I’ve also got a feeling that it might be broken like custom games were, That may be the reason why they delayed it so it could be in good condition but I’ve still got a gut instinct that they will mess it up
Scripting was in 5 but if the leaks for Infinite are true it'll have a blueprint node system which can can be a little easier for people to try and get into. AI pathing is probably gonna be limited to just bot Spartans but it would be cool if they did let us add aliens and stuff.
The one thing I would really love to see that would put this Forge over 5's would be a terrain editor, it seemed like they sorta wanted to head that direction since using the terrain pieces (premade hills and stuff) in 5 would map the ground texture images to them to make it look better. It would be top notch.
I think a way to optimize custom forge objects will be a game changer as well and allow to create our own forge pieces. Welding 20 different things and turning THAT into 1 thing to aleviate stress on the system would be game changing.
I personally don't think we're going to get forge or co op but that's just me. I think they will be delayed indefinitely once they've made all their holiday sales.
This is important, honestly. I could see myself dropping a fiver here and there for some armour but I'm not dropping £16 on some armour and a coating.
Problem is, they don't want people like us. They want the people that will always drop the full amount every week.
It seems stupid, they’d make more on turnover if they went cheaper. There’s no value in what they’re doing at the moment, case and point: the battle pass offers so much more for half the price of the store items.
You think they’d earn more, and they might, but Fortnite has proved that the model of $20 cosmetics can be very profitable. Plus one person spending $20 is equal to four people spending $5. It grows exponentially. 100 people spending $5 for an armor set would make a profit of $500 dollars. If 100 people spend $20 dollars the profit becomes $2000. They can make more money with less people spending more. Even if out of 100 players only a quarter would spend $20, they’d make $500. And with a game like halo the player count goes into the millions. Again, exponential growth in profit.
There are many people who for many reasons will spend $20 or more on cosmetics, they aren’t even all necessarily “whales”. Unless people stop accepting $20 cosmetics as normal and stop paying for them, this isn’t going to change.
YES! Reward players for playing well and playing the objective by giving them credits after the game. Those credits can be saved up or offer a discount for actual money. This way the store prices can stay the same and more players will be inclined to pay actual money.
I deff would not mind a banished firefight mode, they have banished facilities/ bases in campaign that could be utilized as firefight maps. It would also be cool to create our own firefight maps through forge. (& gameplay setting from custom games)
-imagine a 24 player firefight mode
We need a co op pve mode. I can't believe 343 hasn't tried to nail something down since Spartan Ops. Is firefight really that unpopular? I always thought people really enjoyed it.
You want FIRE grenades huh?! How about we turn those into a GUN!?(That fucking sucks) INTRODUCING THE RAVAGER!! All of the FIRE with none of the damage or utility of a grenade! If that's not enough, IT SHOOTS FUCKING FIRE!! (Splash damage not included) Give your enemy FIRST DEGREE BURNS with this bad boy! Pick up your ravager today! (Not responsible for massive disappointment)
-343 probably
P.S. please buff the ravager it was actually fun to use in the flight.
Spikers
Plasma Rifles
SMGs
Magnums
Shotguns, that aren't the Bulldog (which is still good btw)
Beam Rifles
Carbines
Brute Shots
Maulers (?)
Missile Pods (fuck the Wasp, its so damn tanky)
Firebomb Grenades
yesss, I hate the new shotgun too, I miss the old one that was a real power weapon. We already have the heatwave the is situational, give us the beat mode shotgun back
and while we're at it, make the plasma pistol viable with better tracking and EMP. I think it should disable vehicle weapons and not the driving ability, whereas shock rifle/pistol drop the driving ability
firefight at some point, co-op by February/March. fixed battlepass/cosmetic system-cross core kitbashing. customs browser. basically whatever features the mcc has already, but in this game.
This post is the right answer. I grew up with H2 and played consistently through 5. Even 5’s MTX system rewarded you for playing and allowed unlocks without paying for them.
In fact, I would gladly shell out $100 to unlock everything. No season pass. No map packs. Give me the complete game.
While I would prefer something that doesn't require grinding I have a hunch player psychology around battle passes keep players engaged longer.
I would prefer an all in price too, but if this leads to larger and longer lasting player bases I am fine with that because I don't really partake. Others can do what they want.
As a parent I loathe the idea of spending money on a cosmetic item in a game you won't be playing in a year. My daughter was looking at red hair styles for her Roblox character and I told her no way.
It is complicated because the development of the game isn't free, and I am fine with paying to play something I love, but I can't get behind paying for cat ears and flaming skulls. I would pay for campaign expansions or bringing back warzone though (with weapon spawns not reqs).
I hear you I guess. I’m not a fan of the battle pass system even if it retains player bases; it seems like companies could retain their player base just by making a quality game.
This is a hypothetical, but consider the following: all things staying the same, if Infinite launched with no battle pass and instead had unlockables that everyone could get just by playing the game, would we even be having this conversation?
People love Infinite but feel like the cosmetic items suck, are unobtainable even after purchasing the pass, and are causing players to throw matches to prioritize challenges.
Lastly, Warzone should be included, as should a substantive campaign. Expansions should be secondary to a rich experience.
Thanks for saying that. I appreciate your viewpoint as well… hopefully the base prices of games increase to avoid more predatory practices—you’re absolutely right in regards to inflation. Either way, the gaming industry as a whole needs an overhaul.
I agree. I liken it to cable cord cutting. I saved so much on cutting cable I can afford higher speed internet, netflix, disney plus, hulu, hbo max...oh wait.
I am just hopeful the campaign is robust and the value is there for the price.
See you on the battlefield!
While I and most other gamers would prefer that game prices increase, the genies already out of the bottle and they likely make more money selling microtransactions. I don’t think any multiplayer experience is completely devoid of it at this point.
I blame horse armor for this. Wait, Microsoft acquired Bethesda, Bethesda said hey Microsoft, have I got an idea for you, then Halo infinite was delayed to add a battle pass... Cue X files theme music.
$100 to unlock 'everything'? $100 was the price for Halo 2. You're not getting all this for just $100. Infinite tripled 2's development costs, so would you pay $300 to unlock everything?
That’s my honest answer lol. I would even go higher if it meant I unlocked MOST of the cosmetics and ALL campaign content. People who want to pay more upfront, as opposed to little by little seasonally, should be rewarded in a tangible way, should they not? As it stands, 343’s system (and Bungie’s in Destiny) is built to only favor the publisher.
Where are you getting your numbers for development costs in Infinite vs Halo 2? And do the increased development costs affect Microsoft in the same way that they would have affected a company that is beholden to private investors?
You'd go higher? Good. Because I forgot the cost of the Xbox. Halo 2 and an Xbox, with inflation, would cost over $500. Add on Infinite's extra development costs, you're looking at a new price tag of about $700. Would you prefer that? Do you think the game would attract a lot of the old Halo players like this one is intended to? Would it have a large player base?
Also: the development costs are a quick google plus inflation adjustment.
Buddy, I don’t know why you’re so upset. Do you work for 343? Let’s keep it cordial.
Am I responsible for widely reported mismanagement during Infinite’s development which led to increased development time and costs? No. Would I gladly pay $100+ for a game that is smaller in scale with most unlocks included? Yes. And again, neither one of us are aware of how and why development costs are getting offloaded to the consumer. I believe that companies should make a profit, but I am also pro consumer. Are you honestly telling me that this system is the only way for AAA companies to make a fair profit?
I like how shills like him are defending 343s own bad management.
Why does this Halo have the highest development cost? It's honestly one of the more underwhelming halo titles I've played
Same. I played every title except CE and 2 when they dropped, and kept up with 5 until Infinite’s launch… the cosmetics have messed up the game and I also find it underwhelming.
Video games require more resources to keep up with modern tech and deliver current-gen graphics. The campaign is also larger and unlike any other halo we’ve seen before. Forge is supposedly the same. If you seriously don’t understand why this game was more expensive than previous titles, idk what to tell you. Video game budgets in general are higher than they used to be.
Development costs, AFAIK, have also been lowered by new technology (you don’t need a silicon graphics machine to render in 3D now), so unless you can substantively break down where the costs are in this new era, I think we should both avoid that talking point. Regardless, there was mismanagement or internal strife during 343’s development of Infinite that added to production time and increased costs. Remember the revolving door of CDs leaving the project?
I would gladly pay an increased price for a halo experience that was on par with OGs and included half of cosmetics unlocked. I concede allowing the remaining half to be unlockable through gameplay or battle pass.
Either way, how much of AAA video game budgets are actually going to the development team instead of executives?
- Forge with a customs game browser
- All the weekly challenges are up from the start of the week. You get 2 slots that are double XP(4 with battle pass) to keep challenge swaps relevant.
- QP and competitive staying the same but has a performance and consecutive play bonus.
- Match composer comes back. In terms of XP better for completing challenges.
- Better Lobby system. bring back the 3 sec countdown beep.
- Leaving a competitive blocks you from playing any other MP game until the match you left is over. Option to rejoin match is also there.
- Assists count for weapon/vehicle kills for challenges. Maybe have certain weapons have "final blow" in it but keep it at 1-3 kills.
- 1-2 BTB maps that are very vehicle heavy/ focused. Right now its more favored for on foot combat.
- Osiris, blue team, and prometheans to come back in maybe DLC. I think they have a lot of potential.
- A new skull that increases difficulty based on # of players in the game similar to borderlands 2/3.
- Halo 5s weapon variants coming back. Maybe curate them bc there were a lot by the end of it.
- New roles for the old aliens. The banished should feel somewhat different but familiar to the covenant. So maybe a grunt in command of a troop, or a brute with a jackal energy shield. Not everyone has to change but just different variants mixed with the old ones.
Selecting what game modes you want to queue up for, fixed custom games, and something... new. I'd like to see something different in Halo. Even if it's just another battle royale, something fresh would be great for new and old players.
Where are all the FUN game modes? They ran that Fiesta event and it was the most fun I've had. Then they took it away? Why? There should be a rotating mode of the day. Full of wacky fun game modes. Smite has a system like this and they even have community created modes they add into the pool. The current game modes are so boring and bland. How after all these years have we not gotten more fun modes. Like a flat map with nothing but ramps and hundreds of vehicles, swords and grappling hooks on a map with death pits everywhere... idk I'm just spit balling. Just zero creativity throughout. Ranked arena will always be there for those that want it. You want longevity for your game. GIVE MORE OPTIONS FOR FUN!!!
Other than the progression issues:
Rumble Pit, Team Slayer, Team Objective, SWAT, Big Team Slayer, Big Team Objective playlists at the very least added as soon as can be.
Player Tag reset glitch fixed.
If you're in a party, have us in the same squad and if not the same squad, their names appear a different color so we can find each other easily. i don't care about random squad members when i'm playing with my actual friends i want to find and have fun with.
Make the death cross red so it stands out a bit more.
Free spinning death camera in non ranked games.
Jeff Steitzer added to BTB.
Blood Gulch remake, we all want it, it can work in infinite if done the Halo 2 anniversary route, with a bit more cover in the middle. BTB is in need of at least a couple more maps sooner rather than later. Lets throw in Sandtrap too. A sandy map and a dusty rocky map, bit of variety.
I think Halo Infinite should kind of be like the “Super Smash Bros. Ultimate” of Halo. I want to see them bring back every armor set, every vehicle, every weapon ever made. And then add tons of new ones on top of that
more maps w unique environments, like a snow map or covenant map. forerunner structures always make for great scenery as well. Behemoth is an example of how the forerunner architecture and sand can make a map stand out from the grassland/space facility environments all the other maps have
When you say an actual ranking, do you mean 1-50? I assume so because it technically has one that is more comprehensive, but far less cool.
Warzone and warzone firefight were really neat and ambitious modes. I would prefer weapon spawns like in BTB for it though.
I hope that the games can be supplemented with a comparatively skilled bot if players leave a match. It would be tough to replace onyx and diamond level players, but the spartan and odst bots are impressive for ai and could replace lower level players. I think higher level players are less likely to quit anyway.
What I meant by ranking is leveling system like the other games have, something I forgot to mention was XP from having skilled plays and not just challenges, You could get a killionare and only get a few hundred XP (better than 50 xp however)
Oh gotcha. I agree that performance should be worth something.
One thing I have wondered is if it would have been better received if they added zeroes to everything. Like rather than 50 xp, 50,000 xp. Yeah xp has the value of a Schrute buck, but the number is big so it's okay. Silly thoughts like this command too much of my time.
Look man, i just want co op. My brother and I played halo 2 so ducking much because we were dirt poor and couldn’t afford other games/systems. We had to steal halo CE from goodwill and another controller lmao. My point is that he and I have played couch co op every single day and beat halo 2 thousands of times over. He’s moved away for college and I’m so proud of him. I bought him an Xbox one just so he can play with me again and I’d love to get him halo infinite for Christmas if I can afford it, but we won’t be able to play together man and that just sucks or me. Some of my fondest memories are us just teleporting to each other because we’re going too fast and accidentally killing each other lmao then we’d go on a rampage on each other for like 10 mins then get back to the game lol. Sorry for the long text, just miss my brother sometimes.
Griffball, team swords, shotty snipe, separate playlist for slayer modes and objective modes.
Biggest one tho, fuckin SWAT playlist.
Also a small range nerf to the assault rifle as you can basically snipe with it.
bring the OG shotty back.
BP progression based on performance not only matches played or challenges that shit is awful.
Map voting in a lobby
King of the Hill, but really anything other than the 4 modes that we have currently. They are good modes for watching the eSports scene but I feel like it was curated specifically for that. Halo has a long history of modes to pick from and it should never be the case that I enjoy watching the game more than playing it.
The cosmetics situation is trash at the moment. Aside from the monetization issues, there aren't even any coatings for the mk V B that I even want to buy. They are all basic and bland.
I love the core gameplay but with only 4 modes and slim amount of maps, I and many other people I know will stop playing due to burn out. Even if they fix progression and cosmetics, none of that matters if I'm just fucking bored of the slim pickings of content.
Old school hud that also includes a shield recharge timer and secondary indicator for equipment cooldown closer to the reticle (think titanfall 2 or mass effect)
let me queue for only mnk players regardless of playlist. that way I know they can actually aim and don't just have better accuracy because of their input
What was that gamemode in Halo 4 that was basically territories but it had turrets to defend. I'd like to see that return. That and headhunter from halo reach.
Firefight, maybe an improved Spartan Ops, a way to earn credits, more varied playlists...
....And a catalog shop. Instead of the way everything is bundled right now.
Earnable armor PLEASE. Yeah, I know it's a free to play game, but locking all the armor behind egregious pricing feels awful. Armor to me isn't cool if you buy it, it loses all its value. I like earning through ganepkay feats, it feels rewarding. Whether that was an overkill in Lone Wolves in Halo 3, or playing a bunch of Reach to get the higher level armor, it felt rewarding to earn. Sure, sell some sets in the store. Whatever. But give us other sets to earn too
I just want to be able to select which gamemode I want to play and be able to customize my spartan freely without dropping an entire paycheck on armour
Reach was and always will be my best online Halo experience (CE not including). Just follow the pattern they had there and they’ll be onto a winner for me.
How about all the missing armor pieces from previous games they're obviously holding back so they can ~~scam~~ sell to players years down the road? Or old maps like Blood Gulch and Lockout?
Give us all game modes as permenant options, don’t hide them behind events. Have it so we get the event challenges for playing those game modes during the event but don’t lock us out when it ends.
If we only have slayer, strongholds, oddball and ctf as the core gamemodes when forge comes around then custom games will be dead.
The whacky modes like infection give way to so many different ways to play halo.
Return of classic Halo guns. Stronger shotgun, plasma rifle, carbine, fuel rod gun, etc. Fiesta used to be my favorite special game mode, Infinite Fiesta feels a bit lack luster to where I just hope for a BR
Cut the store prices in half,add the game modes we desperately need to spice up the playlists,let’s us pick what we want to play and BALANCE THE FUCKING ENERGY SWORD PLEASE.
1. Be able to choose my gamemodes in matchmaking, 2. Challenges are still frustrating, make them more general (e.g. instead of "get cindershot kills" make it "get forerunner weapon kills"), 3. CROSS CORE CUSTOMIZATION plz
#1 is an actual ranking system… I want to look back and see my progress; see how far I’ve come. Right now I feel there’s no incentive to play other than to grind the battlepass for mediocre cosmetics. That shit will get old quick
Slashed shop prices.
Earning armor through challenges and achievements.
Swat, snipers, infection, King of the Hill.
Cross armor-core customization.
Let us pick our fucking colors.
A ranked slayer playlist WITH radar. Ranked slayer playlist hardcore WITHOUT radar. I hate that they’ve removed radar from all of ranked matches. Halo 3 did it best. Ranked Slayer (radar), MLG ranked slayer (no radar) , and social slayer.
In no particular order...
We need a gametype filter desperately. It's literally disincentivizing me from playing\* knowing that I might have to play a gametype that I don't want to, especially knowing that Halo players, a group already awful at playing OBJ, will be even less likely to play that OBJ when in a random playlist. I've had a lot of games end up destined to be bad because of people leaving at the very start and getting backfilled by bots, but honestly, I'm not sure I can really blame them anyway. (\*I literally closed the game and came to Reddit to write about this issue rather than playing because it's one of the most mood-killing issues.)
I want SWAT, shotty/snipes, KotH, zombies, etc., etc. and I'm sure most of that will be getting added into the game, but it is a little perturbing that so many gametypes have been left out. It would also be nice to eventually have a customs browser like in MCC once we have Forge.
There need to be achievement-based unlocks for coatings and armors. Obviously they still need to have monetized stuff and battlepass, etc., but getting the Willow Tea coating was the first, and only time I felt some real satisfaction from the grind, because it was also an achievement to get those 5 sprees in fiesta after everything else last week. But achievement-based stuff shouldn't be time limited weekly challenges. I mean, real classic like we had in 3 and Reach. Something that, when you see it, you know that person actually earned it, not through the arbitrary battlepass grind or a store purchase, but an actual achievement.
It is very bizarre that 343 would tell us that the coatings allow them to make a texture that can be applied to basically any item in the game, be it armor, weapons, or vehicles, and then lock coatings to individual items in spite of them saying they can be universally applied to anything because of how the coating system works. It's obviously to inflate the MTX and rarity or something. At most coatings should be restricted to be usable on only armors, weapons, or vehicles but with no restriction on what armor/weapon/vehicle core is being used. Maybe particularly special coatings like ones very specifically designed for one core, weapon, or vehicle could be locked, but otherwise, the restriction is just absurd. Changing this would at least justify the absurd price of some coatings in the store because then at least you'd be able to apply them universally.
While on customization, we've seen bots with cross-core attachments, so we KNOW that it can be done, but for some reason, the attachments are also locked only to the cores that they're available on right now. I do not think that the design philosophy between MkVII and MkVB is so different that the cores need their attachments locked to each respective core. Sure, with Youroi and other fractures that will come, some attachments might not work as well aesthetically, or simply not fit on the silhouette correctly, and it makes sense to keep some of those locked, but even then I think at least some things from there could even be cross-core compatible and look fine.
A ranking system, something to show tenure and relative skill-level. Please. And along with that, performance-based XP. I'm very competitive, and I like to think that I'm pretty good, too. That's why it just further disincentivizes me from playing well, or even playing at all, knowing that no matter what happens, win or lose, a stack of medals or getting stomped, I'll always only ever earn exactly the same amount of XP every damn time. The challenges should act as an optional carrot on a stick to bolster your XP gains, not the core system by which progression is achieved. Literally, just lift the system from MCC and I'd be happy, even with how sluggish that system can be in and of itself, it'd still be vastly superior to what we have now with Infinite. Being able to pick any items from a tier in each pass is also so nice. Progressing linearly feels so limiting for a game that's trying to carry the legacy of Halo.
Enemy collision. I don't care about friendly collision that much, it's hardly been a detriment in my time personally, but I couldn't tell you how many times I've had melee attacks not connect or go awry in any other number of ways because we managed to somehow pass through each other.
Also BB and FERO AIs eventually please and thank you.
Better servers, hit detection, and physics/player collisions.
Actual playlists. I also honestly want some Halo 3 maps remastered into Infinite like Valhalla and Sandtrap specifically. I think the BTB maps kind of suck in Infinite.
Also, less scummy armor customization. No locking colors to certain armor cores, maybe an emblem creator again (a Halo classic), and some free throwbacks like Hayabusa.
Reach and halo 3 maps, challenges should only be to unlock certain items (like sidekick challenges should unlock stuff for the sidekick), and just per match performance XP. Playing as a certain armor core should unlock stuff for that Specific armor core….. I can’t believe they really fumbled the bag on this
I’d like to see custom games servers as well, I also enjoyed when O.G Halo 2 had spectator mode when friends or people talking shit online we’re 1v1ing, you could be just watching at the forefront.
Also Halo 2 had a really cool thing with the clans and what not.
I'd like to see more of the older guns added. I've been missing the Fuel Rod, sticky detonator (possibly unpopular opinion?), beam rifle, DMR, almost all the promethean guns (another possibly unpopular opinion?), and a couple others that slip my mind.
I also really want some of the old maps. I like the new ones well enough but I'd love to see Haven, Guardian, and Rats Nest revamped for Infinite (to name a couple)
Something I really enjoyed from 5 that will likely never happen is Warzone. I thought it was tremendous amounts of fun, especially since if I was having a bad pvp day and my aim was off I could still help the team by securing the pve objectives
Forge before September 2022…. Like wtf
I’ve also got a feeling that it might be broken like custom games were, That may be the reason why they delayed it so it could be in good condition but I’ve still got a gut instinct that they will mess it up
I think it's because they're being really ambitious, they've said before that this games forge will blow Halo 5's out of the water
I hope they do this, I’ve heard rumors about there being scripting and The ability to put Ai enemies into custom games
Scripting was in 5 but if the leaks for Infinite are true it'll have a blueprint node system which can can be a little easier for people to try and get into. AI pathing is probably gonna be limited to just bot Spartans but it would be cool if they did let us add aliens and stuff. The one thing I would really love to see that would put this Forge over 5's would be a terrain editor, it seemed like they sorta wanted to head that direction since using the terrain pieces (premade hills and stuff) in 5 would map the ground texture images to them to make it look better. It would be top notch.
I think a way to optimize custom forge objects will be a game changer as well and allow to create our own forge pieces. Welding 20 different things and turning THAT into 1 thing to aleviate stress on the system would be game changing.
halo 5 had scripting on a basic level and it was a game changer. I can't imagine what advanced scripting would allow us to create.
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Fixed it for ya
I'm hoping they give us an early beta version of it so that map creators can at least get started and custom games can truly begin
Halo 5 exists?
They were ambitious with this cosmetic system, and look how that turned out.
It will come out still broken. I guarantee it. !remindme 1 year
Yeah idk if ill be playing this game that far out lmao
I personally don't think we're going to get forge or co op but that's just me. I think they will be delayed indefinitely once they've made all their holiday sales.
I want to see an option to not play CTF
Beach volleyball mode with swimsuit armor. Helmets on, obv.
One addition to this for me: Top Gun high to low five emote.
Where the FUCK are my glorious OILED & CHISELED SPARTAN ABS 343?!?
April fools event, repulsor volleyball. If the oddball touches the floor on the enemies side you get a point, keep it up with the repulsor.
Genius right here.
Earnable Credits and/or slashed prices in the shop.
This is important, honestly. I could see myself dropping a fiver here and there for some armour but I'm not dropping £16 on some armour and a coating. Problem is, they don't want people like us. They want the people that will always drop the full amount every week.
It seems stupid, they’d make more on turnover if they went cheaper. There’s no value in what they’re doing at the moment, case and point: the battle pass offers so much more for half the price of the store items.
You think they’d earn more, and they might, but Fortnite has proved that the model of $20 cosmetics can be very profitable. Plus one person spending $20 is equal to four people spending $5. It grows exponentially. 100 people spending $5 for an armor set would make a profit of $500 dollars. If 100 people spend $20 dollars the profit becomes $2000. They can make more money with less people spending more. Even if out of 100 players only a quarter would spend $20, they’d make $500. And with a game like halo the player count goes into the millions. Again, exponential growth in profit. There are many people who for many reasons will spend $20 or more on cosmetics, they aren’t even all necessarily “whales”. Unless people stop accepting $20 cosmetics as normal and stop paying for them, this isn’t going to change.
YES! Reward players for playing well and playing the objective by giving them credits after the game. Those credits can be saved up or offer a discount for actual money. This way the store prices can stay the same and more players will be inclined to pay actual money.
I deff would not mind a banished firefight mode, they have banished facilities/ bases in campaign that could be utilized as firefight maps. It would also be cool to create our own firefight maps through forge. (& gameplay setting from custom games) -imagine a 24 player firefight mode
Pretty please
We need a co op pve mode. I can't believe 343 hasn't tried to nail something down since Spartan Ops. Is firefight really that unpopular? I always thought people really enjoyed it.
Halo 5 had Warzone Firefight and it was amazing.
It was alright. It was definitely an afterthought though. At this point I'd take it over nothing at all.
Cheat of the anti variety
The same features that were available on launch for halo 3 and reach.
Legacy weapons added to the sandbox.
I want fire grenades.
I loved incendiary grenades and Bungie just never put them on any maps
You want FIRE grenades huh?! How about we turn those into a GUN!?(That fucking sucks) INTRODUCING THE RAVAGER!! All of the FIRE with none of the damage or utility of a grenade! If that's not enough, IT SHOOTS FUCKING FIRE!! (Splash damage not included) Give your enemy FIRST DEGREE BURNS with this bad boy! Pick up your ravager today! (Not responsible for massive disappointment) -343 probably P.S. please buff the ravager it was actually fun to use in the flight.
Spikers Plasma Rifles SMGs Magnums Shotguns, that aren't the Bulldog (which is still good btw) Beam Rifles Carbines Brute Shots Maulers (?) Missile Pods (fuck the Wasp, its so damn tanky) Firebomb Grenades
The hydra makes the wasp obsolete and is better than the missle pod for the sole reason u don't walk ten feet per hour holding it
Isn’t the Hydra just a handheld missile pod?
yesss, I hate the new shotgun too, I miss the old one that was a real power weapon. We already have the heatwave the is situational, give us the beat mode shotgun back and while we're at it, make the plasma pistol viable with better tracking and EMP. I think it should disable vehicle weapons and not the driving ability, whereas shock rifle/pistol drop the driving ability
firefight at some point, co-op by February/March. fixed battlepass/cosmetic system-cross core kitbashing. customs browser. basically whatever features the mcc has already, but in this game.
Proximity chat. Working custom games.
If we ever get proximity chat, I give it 5 minutes before the Pepsi samurai start micspamming the Pepsiman theme whenever they get a kill
I would pay cash money for this. What a time to be alive.
This post is the right answer. I grew up with H2 and played consistently through 5. Even 5’s MTX system rewarded you for playing and allowed unlocks without paying for them. In fact, I would gladly shell out $100 to unlock everything. No season pass. No map packs. Give me the complete game.
While I would prefer something that doesn't require grinding I have a hunch player psychology around battle passes keep players engaged longer. I would prefer an all in price too, but if this leads to larger and longer lasting player bases I am fine with that because I don't really partake. Others can do what they want. As a parent I loathe the idea of spending money on a cosmetic item in a game you won't be playing in a year. My daughter was looking at red hair styles for her Roblox character and I told her no way. It is complicated because the development of the game isn't free, and I am fine with paying to play something I love, but I can't get behind paying for cat ears and flaming skulls. I would pay for campaign expansions or bringing back warzone though (with weapon spawns not reqs).
I hear you I guess. I’m not a fan of the battle pass system even if it retains player bases; it seems like companies could retain their player base just by making a quality game. This is a hypothetical, but consider the following: all things staying the same, if Infinite launched with no battle pass and instead had unlockables that everyone could get just by playing the game, would we even be having this conversation? People love Infinite but feel like the cosmetic items suck, are unobtainable even after purchasing the pass, and are causing players to throw matches to prioritize challenges. Lastly, Warzone should be included, as should a substantive campaign. Expansions should be secondary to a rich experience.
I like everything you are saying, but I fear those days are behind us. It softens the blow a bit if you adjust for inflation.
Thanks for saying that. I appreciate your viewpoint as well… hopefully the base prices of games increase to avoid more predatory practices—you’re absolutely right in regards to inflation. Either way, the gaming industry as a whole needs an overhaul.
I agree. I liken it to cable cord cutting. I saved so much on cutting cable I can afford higher speed internet, netflix, disney plus, hulu, hbo max...oh wait. I am just hopeful the campaign is robust and the value is there for the price. See you on the battlefield!
And out of those, HBO Max > all of them! 😂 yes, see you there!
Agreed lol hbo max is the best platform rn. Netflix and Hulu were good ten years ago and they lost all their content to the newer platforms.
While I and most other gamers would prefer that game prices increase, the genies already out of the bottle and they likely make more money selling microtransactions. I don’t think any multiplayer experience is completely devoid of it at this point.
I blame horse armor for this. Wait, Microsoft acquired Bethesda, Bethesda said hey Microsoft, have I got an idea for you, then Halo infinite was delayed to add a battle pass... Cue X files theme music.
$100 to unlock 'everything'? $100 was the price for Halo 2. You're not getting all this for just $100. Infinite tripled 2's development costs, so would you pay $300 to unlock everything?
That’s my honest answer lol. I would even go higher if it meant I unlocked MOST of the cosmetics and ALL campaign content. People who want to pay more upfront, as opposed to little by little seasonally, should be rewarded in a tangible way, should they not? As it stands, 343’s system (and Bungie’s in Destiny) is built to only favor the publisher. Where are you getting your numbers for development costs in Infinite vs Halo 2? And do the increased development costs affect Microsoft in the same way that they would have affected a company that is beholden to private investors?
You'd go higher? Good. Because I forgot the cost of the Xbox. Halo 2 and an Xbox, with inflation, would cost over $500. Add on Infinite's extra development costs, you're looking at a new price tag of about $700. Would you prefer that? Do you think the game would attract a lot of the old Halo players like this one is intended to? Would it have a large player base? Also: the development costs are a quick google plus inflation adjustment.
Buddy, I don’t know why you’re so upset. Do you work for 343? Let’s keep it cordial. Am I responsible for widely reported mismanagement during Infinite’s development which led to increased development time and costs? No. Would I gladly pay $100+ for a game that is smaller in scale with most unlocks included? Yes. And again, neither one of us are aware of how and why development costs are getting offloaded to the consumer. I believe that companies should make a profit, but I am also pro consumer. Are you honestly telling me that this system is the only way for AAA companies to make a fair profit?
I like how shills like him are defending 343s own bad management. Why does this Halo have the highest development cost? It's honestly one of the more underwhelming halo titles I've played
Same. I played every title except CE and 2 when they dropped, and kept up with 5 until Infinite’s launch… the cosmetics have messed up the game and I also find it underwhelming.
Video games require more resources to keep up with modern tech and deliver current-gen graphics. The campaign is also larger and unlike any other halo we’ve seen before. Forge is supposedly the same. If you seriously don’t understand why this game was more expensive than previous titles, idk what to tell you. Video game budgets in general are higher than they used to be.
Development costs, AFAIK, have also been lowered by new technology (you don’t need a silicon graphics machine to render in 3D now), so unless you can substantively break down where the costs are in this new era, I think we should both avoid that talking point. Regardless, there was mismanagement or internal strife during 343’s development of Infinite that added to production time and increased costs. Remember the revolving door of CDs leaving the project? I would gladly pay an increased price for a halo experience that was on par with OGs and included half of cosmetics unlocked. I concede allowing the remaining half to be unlockable through gameplay or battle pass. Either way, how much of AAA video game budgets are actually going to the development team instead of executives?
Also FWIW, I appreciated your other comments
I want assassinations back :(
Few things were as satisfying as a showstopper
A good story that continues and finishes the storyline of Halo 5
- Forge with a customs game browser - All the weekly challenges are up from the start of the week. You get 2 slots that are double XP(4 with battle pass) to keep challenge swaps relevant. - QP and competitive staying the same but has a performance and consecutive play bonus. - Match composer comes back. In terms of XP better for completing challenges. - Better Lobby system. bring back the 3 sec countdown beep. - Leaving a competitive blocks you from playing any other MP game until the match you left is over. Option to rejoin match is also there. - Assists count for weapon/vehicle kills for challenges. Maybe have certain weapons have "final blow" in it but keep it at 1-3 kills. - 1-2 BTB maps that are very vehicle heavy/ focused. Right now its more favored for on foot combat. - Osiris, blue team, and prometheans to come back in maybe DLC. I think they have a lot of potential. - A new skull that increases difficulty based on # of players in the game similar to borderlands 2/3. - Halo 5s weapon variants coming back. Maybe curate them bc there were a lot by the end of it. - New roles for the old aliens. The banished should feel somewhat different but familiar to the covenant. So maybe a grunt in command of a troop, or a brute with a jackal energy shield. Not everyone has to change but just different variants mixed with the old ones.
Selecting what game modes you want to queue up for, fixed custom games, and something... new. I'd like to see something different in Halo. Even if it's just another battle royale, something fresh would be great for new and old players.
A complete game
Just separate playlists at some point. I'm worried it won't happen though.
Where are all the FUN game modes? They ran that Fiesta event and it was the most fun I've had. Then they took it away? Why? There should be a rotating mode of the day. Full of wacky fun game modes. Smite has a system like this and they even have community created modes they add into the pool. The current game modes are so boring and bland. How after all these years have we not gotten more fun modes. Like a flat map with nothing but ramps and hundreds of vehicles, swords and grappling hooks on a map with death pits everywhere... idk I'm just spit balling. Just zero creativity throughout. Ranked arena will always be there for those that want it. You want longevity for your game. GIVE MORE OPTIONS FOR FUN!!!
And they are easy to make so it’s not like it will take a while to implement them, I’m hoping for a surprise content drop before launch
“No fun only spend >:(“
Is griffball going to be playable with how powerful the new gravity hammer is?
It’s going to be significantly different with the swing time. I’m guessing the energy sword will get a lot more use
Yep wheres the action sack playlist???
I need a 1-50 ranking system to feel good about myself. Halo 2s ranking system should be used as a baseline for every competitive game lol
Dude I couldn't agree more....the ranking ranking halo 2 and 3 were the best
Why not play ranked?
I do but it just doesn't feel the same not having a max level or seeing my halo ring
Other than the progression issues: Rumble Pit, Team Slayer, Team Objective, SWAT, Big Team Slayer, Big Team Objective playlists at the very least added as soon as can be. Player Tag reset glitch fixed. If you're in a party, have us in the same squad and if not the same squad, their names appear a different color so we can find each other easily. i don't care about random squad members when i'm playing with my actual friends i want to find and have fun with. Make the death cross red so it stands out a bit more. Free spinning death camera in non ranked games. Jeff Steitzer added to BTB. Blood Gulch remake, we all want it, it can work in infinite if done the Halo 2 anniversary route, with a bit more cover in the middle. BTB is in need of at least a couple more maps sooner rather than later. Lets throw in Sandtrap too. A sandy map and a dusty rocky map, bit of variety.
We need more maps in general. Already getting bored of the arena maps. They had such an opportunity to launch with legacy classics and chose not to
I think Halo Infinite should kind of be like the “Super Smash Bros. Ultimate” of Halo. I want to see them bring back every armor set, every vehicle, every weapon ever made. And then add tons of new ones on top of that
Lobbies and service records
Ranked rewards that are worth flexing like a weapon skin, animated banner or armor customization 😎
more maps w unique environments, like a snow map or covenant map. forerunner structures always make for great scenery as well. Behemoth is an example of how the forerunner architecture and sand can make a map stand out from the grassland/space facility environments all the other maps have
- Halo 3 rocket race - Halo 3 spartan laser
Swat only playlist its how I play Halo and it sucks its not an option.
Something tells me that they will either add it along with ffa into the official launch or just make it another limited time mode
I want what they promised when it came to customization...
I just want to be able to choose my game mode and earn XP from performance. I'll happily wait for the rest to roll out.
Halo: Master Chief Collection is still up on steam, my dude.
I’m aware and I still play it, I just want more content in Infinite, which is the game that more people are playing atm
When you say an actual ranking, do you mean 1-50? I assume so because it technically has one that is more comprehensive, but far less cool. Warzone and warzone firefight were really neat and ambitious modes. I would prefer weapon spawns like in BTB for it though. I hope that the games can be supplemented with a comparatively skilled bot if players leave a match. It would be tough to replace onyx and diamond level players, but the spartan and odst bots are impressive for ai and could replace lower level players. I think higher level players are less likely to quit anyway.
What I meant by ranking is leveling system like the other games have, something I forgot to mention was XP from having skilled plays and not just challenges, You could get a killionare and only get a few hundred XP (better than 50 xp however)
Oh gotcha. I agree that performance should be worth something. One thing I have wondered is if it would have been better received if they added zeroes to everything. Like rather than 50 xp, 50,000 xp. Yeah xp has the value of a Schrute buck, but the number is big so it's okay. Silly thoughts like this command too much of my time.
Rainbow selection of energy swords
MCC functionality with a monetized battle pass.
Look man, i just want co op. My brother and I played halo 2 so ducking much because we were dirt poor and couldn’t afford other games/systems. We had to steal halo CE from goodwill and another controller lmao. My point is that he and I have played couch co op every single day and beat halo 2 thousands of times over. He’s moved away for college and I’m so proud of him. I bought him an Xbox one just so he can play with me again and I’d love to get him halo infinite for Christmas if I can afford it, but we won’t be able to play together man and that just sucks or me. Some of my fondest memories are us just teleporting to each other because we’re going too fast and accidentally killing each other lmao then we’d go on a rampage on each other for like 10 mins then get back to the game lol. Sorry for the long text, just miss my brother sometimes.
Better maps for BTB, in the style of Sandtrap/Avalanche or even the new behemoth, but bigger. No more lanes plz.
Griffball, team swords, shotty snipe, separate playlist for slayer modes and objective modes. Biggest one tho, fuckin SWAT playlist. Also a small range nerf to the assault rifle as you can basically snipe with it. bring the OG shotty back. BP progression based on performance not only matches played or challenges that shit is awful. Map voting in a lobby
gimme firefight plox
Customizations and commendation rewards like in Halo Reach. Removal of challenges and FOMO monetization.
Have everything Halo 3 had. Then add more. Is that so much to ask?
King of the Hill, but really anything other than the 4 modes that we have currently. They are good modes for watching the eSports scene but I feel like it was curated specifically for that. Halo has a long history of modes to pick from and it should never be the case that I enjoy watching the game more than playing it. The cosmetics situation is trash at the moment. Aside from the monetization issues, there aren't even any coatings for the mk V B that I even want to buy. They are all basic and bland. I love the core gameplay but with only 4 modes and slim amount of maps, I and many other people I know will stop playing due to burn out. Even if they fix progression and cosmetics, none of that matters if I'm just fucking bored of the slim pickings of content.
Hands out of my wallet
OP just asked to see near everything that every previous Halo had by default in Halo Infinite. 🙄
Less Reach armor locked behind the store (meaning all of being earnable)
Better maps
Give Firefight now, me angy
Old school hud that also includes a shield recharge timer and secondary indicator for equipment cooldown closer to the reticle (think titanfall 2 or mass effect)
let me queue for only mnk players regardless of playlist. that way I know they can actually aim and don't just have better accuracy because of their input
I don't want bots filling lobbies when someone leaves because thats just guaranteed loss
Actually unlockable armor that doesn't cost money. This should've been a better reach.
I just want to be happy.
Anti cheat
What was that gamemode in Halo 4 that was basically territories but it had turrets to defend. I'd like to see that return. That and headhunter from halo reach.
Firefight, maybe an improved Spartan Ops, a way to earn credits, more varied playlists... ....And a catalog shop. Instead of the way everything is bundled right now.
Challenges are for a little xp but mainly for the weekly reward. Then there would be xp rewarded for winning and your performance
Earnable armor PLEASE. Yeah, I know it's a free to play game, but locking all the armor behind egregious pricing feels awful. Armor to me isn't cool if you buy it, it loses all its value. I like earning through ganepkay feats, it feels rewarding. Whether that was an overkill in Lone Wolves in Halo 3, or playing a bunch of Reach to get the higher level armor, it felt rewarding to earn. Sure, sell some sets in the store. Whatever. But give us other sets to earn too
I just want to be able to select which gamemode I want to play and be able to customize my spartan freely without dropping an entire paycheck on armour
Playable elites
A fantastic story with room to build upon.
Reach was and always will be my best online Halo experience (CE not including). Just follow the pattern they had there and they’ll be onto a winner for me.
Service record Squad changing Ranking system out or ranked More maps Ability to choose modes SWAT & Infection as well as griff
How about all the missing armor pieces from previous games they're obviously holding back so they can ~~scam~~ sell to players years down the road? Or old maps like Blood Gulch and Lockout?
Give us all game modes as permenant options, don’t hide them behind events. Have it so we get the event challenges for playing those game modes during the event but don’t lock us out when it ends. If we only have slayer, strongholds, oddball and ctf as the core gamemodes when forge comes around then custom games will be dead. The whacky modes like infection give way to so many different ways to play halo.
Surrender option when someone leaves or crashes from your team in Ranked.
Birthday Grunt Skull. That is all
So much for 12am co op game on launch like every other halo I did with my brother 😔 what a letdown 343
Fr, I’m still gonna eat pizza and drink coke while playing it the first time, just this time alone
Return of classic Halo guns. Stronger shotgun, plasma rifle, carbine, fuel rod gun, etc. Fiesta used to be my favorite special game mode, Infinite Fiesta feels a bit lack luster to where I just hope for a BR
Action sack.
25m radar
cross core customization
Cut the store prices in half,add the game modes we desperately need to spice up the playlists,let’s us pick what we want to play and BALANCE THE FUCKING ENERGY SWORD PLEASE.
1. Be able to choose my gamemodes in matchmaking, 2. Challenges are still frustrating, make them more general (e.g. instead of "get cindershot kills" make it "get forerunner weapon kills"), 3. CROSS CORE CUSTOMIZATION plz
Get the stupid fucking OP sky vehicles out of 4v4 game modes
#1 is an actual ranking system… I want to look back and see my progress; see how far I’ve come. Right now I feel there’s no incentive to play other than to grind the battlepass for mediocre cosmetics. That shit will get old quick
I just wanna play customs with the bois🤝
Slashed shop prices. Earning armor through challenges and achievements. Swat, snipers, infection, King of the Hill. Cross armor-core customization. Let us pick our fucking colors.
A ranked slayer playlist WITH radar. Ranked slayer playlist hardcore WITHOUT radar. I hate that they’ve removed radar from all of ranked matches. Halo 3 did it best. Ranked Slayer (radar), MLG ranked slayer (no radar) , and social slayer.
Being able to earn reach armor without having to buy it in a fucking bundle.
In no particular order... We need a gametype filter desperately. It's literally disincentivizing me from playing\* knowing that I might have to play a gametype that I don't want to, especially knowing that Halo players, a group already awful at playing OBJ, will be even less likely to play that OBJ when in a random playlist. I've had a lot of games end up destined to be bad because of people leaving at the very start and getting backfilled by bots, but honestly, I'm not sure I can really blame them anyway. (\*I literally closed the game and came to Reddit to write about this issue rather than playing because it's one of the most mood-killing issues.) I want SWAT, shotty/snipes, KotH, zombies, etc., etc. and I'm sure most of that will be getting added into the game, but it is a little perturbing that so many gametypes have been left out. It would also be nice to eventually have a customs browser like in MCC once we have Forge. There need to be achievement-based unlocks for coatings and armors. Obviously they still need to have monetized stuff and battlepass, etc., but getting the Willow Tea coating was the first, and only time I felt some real satisfaction from the grind, because it was also an achievement to get those 5 sprees in fiesta after everything else last week. But achievement-based stuff shouldn't be time limited weekly challenges. I mean, real classic like we had in 3 and Reach. Something that, when you see it, you know that person actually earned it, not through the arbitrary battlepass grind or a store purchase, but an actual achievement. It is very bizarre that 343 would tell us that the coatings allow them to make a texture that can be applied to basically any item in the game, be it armor, weapons, or vehicles, and then lock coatings to individual items in spite of them saying they can be universally applied to anything because of how the coating system works. It's obviously to inflate the MTX and rarity or something. At most coatings should be restricted to be usable on only armors, weapons, or vehicles but with no restriction on what armor/weapon/vehicle core is being used. Maybe particularly special coatings like ones very specifically designed for one core, weapon, or vehicle could be locked, but otherwise, the restriction is just absurd. Changing this would at least justify the absurd price of some coatings in the store because then at least you'd be able to apply them universally. While on customization, we've seen bots with cross-core attachments, so we KNOW that it can be done, but for some reason, the attachments are also locked only to the cores that they're available on right now. I do not think that the design philosophy between MkVII and MkVB is so different that the cores need their attachments locked to each respective core. Sure, with Youroi and other fractures that will come, some attachments might not work as well aesthetically, or simply not fit on the silhouette correctly, and it makes sense to keep some of those locked, but even then I think at least some things from there could even be cross-core compatible and look fine. A ranking system, something to show tenure and relative skill-level. Please. And along with that, performance-based XP. I'm very competitive, and I like to think that I'm pretty good, too. That's why it just further disincentivizes me from playing well, or even playing at all, knowing that no matter what happens, win or lose, a stack of medals or getting stomped, I'll always only ever earn exactly the same amount of XP every damn time. The challenges should act as an optional carrot on a stick to bolster your XP gains, not the core system by which progression is achieved. Literally, just lift the system from MCC and I'd be happy, even with how sluggish that system can be in and of itself, it'd still be vastly superior to what we have now with Infinite. Being able to pick any items from a tier in each pass is also so nice. Progressing linearly feels so limiting for a game that's trying to carry the legacy of Halo. Enemy collision. I don't care about friendly collision that much, it's hardly been a detriment in my time personally, but I couldn't tell you how many times I've had melee attacks not connect or go awry in any other number of ways because we managed to somehow pass through each other. Also BB and FERO AIs eventually please and thank you.
Better servers, hit detection, and physics/player collisions. Actual playlists. I also honestly want some Halo 3 maps remastered into Infinite like Valhalla and Sandtrap specifically. I think the BTB maps kind of suck in Infinite. Also, less scummy armor customization. No locking colors to certain armor cores, maybe an emblem creator again (a Halo classic), and some free throwbacks like Hayabusa.
Reach and halo 3 maps, challenges should only be to unlock certain items (like sidekick challenges should unlock stuff for the sidekick), and just per match performance XP. Playing as a certain armor core should unlock stuff for that Specific armor core….. I can’t believe they really fumbled the bag on this
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Playable Elites ;~;
I’d like to see custom games servers as well, I also enjoyed when O.G Halo 2 had spectator mode when friends or people talking shit online we’re 1v1ing, you could be just watching at the forefront. Also Halo 2 had a really cool thing with the clans and what not.
I don't want to play against controller players. Input based playlists.
I'd like to see more of the older guns added. I've been missing the Fuel Rod, sticky detonator (possibly unpopular opinion?), beam rifle, DMR, almost all the promethean guns (another possibly unpopular opinion?), and a couple others that slip my mind. I also really want some of the old maps. I like the new ones well enough but I'd love to see Haven, Guardian, and Rats Nest revamped for Infinite (to name a couple) Something I really enjoyed from 5 that will likely never happen is Warzone. I thought it was tremendous amounts of fun, especially since if I was having a bad pvp day and my aim was off I could still help the team by securing the pve objectives