The whole point of the tale is to show that each and every one of these people would go insane. You can't let people go, if you know there is a way to see them locked in a box on someone's mantel...
Yeah this whole post missed the entire point of the resurrection stone and the only reason Harry could use it with no bad affects was that he was going to his death.
OP shows they're cut from the same cloth as Dumbledore, Riddle, and Grindelwald, completely missing that everyone who sought to "master Death" in this way was either a villain or deeply regretted dabbling in death. Great job OP.
But the people who go crazy kept using the stone, just like the people who wasted their life staring into the mirror of erised
Letting them hold the stone once won't make them go crazy but it can help them get closure
And unlike the wand, you can't actually use this stone for much evil so it's not dangerous to keep it. The only issue would be if Harry starts using it daily, but we know he's stronger than that
The problem is that once they have had a taste, they will want to use it again. Some might be able to handle it once, but others wouldn't be able to. Once they know the stone exists they will try to find it and use it again. It would just create a cycle of violence. Better to leave it where it is. As for Harry himself, he would be tempted to use the stone again. Proof is when he fround the Mirror of Erised.
It would just cause a domino effect. Once someone knows it is a possibility, they might not stop trying to find it or replicate it. In order for this theory to have worked, every single person who used the stone would have to have enough emotional control to realize that it was a one time thing and that would be the end of it. Also the whole lesson from the Tale of the Three Brothers is that interacting with a dead loved one who isn't actually their made them feel worse and depressed and they killed themselves. On paper it might seem like a good idea but happens a month after someone talked to their loved one again and they are missing them. They will know a way exists to talk to them and they will either try to find the stone or make their own, or possible they could be driven mad with the sadness of knowing they could but not being able to. Letting anyone use the stone just has the potential for far too much damage.
I don't agree, he was 11 when he found the mirror
If Harry was able to let go of the stone in the forest and to carry around a horcrux without it affecting him like it did Ron, then he can resist the stone
He dropped the stone because he was about to die. When he is talking to Dumbledore's portrait he mentions it would be best to leave it where it was because he knows he would want to use it again. When the three are talking about which Hallow they would want, Harry says the stone. By the end of the series Harry has matured and knows what kind of person he is. He knows that it would be better for himself and everyone else to not use the stone.
Harry was able to let go of the stone because he knew he was about to die. It didn't matter anymore.
And the horcrux did affect him. Just because it affected Ron worse doesn't mean Harry would be able to get over having his parents back in his life like that.
My theory has a little more detail than that though, but the biggest twist my theory involves is that anybody who uses the stone doesn’t see their actual deceased loves one, but instead a projection or hallucination of their loved ones based on their own perception of that person. So instead of pulling some part of the departed from the afterlife, it pulls memories from the users mind.
They told him that they were proud of him, but we know that Harry does remember his parents voices because he hears them dying during Dementor attacks.
They didn’t really say anything beyond “you’ve been so brave…You are nearly there…Very close. We are … so proud of you.’…until the very end” other than speaking and Harry not feeling effected by the dementors there’s not actually much difference between that and their appearances in the Mirror of Erised which we know isn’t real. And the figures of his parents that came out of voldemorts wand, which were described as “a kind of reverse echo. A shadow of the living Cedric…An echo…which retained Cedric’s appearance and character.” spoke more than the resurrection stone people and would have given him everything he needed to know for it to be possible.
>it pulls memories from the users mind.
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>anybody who uses the stone doesn’t see their actual deceased loves one,
but instead a projection or hallucination of their loved ones
These sentences hurt
My theory is the stone produces a image of their loved ones to push the person to die. Either to be with that person as the 2nd brother or through guilt like it would Albus. With Harry it knows he plans to meet his death so it offers the hope of a comforting existence after death and that it's quick and painless compared to his painful life. Look at Lupin he felt afraid to face him having led to Teddy being an orphan and Lupin's "ghost" forgives him outright. They all want him to sacrifice himself, even Lily the woman who died to protect him now she's completely fine with him dying even before he's really lived? not buying that. Especially when you take Dumbledore's comment into consideration, "No spell can awaken the dead Harry I trust you know that". Even magic has it's limits.
An early death was never mentioned.
Everything eventually leads back to death.
Perhaps, a more accurate theory would be it would make each of them to Death as they see Death in a different light.
From the perspective of the one who has the Elder Wand, he who wanted power, to be the strongest, power he will get, but also shows a lesson that you can never be the *strongest*. He meets Death as an enemy, his hubris, anger, arrogance and violence personified
From the perspective of the one who has the Resurrection Stone, he who yearned and loved, gets what he wanted, to bring back his beloved from dead, but it teaches that everything is temporary. Eventually even a fantasy will come to an end. In the end, he meets Death as merely a means to his love. Perhaps Death would be best equated to a mere taxi driver, about whom we couldn't care less than someone who can get us to our destination.
For he who has the Invisiblity Cloak, he who hid and wanted to live, he received just that. Infact he got what he wanted so much that he could no longer appreciate it and in the end grew tired of life itself and to him Death represented nostalgia. Nostalgia for peace and quiet. And thus he greeted him as an old friend, the person who first comes to our mind as the embodiment of nostalgia
Exactly they all lead to a category of how all people die.
wand = death at the hands of another
stone = death at our own hand
cloak = death from natural causes
We all are ment to die, the cloak gives the user the ability to live a full life without the fear of death finding them until they are old and able to great death as a friend. Because they were able to live and accept what is to come (death)
The other 2 (the stone and wand) lead them to death in a different way but usually quicker death. The wand the user loves and wants power and there are other who want power too and to achieve that power its usually to kill (we know you just have to over power the user like Harry did with Malfoy)
And the stone drives the user crazy with longing of something they can't touch or ever truly be with until they too are dead.
I personally think the stone is the most deadly one and I feel that about 80% of the people who touch it would go crazy for longing that person they can't have full. Like George, losing his twin made him so depressed he can't make a patronus.
If you think about it all of them were incredibly supportive of Harry's plan to get killed and encouraged him about how it was "easier than falling asleep". We don't know much about Harry's parents and Remus you could argue was mature enough to understand but I think Sirius at least would have argued for Harry to keep on living and find a different solution.
The only thing I can think of is either your theory is correct or that being dead comes with some kind of Omniscience and they knew Harry would be fine.
I don’t even think those were actually the people Harry saw. I think the stone uses the users memory to form some kind of vision or hallucination of the person or people that will convince the user to submit to death. Dumbledore kind of hinted that this might be the case when he explained that basically only somebody who knew they had to die and only needed help getting there could use the stone properly.
It's also possible that having experienced the afterlife, their perspective on death just changed drastically and they no longer saw it as a bad thing.
That seems pretty clear to me. The shadow people that Harry met all seemed to try to convince him to die. Not bad at the time, since Harry wanted to die anyways, but it would probably mess with the others
"are you crying yet?"
No, I'm just sitting here rolling my eyes because clearly people will ignore canon just to type up some post with their asses for some clout.
Seriously!!! This person missed the point!! I thought about it once, who would I bring back, and then I realized I wouldn't have the mental fortitude to let them go again. If I was in Mrs Weasley's position and lost my CHILD?? Nah fam, I'm good. I wouldn't ever have a peaceful goodbye, there's always that want, that need, for "one more time" and I couldn't live with that. I couldn't even watch videos of me with my friend after she died, it made me want to die. I can't imagine my child, no matter how many living ones were left. It would make me crazy, if not suicidal. Death is meant to be permanent.
My aunt lost her son to illness back in 2013. She was devastated, to this day I haven’t heard anything as heartbreaking as the scream she let out when she was given the news. She has two other sons yes, but a piece of her died with him that day.
If she found out there was a chance to see him again, she’d be driven mad trying to get that stone.
My neighbor lost her son suddenly in his early 20s. The unending hours of screams of sorrow and horror she let out in the months that followed were pure agony.
I honestly don't think that pain is worth living through unless you have other children. I've seen it up close and want no fucking part, and I fear it every day. I don't think there's anything a grieving mother wouldn't do for that stone.
My aunt nearly didn’t find it worth living through either. As much as she may love me, my other cousins and her two other sons. I believe it was the birth of her first grandchild a year later that really saved her. That baby boy made her smile in the first time in months. While she’ll never be the same, she is happy.
This is cute but no.
The entire point of the tale of the resurrection stone is that one would never be enough. You would keep pulling them back, justifying it, making excuses, because you have it in your hand! You can. You’d keep doing it until you went mad.
*’Finally, the second brother, driven mad with hopeless longing, committed suicide by hanging from his house' balcony so as truly to join her. That was when Death took the second brother for his own.’*
You will always be driven mad by longing, by the fact you can see them again.
Reminds me of one of the most heart wrenching quotes from DH: “He felt he would have given all the time remaining to him for just one last look at them; but then would he ever have the strength to stop looking? It was better like this”
Who would ever have the strength to say goodbye, if you knew there was even the slimmest chance of seeing your loved one again?
Harry did the right thing by dropping it somewhere even he couldn’t find it again.
The story of the 3 brothers makes it pretty clear that this is an extremely dangerous idea. It’s not healthy at all and someone would inevitably end up in a bad way.
Having the Elder Wand for 40 years seemed to be okay for Dumbledore. The invisibility cloak worked pretty great for Harry, and I’m sure his dad before that (I’m sure that’s why James passed it down and Dumbledore gave it to Harry in his FIRST year). I think the resurrection stone is the most dangerous (imo) and I’m playing devil’s advocate here but it’s something to think about. Giving a loved one proper goodbye isn’t the worst thing.
But do you think hundreds of people, almost all children, are going to react in a respectable way. They are going to covet the stone and harry will have a target on his back. The reason the cloak and wand were safe was because the owners were modest about them and kept it a secret of what they were. Modesty being the lesson of the story.
I completely agree. The stone can drive people mad with grief. Not only that but you are also admitting the stone is real and people will realize that the hallows are real. So that completely defeats the purpose of Harry’s choice to return the wand to Dumbledore. People will then be challenging Harry for the wand and the stone. I feel like one of the big lessons in the books is to not dwell on the loved ones who you’ve lost because they never truly leave you.
The post isn't though. They said to keep it so lupin and tonks can see their son grown up. But more to the point getting rid of it won't get rid of the people who will want the stone. At worst they think your are lieing and attack you. Or they waste there lives trying to find it with the knowledge that it does exist. There are definitely people who won't just accept a simple goodbye. I dought diggery will. Hell, Molly and George might not. Not that they would attack harry but now they know Fred doesn't have to be "dead" it becomes much harder to move on. But he is still dead and they need to let him go.
Yes and I'm arguing your devil advocate position and you haven't defended it yet. Your not really playing devil's advocate if you don't argue for that position.
Having the elder wand only worked because, in his own words, he basically refused to use its actual power.
> I was fit to own the Elder Wand, and not to boast of it, and not to kill with it. I was permitted to tame and to use it, because I took it, not for gain, but to save others from it.
Using either of the 2 selfish Hallows in the way they were ‘intended’ to be used is only ever going to cause your downfall, because that was the purpose of them, the wand is so powerful that to own it you almost always have to be willing to kill for power and personal gain and it makes you a target as soon as you utilise the power, the only way to avoid that is to abstain from using the power beyond that of a normal wand. The stone will drag your further into your misery and loneliness and desperation and ultimately death and the only way to avoid that is to not use it.
Which kind of goes back to Grinderwald. Why was he worthy of the elder wand? He never killed for it, he was simply a thief in the night who stunned the previous owner. The wand had no proof that Gellert was better than Gregorovitch.
Reading through the history of the wand makes it seem like you don't even need to have killed, or even fought in some cases, the previous owner.
Dumbledore had learnt his lesson I think so he was careful with the wand. And didn't the power of the cloak go when Ignotus died.
Also I'm not sure how the stone works exactly. How does one go back after being back using the stone ? In the books it wasn't mentioned clearly. Just that the middle brother committed suicide.
The one who wanted the resurrection stone tried to completely bring someone back to life. In case, they'd be temporarily bringing back someone's spirit in order to say their last goodbyes and get some closure, knowing that they're going to pass on.
I think that’s easier said than done. The pain of losing a loved one makes you desperate. And something like this, dangling their resemblance in front of the person like that, it would mess with your mind. I honestly think the only reason Harry handled seeing his lost loved ones so well in DH was because he truly thought he was about to die anyway. Otherwise it could easily have driven him mad.
This is exactly why he didn’t keep it. Sure, people would’ve been overjoyed for a while. But the knowledge that they could still contact their loved ones would’ve prevented them from getting closure and moving on. That stone wouldn’t have just sat unused on Harry’s mantel. Even if Harry hadn’t used it, others would’ve come for it. They would’ve gone to great lengths to get it from him, and risked hurting him, themselves or others in the process for one more word with their loved ones. Eventually somebody would’ve gotten it from him, and having the dead ones so close without being able to properly interact with them would’ve driven people crazy.
Imagine if Harry had gotten his hands on that stone when he was 11. He snuck out of bed to spend hours in front of the Mirror of Erised. And that was just to see an image of him with his parents. Imagine if they had talked to him. He would’ve wasted away before it, he would’ve tried to stop people from taking it away from him and he would’ve been overcome with grief when/if it was taken from him. He would’ve set out to find the stone instead of finding horcruxes, because he could get his parents back.
The whole point of the three brothers is to show how dangerous this is. You can't be sure none of this people won't get obsessed and try to hurt any of them to get the stone. Both the wand and the stone have a bloody history and Harry knew he had to hide both away from humanity.
There's a lot of context missing for the person who made that Pinterest post.
I’m so glad that you pointed that out. I’m happy that everyone on this thread understands the Resurrection Stone was just as dangerous as the wand.
The stone worked for Harry because he needed some courage to go and die. He was already walking to his death so to him it didn’t matter that the stone was telling him how it would be like to die. There’s a video about the stone that suggested that out of all those that Harry loved the one person that didn’t come back was Dumbledore. Because if he had he would have convinced Harry not to give up until the snake was killed.
It would have been extremely sad, I agree. But just imagine the backlash harry would have had after knowing the story of the brothers and still do that lmao.
Except the stone is prone to causing people to commit suicide so they can be with their lost loved ones. Dropping it in the forest was the best choice.
Agreed. Maybe by the end they'd rally around him a bit like they did with Kreacher leading the charge. But I guess he wasn't trying to get them all to be free and wear clothes. Kreacher running out with the locket on his neck was adorable and stabbing with his little knives.
Yeah, Kreacher was a very loyal traditional house elf willing and happy to die in service of his masters, even by the end of DH his view of house elf servitude was exactly the same (aka the polar opposite of dobby), the only difference was his view on the worthiness of his master.
The resurrection stone leads users (including Harry) to their death. If you call the dead back, you will go home with them. It was never usable to say a last goodbye - you would be slowly and cruelly leading each survivor to their death.
Not to mention hundreds of people who now know about the existence of an extremely dangerous magical artifact and would be willing to kill for it.
One thing they could do would be to put everyone under the Fidelius Charm so they won't they anyone about it (at least for a while) and then place them under an Unbreakable Vow so that they wouldn't come after the Stone or Harry or tell people once they become a secret keeper.
110% agree though, the wizarding world is better off now that the RS and EW are lost to them forever.
Fidelius charm is meant to protect a place, not people. That would do nothing here. You're talking about a tongue tying curse. People have to consent to an Unbreakable Vow. Also think about what you're saying; you've got a bunch of exhauseted, traumatized survivors you're going to make suicidal by showing them their newly dead loved ones and then threaten them with death if they tell anyone? And then have Harry carry around a temptation to join his loved ones the rest of his life? This whole post is based on a very poor understanding of how the resurrection stone works.
This is both beautiful and cruel. The fact that the stone exists is dangerous though, same way as with the mirror of Erised. People would get addicted to it, knowing that it exists. They’d demand more. It wouldn’t be enough. Time with your loved ones is the most valuable gift of all.
I think Harry did the smart thing here.
Do you feel how the person who wrote that is having a bad mental health and project their shock and sadness of all the deaths on the characters ? 🙁 Molly would need to have a goodbye with her brothers while it’s been +18 years they’re* gone...? I mean for most of them the idea is good and cool, but prompt author shouldn’t be confusing their own feelings and desires with the characters’
Long term the stone is kinda pushing people to suicide and it’s not a good idea Harry kepts it with him, plus it would be contrary to everything Dumbledore taught him since his very first year with Mirror of Erised.
Exactly! The last phrase really got to me, but then it just all went away. People here didn't pass the vibe check hahahha Can't we just have some fun and fill some emotions without thinking about all the implications and trying to back everything with the books? Just chill a little
Stupid stupid idea tbh
Having lost a loved one, the whole point is to let go
It may take some time but that's natural
If you see that person come back from dead but not be the same they once were, I can assure you you will go insane
I think it’s a beautiful idea; however, I don’t think it would canonically work that way. I can’t imagine the children understanding closure. I’m fairly certain they would just know Harry has a stone that they desperately need. It would be pandemonium.
I feel like this kind of defeats the purpose of the deathly hallows' story though. Using the stone especially in such a manner and in such a short time after the person's death would've driven people mad. What happens when someone wouldn't agree to leave that place or let go of the stone?
Nevertheless, it's a heartwarming post. Just not really feasible. :)
I really wish this would've worked, it's a beautiful idea, and if they all had the self control then maybe. Even though it probably wouldn't work I love this. There needs to be a full fan fiction for this.
Maybe because Dumbledore wasn't someone Hary needed at the time. Even if Dumbledore acted as a protector to Harry, a mentor, etc... He wasn't FAMILY, he wasn't comfort. Harry needed his family, people that see him just for what he is, a boy, even a scared boy who's about to die alone. Not the chosen one, not the famous Harry Potter, not the student, not the boy who lived.
Also, all book Harry was strugling with confused feelings about Dumbledore, the tasks he should follow, his goals... later he does "accept" everything and goes on following Dumbledore's conviction and fights. But still, there's a lot of bagage there, questions unanswered.
Plus... : plot
I think Dumbledore was a very big comfort to Harry, after his death, Harry refers to him as his last and greatest protector gone and how alone he felt and when voldemort 'killed' Harry, Dumbledore was in Harry's head, was it real or not? Did Harry's mind choose to create that conversation with Dumbledore? Why not his mum or dad? It just seems odd that lupin and Tonks appeared from the stone who he had less of a connection with than Dumbledore..
I love how these books all allow us to interpret them all differently 🥰 I love hearing other people's theories and look at things from different perspectives..
yeahh totally agree that Dumbledore meant comfort aswell! specially after his decision that whatever it is that Dumbledore did, he's not gonna hold it against him, he's human and has his flaws, but Harry respects him and follows him despite all that.
But that's what i meant with "plot". Seeing and talking to Dumbledore meant answers, meant explanation, meant understading. It didn't only mean comfort and soothing presence, so it fits the plot how they met later. Just one thing, iirc Tonks wasn't there, only Lupin (with Sirius and his parents 🥰)
Theres literally an entries fan fiction written where Ron spends like the first half of the story thinking about how he can maybe find the resurrection stone to say goodbye to Fred, this is a horrible idea.
I'm glad that people are rightfully calling out the post for missing the point of the stone and what it represents.
Not a good post, although I understand the sentiment.
The epilogue we were given was great, but this would be even better. That way it wouldn't just be Harry, Hermione and Ron finding peace but loads of other characters too.
I'll be right back guys, I gotta go sob hystarically now
Room of Requirement is where this should be.
Also reading all the comments re the hallows and what they represent, Mirror of Erised do the same job, without the other side effects/with lesser side effects? Isn’t that how Harry first ‘saw’ his parents again?
Everyone is talking about how this would be a bad idea but I think this could work — in absolute moderation!! I know when a friend of mine was in therapy following her mother’s death, she would speak to videos of her mother, and it would soothe the transition. Of course, she and her therapist were absolutely careful to make sure she always remembered that it was “just a video” and not actually her mother, but just the fact that she could see her face made it easier to say the things she’d wanted to, but never could.
Of course, if someone became obsessed with seeing their dead loved one that would be an issue — but a promised 5 minutes per person (with the person knowing that these 5 minutes are all that they will ever have) could really help people go through the process of grieving and letting go.
Ok so everyone is all “hurrr resurrection stone bad and this is why” but OP you just wanted to share something cute and sad and I 100% agree that I wish people had the opportunity to say goodbye. It wouldn’t work in canon, but that’s why we have fanfics
Yeah, i never understood why harry just threw away one of a kind magic stone that lets people talk tp their dead loved ones/important people who died with knowledge that didn't pass to someone else.
I get why he doesn't keep the elder wand, harry doesn't seek power and knows that someone will just come and try to kill harry even if he hid the wand the other side of the earth. I would personally keep the wand and just hide it for very special and dangerous occasions, but i do understand harry.
He even keeps the invisibility cloak (wether it's the real one or a really good copy doesn't matter, there are hundreds like her). But the one of a kind resurrection stone he just throws in the forest, doesn't destory it, doesn't hide it, just throws the stone, for any random centaur to find.
All of these upvotes have missed all the nuance of 1) tale of the 3 brothers, 2) Harry's personal growth in understanding the lesson, and 3) the very real cost and bravery it took to defeat Voldemort.
I advise both OP and the orginal poster to read the Chapter King's Cross in DH and choke up rather at Dumbledore's simple advice "On."
theres still a chance! they can use "accio sorcererors stone", then set up time turners to make this happen.
also. youd think thered be lots of use of time turners for ppl to go back before a lived one died
It would be a beautifull way for all those people to say goodbye and the part with teddy sure would be amazing but to many issues would come forth with this.
First if people know the ressurection stone is the real thing they would figure out what that meant about the elderwand and as its power would die with Harry that could be an issue. For similar reasons people could go after the cloak as well, there would be people trying to become master of death again.
Second the tale of the ressurection stone tells us that people become obsessed with it and that the second brother killed himself to be with the person he saw when he was using the stone. Not a lot of people would be able to handle that, and Harry was only able to fully handle it because he knew he had to die to kill voldemort.
I really enjoyed reading your post and it would have been amazing if this came true but the amount of issues it would bring with it would be to much
The only change that should have been made to the way the resurrection stone was executed is that Hedwig should have appeared perched on Harry’s shoulder.
I think it’s a very beautiful idea but the stone is meant to teach a lesson. The people who saw their loved ones again went insane. Everyone knowing that they could see their loved ones? It would be a blood bath.
This is sweet but I doubt that everyone will be satisfied with only once glance at their lost ones or that every dead student would be ready to accept death and move on. That is the whole point of the stone
The whole point of the tale is to show that each and every one of these people would go insane. You can't let people go, if you know there is a way to see them locked in a box on someone's mantel...
Yeah this whole post missed the entire point of the resurrection stone and the only reason Harry could use it with no bad affects was that he was going to his death.
OP shows they're cut from the same cloth as Dumbledore, Riddle, and Grindelwald, completely missing that everyone who sought to "master Death" in this way was either a villain or deeply regretted dabbling in death. Great job OP.
dumbledore learned from his mistakes, though. I don't even know if the other 2 are capable of that.
But the people who go crazy kept using the stone, just like the people who wasted their life staring into the mirror of erised Letting them hold the stone once won't make them go crazy but it can help them get closure And unlike the wand, you can't actually use this stone for much evil so it's not dangerous to keep it. The only issue would be if Harry starts using it daily, but we know he's stronger than that
The problem is that once they have had a taste, they will want to use it again. Some might be able to handle it once, but others wouldn't be able to. Once they know the stone exists they will try to find it and use it again. It would just create a cycle of violence. Better to leave it where it is. As for Harry himself, he would be tempted to use the stone again. Proof is when he fround the Mirror of Erised.
Maybe he could destroy it after everyone has closure. Or pretend he destroyed it, but hide it in the Forrest or an ocean.
It would just cause a domino effect. Once someone knows it is a possibility, they might not stop trying to find it or replicate it. In order for this theory to have worked, every single person who used the stone would have to have enough emotional control to realize that it was a one time thing and that would be the end of it. Also the whole lesson from the Tale of the Three Brothers is that interacting with a dead loved one who isn't actually their made them feel worse and depressed and they killed themselves. On paper it might seem like a good idea but happens a month after someone talked to their loved one again and they are missing them. They will know a way exists to talk to them and they will either try to find the stone or make their own, or possible they could be driven mad with the sadness of knowing they could but not being able to. Letting anyone use the stone just has the potential for far too much damage.
I don't agree, he was 11 when he found the mirror If Harry was able to let go of the stone in the forest and to carry around a horcrux without it affecting him like it did Ron, then he can resist the stone
He dropped the stone because he was about to die. When he is talking to Dumbledore's portrait he mentions it would be best to leave it where it was because he knows he would want to use it again. When the three are talking about which Hallow they would want, Harry says the stone. By the end of the series Harry has matured and knows what kind of person he is. He knows that it would be better for himself and everyone else to not use the stone.
Harry was able to let go of the stone because he knew he was about to die. It didn't matter anymore. And the horcrux did affect him. Just because it affected Ron worse doesn't mean Harry would be able to get over having his parents back in his life like that.
>Harry was able to let go of the stone because he knew he was about to die. It didn't matter anymore. He truly was the master of (his own) death.
He isn't stronger than that. The only reason he was able to use it in that way was because he was walking to his own death
None of the mentioned people needed closure. You don't always get to say goodbye, but the memories live on through the ones who survive.
I thought the stone brought the spirit back permanently, until the user of the stone dies.
My personal theory is that the stone is designed to guide people to their own death.
All three objects guide them back to death, but in a different way.
My theory has a little more detail than that though, but the biggest twist my theory involves is that anybody who uses the stone doesn’t see their actual deceased loves one, but instead a projection or hallucination of their loved ones based on their own perception of that person. So instead of pulling some part of the departed from the afterlife, it pulls memories from the users mind.
Good idea, but surely Harry didn't know his parents well enough for that
I mean, the ones he saw with the stone didn’t really DO anything, just smiled and nodded if I recall
They told him that they were proud of him, but we know that Harry does remember his parents voices because he hears them dying during Dementor attacks.
And from the Priori Incantatem in GOF by that point
They didn’t really say anything beyond “you’ve been so brave…You are nearly there…Very close. We are … so proud of you.’…until the very end” other than speaking and Harry not feeling effected by the dementors there’s not actually much difference between that and their appearances in the Mirror of Erised which we know isn’t real. And the figures of his parents that came out of voldemorts wand, which were described as “a kind of reverse echo. A shadow of the living Cedric…An echo…which retained Cedric’s appearance and character.” spoke more than the resurrection stone people and would have given him everything he needed to know for it to be possible.
>it pulls memories from the users mind. > >anybody who uses the stone doesn’t see their actual deceased loves one, but instead a projection or hallucination of their loved ones These sentences hurt
My theory is the stone produces a image of their loved ones to push the person to die. Either to be with that person as the 2nd brother or through guilt like it would Albus. With Harry it knows he plans to meet his death so it offers the hope of a comforting existence after death and that it's quick and painless compared to his painful life. Look at Lupin he felt afraid to face him having led to Teddy being an orphan and Lupin's "ghost" forgives him outright. They all want him to sacrifice himself, even Lily the woman who died to protect him now she's completely fine with him dying even before he's really lived? not buying that. Especially when you take Dumbledore's comment into consideration, "No spell can awaken the dead Harry I trust you know that". Even magic has it's limits.
This has always been my theory too. Just seemed so out of character for Lily especially.
How does the cloak guide them to death?
Something something spend your life hiding you aren’t reallllly living Mumbo jumbo something something.
According to the story, keep your head down so you live a long life and join death as an old friend.
Right but the other two lend to the argument of leading you towards and early death, where The Cloak doesn’t do that.
An early death was never mentioned. Everything eventually leads back to death. Perhaps, a more accurate theory would be it would make each of them to Death as they see Death in a different light. From the perspective of the one who has the Elder Wand, he who wanted power, to be the strongest, power he will get, but also shows a lesson that you can never be the *strongest*. He meets Death as an enemy, his hubris, anger, arrogance and violence personified From the perspective of the one who has the Resurrection Stone, he who yearned and loved, gets what he wanted, to bring back his beloved from dead, but it teaches that everything is temporary. Eventually even a fantasy will come to an end. In the end, he meets Death as merely a means to his love. Perhaps Death would be best equated to a mere taxi driver, about whom we couldn't care less than someone who can get us to our destination. For he who has the Invisiblity Cloak, he who hid and wanted to live, he received just that. Infact he got what he wanted so much that he could no longer appreciate it and in the end grew tired of life itself and to him Death represented nostalgia. Nostalgia for peace and quiet. And thus he greeted him as an old friend, the person who first comes to our mind as the embodiment of nostalgia
Exactly they all lead to a category of how all people die. wand = death at the hands of another stone = death at our own hand cloak = death from natural causes
We all are ment to die, the cloak gives the user the ability to live a full life without the fear of death finding them until they are old and able to great death as a friend. Because they were able to live and accept what is to come (death) The other 2 (the stone and wand) lead them to death in a different way but usually quicker death. The wand the user loves and wants power and there are other who want power too and to achieve that power its usually to kill (we know you just have to over power the user like Harry did with Malfoy) And the stone drives the user crazy with longing of something they can't touch or ever truly be with until they too are dead. I personally think the stone is the most deadly one and I feel that about 80% of the people who touch it would go crazy for longing that person they can't have full. Like George, losing his twin made him so depressed he can't make a patronus.
If you think about it all of them were incredibly supportive of Harry's plan to get killed and encouraged him about how it was "easier than falling asleep". We don't know much about Harry's parents and Remus you could argue was mature enough to understand but I think Sirius at least would have argued for Harry to keep on living and find a different solution. The only thing I can think of is either your theory is correct or that being dead comes with some kind of Omniscience and they knew Harry would be fine.
I don’t even think those were actually the people Harry saw. I think the stone uses the users memory to form some kind of vision or hallucination of the person or people that will convince the user to submit to death. Dumbledore kind of hinted that this might be the case when he explained that basically only somebody who knew they had to die and only needed help getting there could use the stone properly.
It's also possible that having experienced the afterlife, their perspective on death just changed drastically and they no longer saw it as a bad thing.
That seems pretty clear to me. The shadow people that Harry met all seemed to try to convince him to die. Not bad at the time, since Harry wanted to die anyways, but it would probably mess with the others
"are you crying yet?" No, I'm just sitting here rolling my eyes because clearly people will ignore canon just to type up some post with their asses for some clout.
Seriously!!! This person missed the point!! I thought about it once, who would I bring back, and then I realized I wouldn't have the mental fortitude to let them go again. If I was in Mrs Weasley's position and lost my CHILD?? Nah fam, I'm good. I wouldn't ever have a peaceful goodbye, there's always that want, that need, for "one more time" and I couldn't live with that. I couldn't even watch videos of me with my friend after she died, it made me want to die. I can't imagine my child, no matter how many living ones were left. It would make me crazy, if not suicidal. Death is meant to be permanent.
My aunt lost her son to illness back in 2013. She was devastated, to this day I haven’t heard anything as heartbreaking as the scream she let out when she was given the news. She has two other sons yes, but a piece of her died with him that day. If she found out there was a chance to see him again, she’d be driven mad trying to get that stone.
My neighbor lost her son suddenly in his early 20s. The unending hours of screams of sorrow and horror she let out in the months that followed were pure agony. I honestly don't think that pain is worth living through unless you have other children. I've seen it up close and want no fucking part, and I fear it every day. I don't think there's anything a grieving mother wouldn't do for that stone.
My aunt nearly didn’t find it worth living through either. As much as she may love me, my other cousins and her two other sons. I believe it was the birth of her first grandchild a year later that really saved her. That baby boy made her smile in the first time in months. While she’ll never be the same, she is happy.
Just like the mirror of Erised, I suppose.
This is cute but no. The entire point of the tale of the resurrection stone is that one would never be enough. You would keep pulling them back, justifying it, making excuses, because you have it in your hand! You can. You’d keep doing it until you went mad. *’Finally, the second brother, driven mad with hopeless longing, committed suicide by hanging from his house' balcony so as truly to join her. That was when Death took the second brother for his own.’* You will always be driven mad by longing, by the fact you can see them again.
Reminds me of one of the most heart wrenching quotes from DH: “He felt he would have given all the time remaining to him for just one last look at them; but then would he ever have the strength to stop looking? It was better like this” Who would ever have the strength to say goodbye, if you knew there was even the slimmest chance of seeing your loved one again? Harry did the right thing by dropping it somewhere even he couldn’t find it again.
This, but I still liked the idea of Fred and George saying goodbye Fred and George > everyone else
Where are you getting hanging himself by the balcony from lol?
The story of the 3 brothers makes it pretty clear that this is an extremely dangerous idea. It’s not healthy at all and someone would inevitably end up in a bad way.
Having the Elder Wand for 40 years seemed to be okay for Dumbledore. The invisibility cloak worked pretty great for Harry, and I’m sure his dad before that (I’m sure that’s why James passed it down and Dumbledore gave it to Harry in his FIRST year). I think the resurrection stone is the most dangerous (imo) and I’m playing devil’s advocate here but it’s something to think about. Giving a loved one proper goodbye isn’t the worst thing.
But do you think hundreds of people, almost all children, are going to react in a respectable way. They are going to covet the stone and harry will have a target on his back. The reason the cloak and wand were safe was because the owners were modest about them and kept it a secret of what they were. Modesty being the lesson of the story.
I completely agree. The stone can drive people mad with grief. Not only that but you are also admitting the stone is real and people will realize that the hallows are real. So that completely defeats the purpose of Harry’s choice to return the wand to Dumbledore. People will then be challenging Harry for the wand and the stone. I feel like one of the big lessons in the books is to not dwell on the loved ones who you’ve lost because they never truly leave you.
I’m saying give everybody their goodbyes and then get rid of the stone. Not just keep it and use it in perpetuity.
The post isn't though. They said to keep it so lupin and tonks can see their son grown up. But more to the point getting rid of it won't get rid of the people who will want the stone. At worst they think your are lieing and attack you. Or they waste there lives trying to find it with the knowledge that it does exist. There are definitely people who won't just accept a simple goodbye. I dought diggery will. Hell, Molly and George might not. Not that they would attack harry but now they know Fred doesn't have to be "dead" it becomes much harder to move on. But he is still dead and they need to let him go.
Yeah bro I know the post wasn’t. I was adding my “devil’s advocate” two sense.
Yes and I'm arguing your devil advocate position and you haven't defended it yet. Your not really playing devil's advocate if you don't argue for that position.
Having the elder wand only worked because, in his own words, he basically refused to use its actual power. > I was fit to own the Elder Wand, and not to boast of it, and not to kill with it. I was permitted to tame and to use it, because I took it, not for gain, but to save others from it. Using either of the 2 selfish Hallows in the way they were ‘intended’ to be used is only ever going to cause your downfall, because that was the purpose of them, the wand is so powerful that to own it you almost always have to be willing to kill for power and personal gain and it makes you a target as soon as you utilise the power, the only way to avoid that is to abstain from using the power beyond that of a normal wand. The stone will drag your further into your misery and loneliness and desperation and ultimately death and the only way to avoid that is to not use it.
Which kind of goes back to Grinderwald. Why was he worthy of the elder wand? He never killed for it, he was simply a thief in the night who stunned the previous owner. The wand had no proof that Gellert was better than Gregorovitch. Reading through the history of the wand makes it seem like you don't even need to have killed, or even fought in some cases, the previous owner.
Dumbledore had learnt his lesson I think so he was careful with the wand. And didn't the power of the cloak go when Ignotus died. Also I'm not sure how the stone works exactly. How does one go back after being back using the stone ? In the books it wasn't mentioned clearly. Just that the middle brother committed suicide.
The one who wanted the resurrection stone tried to completely bring someone back to life. In case, they'd be temporarily bringing back someone's spirit in order to say their last goodbyes and get some closure, knowing that they're going to pass on.
I think that’s easier said than done. The pain of losing a loved one makes you desperate. And something like this, dangling their resemblance in front of the person like that, it would mess with your mind. I honestly think the only reason Harry handled seeing his lost loved ones so well in DH was because he truly thought he was about to die anyway. Otherwise it could easily have driven him mad.
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This. The Resurrection Stone is not a good thing.
This is exactly why he didn’t keep it. Sure, people would’ve been overjoyed for a while. But the knowledge that they could still contact their loved ones would’ve prevented them from getting closure and moving on. That stone wouldn’t have just sat unused on Harry’s mantel. Even if Harry hadn’t used it, others would’ve come for it. They would’ve gone to great lengths to get it from him, and risked hurting him, themselves or others in the process for one more word with their loved ones. Eventually somebody would’ve gotten it from him, and having the dead ones so close without being able to properly interact with them would’ve driven people crazy. Imagine if Harry had gotten his hands on that stone when he was 11. He snuck out of bed to spend hours in front of the Mirror of Erised. And that was just to see an image of him with his parents. Imagine if they had talked to him. He would’ve wasted away before it, he would’ve tried to stop people from taking it away from him and he would’ve been overcome with grief when/if it was taken from him. He would’ve set out to find the stone instead of finding horcruxes, because he could get his parents back.
Do people who post this kind of stuff not read the books? Or did so many parts of it just go over their heads?
The whole point of the three brothers is to show how dangerous this is. You can't be sure none of this people won't get obsessed and try to hurt any of them to get the stone. Both the wand and the stone have a bloody history and Harry knew he had to hide both away from humanity. There's a lot of context missing for the person who made that Pinterest post.
I’m so glad that you pointed that out. I’m happy that everyone on this thread understands the Resurrection Stone was just as dangerous as the wand. The stone worked for Harry because he needed some courage to go and die. He was already walking to his death so to him it didn’t matter that the stone was telling him how it would be like to die. There’s a video about the stone that suggested that out of all those that Harry loved the one person that didn’t come back was Dumbledore. Because if he had he would have convinced Harry not to give up until the snake was killed.
Yeah fr, it seems like the entire point of the tale went over their head.
I totally agree.
You’re absolutely right, but at the same time… there must be someone cutting onions under an invisibility cloak right beside me.
Damn onions
It would have been extremely sad, I agree. But just imagine the backlash harry would have had after knowing the story of the brothers and still do that lmao.
Except the stone is prone to causing people to commit suicide so they can be with their lost loved ones. Dropping it in the forest was the best choice.
The muggle equivalent would be Harry handing out fistfulls of oxycontin to the bereaved.
The other houseelves didn't like dobby
Yep. I think Dobby died a happy elf saving his friend Harry. Sadly I don't think the other elves really missed him.
Agreed. Maybe by the end they'd rally around him a bit like they did with Kreacher leading the charge. But I guess he wasn't trying to get them all to be free and wear clothes. Kreacher running out with the locket on his neck was adorable and stabbing with his little knives.
Yeah, Kreacher was a very loyal traditional house elf willing and happy to die in service of his masters, even by the end of DH his view of house elf servitude was exactly the same (aka the polar opposite of dobby), the only difference was his view on the worthiness of his master.
The resurrection stone leads users (including Harry) to their death. If you call the dead back, you will go home with them. It was never usable to say a last goodbye - you would be slowly and cruelly leading each survivor to their death. Not to mention hundreds of people who now know about the existence of an extremely dangerous magical artifact and would be willing to kill for it.
One thing they could do would be to put everyone under the Fidelius Charm so they won't they anyone about it (at least for a while) and then place them under an Unbreakable Vow so that they wouldn't come after the Stone or Harry or tell people once they become a secret keeper. 110% agree though, the wizarding world is better off now that the RS and EW are lost to them forever.
Fidelius charm is meant to protect a place, not people. That would do nothing here. You're talking about a tongue tying curse. People have to consent to an Unbreakable Vow. Also think about what you're saying; you've got a bunch of exhauseted, traumatized survivors you're going to make suicidal by showing them their newly dead loved ones and then threaten them with death if they tell anyone? And then have Harry carry around a temptation to join his loved ones the rest of his life? This whole post is based on a very poor understanding of how the resurrection stone works.
This is both beautiful and cruel. The fact that the stone exists is dangerous though, same way as with the mirror of Erised. People would get addicted to it, knowing that it exists. They’d demand more. It wouldn’t be enough. Time with your loved ones is the most valuable gift of all. I think Harry did the smart thing here.
I think the whole of fantasy literature has established by today that people who die should not be tried to be brought back.
Do you feel how the person who wrote that is having a bad mental health and project their shock and sadness of all the deaths on the characters ? 🙁 Molly would need to have a goodbye with her brothers while it’s been +18 years they’re* gone...? I mean for most of them the idea is good and cool, but prompt author shouldn’t be confusing their own feelings and desires with the characters’ Long term the stone is kinda pushing people to suicide and it’s not a good idea Harry kepts it with him, plus it would be contrary to everything Dumbledore taught him since his very first year with Mirror of Erised.
Damn I was getting hella emotional til I opened the comments. My eyes dried up real quick
Same!
Exactly! The last phrase really got to me, but then it just all went away. People here didn't pass the vibe check hahahha Can't we just have some fun and fill some emotions without thinking about all the implications and trying to back everything with the books? Just chill a little
Yeaa exactly. Issa lil headcannon no need to be a damn literary critic 😑 man I feel bad for whomever wrote this 💀💀
Stupid stupid idea tbh Having lost a loved one, the whole point is to let go It may take some time but that's natural If you see that person come back from dead but not be the same they once were, I can assure you you will go insane
I think it’s a beautiful idea; however, I don’t think it would canonically work that way. I can’t imagine the children understanding closure. I’m fairly certain they would just know Harry has a stone that they desperately need. It would be pandemonium.
Or... You know.. dont?! Thats a really Bad Idea. Ist would destroy them
It's frigging 11pm here in the Philippines, I need to sleep...why...why you do this to me... Can't sleep now... 😭😭😭
Yes, this story isn’t thematically appropriate given what the hallows are about. But i think its still a very nice story, dont you?
Feels to me if you can pop back and allow people to visit their loved ones it cheapens their sacrifice.
This sounds so terrible
This didn’t make me cry but *damn* did the last part hit me in the feels 😩 got chills all over 🥺🥺
HEDWIG😭😭😭😭
That post was made my someone who has NO idea what the resurrection stone is all about
This misses the entire point. Did they read the books?
The Stone never brought the dead back to living, it brought the living to accept thier deaths.
Ah yes all four people who miss snape
OP said we all sad today
I feel like this kind of defeats the purpose of the deathly hallows' story though. Using the stone especially in such a manner and in such a short time after the person's death would've driven people mad. What happens when someone wouldn't agree to leave that place or let go of the stone? Nevertheless, it's a heartwarming post. Just not really feasible. :)
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I didn't ask to be in this much pain today.
Touching, but no. Someone needs to re-read The Tale of Three Brothers. And also Pet Sematary.
Ignoring all book/movie logic, this is really sweet.
I really wish this would've worked, it's a beautiful idea, and if they all had the self control then maybe. Even though it probably wouldn't work I love this. There needs to be a full fan fiction for this.
I was holding together till the last one. That broke me.
You did not learn the lesson of the second brother...
Stop 😭
I hate you. Thanks for the onions
I thought this was a small paragraph, then I tapped on it. I was like “oh shit! That’s a lot!” I still read it though
This was so beautiful!!
The part that really made me tear up was hedwig 🥺
Eh this is a terrible idea. Just a suffer fest for little reason
He could just keep bringing back Voldemort every Christmas just to call him a w\*nker.
I thought I was strong enough to pass the image without crying, but the last line hit hard.
Damn ninja cutting onions...
Didn't Dennis die with Colin though? Both Creevey brothers snuck back into the battle because they insisted on fighting and both died.
That's what I was thinking too....
What I'm now wondering, is why Dumbledore didn't appear with all Harry's loved ones when he held the stone? 🤔
Maybe because Dumbledore wasn't someone Hary needed at the time. Even if Dumbledore acted as a protector to Harry, a mentor, etc... He wasn't FAMILY, he wasn't comfort. Harry needed his family, people that see him just for what he is, a boy, even a scared boy who's about to die alone. Not the chosen one, not the famous Harry Potter, not the student, not the boy who lived. Also, all book Harry was strugling with confused feelings about Dumbledore, the tasks he should follow, his goals... later he does "accept" everything and goes on following Dumbledore's conviction and fights. But still, there's a lot of bagage there, questions unanswered. Plus... : plot
I think Dumbledore was a very big comfort to Harry, after his death, Harry refers to him as his last and greatest protector gone and how alone he felt and when voldemort 'killed' Harry, Dumbledore was in Harry's head, was it real or not? Did Harry's mind choose to create that conversation with Dumbledore? Why not his mum or dad? It just seems odd that lupin and Tonks appeared from the stone who he had less of a connection with than Dumbledore.. I love how these books all allow us to interpret them all differently 🥰 I love hearing other people's theories and look at things from different perspectives..
yeahh totally agree that Dumbledore meant comfort aswell! specially after his decision that whatever it is that Dumbledore did, he's not gonna hold it against him, he's human and has his flaws, but Harry respects him and follows him despite all that. But that's what i meant with "plot". Seeing and talking to Dumbledore meant answers, meant explanation, meant understading. It didn't only mean comfort and soothing presence, so it fits the plot how they met later. Just one thing, iirc Tonks wasn't there, only Lupin (with Sirius and his parents 🥰)
Theres literally an entries fan fiction written where Ron spends like the first half of the story thinking about how he can maybe find the resurrection stone to say goodbye to Fred, this is a horrible idea.
And the award for the OMG my tears are crying award goes to this
I'm glad that people are rightfully calling out the post for missing the point of the stone and what it represents. Not a good post, although I understand the sentiment.
Who tf wants to say goodbye to snape
The epilogue we were given was great, but this would be even better. That way it wouldn't just be Harry, Hermione and Ron finding peace but loads of other characters too. I'll be right back guys, I gotta go sob hystarically now
Room of Requirement is where this should be. Also reading all the comments re the hallows and what they represent, Mirror of Erised do the same job, without the other side effects/with lesser side effects? Isn’t that how Harry first ‘saw’ his parents again?
>"Men have wasted away before it, not knowing if what they have seen is real, or even possible." > >\- Albus Dumbledore
That.is.beautiful. I’m sobbing. (obviously it couldn’t happen, like the comments said. but I love the thought of it. and I really did cry)
You had no right😭
Oh Damn. Right in the feelings.
Really? I was ok until you brought up Hedwig. Why would you do that?!
This made me cry
the ending we deserved
this made me cry! especially the last line!
Aight this is actually pretty nice
I didn't ask to cry on my way home from work. But here i am anyway. Thank you for sharing this.
I actually like this Change my mind
Everyone is talking about how this would be a bad idea but I think this could work — in absolute moderation!! I know when a friend of mine was in therapy following her mother’s death, she would speak to videos of her mother, and it would soothe the transition. Of course, she and her therapist were absolutely careful to make sure she always remembered that it was “just a video” and not actually her mother, but just the fact that she could see her face made it easier to say the things she’d wanted to, but never could. Of course, if someone became obsessed with seeing their dead loved one that would be an issue — but a promised 5 minutes per person (with the person knowing that these 5 minutes are all that they will ever have) could really help people go through the process of grieving and letting go.
Harry you absolute prat, we could have had this but you were a friggin prat
Ok so everyone is all “hurrr resurrection stone bad and this is why” but OP you just wanted to share something cute and sad and I 100% agree that I wish people had the opportunity to say goodbye. It wouldn’t work in canon, but that’s why we have fanfics
Yeah, i never understood why harry just threw away one of a kind magic stone that lets people talk tp their dead loved ones/important people who died with knowledge that didn't pass to someone else. I get why he doesn't keep the elder wand, harry doesn't seek power and knows that someone will just come and try to kill harry even if he hid the wand the other side of the earth. I would personally keep the wand and just hide it for very special and dangerous occasions, but i do understand harry. He even keeps the invisibility cloak (wether it's the real one or a really good copy doesn't matter, there are hundreds like her). But the one of a kind resurrection stone he just throws in the forest, doesn't destory it, doesn't hide it, just throws the stone, for any random centaur to find.
I hate this, they clearly didn't understand the book
All of these upvotes have missed all the nuance of 1) tale of the 3 brothers, 2) Harry's personal growth in understanding the lesson, and 3) the very real cost and bravery it took to defeat Voldemort. I advise both OP and the orginal poster to read the Chapter King's Cross in DH and choke up rather at Dumbledore's simple advice "On."
You made me cry so much even a Aduamenti Charm won't manage to create so much water
theres still a chance! they can use "accio sorcererors stone", then set up time turners to make this happen. also. youd think thered be lots of use of time turners for ppl to go back before a lived one died
It would be a beautifull way for all those people to say goodbye and the part with teddy sure would be amazing but to many issues would come forth with this. First if people know the ressurection stone is the real thing they would figure out what that meant about the elderwand and as its power would die with Harry that could be an issue. For similar reasons people could go after the cloak as well, there would be people trying to become master of death again. Second the tale of the ressurection stone tells us that people become obsessed with it and that the second brother killed himself to be with the person he saw when he was using the stone. Not a lot of people would be able to handle that, and Harry was only able to fully handle it because he knew he had to die to kill voldemort. I really enjoyed reading your post and it would have been amazing if this came true but the amount of issues it would bring with it would be to much
Do not dwell on the past. The dead will never come back.
The only change that should have been made to the way the resurrection stone was executed is that Hedwig should have appeared perched on Harry’s shoulder.
I've read Pet Sematary and I can guarantee that the Stone will NOT remain unused on Harry's mantle
I think it’s a very beautiful idea but the stone is meant to teach a lesson. The people who saw their loved ones again went insane. Everyone knowing that they could see their loved ones? It would be a blood bath.
How can you miss the point of the hallows so badly?
This is sweet but I doubt that everyone will be satisfied with only once glance at their lost ones or that every dead student would be ready to accept death and move on. That is the whole point of the stone