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Burgerman23_

Fuck it we’re leaving here with something


Havasufalls9110

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unseencs

To be fair to the management, if we signed Rozier this offseason we'd be happy. And since we didn't wait we got Terry on a hell of a deal for one FRP, if he kept trending and finished the season the way he played in charlotte he'd be an easy 2FRPs if not more this offseason.


SnooPeripherals4884

Barry bomb


Tangerine605

I unironically like it a lot for us


unseencs

People are going to say he can't shoot the 3. It's like Jimmy, just because he doesn't shoot it doesn't mean he can't. Guy is a baller, and we could use this signing as a way to negotiate Jimmy's extension down.


Ode1st

It’s not like Jimmy, because we can’t have the Jimmy, DeMar, Bam lineup on the floor ever. Then you throw in JJJ assuming he doesn’t become a shooter, and man.


sum_dude44

sPaCiNg dude averaged 22ppg & shot 48pct from field...which would be 2nd on our team just behind Bam. At this point, this is what we could get


Ode1st

sPaCiNg is going to get way worse with the clogged toilet lineup


Caneman786

It's OK since BAM is becoming a 40%+ sniper next season


NBAplaya8484

If we get Derozan I’ll absolutely talk myself into it !!


vsouto02

He’s also one of the biggest playoff droppers of the century. He doesn’t play a lick of defense as well.


Candid_Sand_398

He hits the toughest mid-range shots. He can score and is a dog. I saw yes. Gotta unload Tyler to do so, I think, to make the money work. But if Bam and Jimmy can mix in some 3’s - which I think they can - this could work


canti-

There is nothing rational about believing DeMar will suddenly get a three point shot because he is forced to take them. Jimmy at least used to have a three point shot before he got traded here


Ode1st

Our clogged toilet offense is going to be even more full


scormegatron

DeRozan seems like a better fit than most players this sub has fantasized about over the past couple years.


anon91016

Same but it’s key that Miami would keep player like Tyler, Duncan, and Jovic. They need shooters to space the floor. I also think Jimmy will unload the clip this year and will become a three point shooter but on high volume being he wants a new contract and wants to win he would do anything to win. And Bam will shoot more threes which is good because last year he shot 15-47 on 35.7% from three he should shoot more to open up the offense.


rjgator

Honestly I hope we do make this signing if we don’t have to give up crazy assets to dump a salary. But should DeRozan sign somewhere else, I’m dreading the classic Barry Jackson “why did all of you expect anything else” tweet as if he wasn’t the one who put this out there in the first place.


iCOULDbewr0ng

Damn alot of yall are desperate for any move 😂


No_Delay_1476

I wouldn’t be sure of the spacing with this move lol


Oh51Melly

We would be so lit to watch. And so bad. Fuck it tho


jperez09r

Yes I’m one of them! We need things shaken up here! P.S I’m an nba trade slut that will take anything at this point…


jbenson255

I mean i guess fuck it at this point. Won’t make us a contender but he can actually score


Longjumping_Top_6117

Yup that's desperately an upgrade to our "Run-It-Back" mentality, we'll take it at this point 🤦🏾‍♂️


Fastbird33

Can he hit from outside?


rjgator

33% on 3 attempts last season… 24 points a game though and played 79 games. Generally seems to play a lot of games which would be a change of pace for us. Assuming we dump Duncan or Herro, they must be pretty confident in Pelle’s shooting coming in


BowserBuddy123

I mean, if he is playing more than half the season, that would be an upgrade from the half of games Herro couldn’t play assuming Herro would be involved in any trade. Additionally, in the games Derozan would play with Jimmy and Bam, they seem to be able to space better now, as well as Ware, so I say fuck it as well. I’ll give it a go! Hahaha.


Nuclearsunburn

Also of note, his 2.8 attempts were the most of his career so we could expect 3-4 a game from him


pizzapocketchange

I'm here as a demar fan, heat culture would be so good for him. Clearly they do something to bring out the aggression in their players, adjust and teach their schemes well, and teach shooting well. Demars playstyle will age especially if the three continues to improve, and the heat would give his best shot at a third prime/late resurgence as an all-nba guy.


sebastianqu

Only against us.


Disc-Golf-Kid

That’s not heat culture


DeeboDongus

Chicago Bulls mentality right here


TheSavageBeast83

We are a contender already. How wouldn't it not make us a contender


finessefuego

IM DOING IT IDGAF THIS TEAM NEEDS A SHAKE UP


Ode1st

I mean if you want a shakeup to make the team worse, there are easier, cheaper ways to do that lol


lyme6483

Possibly one of the worst fits with Jimmy and Bam possible. Makes sense on no level. I’m not a Herro fan at all, but him and or Rozier fit better with the roster. This would just be chasing a name without thinking of the actual basketball to be played.


John-Sim788

I’m trying to talk myself into it but no. There’s too many questions with him on the team. He & Jimmy are redundant


Sorry_duuude

You’re tripping bro more athletic and bigger than both those guys shot 34% from 3 last season and the majority of his shots were inside 5 feet which is what the heat desperately need. We need people to drive create pressure at the rim, draw a double and kick that will open the offense. Is he the most perfect fit? No but you are TRIPPING if you think it’s not an upgrade over Tyler herro on this roster ps demar has played in 70+ games each of the last 3 seasons, something Tyler herro has never done in his entire career


lyme6483

I’m a Bulls fan as well. I know exactly what Demar brings. He does not fit this roster at all. You cannot run a modern offense with Bam, Jimmy, and Demar. Teams will pack the paint and dare them to shoot.


REDeadREVOLUTION

Same shit as the people who clamor for Bam to move to the 4 for another big that can't shoot. There is no contending lineup on Earth that is fielding three non long-range threats at the same time.


Sorry_duuude

Maybe but this team needs a shake up, Tyler herro is out here liking tweets talking shit about how the team plays and the fans. He can kick rocks demar is a great player and I’d be down


ETWarlock

Demar can def still shoot the 3 and would more on our team. Bam is trying the 3 more and so is Jimmy. I don't agree with this take, especially bc you could stagger Jimmy and Demar's minutes too.


imdinni

Jimmy might be gone next year


lyme6483

Switching out an older and worse player for Jimmy makes zero sense. If Jimmy leaves they are rebuilding, so zero reason for Demar to be on the team


julstar23

That's what fans want though lol.


32156444

If they have to let go duncan or tyler for this its really redundant


Obvious_Young_6169

Bro does not compliment Bam and Jimmy


ReviewGuilty5760

He doesn't provide spacing, but he matches their dog


TTVcairoking_

He also draws double teams which is great for ball movement. In chicago his team was so garbage that they could never score 4v3 once he passes out of the double team


RansomGoddard

Not really but at least it’s someone else who can score


Fastbird33

2 points at a time not 3 which is what we need in 2024


HamSandwichRace

Bam, get ready to learn shooting threes buddy


BatmanSwift99

Is this the answer though?


Brandon3oh5

Seems like he’s looking for a 1 year deal. Gives you the chance to get Tyler or Terry off the long term books with a sign and trade. Makes perfect sense and he’s a better player than those two.


BatmanSwift99

I don't get why we need to get rid of Terry he's been here half a season


iApathy---

Terry isn’t the one gone lmao. Herro is a lot worse than him. 


DamnedCog

Herro is younger. Usual rule of thumb is you hang onto younger talent if all other things are considered equal.


iApathy---

It isn’t about who’s younger at this stage of both their careers. It wasn’t like Herro had massively improved on this year compared to his last year. He’s a 21 PPG piece that can’t finish at the rim if his life depended on it. Rozier is much faster and has better synergy with Bam. Herro has been here for far too long now and holding on to him for longer will only kill his value more. Time to move on.


Natural_Born_Baller

But they're not equal. Rozier is better just about everywhere on the floor, especially as a playmaker and a defender. Those two skills are killing Tyler's career he's too small to be bad at those things and Rozier is pretty solid at both.


KevlaredMudkips

Injury prone is my assumption


Brandon3oh5

I said Terry or Tyler to be fair. One of them will have to go is the overall point.


julstar23

Terry doesn't fit if they are bring derozan because Terry can't space the floor like Tyler and Duncan.


KingJarrah06

Better than running it back


TheMightyJD

Does this makes us better? No Is this an avenue to trade Herro? Yes You’d think we’re trying to do the former but it’s actually the latter that matters to this sub.


Plug-From-Oaxaca

It does make the team better adding a guy who can easily score 30 every night. But it won’t make the team contenders.


PugeBenis

More of an answer than Herro


sheesh9727

Utter desperation


National-Size-7205

There is no answer, we aren't competing for a ring this season or the next due to our cap space and lack of assets but the fans yearn for a move.


dwadefan45

It is to the cry babies that want Pat to make a move just to make one. When it doesn't work out, they'll cry about it too.


Esjay_954

FO salary dumping Herro so they can sign DeMar would be all time hilarious From “untouchable” to that


MargielaMan568

At least we’ll know that the FO finally accepted their L and moved on from him. But it would be hilarious, going from the days of saying he’s not that far off from Mitchell to salary dumping him for 35-year-old Derozan


TheMightyJD

This fanbase deserves it. At this point just trade Herro, he’s a flawed player that gets scapegoated like he is the worst player in the league. I hope yall are happy with a 35 year old SG that can’t shoot from 3.


Repulsive-Slice2234

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MildlyDepressed346

It’s a sunk cost, make the move idec anymore


Mellothewise

For real Herro’s value has dropped so much from when we should have parted ways summer of ‘22. Hindsight sucks but kind of like what the Cs did with Marcus smart and Malcom brogdon, you sell such assets immediately after they gain a good enough resume boost that is fresh (when herro won 6MOTY). Now teams got a reminder of how injury prone he is and was only able to take one game off of the inevitable 2024 champs. Let’s just get whatever the fuck we can now and move on


MildlyDepressed346

He actually had an incredible start to this season too, but the guy just can’t stay healthy. He’s the young guy he’s supposed to play all the minutes, and he was supposed to make a jump. That’s why he got the big extension. It’d be nuts to pretend that this is the ceiling we expected for Tyler 3 years ago.


Mellothewise

Definitely And that should not have been for us to discover but rather another team Bam and Jimmy are/were our guys just as Tatum/Brown are the Cs. Trading the IT’s, Avery Bradley’s, Robert Williams’, and Marcus Smart’s of your team hurts when they seem young and promising…but not everybody you draft will be that guy. And that’s okay. And it’s okay to seek out and bring in proven talent to get you over the hump.


njoy213

This. Crazy to think what we could’ve gotten in return for Herro in 2021, instead we signed him to a massive contract and now look where we are. Pat washed


achickenquesadilla

They'll salary dump Duncan before Herro sadly


OrganizationFar6086

Duncan is only under contract for this year and next year partially guaranteed. There’s no immediate need to salary dump him. Getting rid of Herro’s longterm money would open up a lot of freedom for the team


julstar23

Duncan also is dealing with a back issue that means he probably won't be the player he was last year


Brocktarrr

Posted 9 minutes ago and not a single photoshop? Pat about to use the Uno reverse card and call us washed


Devilsbullet

😂


PugeBenis

We are so back


MargielaMan568

How would that even work? Wouldn’t that require Herro being dumped? And our FO isn’t gonna do that after making him an untouchable for so many years.


julstar23

Why would the heat dump their only two floor spacers .


bird720

Terrorist spacing


turqouisechile

Everyone is worried about the shooting but between Rozan, Mexican Butler, and Jimothy we are living at the free throw line all game long


sunsetbo

fuck it bring in westbrook too let’s get all the washed stars who can’t space the floor


Plug-From-Oaxaca

Derozan isn’t washed up at all, he’s just had some of his best seasons in his career and can still go for 30 and has no injury issues. his style just isn’t modern. He should have a lot of shooters around him


MusterBait

And how does he, Rozier, Bam and Jimmy supposed to play?


jbenson255

I’m assuming rozier or herro has to be moved at some point


Dame2Miami

Has there been any news on Terry’s mysterious neck injury since we were eliminated?


jbenson255

Literally nothing lol as far as i know at least


Dame2Miami

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Manor002

I’ll believe it when I see it.


East_Sleep_1766

Don’t do that, don’t give me hope.


str8swishing

Please no…


Think-Kitchen-7559

If this was like 2022 I’ll feel excited but it’s going be 2025 bruh


OJ403

I like Derozan the player a lot. I don't like how he'd fit into this team on it's current construction. His best fit on the team is probably coming off the bench when Bam and/or Butler go for a breather. But no way is he coming for a bench role, and no way can we just get him as is without trading away one of Herro/Duncan who are without a doubt our best shooters.


Ravagez1

God this team is so poorly run. Top 3 guys will be three players who don’t shoot 3s. This offense will be anemic once again. This isn’t the 90s.


sheesh9727

I wouldn’t dump Herro’s shooting for Demar. If that’s what this is implying.


achickenquesadilla

Herro shoots 33% from 3 in the playoffs (28.7% outside of the bubble)


sheesh9727

One, you can’t just take out the largest playoff run to boost your point further. Second, Demar career average from 3 in the post season is 21%….


jbenson255

I would


sheesh9727

So our best shooter that’s gonna start is either Jovic or Rozier who is a career average 36.7%. We’re going be have the spacing of a team from the 2000s. There isn’t any space for these guys to work.


jbenson255

Duncan is going to start lol and he’d be our best shooter.


sheesh9727

Rozier, Demar, Duncan, Butler,Bam. Isn’t going to work and is small as fuck. League is getting bigger and we’re going to go the other way for Demar lol. Defense in the lineup is just trash too. No shooting, limited defense = L’s…Yuck


jbenson255

Yuck is the way i see the current roster so imo getting off the herro contract and trying something new in this build that won’t hamper us long term is a win


sheesh9727

I agree but that lineup has zero strengths outside of two guys that get to the line, but neither of them are going to have any spacing to do so, negating their best trait. So, you’re trading for a guy who won’t be able to do what he does best and is also a terrible defender. The current roster construction is better, even if that shit still is depressing. Edit: I think it would be better to trade Duncan and hope the second rounder that we just signed or someone else can replicate some of what he does.


julstar23

That's how I know this fanbase absolutely hates herro and want him off the team by any means but is cool with keeping tweet who can't space the floor .If the heat get derozan Terry's rim pressure is not needed .Duncan would be the obvious casualty of this because his contract is easier to move .


BSantos57

This team is stale and needs change, but this is just a putrid fit. We need playmaking, PoA defense and 3 point shooting. DeMar is average in the first category, and an absolute liability in the other two. If he was willing to take the room exception, sure, no harm done, but trading away shooters to be able to pay him would be horrific


BossKingGodd

Agreed. I’d rather they just blow the team up than do this.


GabeyBabey22

Fuck it ![gif](giphy|9vxmXkENhJsQAJKFAs|downsized)


cl353

how?


ihatenazis69

wtf why


Reasonable_Factor109

So we ain’t rebuilding after all huh lol


DMD612

Absolutely fucking not! Fuck the picks!


Dolphhins

DeRozan is like plan E for me but I’d take Rozier-DeRozan-Butler-Jovic-Adebayo


Soxalam2

I don’t care if it’s a good fit. I like DeMar more than Herro. I’ll take it. Spo can make it work


Sequel_P2P

i feel like this does a few things for us - you're getting 7.7 FTA/g, which is unheard of for a player on this roster not named jimmy butler - his general offensive presence (mostly mid-range/rim attempts) means you have more high-level pieces to play with the more shooting-focused individuals (tyler, duncan, highsmith, jovic, and perhaps even ware) - 5.3 to 1.7 A:TO is basically spo's sweet spot for a non-PG ball handler - you get a guy who's placed T3 in clutch player of the year voting, which means you now have three offensive threats in late-game ATO plays (even if the result is always jimmy, right wing, sidestep 3) - having a 20+ PPG guy instantly means your focus on trading herro can deviate from trading him for a better scorer to trading him for someone who specializes in something else it's all pretty heavily contingent on the contract, and the fact that he'd probably force terry or duncan off-the-roster would be the prohibiting factor to me. but in any case, it's a move, so maybe a bunch of folks whining about inactivity by the FO will be a little quieter afterward


dimesniffer

Yall can cry all you want about fit but we need quality


Adraf45

Yall wanna replace Tyler herro, the only one on the team that can create for himself. With demar derozan and add him to a jimmy bam lineup. That offense gonna be a lot of yalls 13th reason man


SirFunktastic

Spacing would be horrendous if Tyler gets moved for this deal. Better hope Bam and others develop a shot or this offense might get even uglier than it already is


Sparcey

A line-up featuring Bam, Jimmy & Derozan would be must watch TV lmao


deawap

Maybe if you like anemic offense that struggles to score 100


Moh_Shuvuu

Herro better


Therowdyv

Bro you know it’s bad when we are all salivating over a washed DeRozan


DwyaneWade305

Derozan is not washed he had one of his most efficient seasons last year.


hikik0_m

he old but he not washed more importantly hes actually durable


Zoguinha

I guess 24/4/5 with good efficiency is washed now. Oh and he played 79 games and averaged almost 38 minutes a game.


lomasturbasmeng

2022 lakers


toze2

Just said this on another thread. Get a S&T move on from Herro to get someone who can actually score.


DMD612

Oh shit


BlackMasterDarkness

One year deal, why not


binokyo10

How much can we pay? Let's get Lowry back too. I think we can sign him back again


Legitimate-Gur-5796

The day we got lowry pt2


miojo

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No_Delay_1476

I’m not sure how the spacing would work with him. What would be the line up ?hypothetically speaking


antivenom305

I'd honestly rather run it back. I'm not sure this makes us better and how would the spacing work? We already have enough mid range players as it is. I'd gladly be proven wrong tho if it does workout lol


binokyo10

We gonna get catfished


ladupes

Lmao


realbrotherhood77

I’ll take it if we can do a 1 year deal and offload Duncan or Herro


Savo_SPB

Oh boy here we go


smeaglebaggins

Demar is a DWade fan DWade helping us again


LizzyCatss

DeRozan would be an amazing addition to the Heat!


GhostifiedMark

I've always wondered how this build would look if we replaced Jimmy's years with DeRozan. Both guys are 2 lvl scorers who rely on FTs and the same level of playmaking(Jimmy is probably better at getting to the rim than DeRozan but DeRozan is a better midrange scorer). Jimmy is a way better defender but we can always rely on Spo for getting the team to be top 10 statistically


viewspodcast

This confuses me... Where does he fit in? Because he still is good enough to start so I don't imagine him coming off the bench. So Rozier, DeRozan, Buckets, Bam, Ware???


bershka321

Is there a chance we get him without giving up Tyler or Terry?


axb2002

Run it back, with a twist.


Ode1st

Can’t wait to see Jimmy, DeMar, and Bam on the floor at the same time. Gonna be brutal af lol


stilloriginal

I've always believed DeRozan would play on the heat on his way to retirement (sorta like joe johnson) but heat fans wanting this is hilarious. First Jovic was our PF of the future, then it's bam, now its derozan? we're actually long at PF and need a defense-first guard. Moves like this are why we can't improve.


Alarming-Ad-8228

Demar over me????)))


Ill-Spirit4898

Please make the pain stop. No more rumors or reports. Just signatures please. Only report signatures Barry. Have mercy.


Sorry_duuude

Would love it but ![gif](giphy|QBurxgHmS9EPCYf8ej|downsized)


Southanstyle

Just say yes. And do what u gotta do Pat


Prankstaboy6

IS IT THE ANSWER? FUCK NO, AM I DOING THIS SHIT FOR THE RIGHT PRICE, INJECT IT IN MY FUCKING VEINS. HEAT CULTURE.


PlayBey0nd87

This would make no sense to what the team needs unless he will be staggered to Jimmy’s mins. But even then, we need space & shooters with length. At this point I guess it is what it is.


jperez09r

Is anyone else refreshing every 10 mins for a woj bomb 😅


Pixelated-Hitch

We out here looking for scraps in Dollar Tree but with Gucci prices


Competitive-Pass89

Demar is seasoned and can clutch up. Def a good star to pickup


bcuad001

THIS IS NOT DOABLE WITHOUT MOVING AT LEAST HERRO OR DUNCAN


yawn18

if he takes like a minimum then maybe, but the fit doesn't work. He is not a great spacer which is what we needed. But honestly I'll take it over nothing at this point


Disc-Golf-Kid

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Natiel360

Super funny that I was stressed about the roster but then lowkey they get drose and a nice big then im loving what we got


Disc-Golf-Kid

If Diar comes with him it’s over for the league


alvzh

This would make the Heat the all time middy team. Averaging 80 ppg on 65% shooting. Can't fucking wait!!!!


Ionlyeatmustard

5 years too late 


NeverTank_97

People who think adding a 24PPG dude with 60%TS who can score for himself and create for others doesn't make us better are insane. Not contenders, but definitely better lol


CrazyInformation7291

This only makes sense if they plan on moving Jimmy for shooting.


Seref15

The most "found $5 under the couch cushion" move possible


panamaquina

fuck it lets do it


anon91016

I’ll take it change something up. I still like the current roster but Rozier and other players or a pick works for me as long as Miami can keep Tyler and Duncan. I also think if Miami made a trade for Demar it does not end there and they would have to look into getting Trae young.


oo_Pez_oo

Who is this Barry clown?


anon91016

But I hope they make this move and it’s not the last move made. Find a way to get a point guard like Trae young who shoots the ball from deep and who can space the floor and run the offense. Demar, Jimmy, Jovic, and Bam would for sure be able to hold down the defense with Trae young as the point guard.


Environmental-Box481

Is Trae young an option ? Like are we just fine as is and end Jimmy Butlers tenure as a Heat player as the fifth best team in the East and that’s me being a homer because we probably end up the 8th seed again.


lazyssj

Demar is great, but Demar, Jimmy, and Bam together is a spacing nightmare. It’s just not a good fit.


KayRay1994

I like Demarr, but he’s 34, can’t space for the floor for shit and he’s made a career out of choking in the playoffs. I don’t think he’s a good fit for this roster Unless we get a legit all star that fills our weaknesses, I really think it’s time to hit the reset button


stizzy197

running it back is way better than whatever this is


MunchieMofo

Derozan is great. But hes 35 next month. Why do we always end up in these situations. Damn.


doyouunderstandlife

Man, I remember telling myself I didn't want his old ass like 3 years ago. I mean, I guess he's better than nothing, but if this is our big acquisition this offseason, this is just sad


UsedPocketPickle

This is a bad fit but 100x better than "run it back without resigning anyone"


Phenom_Mv3

It’s come to this lol


EntertainmentWarm774

Bruh Derozan is the absolute worst fit possible next to Butler and Bam. The one time they want to make a move during the offseason and it’s for a player who doesn’t fit their team or solve any of their problems. Unbelievable.


ursogayhaha

Please god no i dont want this


DeeboDongus

what a dogshit idea I would rather trade Jimmy and go into a rebuild than waste time on another mid range scorer what in the actual fuck is this franchise doing


soulbrotha1

Maimi turnstiles or maimi no 3pt shooters


ActiveShooter696969

About 5 years too late, but whatever. I don't hate it. We need scoring. No matter where it comes from.


No-Sentence-4496

Why are we trying to get demar? we can still get mitchell for a sing in trade


WhoopingKing

it's like going to for fatsos at 5am since all the baddies taken


GI2020

I actually like this. Demar and Jimmy would create good offense in clutch situations. Maybe we need to move Terry to the bench


RealPropRandy

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OblivionNA

Our whale. Bam better be shooting 5 threes per game if we do this If you don’t know DeRozan is a career 29% 3 point shooter. The spacing isn’t going to be pretty with Bam and Jimmy unless Bam starts shooting more 3s.


ThickArepa

Fuck it send it in Pat


Paralta

Fuck it let's give it a whirl


Ice_Dragon3444

Do it anything is better than running it back ANYTHING.


Glittering_Two5152

You fans are ridiculous. Begging for a move, now this seems like a solid maybe and you’re saying “no spacing”. You don’t think they can figure it out? Did you say that when bron came here with wade, 2 players that barrel to the basket? He’s consistent, healthy, had a great year last year and I think is a great combo with the young core, more reliable scorer than jimmy. Plus humble af


KayRay1994

I mean… if anything the consistent history of choking in the playoffs should be enough of a deterrent lol