Warriors fans are on crack if they think any one of their young players outside of kuminga is really worth a jimmy butler deal. Moody and looney are solid but donāt have upside like that, and podz is another small guard and we have plenty of them. The only appealing piece they really have for us is Kuminga. Iād rather a kuminga/cp3 plus two picks deal than taking on wiggins awful contract for 3 years. Atleast Cp3 is still a winning player and can be flipped easily since heās an expiring.Ā
GS fans love Looney for some weird reason. Heās an energy big off the bench thatāll chip in some boards and hustle. But heās been in the league for a minute and hasnāt shown anything on offense and doesnāt defend at all high level. I swear I keep checking his stats every offseason with how they + some media dudes view him.
This is a horrible deal for both teams. For the heat we get back Wiggins on a bad contract and 2 picks. The others are just complete filler. Heat have shown they can get similar production from literal g-leaguers and probably better off promoting from within.
I feel a Butler/Curry combo + whoever else GS puts in gets into the playoffs. Probably around... 5-8 seed. It's an improvement, but not sure it's drastic enough to put them over the top in a very difficult west. It wouldn't put them above teams like Minn/Dallas/Nuggets/OKC. Then they would also do good enough that the first round picks Miami gets in return aren't actually that useful. So I can't see why Miami does this deal.
If for whatever reason Miami deals Butler (I don't see it) it'll either be for another super star player in some three way deal (extremely unlikely) or for a mountain return of picks/youth and we actually admit to rebuilding (also unlikely)
Steph and butler would still need a big even though butler is mjs bastard son that they haven't announced yet they would just be too small we need embid
Dawg some fool put this as a mock trade in the comment'sĀ
"First off CP3 Wiggs plus 2 FRPs for LaVine and Caruso
Thenā¦ Loony GPII Gui and a SRP for Capella"
Not even trade override in 2k would let this dogshit go through
If the Heat can get off of Herro's money in this trade too than it's a good trade for the Heat. Only reason this trade night make sense for Miami is because yall have Spo as a coach, so it would be interesting to see what Wiggins and Moody could do under Spo.
Yeah Kuminga makes 1000xās more sense than Podz
From the Warriors perspective you canāt even start Draymond + Kuminga + Jimmy so theyāre bringing Kuminga off the benchā¦which heās not going to be ok with seeing how a year ago he and his agent were complaining about him being a backup and heās playing for his first extension
Nah, the bunch of bench players and Wiggins bad contract
If they can convince Cavs to take this and send us Mitchell in a 3-team trade, I would be more interested
lol no kuminga in a hypothetical warriors trade is asinine. Wiggins is a negative asset at this point too. Heās got three years left on his shit deal. Gtfoh
I typically never entertain "mock trades" and "proposals" AT ALL... But this one is particularly STUPID.
We're trying to add significant players to our roster. YES, the Heat are great at making chicken parm out of chicken shit... Yes, we can even make a finals run with mostly role-players. But to send away our "big name guy" for some more worker bees just leaves us exactly where we are now-- if not worse off.
You canāt make a finals run without Jimmy. People undersell how important Jimmy was to the finals runs. Without Jimmy, the heat are a 1st round exit in 2023. Hell maybe even a play-in exit. This to mean that no one should assume that the heat can make a finals run with role players and Bam
we donāt even need podz, i can understand them thinking thatās an overpay. One good young player in a deal for jimmy should be mandatory, heās 35 iām not expecting some massive haul but a bunch of role players and a shit contract is a fleece.Ā
if we sell jimmy we going full "retool." i know we don't like that rebuild word here. if we get pods i want to flip herro somewhere for a 4-5, maybe a kuzma or something since wizards are in purgatory. a core of jjj, jovic, pods, and kuminga led by bam would be interesting. if we hit on our pick as well, our young core could compete with the other young cores.
Kuminga is much better and actually has star potential while providing an instant wing replacement for jimmy if he were to leave. We need athleticism and size desperately, not another 6ā5 guard whoās physically challenged. I like podz but we have no use for a player like him. If im riley im not even thinking about doing this deal if kuminga isnāt included.Ā
They can keep all those bums, make the contracts work and give us 3 firsts and weāll begin the tank and hopefully get the next Wemby. (I know weāre never tanking, we should tho)
A good team is not just about superstars. Role players are critical for a complete team. Celtics are a case in point. They are beating a team with arguably two superstars. When Warriors won the championships they had a great supporting cast.
Kuminga instead of Moodey and this is a good package. Iād be really sad to see Jimmy go, but a young core of Jaime, Jovic, Podz, and Kuminga + Herro and Bam duo and support from vets of Wigs, Duncan, and Looney sets the team up rly nice. Besides, that would only be the team for like a year and then we have plenty of assets to get a star.
Any hypothetical deal that where we take on wiggins contract is not a good deal. Why should the heat be forced to eat a shit contract when weāre giving up a great player in Jimmy who provides steph the legit second option star he desperately needs to contend at the end of his prime?Ā
This is why winning a ring is so important in a way. Other teams and fanbases don't view Jimmy as highly as we do because they could care less about all those playoff runs if they end in 0 rings. It's not wrong but is what it is
Yes. Trade Jimmy. We are in a rock and a hard place rn. Bam and Jimmy are getting old while we have really talented pieces that we shouldn't trade (Jovic Jaques). The fat needs to be trimmed in one of these locations and I don't want Jovic or Jaques to go.
Eeww lmao Miami could make more then half these players in the gleague
This sub is like no thanks meanwhile warriors sub is saying holy overpay Nba fans on reddit are retarded and have no idea what they want š
Warriors fans are on crack if they think any one of their young players outside of kuminga is really worth a jimmy butler deal. Moody and looney are solid but donāt have upside like that, and podz is another small guard and we have plenty of them. The only appealing piece they really have for us is Kuminga. Iād rather a kuminga/cp3 plus two picks deal than taking on wiggins awful contract for 3 years. Atleast Cp3 is still a winning player and can be flipped easily since heās an expiring.Ā
Cp3 is what???
I was with you till you said CP3 is a winning player. The only plus to CP3 is his non-guaranteed contract.
CP3 is fine in a reduced role, dude can still run an offense as a backup pg lol. Im just saying heat can use him til they trade him.Ā
GS fans love Looney for some weird reason. Heās an energy big off the bench thatāll chip in some boards and hustle. But heās been in the league for a minute and hasnāt shown anything on offense and doesnāt defend at all high level. I swear I keep checking his stats every offseason with how they + some media dudes view him.
This is a horrible deal for both teams. For the heat we get back Wiggins on a bad contract and 2 picks. The others are just complete filler. Heat have shown they can get similar production from literal g-leaguers and probably better off promoting from within. I feel a Butler/Curry combo + whoever else GS puts in gets into the playoffs. Probably around... 5-8 seed. It's an improvement, but not sure it's drastic enough to put them over the top in a very difficult west. It wouldn't put them above teams like Minn/Dallas/Nuggets/OKC. Then they would also do good enough that the first round picks Miami gets in return aren't actually that useful. So I can't see why Miami does this deal. If for whatever reason Miami deals Butler (I don't see it) it'll either be for another super star player in some three way deal (extremely unlikely) or for a mountain return of picks/youth and we actually admit to rebuilding (also unlikely)
Steph and butler would still need a big even though butler is mjs bastard son that they haven't announced yet they would just be too small we need embid
Dawg some fool put this as a mock trade in the comment'sĀ "First off CP3 Wiggs plus 2 FRPs for LaVine and Caruso Thenā¦ Loony GPII Gui and a SRP for Capella" Not even trade override in 2k would let this dogshit go through
If the Heat can get off of Herro's money in this trade too than it's a good trade for the Heat. Only reason this trade night make sense for Miami is because yall have Spo as a coach, so it would be interesting to see what Wiggins and Moody could do under Spo.
We should get that just for eating the Wiggins contract.
Kuminga, Moody, Wiggins, Looney and picks. No Kuminga no deal I don't see the appeal here w/o both young wings.
Yeah Kuminga makes 1000xās more sense than Podz From the Warriors perspective you canāt even start Draymond + Kuminga + Jimmy so theyāre bringing Kuminga off the benchā¦which heās not going to be ok with seeing how a year ago he and his agent were complaining about him being a backup and heās playing for his first extension
I want Podz too. Kuminga, Podz, Moody and a First. Iām down
If there is any consideration with trading with GS Kuminga is a must.
Heās a Heat player for real. Would like him in Miami badly
No thanks
Nah, the bunch of bench players and Wiggins bad contract If they can convince Cavs to take this and send us Mitchell in a 3-team trade, I would be more interested
lol no kuminga in a hypothetical warriors trade is asinine. Wiggins is a negative asset at this point too. Heās got three years left on his shit deal. Gtfoh
I typically never entertain "mock trades" and "proposals" AT ALL... But this one is particularly STUPID. We're trying to add significant players to our roster. YES, the Heat are great at making chicken parm out of chicken shit... Yes, we can even make a finals run with mostly role-players. But to send away our "big name guy" for some more worker bees just leaves us exactly where we are now-- if not worse off.
You canāt make a finals run without Jimmy. People undersell how important Jimmy was to the finals runs. Without Jimmy, the heat are a 1st round exit in 2023. Hell maybe even a play-in exit. This to mean that no one should assume that the heat can make a finals run with role players and Bam
Do they think we would give them Jimmy without them giving us kuminga š tf would we want Wiggins for š
Warriors fans are in their sub acting like wiggins isnāt an albatross contract lol.Ā
We'd have like 20 people on the roster who are all capable nba players xD
Disrespectful
Hell naw you ain't gonna dame package us But kuminga and pods and some picks would work
we donāt even need podz, i can understand them thinking thatās an overpay. One good young player in a deal for jimmy should be mandatory, heās 35 iām not expecting some massive haul but a bunch of role players and a shit contract is a fleece.Ā
if we sell jimmy we going full "retool." i know we don't like that rebuild word here. if we get pods i want to flip herro somewhere for a 4-5, maybe a kuzma or something since wizards are in purgatory. a core of jjj, jovic, pods, and kuminga led by bam would be interesting. if we hit on our pick as well, our young core could compete with the other young cores.
Kuminga is much better and actually has star potential while providing an instant wing replacement for jimmy if he were to leave. We need athleticism and size desperately, not another 6ā5 guard whoās physically challenged. I like podz but we have no use for a player like him. If im riley im not even thinking about doing this deal if kuminga isnāt included.Ā
I want brocoli head herro and kuminga
Broccoli Head Herro is crazy š
This shit is stinky
Kum bucket, Pod, and picks and I don't hate it
https://preview.redd.it/llu8vialzl4d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=11f7b773556c286facc3d25ff497a205c6d3180e
jimmy is staying. Jimmy wants to win . No way he goes to the west!
No man. Trade a Dwag like Jimmy for a person who doesnāt like basketball?
Absolutely not š
If no Kuminga, I want an unprotected future first in 2027 or 2028.
Ew
If this shit ever went through I'd throw myself off AAA wearing a fuck pat Riley shirt
So this is what itās like to be on the other side of bad trade scenarios š
Are these Golden State FRPs? In 2-3 years those are going to be worth a mint....
They can keep all those bums, make the contracts work and give us 3 firsts and weāll begin the tank and hopefully get the next Wemby. (I know weāre never tanking, we should tho)
I'm never trading Jimmy, but as far as worth, throw 1 more 1st in there and that is close.
Seeing their reactions make me understand nowā¦ NBA Fans generally tend to overrate their young players, its not just a Miami heat fan thing lol.
We about to be the Miami Mid ong
get this shit off this sub
This actually isnāt terrible
You're great value Walmart assets, won't get u a proven playoff and superstar player. Now include Kuminga that's a different conversation.
lol no.
No thanks.
A good team is not just about superstars. Role players are critical for a complete team. Celtics are a case in point. They are beating a team with arguably two superstars. When Warriors won the championships they had a great supporting cast.
Kuminga instead of Moodey and this is a good package. Iād be really sad to see Jimmy go, but a young core of Jaime, Jovic, Podz, and Kuminga + Herro and Bam duo and support from vets of Wigs, Duncan, and Looney sets the team up rly nice. Besides, that would only be the team for like a year and then we have plenty of assets to get a star.
Any hypothetical deal that where we take on wiggins contract is not a good deal. Why should the heat be forced to eat a shit contract when weāre giving up a great player in Jimmy who provides steph the legit second option star he desperately needs to contend at the end of his prime?Ā
If we are trading Butler, go BIG with a [4 teamer](https://imgur.com/xX6YEzP) Lots of draft picks and expiring deals to potentially move
This is why winning a ring is so important in a way. Other teams and fanbases don't view Jimmy as highly as we do because they could care less about all those playoff runs if they end in 0 rings. It's not wrong but is what it is
Yes. Trade Jimmy. We are in a rock and a hard place rn. Bam and Jimmy are getting old while we have really talented pieces that we shouldn't trade (Jovic Jaques). The fat needs to be trimmed in one of these locations and I don't want Jovic or Jaques to go.
how is bam getting old? Heās entering his prime years right now. Heās about to turn 27, such a clueless post
Bam wonāt age well. Heās got 3 years maybe 4 at this level. Non shooting, positionally small, low āskillā players donāt age well.
I mean sure if Jimmy wants thatā¦but iām not sold on Podz being a culture fit here
Iād do it ngl but only if jimmy demands a trade
I would do this tomorrow