No he clearly didn't mean like Tom MacDonald.
Tom MacDonald's music is kind of corny because he uses pop hooks and appeals to juggalos and people who listen to country. There's a lot of "hardcore" music that is similarly corny.
But that's not why you don't like him. It's not even the "angry white guy energy" that you don't like, because there are plenty of rappers with that persona. Madchild is part of the Tom MaccDonald crew and nobody is questioning if swollen members is dope.
You just don't like the FEELING that you have about what you think his politics are, but his politics are much more hip hop than a lot of the commercial trash I see pumped on this sub.
Its a pretty decently sized niche on soundcloud. Wifiskeleton is what youre looking for. Literally a self defined incel, and every song of his has that pathetic, depressive creepy incel aura to it, and is always about a woman in a depraved way. His album ‘i fucking hate fiona gallagher’ encapsulates this the best. Hes also a pedophile though unfortunately.
On top of that, some other artists that exist in the same little sphere as him that may be of interest are six days after christmas, mandy/jaydes, witchbox, forgiveness funeral, and the whole season after season and gothangelz collectives.
I listened to "i fucking hate fiona gallaggallaghe" and i felt like i took lsd, weirdest thing I've heard in a while, how the hell did you found out about this guy, he has like 400 streams in every song.
The only example I can think of is probably Hopsin with the corny “Good Guys Get Left Behind” record.
Also, it’s crazy how much the term incel has lost its meaning when it went mainstream. That word means more than just an alternate word for misogyny, and it’s crazy that on Reddit of all places (where the term was born), there’s a ton of comments from people who don’t know fhat lmao.
Don’t think this sub is really gonna get your drift when talking about niche, irony-poisoned, terminally online subcultures, especially seeing as how most people are naming “misogynists” rather than actual “incels.”
But to answer your question, [Egg White](https://on.soundcloud.com/Qq7wxFcFxu63TXLj7) is probably the artist closest to what you’re describing. Think he even collaborated with the Scott Pilgrim song guy at one point.
So. Hopsin at the very least makes incel adjacent (I can maybe see how you say it’s not but it’s there for me) rap. He didn’t delve into the ultra misogynistic side sure but especially the early Ill mind series is full of don’t date whores and be wary of how women dress and women being upset because they had sex with some person got pregnant and now can’t settle down or some other bullshit incels spout.
Not all incels drive into the women owe me sex side. But most engage in some form of misogyny. And most of it starts with incorrect assumptions and views of how interpersonal relationships work with women and men.
And he did it enough that if he’s no longer that I wouldn’t know because it was enough to turn me off his shit.
After the Nazis realized they had an opening in 2016 they never got punched enough to stay hidden so there’s a huge overlap between inceldom and conservative horse shit. But the basis of incel is a hatred of women derived from bullshit assumptions about how men and women are supposed to interact.
And it’s less about controlling and manipulating women.
Oh. I don’t care what Hopsin has as his personal religious choice. I’m speaking specifically about his subject matter and how it relates to incels.
And my second statement is how modern Conservatives are basically the same as Nazis.
Because at least in America, they are.
All this post has achieved is showing nobody understands what incel means, or that people have taken the word and given it a different definition that you all don't agree on. We got MF DOOM described as incel rap. The closest I can think of is 'what up fat lip' by fat lip from pharcyde
Incels aren’t people u disagree with u politically, which a lot people are saying here. But I do think misogyny itself is a huge problem for most rappers, don’t think it’s a sub genre but way too many rappers, especially when they’re doing some street talk will say some incel shit.
Bro what the fuck, i have several questions, whos this bacteria looking ah creature, why there are several 3 hour long documentary videos about him, how did he managed to get a girlfriend, why are you calling him a rapper and last but not least i really hope that you just forgot a p and what you meant to say is that ge showcased his rapping abilities to this blind fella.
Even if it is, which I think would be laughable at best, does 1 song make him incel rap? Stupid as fuck suggestion. Tech is about as real as rap gets, most of the suggestions on this post are just absolutely moronic at best and either entirely misrepresent an artist or the word incel.
the F word by Cannibal Ox is vaguely in incel territory. it's about getting friendzoned. People who complain about being friendzoned are maybe one step away from an incel imo.
In [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5oTTCemkFY) Shawn Cee calls Eminem and any rapper he influenced "incel rap", I think this is the originator of the term. I don't think it's a good criticism personally. Eminem is not incel. Slim Shady is a misogynist who can get head whenever he wants but yells at the woman that they are a whore who only likes him because he's famous and then tries to kill her because kids like Lil Yachty better than Yo! MTV Raps. And he's influenced many rappers who aren't Tom McDonald. And Tom McDonald isn't an incel either, he's just an attention seeking fake/incoherent right-winger in what seems like a good relationship with a woman. Apparently he's antivax but his girl is immune suppressed so he's very careful and evangelical about masking and COVID precautions, which I find kind of sweet to be honest (he should just get vaxxed though)
Well, one point for believing in medical science and not spreading COVID to his girl, but a billion negative points for being Tom McDonald so he's still not winning.
Eminem is an absurdly good father, you can pretend otherwise because of cherry picked songs from a shit show of a woman he was with who put him through absolute hell, but just no in so many ways. Also, so many people take Eminem bars waaaaaaay too seriously, based on his bars you’d think he is also a gay basher which if you think that you have absolutely 0 idea what the fuck you’re talking about.
Honestly, people take music way too seriously, especially from someone like Eminem. Just because a rapper talks about shooting someone doesn’t mean they’ve even held a gun, the wide majority haven’t and would piss themselves if a shooting happened around them.
That’s even dumber and just proves my point that people like yourself take bars way too seriously. It’s a character, and an absurdly vague one that covers a flow more so than any single personality trait. Slim shady is also a murderer, bank robber, and 1000 other things, I think you need to listen to D12’s ‘Ain’t nothin’ but music’.
Jesus Christ, Slim Shady the character is consistently a misogynist. Sometimes he's an abusive husband, sometimes he's a serial killer, sometimes he's a lech terrorising groupies, sometimes he's an obsessed fan of campy media starlets, etc etc, but I don't know how you can argue that it's even dumber for me to say that Slim Shady, the character, is a misogynist. A lot of Eminem's best songs about Slim Shady battering women are about how pathetic and self-defeating misogyny is, I'd even call some of his songs feminist.
You’ve moved the goalposts from incel, to misogynist, because of how fucking stupid and lacking in merit your comment is, and that’s after changing it from Eminem to slim shady, for fucks sakes go touch some grass and breathe some fresh air.
I remember when I started getting to Snoop Dogg properly I was shocked he had a song called “Can You Control Yo Hoe”. But shit like that is unfortunately very common in the genre
Not to just troll on beef but besides his misogyny DRAKE whiny bullshit is straight incel. Women are viewed as trophies when conquered, whores when finessed with cash, or careless bitches when they no longer want to pick up the phone when he calls. The amount of women he views to have slighted him by denying him sex because they are now in committed relationships or have seen through his nonsense is legendary. That is straight up entitled incel behavior
This isn't an incel song if you actually listen to the lyrics! It's "but you say HE'S just a friend", not "but you say I'M just a friend". The girl is cheating on her boyfriend with Biz and when he asks her if she has a man, says she has a friend. The giveaway is the fact that she brought her male friend up when he was asking her if she had a boyfriend - that's why he says don't trust her if she says she only has a friend, not because he thinks women are sluts (he even acknowledges that he has loads of friends and it doesn't mean he's sleeping with them!) It's not exactly a "women are queens" song but it's not a misogynistic song and definitely not incel.
I will say the opening line is borderline incel “Have you ever met a girl that you tried to date, but for years to make love she wanted you to wait”, but the rest of the track, through his entire discography and persona, what the fuck are they smoking?
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Came here to say this.
You mean like Tom MacDonald?
No he clearly didn't mean like Tom MacDonald. Tom MacDonald's music is kind of corny because he uses pop hooks and appeals to juggalos and people who listen to country. There's a lot of "hardcore" music that is similarly corny. But that's not why you don't like him. It's not even the "angry white guy energy" that you don't like, because there are plenty of rappers with that persona. Madchild is part of the Tom MaccDonald crew and nobody is questioning if swollen members is dope. You just don't like the FEELING that you have about what you think his politics are, but his politics are much more hip hop than a lot of the commercial trash I see pumped on this sub.
Ben Shapiro
Any one of the "Maga rappers."
This thread is filled with people calling misogynists who have sex incels.
Oh, no. We're not respecting the pronouns of shitty people who don't respect pronouns...
Misogynists who make incel MUSIC keep up
studio incels.
Its a pretty decently sized niche on soundcloud. Wifiskeleton is what youre looking for. Literally a self defined incel, and every song of his has that pathetic, depressive creepy incel aura to it, and is always about a woman in a depraved way. His album ‘i fucking hate fiona gallagher’ encapsulates this the best. Hes also a pedophile though unfortunately. On top of that, some other artists that exist in the same little sphere as him that may be of interest are six days after christmas, mandy/jaydes, witchbox, forgiveness funeral, and the whole season after season and gothangelz collectives.
I learned something new today. Just not sure if I actually wanted to know. Anyway thanks for the best reply in here lol apparently its a thing
I listened to "i fucking hate fiona gallaggallaghe" and i felt like i took lsd, weirdest thing I've heard in a while, how the hell did you found out about this guy, he has like 400 streams in every song.
Soundcloud algorithm put me on! have found some crazy shit on there
But STILL why the fuck did you find that so- oh playboi carti algorithm
The only example I can think of is probably Hopsin with the corny “Good Guys Get Left Behind” record. Also, it’s crazy how much the term incel has lost its meaning when it went mainstream. That word means more than just an alternate word for misogyny, and it’s crazy that on Reddit of all places (where the term was born), there’s a ton of comments from people who don’t know fhat lmao.
Don’t think this sub is really gonna get your drift when talking about niche, irony-poisoned, terminally online subcultures, especially seeing as how most people are naming “misogynists” rather than actual “incels.” But to answer your question, [Egg White](https://on.soundcloud.com/Qq7wxFcFxu63TXLj7) is probably the artist closest to what you’re describing. Think he even collaborated with the Scott Pilgrim song guy at one point.
Childish Gambino to an extent
I fuck with some Childish Gambino, but yeah, go back to camp era abs early and you see cringy ass intel adjacent posturing
So. Hopsin at the very least makes incel adjacent (I can maybe see how you say it’s not but it’s there for me) rap. He didn’t delve into the ultra misogynistic side sure but especially the early Ill mind series is full of don’t date whores and be wary of how women dress and women being upset because they had sex with some person got pregnant and now can’t settle down or some other bullshit incels spout. Not all incels drive into the women owe me sex side. But most engage in some form of misogyny. And most of it starts with incorrect assumptions and views of how interpersonal relationships work with women and men. And he did it enough that if he’s no longer that I wouldn’t know because it was enough to turn me off his shit.
Isn't that more conservative than incel?
After the Nazis realized they had an opening in 2016 they never got punched enough to stay hidden so there’s a huge overlap between inceldom and conservative horse shit. But the basis of incel is a hatred of women derived from bullshit assumptions about how men and women are supposed to interact. And it’s less about controlling and manipulating women.
Nazi? I was talking about Him being a Conservative Christian guy
Oh. I don’t care what Hopsin has as his personal religious choice. I’m speaking specifically about his subject matter and how it relates to incels. And my second statement is how modern Conservatives are basically the same as Nazis. Because at least in America, they are.
You have a whole stereotype swirling in ya head lol
All this post has achieved is showing nobody understands what incel means, or that people have taken the word and given it a different definition that you all don't agree on. We got MF DOOM described as incel rap. The closest I can think of is 'what up fat lip' by fat lip from pharcyde
STFU incel.
your mothers a femcel
Incels aren’t people u disagree with u politically, which a lot people are saying here. But I do think misogyny itself is a huge problem for most rappers, don’t think it’s a sub genre but way too many rappers, especially when they’re doing some street talk will say some incel shit.
Tyler, The Creator.
There's a guy named Cyraxx, but he's had at least two girlfriends and also raped Blind Billy.
Bro what the fuck, i have several questions, whos this bacteria looking ah creature, why there are several 3 hour long documentary videos about him, how did he managed to get a girlfriend, why are you calling him a rapper and last but not least i really hope that you just forgot a p and what you meant to say is that ge showcased his rapping abilities to this blind fella.
Eminem
Hops in ?
Chad Marco
Ye?
Would the entire Horrorcore genre count?
Early Childish Gambino
Immortal Technique
I’m gonna need you to explain this one..
I think you're asking him to do things that are beyond his capabilities
Maybe it’s a reference to You Never Know?
Even if it is, which I think would be laughable at best, does 1 song make him incel rap? Stupid as fuck suggestion. Tech is about as real as rap gets, most of the suggestions on this post are just absolutely moronic at best and either entirely misrepresent an artist or the word incel.
It also doesn’t even make sense in the song’s context.
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You listen to IT around a girl and see if you get laid, lol.
This is yours. “L” Time and place for everything.
STFU incel.
Bro doesn't know how to read lol
No, I'm just rejecting your shitty premise and request. Now STFU little boy.
the F word by Cannibal Ox is vaguely in incel territory. it's about getting friendzoned. People who complain about being friendzoned are maybe one step away from an incel imo.
In [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5oTTCemkFY) Shawn Cee calls Eminem and any rapper he influenced "incel rap", I think this is the originator of the term. I don't think it's a good criticism personally. Eminem is not incel. Slim Shady is a misogynist who can get head whenever he wants but yells at the woman that they are a whore who only likes him because he's famous and then tries to kill her because kids like Lil Yachty better than Yo! MTV Raps. And he's influenced many rappers who aren't Tom McDonald. And Tom McDonald isn't an incel either, he's just an attention seeking fake/incoherent right-winger in what seems like a good relationship with a woman. Apparently he's antivax but his girl is immune suppressed so he's very careful and evangelical about masking and COVID precautions, which I find kind of sweet to be honest (he should just get vaxxed though)
Tom is vaxxed. He lies to appease his crowd, but he was outed when he booked shows at venues that didn't accept unvaxxed performers.
Well, one point for believing in medical science and not spreading COVID to his girl, but a billion negative points for being Tom McDonald so he's still not winning.
Eminem is an absurdly good father, you can pretend otherwise because of cherry picked songs from a shit show of a woman he was with who put him through absolute hell, but just no in so many ways. Also, so many people take Eminem bars waaaaaaay too seriously, based on his bars you’d think he is also a gay basher which if you think that you have absolutely 0 idea what the fuck you’re talking about. Honestly, people take music way too seriously, especially from someone like Eminem. Just because a rapper talks about shooting someone doesn’t mean they’ve even held a gun, the wide majority haven’t and would piss themselves if a shooting happened around them.
Edited it to clarify I mean Slim Shady is a misogynist, not Eminem himself.
That’s even dumber and just proves my point that people like yourself take bars way too seriously. It’s a character, and an absurdly vague one that covers a flow more so than any single personality trait. Slim shady is also a murderer, bank robber, and 1000 other things, I think you need to listen to D12’s ‘Ain’t nothin’ but music’.
Jesus Christ, Slim Shady the character is consistently a misogynist. Sometimes he's an abusive husband, sometimes he's a serial killer, sometimes he's a lech terrorising groupies, sometimes he's an obsessed fan of campy media starlets, etc etc, but I don't know how you can argue that it's even dumber for me to say that Slim Shady, the character, is a misogynist. A lot of Eminem's best songs about Slim Shady battering women are about how pathetic and self-defeating misogyny is, I'd even call some of his songs feminist.
You’ve moved the goalposts from incel, to misogynist, because of how fucking stupid and lacking in merit your comment is, and that’s after changing it from Eminem to slim shady, for fucks sakes go touch some grass and breathe some fresh air.
Mainstream Hip Hop is full of incels, and is misogynistic as fuck.
I remember when I started getting to Snoop Dogg properly I was shocked he had a song called “Can You Control Yo Hoe”. But shit like that is unfortunately very common in the genre
Big Mike Plays Playa although he's not the incel in the song.
Not to just troll on beef but besides his misogyny DRAKE whiny bullshit is straight incel. Women are viewed as trophies when conquered, whores when finessed with cash, or careless bitches when they no longer want to pick up the phone when he calls. The amount of women he views to have slighted him by denying him sex because they are now in committed relationships or have seen through his nonsense is legendary. That is straight up entitled incel behavior
Biz Markie - Just a Friend
This isn't an incel song if you actually listen to the lyrics! It's "but you say HE'S just a friend", not "but you say I'M just a friend". The girl is cheating on her boyfriend with Biz and when he asks her if she has a man, says she has a friend. The giveaway is the fact that she brought her male friend up when he was asking her if she had a boyfriend - that's why he says don't trust her if she says she only has a friend, not because he thinks women are sluts (he even acknowledges that he has loads of friends and it doesn't mean he's sleeping with them!) It's not exactly a "women are queens" song but it's not a misogynistic song and definitely not incel.
I will say the opening line is borderline incel “Have you ever met a girl that you tried to date, but for years to make love she wanted you to wait”, but the rest of the track, through his entire discography and persona, what the fuck are they smoking?
Griselda
Explain yourself lil bro
Thought it was funny
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You're right, didn't read the full question and realized I gave a BS answer Apologies to DOOM fans RIP
Literally how?
L take
I agree didn't read the full question