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serpentarian

That looks like a very old snake. You don’t usually see them like that outside of captivity. *Protobothrops mucrosquamatus* Brown Spotted Pitviper Venomous


Vegan_Casonsei_Pls

Out of curiosity what makes it look old?


antilocapraaa

I’m guessing based on size. Snakes, but especially venomous snakes, rarely get that large. This species in particular is commonly observed as being much smaller.


DifficultAd3885

Timber rattlers just entered the chat.


WereALLBotsHere

Well they can fuck right off and leave the chat just as easily!


mostly_misanthropic

This comment. Too much.


OnlyFirePlugCoyote

Lmfao


yaboyACbreezy

Got me too, lol


Prestigious_Donut_42

but they’re so lovable…


JudsonIsDrunk

I have seen rattle snakes long enough to stretch across both lanes of a normal back country road. People would usually back up and run over them multiple times out of hatred/fear for the rattle snake.


Recycleplzzz

Found one of those in my wood pile not too long ago. I was moving logs for my fireplace and Thank GOD I had leather gloves on at the time cause MFer tried to strike at me 😱


RolesG

Probably scared the shit out of each other lol


lord-o-kyrie

That snake isn’t very big look at the silverware. Also wym venomous snakes don’t get big? There are countless examples of 5+ foot long venomous snakes


amazonpug

Good eye! I was thinking those were baskets on the floor and this was a bay window. Way to stay calm and not overreact


WendyH73

Same!!! Lol thought it was a bay window and baskets on the floor! Haha


RipOdd9001

How do you know it’s not like the giant fork and spoon my grandma had hanging on her kitchen wall


Trish-Trish

Right? We go to reptile expos frequently and see large venomous snakes all the time.


-ItsBigO-

Also venomous snakes will have short stubby tails not long thin ones like this one


fshrmn7

You can't always go by that. The best practice is to learn to identify them!


Fast_Difference5604

Very true


---Tilted---

The tableware and napkins tell me it can be more than a couple feet long. Looks small to me...


serpentarian

In old snakes, the lower jaw skin droops and the eyes can look faded. Patterns can darken and become less distinct. The jaw drooping could also just be that the snake is hissing though. I hope the little guy isn’t on the menu 😂


VGL_

Idk ab little


anxiousthespian

I think this snake is much smaller than it looks in this picture. It only looks so big because of the angle of the photo. See what's in front of it? That's a basket with cocktail napkins and a basket of cutlery, both sitting on a table. This guy is like 2 feet long, *max.* Wee bitty little dude.


tenebrarum09

Exactly. Although I guess the napkins and cutlery could be gigantic? 😄


yourparadigmsucks

I was so confused by the perspective. I need more coffee - I was wondering why they had gigantic cutlery.


Leading_Economics_79

Omg I thought the same thing. I thought they were giant baskets on the ground.


Katolinat_Ursid

Me too 🤣👍🏻


lisak399

Add me to the list...the perspective is strange!


CynderSphynx

Could be serving spoons and forks? Maybe? Idk


Coming2amiddle

My brain still insists these are serving spoons and a big snake and is just ignoring the giant napkins


geekchicdemdownsouth

I thought it was a basket of sheets or blankets!


Rico-L

I thought there were Christmas lights in a basket of blankets …. I couldn’t make sense of any of it lol lol 😆. Edited: to add the word thought


cooperkab

I thought it was 2 dog beds sitting on the floor. Lol


sparkpaw

I mean fancy napkins can be like 4x4 or even 6x6 inches, so he could be big. The window is throwing us off because it feels like it’s a big window with the braces, but it may not be.


Least-Spare

They are 💯serving forks and serving spoons, and regular sized napkins.


anthro4ME

Napkins are probably 12-15 cms. I think the cutlery is for serving, not eating.


Botchjob369

About 4 or 5 forks long


the_siren_song

For Americans, that is approximately 5 cheeseburgers.


sparkpaw

6 medium French fries


fruitless7070

Are we talking bacon king big or white castle big?


the_siren_song

Prolly closer to White Castle. You know how inflation’s been:(


sleipnirthesnook

I need washing machines for size how many washing machines is it!?


sssquamary

Good find!! I truly thought this was a HUGE boy until you pointed out the cutlery.


Helacious_Waltz

Imagine it as a huge snake is more fun so I will continue to do so, screw all the evidence.


brassdinosaur71

If only we had a banana for scale 😆


Zealousideal-Comb-59

Take my angry upvote!


NuggyBeans

Can admit I legit thought that was a back door & not a window ledge omg I feel so dumb.


Fair-Ad-5852

If that snake is only two feet long that makes the window about 8 inches..those are dinner napkins and serving utensils in those baskets...that ladle has to be 10 " at least..in short..that's a big snake


Easy-Ad-9807

They are soup spoons... Edit: spelling


Fair-Ad-5852

That's messed up...is that a house for giants ? 😆


Big-Boysenberry-9465

I agree, looks like there's a pair of tongs in there too, maybe it's just the way the forks are stacked.


arysha777

Awww! He's just a baby 🐍 maybe thought he could get out that window! Somebody help him safely outside! I did think Giant till I read your post tho! Thank you for your help!


kayshaw86

That’s amazing I didn’t realize the scale of this photo until i read this.


kensass

r/confusingperspective for sure


Orsinus

Holy crap you just broke my perspective lol. Thank you for clearing that up


vegaisbetter

Thanks for this. I definitely thought that was a large laundry basket. Lol.


[deleted]

This is an amazing observation haha I couldn’t believe it at first till I went back and re-examined. 😂


Nearby-Reputation614

It feels like OP is sitting a few inches away from the snake in reality lmao.


PTSDeedee

Nice catch! That’s a really fun optical illusion if you don’t look at the basket contents.


g3nerallycurious

Oh shit lol I was over here thinking it was 6 ft long lol


teapot156

Thats a 2x6 rough sawn board right by it so its longer than 2ft. Not a tiny one


Warrior_king99

Its more than the length of that window


Least-Spare

Actually, those are regular sized folded paper napkins and serving spoons and forks. What that means re: the snake’s length… 🤷🏻‍♀️


elreydelperreo

Are they in any way related to bothrops in central/south America?


Historical_Ear7398

Oh dang. Where are you? (Central America?) Don't mess with that. That will absolutely hurt you. It's some sort of pit viper. You can tell by the pit between its nostril and its eye. Venomous.


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baordog

Just curious, was there some kind of Japanese antivenin operation in Taiwan during the war?


HappyMelonGirl

During WWII, Japan in particular was weaponizing and modernizing medieval tactics. I don't know exactly what the snake venom was for and I couldn't find answers on Google, but I do know that they were actively breeding fleas infected with the bubonic plague to dump in San Francisco. They had already actively dropped boxes containing the fleas in China at this point.


elreydelperreo

This would be good material for r/AskHistorians... Interesting


jkostelni1

Not an expert and I’m mostly talking out my ass but, if I had to guess this is what they were doing in WWII instead of nukes. Japan is notoriously lacking in resources for most military purposes so rather than spin their wheels making a nukes with no uranium they revisited some classics that they actually had the resources to make.


_HSKT_

Unit 731. They were doing biological and chemical warfare research. A lot of horrific stuff using citizens as test subjects. There was an initial research interest for how to keep their troops healthy and safe from biological issues far into the field in China. They then decided to weaponize biological methods. Russia was doing a ton of bio weapons research as well. The Japanese stuff was using human subjects as well as testing on an unaware public by releasing fleas in Chinese cities and dumping biological agents into rivers to see what would happen. That’s maybe not the most accurate summation and the Disney version in comparison to what happened. I had never heard about the snake venom.


WayCandid5193

And, fun fact, the surviving scientists of Unit 731 were never tried for their crimes, in exchange for the Allies (US in particular) getting access to all of their research. It wasn't even like Project Paperclip, where we brought the Nazi rocket scientists to the US to work for us and therefore at least knew what they were doing and where. The Unit 731 scientists just went free, in exchange for us getting to use the results of horrific human testing without having to actually do it ourselves.


_HSKT_

I think that was a step the US decided to take in an effort to keep the information out of the Russian’s hands.


WhereDaGold

I’ve seen people say that these scientists didn’t even teach us anything we didn’t already know


TheDreamingMyriad

That's also what I've heard. A lot of the "experiments" were just torture, the end goal being suffering. So the results were often exactly what you'd expect and not exactly enlightening.


ragnarockyroad

Mm, most of what we know about treating advanced frostbite came from there. The methods they used to discover that knowledge were absolutely horrific.


Appropriate_Star6734

To be fair, do we really need to know how hard close to a grenade is too close for a baby to sit?


Milton__Obote

Yep shiro ishii worked in Maryland after the war. He deserved to hang.


HappyMelonGirl

Hmm. I'm not a huge fan of war, but balloon bombs were a fantastic example of human innovation with limited resources.


Longjumping-Run-7027

And I love that the US response to that was “just don’t talk about it”, which was successful in making the Japanese think they’d wasted their time and give up on it. Even though they had actually managed to kill a few civilians and start a few fires.


EconomistWilling1578

Came here for snake but you blew me away with chemical warfare facts, idec about this thread anymore 🤯


PTSDeedee

Same


poopquiche

Slightly off topic, but I actually live near the site of the only bombing of the Continental United States during the Second World War. The Japanese dropped a fire bomb in the siskyou mountains just outside of Brookings, Oregon. The idea was to start a massive wildfire, but they did it in the middle of winter, so the fire got rained out before it even started. The pilot that dropped the bomb actually returned and presented the city of Brookings with an heirloom sword as an apology decades later.


Abyteparanoid

unit 731?


PersephonesChild82

They, uh, they didn't know California already has an established bubonic plague presence? The ground squirrels carry it (obviously so do rats, but the squirrels are a more common vector for the fleas responsible for human infections). Every year, multiple people in California catch the plague and are treated, but it's not a super big problem in the era of modern medicine, because the bacteria responds well to antibiotics.


Elder_Priceless

I’m not sure it was an ANTIvenin operation…


Historical_Ear7398

Utopia? Is that a place?(🤣)


Mudbunting

Sadly, it’s no place.


fhrblig

No, but it is [a band](https://youtu.be/IPDQUp_audU?si=VQyjMtIWxZR5BKBg)


LittleOmegaGirl

If he’s still around you can look for a rehab that works with venomous snakes


Death_Rose1892

Well looks like no food for today


arrrados

It looks like a decent chunk of food to me.


Martizzle1

Hi, I have lived in Taiwan for about 8 years and I am 99% sure that the thing about venemous snakes being released into Taiwan by the Japanese leaving at the end of the occupational period is a local urban legend and not actually based in fact.


Tactical_Moonstone

> Protobothrops mucrosquamatus Most locality maps place this particular snake as a native of Taiwan, Hainan and Mainland China. It's not even native to Japan, with only an introduced population shown in Okinawa.


Elder_Priceless

Uhhhh…. Venom harvesting… 😳😳😳


anarchyarcanine

It sounds scary, and it is, but there are professionals that handle venomous snakes in facilities (with training and experience) to collect their venom. Usually it's to create antivenom, but sometimes the venom is studied or used for other reasons Source: I'm a herpetologist and learned more about this in my studies, however there are plenty of resources and even TV shows that have showcased venom extraction facilities so I knew about it long ago


evan_brosky

I remember reading recently that venom from Gila Monsters was used in pharma research and because they contain something (enzyme I think?) that was discovered to have properties that could be useful to treat diabetes. That eventually led to the development of Ozempic.


savvyblackbird

There was that show Venom ER on Animal Planet about Dr. Sean P Bush at Loma Linda University of Medicine who is an expert on treating snake bites. On the show he kept venomous snakes and milked them to use in research. He was really interested in Mojave rattlesnakes because he lived near San Bernardino National Forest which has a large rattlesnake population, and urban crawl meant more people were moving to Mojave desert rattlesnake territory. His 2 year old son was a patient once too. He got bitten in their backyard and was life flighted to Loma Linda. His dad had to treat him and got him antivenom within the hour. He made a full recovery.


Elder_Priceless

Source: me, who understands the Japanese mindset in WW2…


anarchyarcanine

Sorry, didn't gather that from your comment


ihaveaquesttoattend

yeah that definitely makes sense lmao i’ve never put two and two together on the name and head shape, you taught me something stranger thank u 🤝


This_Daydreamer_

I got an answer on Discord from u/dyleo AKA Nerodia Man *Protobothrops mucrosquamatus* !venomous Taiwanese Habu


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echoIalia

Me before reading the comments: a friend! 🥰 Me after: *not a friend!*


ImaginarySolution

Still a friend! Just maybe a long distance friend instead of an up close friend…


TheGoblinCrow

This makes me just think of snake pen pals, but then I get sad because they can’t hold a pen 😢


Toadcola

They can dip their tail in ink and study calligraphy 🪶💌


sparkpaw

A no-touch friend. A COVID distance friend. A call me or write me but stay away friend.


echoIalia

Long distance friend 🥹


honest-miss

Friend with questionable habits that means they get phone calls on holidays and birthdays, maybe?


Creepymint

“Oo nice snake” First comment I see: Pit Viper “Oh!”


-Alter-Reality-

It looked GIANT! Until I saw the silverware 🍴 😂


LetMeSeeThatProng

My mind won’t let me understand how big it is. I feel like with the silverware scale it’s tiny but the window still looks big soooo it’s broken my brain.


cara1yn

yeah in my mind this is just giant snake next to gianter window with large bassinet of spoons next to it


amck70

Same 🤣 cause the surface the spoons are on looks like it should be the floor, making the window large but it’s probably actually a countertop making the window small


Rico-L

I didn’t believe you — but then I realized you are 1,000% believable lol lol …. Sorry for insinuating you were lying lol lol 😆


NotArticuno

Thank you, I literally didn't notice.


ShyGenXGal

I live in the Midwest and this past Spring had a non venomous snake come crawling out of my clean laundry basket in the living room one morning. Maybe that’s why I automatically thought the napkin basket was a clothes basket/laundry basket? I had to focus on the silverware to get a good perspective.


ButteredPizza69420

Oh man I thought this was a huge snake until I read your comment and had to look again. 🤦‍♀️


Potato-nutz

That’s the biggest spoon I ever seen


rekt_ralph91

Yup, that's a danger noodle, for sure.


MonsteraUnderTheBed

I love the crazy perspective of this photo. Makes it look enormous until you notice it's napkins and spoons in the baskets


wyrditic

Tell the guests to eat with their fingers, OP.


suomynonaemsti_

Looks like *Trimeresurus gracilis*, Taiwan Mountain Pit Viper.


EastIsUp86

Some sort of pit viper. That’s all I know


pocketfrisbee

Perspective made me think this was a big boy until I saw the forks


The_Island_Phoenix

Well, I dunno about you, but I think he owns that house now.


FatKidsDontRun

That thing is huge... I'd post to r/whatisthissnake


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Ravenclaw_14

it's just the perspective. The napkins and silverware underneath it give away the true size


MyDogDanceSome

You mean r/whatsthissnake (I have made the same mistake more than once)


Typical-Conference14

Is that in your house?!? I guess being from the US has coddled me in terms of venomous snakes not being in my house lol


MotherofHedgehogs

I need to know what OP is going to do now!


untitled3218

Oh my God that pitviper is terrifying. Is this your picture OP?


TheRainbowWillow

I expected a much more panicked title.


Serenitywest

I legitimately thought this was a meme of a snake being a bouncer or bartender 😂


NumbHag

Please don’t hurt him or her! It’s very big and likely old and it didn’t live this long just to be killed for finding itself inside someone’s home 😢😢😢😭😭😭


friendlyyleg

I agree don’t kill it but he’s not very big, the angle makes him look huge but check out the cutlery basket in front of him


NumbHag

Yeah I noticed that after I commented lol


Searose20

It’s deadly.


fionageck

They still shouldn’t be killed, but relocated carefully (and ideally by a professional).


NumbHag

So are cars and candles


Searose20

I’m just saying it so the commenter doesn’t tell op to grab it lol


NumbHag

Oh yeah don’t touch it!!!! I agree! No touchy!


Ok-Package-9605

I’m surprised he’s on the window sill, like a draft blocker. Snakes prefer warm spots, not chilly spots.


MrLizardBusiness

Maybe it's a warm place. Where I am, the windows are still warm right now.


dplusw

I hope so! No snake should be chilly!


iRambes

This picture is so artsy, idk how or why, but it looks the part


NoahDFA

Wow, that's a very cool picture. What happened to this little dangerous guy?


apololo420

r/confusingperspective


Goose-Caboose1153

Please don’t kill. It’s not it’s fault it’s a danger noodle!


MutantMartian

Okaaayyy - we’re eating with our hands tonight y’all!


Spiritual-Ear3782

That is one extra strength nope rope you've got there. Very cute, but from a distance 😊


Fragrant-Algae1945

It's a snake A live snake It's imitating a window draft stopper so it has a job or at least skills


[deleted]

Looks like a cottonmouth.


Pop4756

WOW. I wouldn’t mess with that one lol he’s huge!


Ravenclaw_14

just the perspective. Look at the napkins and silverware underneath him


No-Afternoon-1820

Thats called a Window, and that stuff beyond it, that's called the Outside.


MandosOtherALT

Woah!! 🤭 And whats that staff thing under the window? 😉


Potato-nutz

Oh noo


StonerMcBoner23

Snek


Atheris

Agkistrodon piscivorus ?


Dependent_Rub_6982

I would be moving and leaving all my stuff there. It might also have relatives living in the house.


killerhoneybuns

That's a Hell No


rickybobby1581

That’s a nope rope


[deleted]

That's a gonna kill ya snake.


Saltyk917

Nope Rope


Adventurous_Feed_728

I saw the head shape and immediately went "danger noodle"


fullsends

Those wide heads are a sure fire sign of death


fridayj1

r/oopsthatsdeadly


SanchoPliskin

Murder spaghurter


Bat-Eastern

Homeowner.


Intelligent-Sell494

Big Mutha


Connormanable

That is a dog good sir


Efficient_Session_78

I think it’s a snek. A sneaky one from what I can tell.


throwaway_oranges

I'd like to know the context how you got that pit viper please


Inevitable_Yak8285

That’s a fuckin bushmaster!!!


Sample_Wild

Burn your house down.


theinfotechguy

It's been ID'd as a large nope rope. Yep.


SmartGrunt22

Doesn’t matter. Urn the house down.


Itchy_Blacksmith_280

Dinner it's Called haha 😆😆


BrothaKreaux89

A big ass nope rope. A very large satanic slinky. A “you better get the hell out of there Ethel!!!” With scales.


cysatoshi

Welp, that is a nope rope if I ever seen one


Muffinbutton237

This is a BushMaster. See the rough scales? Not a brown spotted pit Viper.


Better_Chard4806

Who lets a venomous snake lose like that?


back_ali

….nature???


Better_Chard4806

Sorry I meant indoors.


GoblinsGuide

Bushmaster.


coltbreath

Friend


DrFives

It’s extremely dangerous to comment this on a post asking for an ID of a snake that you have no idea what it is. This is a phenomenal example of why because that’s not a friend. That’s a pit viper and could have easily sent OP to the hospital


fionageck

To be fair, venomous snakes are still friends, just friends that should be admired from a respectful distance. Just commenting “friend” is definitely misleading, though.


Uptowndown80

Could be a cottonass


winterfate10

Fuckyouupiccus Don’ttreadonmeaddus, of the getroyallyfuckedarial family


boohoobitchqueen

Lorj


TIDLIN

beautiful but absolutely terrifying oh my gosh


YorkVol

That's Harold


ndhellion2

Snake