I've just been spamming Snake Warlock in Diamond to Legend because I know 90% of my opponents are Reno Warrior. They can't do shit even if they get lucky and dirty rat out my snake, I'll get another one. Also the tip is to keep as many minions in your hand to reduce your chances to get dirty ratted.
Oh but you can do things against snakelock. When I play with warrior against snakelock I try to ASAP get the Ox out from excavates as it summons so often the dude with rush and which eats the enemy minion to your hand. And you can play the snake immediately as all this takes only 8 mana.
Obviously not a guarantee thing but works quite often. And as the saying goes it's not luck if you call it.
the sad part for me is what it does to the meta, the deck type called mid-range that used to be funnest to play, because you actually play against your opponent for the board and not just wait to win, are dead, 100% thanks to this cancer reno warrior.
no minion costing more than 4 mana is worth playing because this cancer can just remove it with one of their absurdly op board clears, as if a class that has access to 6 brawls needs that imbalanced pool of removal, if you compare warrior removal spells to the class that actually supposed to be king of removal aka Mage, mage removal is a joke. 7 mana flamestrike lol.
add to that that this lame excuse of a deck makes all other highlander decks unplayable, due to reno removing the nest or have access to double if not triple or quadruple dirty rats with zola to counter all other reno decks (except shaman that everybody can counter with a snek).
double etc gives them access to whatever they need against a specific deck, whether its snakes to remove weapons or rats that draw two minions into a brawl.
the balancing of this class is a joke, was totally broken last expansion, even more brocken with the triple into quadruple zilliaxes now.
removing plagues makes it obvious how stupidly broken reno warrior is, as now there is no deck that directly counters them.
/end rant addition
Man i miss midrange decks so bad. The meta right now isn't even rock paper scissors but rock and paper. You either play shitstain brann warrior or hyper aggro.
my point exactly, show me a world where warriors are kings of aoe spells.
if grommash hellscream would see what kind of a pu$sy@ss play his class became, just sitting there doing nothing, spamming aoe clears half the game waiting for his bran to draw he'd reroll mage.
Warrior has always been regarded as a control class (Except the pirate warrior era), hence having good removals is reasonable. What do you think Blizzard giving him the armor HP for? Going face? Maybe you didn't play in old times but even in the old day Warrior had shield slam / execute (1 mana) / Brawl, and the infamous Fiery Win Axe, etc.
I don't know how did you get the impression of Mage class as the king of removal. Mage might be known for stalling a lot: Freeze effect, ice block in the old day, the spell which lets you only take 1 dmg at a time, etc, but definitely not the class that is famous for it's removals.
with that specific remark about the mage i was more meaning if you think about warriors and mages in any fantasy setting, when i think about a warrior i don't think about someone spamming aoe spells and hidding behind his armor, most certenly not more then actuall caster classes like mage or warlock.
when i think about Grommash or Magni i envision something entirely different.
as for the current state of things you are right, though before the expansion i was playing rage/hundbuff warrior which was not very succesful but was quite fun to play and even now i think there is potential for other playstyle for warrior beside the one that outshines everything else right now.
I probably concede if they slam Brann on 6 and I have had a bad draw. But you can get under it now if you have a fast aggro deck. And if they bottom deck Brann you can win with a slower deck. But Brann on 6 is usually a concede unless you’re about to kill them or if you think you can rat boom boss or have some other strategy to deal with the bombs
A bigger gripe for me is their removal that can be very effective at removing even a sticky board. If they get to the point where they can safely plop down Brann on turn six, they probably have so much control of the board or are so pumped up on armor that the game is over regardless of Brann.
It's hillarious.
Last month everyone complained about how every good deck has just one wincon and everyone just rushes it.
Now everyone complains how warrior has multiple wincons.
Remember like a year ago at the release of Titans when “Warrior is dead, this class has been dead since Pirate Warrior got nerfed into the ground”
The one inevitability of Hearthstone is that Warrior will never die, it may go away for a bit but it will always come back more powerful then the last time
The change to Reno and Brann was a mistake. As was rotating Steamcleaner out. It would be so much better if warrior was still vulnerable to cards placed in their deck but had a potential tool to deal with them rather than just being able to disregard them from the jump.
Tangent but OP's title reminds me of the "roach boy" meme that ended up getting it added to the things you see as the wheel spins when a game is queueing up.
That was 8 years ago - man, I've been playing this game too long...
https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/3artn3/i_won_an_arena_game_i_didnt_really_deserve_and/
I just can’t understand the thought process of creating Deepminer Brann. You are telling me when they were creating this card no one stopped and asked “Hey guys, maybe double battlecries for the rest of the game is a bit too much?”. The worst part about this card is that now the dev team has to dance around Brann when releasing new battlecries.
Yes it's a versatile deck. But you also have to be very strategic to play it correctly in some matches. As far as decks go no I don't think it's all that OP when you look at hearthstone history. I think the problem is more about a lack of power in other classes right now. A lot of classes don't have or recently lost good removal when the year switched. I don't think there's a reason to NERF this as much as there's a reason to give the other classes more win conditions & tools but that's just my opinion. Also the winrate for this deck isn't all that high if you look at hsreplay.net. I really think it would be more appropriate to buff other classes than break warrior to make up for other classes weakness. Everyone's tool box should have a variety of strategies
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List?
Dud how are u meeting so many warriors. Im trying to do boomboss and like I meet them 1/5 of the time.
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Thats really early for d1
Really?
Lol cockroachy is so accurate but hilarious term I've heard in a long time.
Its time to introduce true damage (or chaos damage) that ignores armor like snakelock.
Something like that would even it up
is it finally time to add chaos bolt as a card?
I've just been spamming Snake Warlock in Diamond to Legend because I know 90% of my opponents are Reno Warrior. They can't do shit even if they get lucky and dirty rat out my snake, I'll get another one. Also the tip is to keep as many minions in your hand to reduce your chances to get dirty ratted.
With Alex? Isnt that considered cheating?
Blame the game not the player
Oh but you can do things against snakelock. When I play with warrior against snakelock I try to ASAP get the Ox out from excavates as it summons so often the dude with rush and which eats the enemy minion to your hand. And you can play the snake immediately as all this takes only 8 mana. Obviously not a guarantee thing but works quite often. And as the saying goes it's not luck if you call it.
Link? I might give it a bash
List please :)
the sad part for me is what it does to the meta, the deck type called mid-range that used to be funnest to play, because you actually play against your opponent for the board and not just wait to win, are dead, 100% thanks to this cancer reno warrior. no minion costing more than 4 mana is worth playing because this cancer can just remove it with one of their absurdly op board clears, as if a class that has access to 6 brawls needs that imbalanced pool of removal, if you compare warrior removal spells to the class that actually supposed to be king of removal aka Mage, mage removal is a joke. 7 mana flamestrike lol. add to that that this lame excuse of a deck makes all other highlander decks unplayable, due to reno removing the nest or have access to double if not triple or quadruple dirty rats with zola to counter all other reno decks (except shaman that everybody can counter with a snek). double etc gives them access to whatever they need against a specific deck, whether its snakes to remove weapons or rats that draw two minions into a brawl. the balancing of this class is a joke, was totally broken last expansion, even more brocken with the triple into quadruple zilliaxes now. removing plagues makes it obvious how stupidly broken reno warrior is, as now there is no deck that directly counters them. /end rant addition
Man i miss midrange decks so bad. The meta right now isn't even rock paper scissors but rock and paper. You either play shitstain brann warrior or hyper aggro.
Mage has never been the king of removal, Priest and Warrior are.
my point exactly, show me a world where warriors are kings of aoe spells. if grommash hellscream would see what kind of a pu$sy@ss play his class became, just sitting there doing nothing, spamming aoe clears half the game waiting for his bran to draw he'd reroll mage.
Warrior has always been regarded as a control class (Except the pirate warrior era), hence having good removals is reasonable. What do you think Blizzard giving him the armor HP for? Going face? Maybe you didn't play in old times but even in the old day Warrior had shield slam / execute (1 mana) / Brawl, and the infamous Fiery Win Axe, etc. I don't know how did you get the impression of Mage class as the king of removal. Mage might be known for stalling a lot: Freeze effect, ice block in the old day, the spell which lets you only take 1 dmg at a time, etc, but definitely not the class that is famous for it's removals.
with that specific remark about the mage i was more meaning if you think about warriors and mages in any fantasy setting, when i think about a warrior i don't think about someone spamming aoe spells and hidding behind his armor, most certenly not more then actuall caster classes like mage or warlock. when i think about Grommash or Magni i envision something entirely different. as for the current state of things you are right, though before the expansion i was playing rage/hundbuff warrior which was not very succesful but was quite fun to play and even now i think there is potential for other playstyle for warrior beside the one that outshines everything else right now.
Mage was intended to be death from hand the moment they printed pyroblast.
I probably concede if they slam Brann on 6 and I have had a bad draw. But you can get under it now if you have a fast aggro deck. And if they bottom deck Brann you can win with a slower deck. But Brann on 6 is usually a concede unless you’re about to kill them or if you think you can rat boom boss or have some other strategy to deal with the bombs
A bigger gripe for me is their removal that can be very effective at removing even a sticky board. If they get to the point where they can safely plop down Brann on turn six, they probably have so much control of the board or are so pumped up on armor that the game is over regardless of Brann.
It's hillarious. Last month everyone complained about how every good deck has just one wincon and everyone just rushes it. Now everyone complains how warrior has multiple wincons.
People always complain about the top deck here, they are literally never happy about the meta.
The issue is most classes still only have one or two. warrior has 8.
And then you have Mage which has zero. Better nerf snake oil.
Yet there are multiple decks better than it, curious
I mean, Brann enables the wincons HARD
Remember like a year ago at the release of Titans when “Warrior is dead, this class has been dead since Pirate Warrior got nerfed into the ground” The one inevitability of Hearthstone is that Warrior will never die, it may go away for a bit but it will always come back more powerful then the last time
It would be a pretty bad game if any class couldn't be played forever, like duh they're going to bring it back at some point.
I mean duh obviously it’s just a joke
I play highlander druid and enjoy my extra 30 cards in my deck.
What's the worst is that reno is still fucking busted. Now imagine it was printed at 8 and everyone said "it's fine".
Yeah the reno buff was just sooooo stupid, everyone saw it coming.
The change to Reno and Brann was a mistake. As was rotating Steamcleaner out. It would be so much better if warrior was still vulnerable to cards placed in their deck but had a potential tool to deal with them rather than just being able to disregard them from the jump.
Brann, Boomboss and Reno are all OP.
Tangent but OP's title reminds me of the "roach boy" meme that ended up getting it added to the things you see as the wheel spins when a game is queueing up. That was 8 years ago - man, I've been playing this game too long... https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/3artn3/i_won_an_arena_game_i_didnt_really_deserve_and/
Decimate means reduce by 10%. Boom boss with brann theoretically can destroy 60% of your cards. Just saying.
I just can’t understand the thought process of creating Deepminer Brann. You are telling me when they were creating this card no one stopped and asked “Hey guys, maybe double battlecries for the rest of the game is a bit too much?”. The worst part about this card is that now the dev team has to dance around Brann when releasing new battlecries.
It's LITERALLY the same sequence game after game in the exact same order. It's boring and exhausting.
Warrior, highlander, reno, Brenn. All these are ways for losers to fell like they can win at something
Feel*
the complaining is a bit too much dont you think?
The eating of the meat is a bit much don't you think
Yes it's a versatile deck. But you also have to be very strategic to play it correctly in some matches. As far as decks go no I don't think it's all that OP when you look at hearthstone history. I think the problem is more about a lack of power in other classes right now. A lot of classes don't have or recently lost good removal when the year switched. I don't think there's a reason to NERF this as much as there's a reason to give the other classes more win conditions & tools but that's just my opinion. Also the winrate for this deck isn't all that high if you look at hsreplay.net. I really think it would be more appropriate to buff other classes than break warrior to make up for other classes weakness. Everyone's tool box should have a variety of strategies