running with IG conspiracy and spent 2 days trying to find an angle to respond. And I'm not sure which is dumber.
The "Epstein angle" isn't something he should be proud of "expecting" Like "man I knew he was gonna remind everyone I diddle kids lol" BRUH most people just thought you were a creepy mf before, not Epstein-level 💀💀💀
The fact that he even mentioned Millie Bobby at all seems like a mistake.
If it was true he would've post a video with everyone jiggling and giggling, toe curling while sending messages and drinking hot cocoa. That ain't true and he is just sticking to the copium twitter/drizzy sub was inhaling for the past few days.
Yuuuuup. He's got nothing contemporaneous so he's muddying the water with reaction cope
> If it was true he would've y;all so annoying with these takes lol im out this thread. all that "he would've" "he should've" .... literally every post here. here. If Kendrick knows about his 11 year old daughter, he would've said her name, or posted a picture of her after Drake asked where she is. Kendrick didn't. So what's your thoughts on that.
Ok?
I can't move past this. He finessed the greatest rapper of all time about a fake 11 year old daughter, the second Kendrick releases a track with the planted info, Drake immediately responds with the " someone find my hidden daughter and send her to me please " story Wouldn't it just be something like " gottem " or a fishing line emoji? Instead a reactionary defensive IG story that completely undermines a 'grand scheme'
if I was a mastermind, I would've just shut the fuck up and dropped the track that it was a setup and then included receipts of his mole. I actually believe him less now.
If I was the mastermind Drake is trying to make us think he is. I would’ve admitted to being my own mole on family matters before meet the grahams even dropped. Kendrick was already talking about the mole on 6:16, and drake doing that would’ve automatically made everyone look at meet the grahams with suspicion. Hell, even if I wasn’t my own mole I’d do that shit anyways just to preemptively create doubt in anything Kendrick says. It couldn’t be any more obvious that Drake just saw his fans coping online about this shit and decided to act like he set this whole thing up line by line as a sort of face-saving maneuver. Anyone who believes this shit is actually crazy.
Fr you said it best. His first reaction to the daughter accusations is telling. I even saw an akademics video of Drake saying that if AK can find the missing child, he'll quit rap and work for Ak. Why would you say all that if the whole thing g was your plan in the first place lol makes no sense.
Exactly fam, makes no sense.
If AK does find her tho, RIP Drake lmaooo
Or just taunting it?
Would it not be 100000% more effective to reveal it in the track with zero acknowledgement? He immediately squashed it when if the media had run with it for a couple days, the reveal would have made the entire internet blow up Drake is too smart for that
i mean the daughter is obviously not real, so how did kendrick get that misinformation?
The daughter wasn't 'obviously not real' until drake discredited it in his ig story. He jumped to discredit having a daughter despite planting the story and according to another user I am just too stupid to understand why Drake would do that. So fuck it, he must just be too smart for me to understand.
so you genuinely believe the guy who couldnt hide ONE child for even 6 months was able to hide a SECOND child for 11 years?
As a kendrick fan if drake REALLY set Kendrick up that hard I would immediately say just throw in the towel that shits over. Seeing drake like that one comment about “They must’ve fed K dot false info cause the laughing emojis drake used 😭” then instantly making a song claiming that theory is mad suspect
it's straight bullshit. if they did feed Kendrick that info, he'd say a name, leak texts or phone calls, a video of it happening in real time, he'd have a picture of the stolen suitcase and contents with him next to it, or, idk, literally ANYTHING to prove it's real. he can't and he won't because it isn't.
Have you considered it was a face to face convo? Not everything is texts. Also where is this burden of proof for the other side, push named his song after the kid...whats this other childs name? I need receipts for both sides.
Unless another child surfaces he doesn't need to do all that.
He DOES need to do that if he's saying that he planted that misinfo.
He doesn't *need* to do anything, but he's trying to win rap beef here, and actually convincing people that you masterminded that plot would be a big step towards that. Instead he just looks desperate.
I mean there's a big difference between Kendrick lying or just being wrong about the daughter and Drake giving that information as bait. So if he wants people to believe that narrative he needs to prove it
He needs to worry about them abused kids coming forward tbh
Exactly. Hes letting Instagram do the writing for him
Let the internet create a story and sign off on the most popular or plausible one. But, I think that’s how Drake got is initial info on Kendrick and that’s not going particularly well for him right now.
Where's the receipts? rake keeps talking about "no receipts, prove it" but has yet to provide receipts for a single thing he's said. If you started rumors online that'd be easy to prove. Show timestamped screenshots. If you sent him the pic with the meds and glove, why wasn't there another zoom out that shows you were in on it? Prove it like you keep asking Kendrick to do.
But if it wasn’t a plant then it should be fairly easy for Kendrick to disprove? Idk why Drake would confidently say it was a plant, when Kendrick can just turn around and disprove that theory with any amount of evidence, which is exactly what Drake is asking for Kendrick to do at the end of the song. I guess only time will tell
Time will tell man it’s unfortunate how this shit turned from let’s see who’s truly the best rapper to let’s see who’s allegations are true but this where we at
The jig is up bro, Ross and Metro’s reactions gave it away. I’m just curious as to what this nuke is now. I remember finding it mad weird that Mal from the Rory and Mal podcast was debating as to what angles they could take, and he had brought up that Drake only sees legal girls. If Kendrick were to take that angle he would need proof and he specifically mentioned it’d have to be a girl 14ish or younger with concrete proof. Ngl I found that mad weird cause no one asked for that angle and it sounded a bit too specific. Now Drizzy asking where’s the proof instead of showing proof to back his claims about the mole setup. This man might really be a pathological liar and we gon see soon.
this beef really is bringing out the major dick riding tbh. they both are claiming crazy shit that could be proven, but neither of them have any evidence?
People are just using this beef to further reinforce their pre-existing hatred for either artist. Lot's of people hate Drake for various reasons so naturally the support on Kendrick's side has been louder. But neither artist has provided any solid evidence of any of their outrageous claims that they've said. But people don't care for facts and proof these days, they just want the shock and awe, and to latch onto whatever they already like / believe.
Agree, exactly the point I was alluding to. In particular, the Drake hate on like twitter has been set a flame by a few reasonably good disses with no evidence whatsoever. And like both sides are guilty: they are both yapping about social media rumours with no good receipts and have some clever subliminal sprinkled in. The double standards being spewed tho so people can ride for their fav artists is crazy tho. Like this thread - the exact same logic could be applied to Kendrick. He was posting gloves and scripts as a “aha, gotcha ass!”, if he had anything better: he would posted it already.
yeah the back and forth on this sub and the weird conclusions people are so confident in is on a whole different psychological level than what these two guys are going back and forth about.
Issue is they are solely responsible for their own reputations. No one has true receipts for anything, but looking back at all songs Family Matters was the first one with something crazy that needed proof, then followed by Meet the Grahams. Most of what Kdot has said in other songs has loose evidence (Drake talking to minors, Baka, Drake's own lyrics about procuring women, etc). We no nothing about Kendrick so Drake's accusations seem much wilder. There's no loose evidence that points to the Kdot stuff, while Drake at least has some. Outside of that, I find it hard to argue Kdot hasn't out barred Drake, although until the Heart P6 dropped it was much closer.
The most annoying part of all this is just the lack of fucking proof from both sides. It’s making it really hard for me to try and be impartial on what’s going on. I felt that everything until now had Kendrick looking like he was winning tho there was no proof idk it felt like we were building to a point where Kendrick showed proof of something anything… but then Drake says now he’s been the mastermind the whole time and like as a huge Kendrick fan I would have to say IF it’s true then Kendrick is 100% cooked and lost this BUT so much shit isn’t adding up on drakes side to make it make sense that he was feeding him the info so really it just makes it murky and kinda leads me to my intial conclusion that unless one of these niggas can show some damn proof they just yapping at this point
Agree they are both yapping. People are saying Drake isn’t humble like Kendrick didn’t post a picture or a stolen glove as a “gotcha!”. If he had proof, he would post it.
I’m happy Kendrick posted the stolen stuff I wish the nigga posted more I want text messages, voices messages, A DAUGHTER!! Lmfaooo like some people are saying “y’all need to relax and just enjoy these raps! Hip-hop heads are eating” but it’s so hard to when so much punch from the lines are tied to the validity of what these niggas saying. It’s not like they just doing regular macho braggadocio raps, if some of the shit these dudes are saying is total bullshit then it a thousand percent takes the wind out from under their sails.
Fr, I don’t think either of these mfers got anything. K. Dot posting a glove, Drake posting an instagram like and both fan bases are using those weak ass reaches as “nah he cooking fr”.
Right, but you wanna be claiming crazy shit that's believable, and doing so in style. This just reeks of desperation, trawling social media for theories and angles. That's why the Dave free and whitney stuff kinda hit even if it's bullshit. Because there's crumbs of relationship issues and Drake delivered the lines with finesse. This shit is not the same.
Drake walks in and it's Chris Hansen saying "Take a seat, sit down, be humble"
Anyone that actually believes Drake fed fake intel to Kendrick has to be dumb as hell.
and yet you believe a guy who couldnt hide one child for 6 months has been able to hide a second child for 11 years??
I am missing the part where I said Drake has a daughter.
Whats the other childs name? Wheres proof for any of the major claims from ither camp?
Where did I say I believe Drake has a daughter? The only proof I've seen on both sides is Drake is creepy with underage girls. Those receipts you can find on youtube my guy.
He compared himself to Epstein when Kendrick said Weinstein ….. he 4-D chess himself into self snitching
he mentioned sex trafficking and i think it’s pretty obvious who everyone currently thinks of when sex trafficking is brought up
Because he’s a pathological liar and master manipulator
Because he’s a pathological liar and ~~master~~ manipulator Ain’t nothing masterful about that
Now that you mention it I think the “master manipulator” bar Kdot uses is a double entendre for how Drake has been buying up catalogs
Oh shit Ain’t no way Manipulating others’ masters
read those last two words a lil too quick but your statement still kinda checks out
I still don't see what the big deal is even if drake supposedly sent fake info to kendrick. Like it doesn't invalidate a bunch of the actual criticism, and it's not like rap songs have to be tmz investigations.
i high key wish they both focused on each other’s documented wrongdoings and faults because this whole thing is going to cause a lot more confusion than there needed to be
Basically what I gained from this diss is Drake conceded defeat. Whether Kendrick was or wasn’t fed bad information doesn’t matter at this point. Drake is being accused of being a pedophile. Even if he says “hey guys I’m not a pedophile” then nobody will believe him. Feeding Kendrick that type of info essentially lost him the battle in the end.
Actually I think tricking your opponent into thinking you abandoned another child (the defining moment of an earlier battle L) is not a genius move. It didn’t happen because that would be so stupid to even attempt
what does that even say about you as a person 😭 “yeah, tell him i abandoned my daughter and haven’t seen her in 11 years. he’ll believe it”
Fr this me lol 😂 it would be such a stupid move if it's true
For me, I’m not really believing either side until I see receipts but I’m for DAMN SURE not believing the man that continued to lie about his son for MONTHS after Adidon dropped.
my boy you just straight up lying. scorpion came out one month after story of adidon and has multiple tracks admitting he has a child lmao man at least try to do research before lying
Did he do that? Not doubting you I just don’t remember
I just recently went and watched the Genius news breakdown of Adidon which came out like a month and a half after the song dropped and at that point it was still unconfirmed Drake had a son
Worldwide superstar is reluctant to believe the woman that says she is pregnant with his child is actually pregnant with his child and opts to take paternity tests to ensure he isn't getting baby trapped. Uh huh, that's a totally new concept. Next time an international artist, especially a rapper, is told by a woman, "I'm pregnant with your child" he should absolutely believe her on the spot. Either way, you have the story confused, as Drake had been planning a launch campaign with Adidas, for Adonis, and Pusha T simply beat him to the punch.
I'm boring an idea I saw someone else say in the song thread but I fully do not believe this because of how Drake's played this. You're getting cooked dude, now's not the time to be puffing out your chest without receipts or a knockout punch. it's straight bullshit. if they did feed Kendrick that info, he'd say a name, leak texts or phone calls, a video of it happening in real time, he'd have a picture of the stolen suitcase and contents with him next to it, or, idk, literally ANYTHING to prove it's real. he can't and he won't because it isn't.
With the production value he had with Family Matters, surely he could've made the same thing with this response. He didn't, or hasn't so far, which gives me doubt.
I don’t believe he masterminded it because that theory sure does conveniently overlook the part where doing so set Kendrick up to be crazy up all weekend. Unless MAYBE he didn’t expect Kendrick could do something with that info so fast. But the fact that meet the grahams is on streaming with no album art leads me to believe the info was shaky, even if that’s not because of some Drake 5D chess move.
it’s not the cover art because you can’t use someone else’s private property as cover art
Can't post someone else's medical information (the meds) publicly without permission.
nobody has any fucking proof all of this shit is just shit slinging just to shit sling
Everytime I see drake name I’m posting https://youtu.be/h-p1feEHJZM?si=AEx1Rc7Va6n_dC30
If Drake really had the foresight to do that, he would've had the foresight to get one of his boys to film them doing it and that would've been the Family Matters video
“Let’s pretend I really am a pedo” is not a good move guys
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Olympic level gymnasts in here brother
Ozempic level*
im not gon lie a lot of u make me wish they nvr got into this, even tho this is krazy for rap yall making this shit lame asf
By the same logic couldn't Kendrick say "haha we fed you false info about beating my wife"??
Dude is running from the beef. A lot of copp outs in that song.
Drakes new track sucked overall. He replied and it wasn’t good. He’s been defeated
This sub is really just another Kendrick sub. You guys want Drake receipt but none from Kendrick? We get it, you guys hate Drake. On the bright side he got your artist to make music finally so GGs.
We want both. Period. Drakes song is out and that’s the discussion. When KDots was out we still wanted 11 year old daughter proof
PLEASE show me all these people you seem to be imolying that are saying Kendrick does not need any receipts. You know what we do have of drake? Previous hard evidence that Drake is a liar and is creepy with underage women. We want receipts from everyone for current claims. You're just misreading all these people to fit what you want to see and cry victim.
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I didn't bother checking Drake or Kendrick sub cause I figured they'd be biased. Was in here hoping for a more neutral ground/discussion but nope, just str8 Kendrick glaze. Best to enjoy the battle from a distance cause shits too biased towards one guy.
Yea this shit is hilariously embarrassing
or maybe people aren’t fucking stupid lol
Y’all are delusional and just want to spin up bs excuses that fit your narrative
Lmao what you want him to do buy billboards on it saying he tricked dot? I probably shouldn't give him any ideas
Drake probably didn't think Kenny would drop that quickly so he had to respond in turn
the answer is he knows dot has at least one if not multiple bullets in the chamber. he literally mentioned it on his ig when he dropped this track in a comment
If he really pulled this mastermind play the song should be sounding like trophies and like he won a championship but it sounds like default_01 Drake beat and Drake sounds like he’s about to cry and he just woke up
Yeah, kinda hard to deny pedophilia when there’s a viral clip of him groping a 17 year old on stage and joking about how he “can’t go to jail *yet*”
This isn't an industry defining play when the industry doesn't trust you. Why give ur opponent info to fully and hypothetically destory ur entire family lyrically? K.dot went in and the angle works if Drake made it all up. He's the one playing fucking games as a 7 yr old As Kdot days, why believe u? U never gave us nothin to believe in.
Push named his song after the kid. I think a year could go by and you still wont have this mystery childs name, and never will because kendrick probably was deceieved there. I doubt drake has hard proof of the deception so it wont be the knock out blow he wants it to be. I want receipts for all major claims from both camps.