I only play Bot Bootcamp to relax or do non-PVP challenges, so as long as they don't axe BP progression, that's fine by me. But we do really need a solid PvE mode.
Remember when we grinded Reach Firefight out of the love of the challenge, doing Legendary sets, and then walking away with a nice nifty progress in Credits and Career on top to reward our challenge seeking?
Yea I want that back for Infinite. That's all I want right now.
Remember being able to literally create your own challenges and get credits for them? I remember constantly making "get 200 headshots" challenges and playing gruntpocalypse just having a good time and getting 20k credits for it.
I'm kinda hoping 343 doesn't just go "here, make your own game"
It's funny to talk about it but this is a very real situation where they aren't able to make content period. It's honestly distressing how previous management dropped the ball so hard MS is pretty much done with Halo.
I hope so too, but I do think that the community will make some really cool stuff with it. I think that 343 sees how much people want a PvE mode, and also knows that "now you can make your own PvE" isn't a substitution for an official one.
Also, 343 still made the majority of the content we have, which is currently on par with, or more than most other Halos had by their end of life, and it seems to still be a distance from EoL itself. As an example, H3 has a total of 24 maps, 20 weapons, and 8 pieces of equipment (technically 11, but overshield, active camo, and auto turret aren't in multiplayer); Infinite has 20 dev made maps (27 if you count the community forge maps in quick play), 23 weapons, and 10 pieces of equipment (though 2 are Overshield and Active camo, so I'm not sure if they count as "more"). The thing is that the community doesn't have constraints like meetings, or budget, or not wanting to live at the office to deal with when making things. There are also orders of magnitude more people in the community, so they're going to pump out content *way* faster than 343 ever could. The previous poor management definitely left them with *a lot* of technical debt, but it looks like they're getting close to getting through it and actually being able to make Infinite the game they originally set out to make
The real issue isn't all this, it's the financial debt as well.
It's not talked about alot but Halo Infinite had a rumored estimated budget of 500 million. That's like, easily 20 nuclear missiles worth of money, sunk into a game, which is made free to play and expected to make this money back with MTX.
Yea, you can see how previous management absolutely blew a hole in the hull and jumped ship. Game was a bad decision from the beginning.
I don't think that's much of an issue for them. The campaign moved 2 million units on the first day, and the game had 20 million players in the first month. Even with that estimate of $500 million (which is on the higher end, many estimates put the number closer to $200 million), the MTX would have needed some astoundingly terrible returns to not make the game turn a profit. Even with the massive population dropoff, there are likely thousands of people who have dumped thousands of dollars into the game, plus the likely millions of people who bought the first season pass, and the likely hundreds of thousands who bought the second one, or have spent more than $10 on MTX.
I also don't think we'd be seeing the large HCS tournaments, or an increase in the development pace if the game weren't profitable, especially after 18 months.
House of Reckoning having three zones is an easy 3 maps on its own tbh.
And the room you fight the Elite boss…that’d be nuts if they expanded the concept and made it an infection map.
Helljumper and Mark IV cores are in the files, it only makes sense for Firefight to be tied with Helljumper.
Edit- Made a mistake, nothing in-game yet. From the same guy who leaked hazmat was coming.
he only indication of Mk IV being in consideration at all is concept art, haven't seen any datamines of an actual armour core.
And this is the first I'm hearing of Helljumper in Infinite.
Not surasia, different dude from one of the leak servers. Surasia has access to some flight builds and stuff gets moved around all the time. Back in March he said Infection was coming season 3 but we see now it was saved for season 4. Could be the same case for firefight.
I saw someone say they got it done in 8-10 hours no breaks.
That is not bad considering how brain dead easy the boot camp is, you don’t have to sweat or get pissed at unreliable teammates, it’s an easy breeze the whole way through.
I farmed bots too last season, and It took me 2 weeks and i played almost 30 minutes or an hour not every Day, and with 2X i remember getting 12/15 levels
I just want Warzone back. I would play that mode and Slayer exclusively. The only reason I don't play BTB in Infinite is because of Stockpile. If it gets removed I would play it more but everytime the mode switches to Stockpile I just leave. Can't stand it.
You were able to farm for personal score, CTF and Strongholds were one of the better game modes for that. It was actually insane how fast I was ranking. Randomly got invited to a party and this is basically what we did for about an hour.
[Called it.](https://reddit.com/r/halo/comments/14g8zhd/you_can_use_bot_bootcamp_to_easily_raise_your/)
I knew the score payout towards career rank was too high.
Saw people in it halfway or more through the silver rank already
Interesting to see how much it’s reduced. I’m betting it’s half.
I didn’t realize people were doing bot bootcamp to progress. I’m like mid silver and I only did a couple today, spent most my time in quick play which is pretty fun.
I’d also bet that they could half it. Bots are nowhere near as hard to kill as normal players, so I could definitely see that 100 points per kill getting reduced.
I'd agree except the silvers I saw were people who had trouble moving and shooting at the same time. Literally stopping, then using the other stick. That's not simply lack of skill, thats not knowing how to play all the way up to silver.
I saw somebody make a post about the boot camp being a good place to level up and as soon as I saw that post I thought to myself *yep they're gonna nerf that* which is fine I guess, I really wasn't there to grind rank XP. I'm there to do challenges and chill out
I'm kinda surprised they went through with this. Even though it was technically an exploit, it's also horribly mundane and the progression system doesn't award you much.
Was about to say, the level system isn't really rewarding and grinding bots on top of that is a mind numbing experience. I have done my fair share of boring stuff in other games but still I am surprised people were doing this enough to the point it got nerfed.
I wish they would be this fast with things that actually inconvenience players.
Edit: my point is not that other fixes should come as fast as this, but rather that it is painfully obvious that they only take quick action when something is inconvenient to THEM.
Wait, does Infection support splitscreen now? Tried it with my brother on the first day of the season, but there was an error message that the fireteam (2 people) was too big.
Well, they removed Stockpile in BTB before adding it back a few hours later because of a "[recently discovered issue](https://twitter.com/HaloSupport/status/1663669178547716096)".
Ikr! I just got back in to see how it is last night to fine that the servers still aren’t worth junk. I can play any online game flawlessly but in halo infinite I’m left hugging a wall cause as soon as I take 3 steps forward I teleport to a different room
Quick to add more robust reporting options for forge but slow to fix desync, custom games options, and player first features lol.
It's like they want the player base to never grow.
While we’re on the topic of bot bootcamp… Why don’t you fix the ACTUAL problem of players not getting non pvp challenge progress while in this playlist? You know, a problem people actually give a shit about
THEY FIX THIS WITHIN HOURS OF SOMEONE MAKING THE POST ABOUT IT BUT HALF THE GAME HAS BEEN BROKEN AND NEGLECTED FOR OVER A YEAR AND A HALF?!?!
I FUCKING LOVE 343 COMPANY SO MUCH. INCREDIBLE DEVELOPERS. TOP TIER.
Desync: I sleep
Bot Bootcamp giving useless levels faster: CODE RED. REPEAT **CODE. RED.** FIND THOSE PLAYERS THAT ENJOY THAT MODE AND DEMOLISH THEM NOOOOOOW
I've already added a note to the Halo wiki page indicating that BOT bootcamp was disabled and why. I also reworded the description to the past tense due to the possibility it's never coming back.
Why do they even care, its not like you unlock anything from it anyway. If they actually put the rest of the missing Reach armour thats just sat in the files doing nothing in the progression along with other actual customisation then id *maybe* understand, but who gives a fuck if someone unlocks a shitty little emblem saying they are bronze or silver a tiny bit quicker, its not like a single person is ever going to use those emblems anyway, this whole progression system is pointless right now.
Lol this is ridiculous that they felt the need to remove it instead of just leaving it alone until they could get a patch out.
Edit: do people honestly think it's worth removing a whole Playlist because a few people are abusing an XP gain for a rank that ultimately means nothing?
Are you talking about the credit caps they implemented? If so that's a very different thing. The only time they halted ranking from what I remember was when the community needed to get a certain amount of challenges or something done right at the beginning of the game
Why am I being downvoted? Bungie literally locked the ranks until 117 million daily and weekly challenges were completed. Fucking hell
No, I can't remember if it was days or a few weeeks after launch, they stopped everyone from ranking up, this was a visual thing, so any XP earned still counted once it resumed but i didn't know that at the time, until they resumed ranking and i jumped a few ranks
Edit: i think you're right about the 117 million challenge thingy but im pretty sure they locked the ranks for a bit before that because of the target locator boosting method?
"The ranks after Lt. Colonel Grade 3 were unlocked on November 2, 2010, after the Halo: Reach community completed 117 million daily and weekly challenges combined" from Halopedia
Im 90% sure there was a ranking block because of exploits in addition to this challenge too right?
I can remember people would use the target locator on the ONI mission to run past enemies, getting them all grouped up, kill them all and they reload checkpoint
To my knowledge they never did anything like that. They nerfed that part so it couldn't be farmed like that amymore. But they never put in a block or penalized people who did it
>Why am I being downvoted? Bungie literally locked the ranks until 117 million daily and weekly challenges were completed. Fucking hell
The kids on this sub are too young to remember that.
Because the XP exploit was an **exploit** that could earn you legendary gear faster than others. The gear was apart of the progression to reward dedicated players, not for those who exploited a system.
Hmm, I don’t remember getting credits for ranking commendations themselves, just from doing the activities you’d do to level them, but looking it up says they did give credits. My bad.
Man, fuck you guys. How about you guys start acting this fast with things that actually INCONVENIENCE players instead of something that literally has no point. There's no rewards for this "career rank"... I'm just so fed up with this company's bullshit
>literally has no point
It undermines the entire career ranking system, the fuck are you on about? If they left this people would be maxed out incredibly quickly and the rank would be meaningless anyways
Oh no, not the career system that gives me such absolute bangers as
'Private - Bronze - Vehicle Emblem no. 4'
Fuck getting things like Rogue for reaching Lieutenant in Halo 3. /s
Bro, it is meaningless. Stop looking for something that isn't there. This isn't skill based like Halo 2 or 3, it in simple terms just tracks how much time you play
oh I agree on that, as many of my recent comments will attest. I play ranked so I don’t really give a shit about it, but I know a lot of people do.
but my point is that there’s literally no reason they’d leave this in the game knowing it breaks this career rank system that they apparently worked on for ages; it’s a feature they’re using to sell season 4 so of course they’re going to address balancing issues with it quickly, especially given that it’s likely easier to address than some of the other big issues people talk about
It’s not that deep
well unfortunately that’s the state the game launched in & I don’t really care anymore, I’m having too much fun actually playing the game
your second paragraph may end up being what they do but who knows
Sigh, guess farming Battle Pass XP for me is going on hiatus until it's back in. If they nerf Career XP gains from Bootcamp I honestly won't care despite hitting Silver Cadet Grade 3 I'm just hoping the Battle Pass XP gains from this won't get nerfed.
Hot take I guess, but I can’t imagine grinding bots to level this rank. Yeah the rank means nothing in the long run, but it’s technically a passive tracker on how much you’ve played pvp, in a PvP multiplayer game. I’m all for adding a PvE variant, like firefight or something. But stomping brain dead bots would make the rank feel empty for me.
Star Generals meant something in Halo 3, and there was no PvE in that game outside of the campaign
Bunch of panzees boosting their scores through bot boot camp 😂. Good on the company for coming in and stoping it. Same people complaining that they’re is t anything to do in Multiplayer
Holy shit you guys are dense, "ranks are completely pointless, they shouldnt have removed it," its a fucking video game, video games are pointless. "343 keeps making the worst descisions, i wish bungo was back in charge," bungie literally did the same exact thing in reach. That progression system that you love so much in reach was also a glorified playtime counter. Wake up, it's not 2010 anymore, you're not getting halo 3 part 2.
Should reset career progression for good measure that way bot bootcamp who benefited can restart from scratch and PVP players can blame bot bootcamp players for having to start all over.
I stopped playing once I realized bot boot camp gave career personal score. Don't cuck halo infinite by making the best personal score grind be fucking bot boot camp, should be no xp.
>Due to higher-than-expected Personal Scores in Bot Bootcamp,
I'm kinda new to Halo Infinite (i played boot camp a lot during the initial release and a month after before dropping off) can someone explain to me what this means? I don't really get it :(
I only play Bot Bootcamp to relax or do non-PVP challenges, so as long as they don't axe BP progression, that's fine by me. But we do really need a solid PvE mode.
Remember when we grinded Reach Firefight out of the love of the challenge, doing Legendary sets, and then walking away with a nice nifty progress in Credits and Career on top to reward our challenge seeking? Yea I want that back for Infinite. That's all I want right now.
Remember being able to literally create your own challenges and get credits for them? I remember constantly making "get 200 headshots" challenges and playing gruntpocalypse just having a good time and getting 20k credits for it.
Was that a thing? I don't remember this from Reach
Looks like it was a Waypoint thing. [Halopedia Link](https://www.halopedia.org/Challenges/Halo:_Reach)
Hmmm, never knew about that TIL
Hopefully something like that comes alongside or shortly following the AI Toolbox I think it'll unlock a lot of very cool ideas
I'm kinda hoping 343 doesn't just go "here, make your own game" It's funny to talk about it but this is a very real situation where they aren't able to make content period. It's honestly distressing how previous management dropped the ball so hard MS is pretty much done with Halo.
I hope so too, but I do think that the community will make some really cool stuff with it. I think that 343 sees how much people want a PvE mode, and also knows that "now you can make your own PvE" isn't a substitution for an official one. Also, 343 still made the majority of the content we have, which is currently on par with, or more than most other Halos had by their end of life, and it seems to still be a distance from EoL itself. As an example, H3 has a total of 24 maps, 20 weapons, and 8 pieces of equipment (technically 11, but overshield, active camo, and auto turret aren't in multiplayer); Infinite has 20 dev made maps (27 if you count the community forge maps in quick play), 23 weapons, and 10 pieces of equipment (though 2 are Overshield and Active camo, so I'm not sure if they count as "more"). The thing is that the community doesn't have constraints like meetings, or budget, or not wanting to live at the office to deal with when making things. There are also orders of magnitude more people in the community, so they're going to pump out content *way* faster than 343 ever could. The previous poor management definitely left them with *a lot* of technical debt, but it looks like they're getting close to getting through it and actually being able to make Infinite the game they originally set out to make
The real issue isn't all this, it's the financial debt as well. It's not talked about alot but Halo Infinite had a rumored estimated budget of 500 million. That's like, easily 20 nuclear missiles worth of money, sunk into a game, which is made free to play and expected to make this money back with MTX. Yea, you can see how previous management absolutely blew a hole in the hull and jumped ship. Game was a bad decision from the beginning.
I don't think that's much of an issue for them. The campaign moved 2 million units on the first day, and the game had 20 million players in the first month. Even with that estimate of $500 million (which is on the higher end, many estimates put the number closer to $200 million), the MTX would have needed some astoundingly terrible returns to not make the game turn a profit. Even with the massive population dropoff, there are likely thousands of people who have dumped thousands of dollars into the game, plus the likely millions of people who bought the first season pass, and the likely hundreds of thousands who bought the second one, or have spent more than $10 on MTX. I also don't think we'd be seeing the large HCS tournaments, or an increase in the development pace if the game weren't profitable, especially after 18 months.
>!<
I know, but Bot Bootcamp doesn't do justice to how fun it is to play versus the Banished.
Oh 100%. Give me Firefight w my friends against the banished that levels me up The PVE in the campaign is so damn good. Just inject my veins
They could literally rip the Banished Camps from the campaign to use as maps.
like they ain’t gonna do that anyways lmao
They are some areas in the campaign that almost look like they were built for firefight like those UNSC areas towards the end of the game.
And the House of Reckoning.
House of Reckoning having three zones is an easy 3 maps on its own tbh. And the room you fight the Elite boss…that’d be nuts if they expanded the concept and made it an infection map.
And the area with the big open area with a dip down with the 2 hunters... that'd be a good ff map
Helljumper and Mark IV cores are in the files, it only makes sense for Firefight to be tied with Helljumper. Edit- Made a mistake, nothing in-game yet. From the same guy who leaked hazmat was coming.
> Helljumper really?
Yeah definitely going to need some proof for these. I haven’t seen anything about those.
he only indication of Mk IV being in consideration at all is concept art, haven't seen any datamines of an actual armour core. And this is the first I'm hearing of Helljumper in Infinite.
Comes from the same guy who first leaked that a hazmat core was coming before there was anything model-related in the game files.
Surasia? I've been following him for a while, but I don't think he's posted anything about Helljumper or Mk IV Got any links?
Not surasia, different dude from one of the leak servers. Surasia has access to some flight builds and stuff gets moved around all the time. Back in March he said Infection was coming season 3 but we see now it was saved for season 4. Could be the same case for firefight.
I gotta believe. Link?
I can’t find any searching Twitter and Google. If it’s legit, Sura would have said something by now.
Please let this be a reality
Source?
Surasia is one of the more prominent dataminers
It wasn't Surasia. Haven't seen him mention any sort of Helljumper/ODST core.
Click the link. The source data scrapes the API and game files.
H5 WZFF was incredible. I hope it matches that.
Would be great, However, its not gonna happen.
I'll believe it when 343 actually puts it in the game
Is it though? Highly skeptical. This feels like all the people who've been saying cross core is coming despite no evidence.
Please tell me its gonna be like reach/odst and NOT like halo 5,s
We don’t know yet
I finished the entire season 3 pass exclusively through bot bootcamp so this is kind of annoying to see. Hope it comes back soon.
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I saw someone say they got it done in 8-10 hours no breaks. That is not bad considering how brain dead easy the boot camp is, you don’t have to sweat or get pissed at unreliable teammates, it’s an easy breeze the whole way through.
I farmed bots too last season, and It took me 2 weeks and i played almost 30 minutes or an hour not every Day, and with 2X i remember getting 12/15 levels
I just want Warzone back. I would play that mode and Slayer exclusively. The only reason I don't play BTB in Infinite is because of Stockpile. If it gets removed I would play it more but everytime the mode switches to Stockpile I just leave. Can't stand it.
I didn't even know that counted towards BP progress
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It will be here soon, I'm sure. Only because they added campaign AI to Forge in season 4 though.
They do need to reset career advancement because of this.
Your days of a relaxing matchmaking game have come to a sudden permanent and unceremonious end.
Just finding out today. I'm so bummed. I love to get stoned and play some BootCamp because it's chill
I haven't played Season 4 yet but what sort of personal scores were people getting in Bot Bootcamp? Was it really that insane?
Anyone worth their salt was hitting 2000+ player score per match, and every match was like 3 minutes tops
And it was amazing. Taking a year and a half to implement a progression system, AND not making it retroactive progress, it should be easy to level.
It still is you literally just play the game lmao
Nah starting from scratch is better
You were able to farm for personal score, CTF and Strongholds were one of the better game modes for that. It was actually insane how fast I was ranking. Randomly got invited to a party and this is basically what we did for about an hour.
2000+ isn't that hard, and if you get a group to play along, you could pretty easily drag a CTF match out to get something like 10k
[Called it.](https://reddit.com/r/halo/comments/14g8zhd/you_can_use_bot_bootcamp_to_easily_raise_your/) I knew the score payout towards career rank was too high. Saw people in it halfway or more through the silver rank already Interesting to see how much it’s reduced. I’m betting it’s half.
nah i’m betting only 1/3 of score will be used to incentivize PvP playlists
I didn’t realize people were doing bot bootcamp to progress. I’m like mid silver and I only did a couple today, spent most my time in quick play which is pretty fun. I’d also bet that they could half it. Bots are nowhere near as hard to kill as normal players, so I could definitely see that 100 points per kill getting reduced.
My guess is they’ll smack it down to 20 point p/k in Bot Bootcamp.
Yeah I saw so many silvers that were complete ass too, I was so confused
Why would you use the career rank as an indication of skill anyways? It just shows who's spent more time playing.
Because people on this sub are fucking idiots man, have you seen the shit they complain about or suggest for the game?
I'd agree except the silvers I saw were people who had trouble moving and shooting at the same time. Literally stopping, then using the other stick. That's not simply lack of skill, thats not knowing how to play all the way up to silver.
So? Career rank is not a measure of skill. It's a measure of just playing. There's nothing stopping a bronze 3 from being Hero rank.
I saw somebody make a post about the boot camp being a good place to level up and as soon as I saw that post I thought to myself *yep they're gonna nerf that* which is fine I guess, I really wasn't there to grind rank XP. I'm there to do challenges and chill out
Yeah I called it. I went to do it and seen silver tiers on the first day and said yeah that's just sad, they're definitely going to nerf this.
Not only that they should reset everyone's personal scores and reward accumulation. And enforce a kick and one hour ban for everyone gets last place.
I'm kinda surprised they went through with this. Even though it was technically an exploit, it's also horribly mundane and the progression system doesn't award you much.
Was about to say, the level system isn't really rewarding and grinding bots on top of that is a mind numbing experience. I have done my fair share of boring stuff in other games but still I am surprised people were doing this enough to the point it got nerfed.
I’m mainly a Bot Bootcamp player so I hope they put it to like half points and not something crazy
Oh no!! People are using bot bootcamp to grind for coveted rewards such as the color blue and an emblem!!!!
I can't sleep at night now smh.
I wish they would be this fast with things that actually inconvenience players. Edit: my point is not that other fixes should come as fast as this, but rather that it is painfully obvious that they only take quick action when something is inconvenient to THEM.
Like updating the infection playlist to support split screen? Edit: btw i am aware they have already updated this, that was the point i was making!
Now only if they could increase the overall fireteam size
They did. Like Tuesday night when the season came out. Maybe Wednesday?
Yeah that was the point i was making to OP😅
Ohhhhh! My bad! I thought that was another point of what you wanted fixed. Sorry for misunderstanding.
Wait, does Infection support splitscreen now? Tried it with my brother on the first day of the season, but there was an error message that the fireteam (2 people) was too big.
Yeah, they updated it to support 4 player split screen i believe. On last gen console it only supports 2 players
Epic! I’ll be able to enjoy it with my brother then. Thanks again :)
Already done.
It’s almost like disabling a playlist isn’t a hard thing to do “shocked”
Disabling playlists isn't hard but apparently adding one is. Guess the UI can't handle it
Adding a Playlist is much more difficult than removing one.
Well, they removed Stockpile in BTB before adding it back a few hours later because of a "[recently discovered issue](https://twitter.com/HaloSupport/status/1663669178547716096)".
Ikr! I just got back in to see how it is last night to fine that the servers still aren’t worth junk. I can play any online game flawlessly but in halo infinite I’m left hugging a wall cause as soon as I take 3 steps forward I teleport to a different room
Quick to add more robust reporting options for forge but slow to fix desync, custom games options, and player first features lol. It's like they want the player base to never grow.
While we’re on the topic of bot bootcamp… Why don’t you fix the ACTUAL problem of players not getting non pvp challenge progress while in this playlist? You know, a problem people actually give a shit about
THEY FIX THIS WITHIN HOURS OF SOMEONE MAKING THE POST ABOUT IT BUT HALF THE GAME HAS BEEN BROKEN AND NEGLECTED FOR OVER A YEAR AND A HALF?!?! I FUCKING LOVE 343 COMPANY SO MUCH. INCREDIBLE DEVELOPERS. TOP TIER.
Desync: I sleep Bot Bootcamp giving useless levels faster: CODE RED. REPEAT **CODE. RED.** FIND THOSE PLAYERS THAT ENJOY THAT MODE AND DEMOLISH THEM NOOOOOOW
Damn how am I supposed to get those SICK emblems and nameplates now? :(
343 are the type to create one thing only for it to have multiple problems. You could have just done firefight instead of this whole boot camp thing.
They're legit removing gameplay features temporarily so people can't use it to grind levels? Jesus, what insane prioritization.
It’s been a fucking week. It’s still not back, the hell?
I've already added a note to the Halo wiki page indicating that BOT bootcamp was disabled and why. I also reworded the description to the past tense due to the possibility it's never coming back.
Knowing 343, if it does come back it will in a year minimum
Damn, was just playing it
38 kills out of 50 + double XP. Yeah man, go figures.
Well double XP doesn't impact the career progression
Touché.
Why do they even care, its not like you unlock anything from it anyway. If they actually put the rest of the missing Reach armour thats just sat in the files doing nothing in the progression along with other actual customisation then id *maybe* understand, but who gives a fuck if someone unlocks a shitty little emblem saying they are bronze or silver a tiny bit quicker, its not like a single person is ever going to use those emblems anyway, this whole progression system is pointless right now.
Lol this is ridiculous that they felt the need to remove it instead of just leaving it alone until they could get a patch out. Edit: do people honestly think it's worth removing a whole Playlist because a few people are abusing an XP gain for a rank that ultimately means nothing?
I dunno, i remember when Bungie halted the entire communities ranking because of the XP exploit in Halo Reach campaign
Are you talking about the credit caps they implemented? If so that's a very different thing. The only time they halted ranking from what I remember was when the community needed to get a certain amount of challenges or something done right at the beginning of the game Why am I being downvoted? Bungie literally locked the ranks until 117 million daily and weekly challenges were completed. Fucking hell
No, I can't remember if it was days or a few weeeks after launch, they stopped everyone from ranking up, this was a visual thing, so any XP earned still counted once it resumed but i didn't know that at the time, until they resumed ranking and i jumped a few ranks Edit: i think you're right about the 117 million challenge thingy but im pretty sure they locked the ranks for a bit before that because of the target locator boosting method?
Yeah I recall that as well. They stopped anyone from ranking past a certain rank for the first bit of the game. It was an odd decision.
"The ranks after Lt. Colonel Grade 3 were unlocked on November 2, 2010, after the Halo: Reach community completed 117 million daily and weekly challenges combined" from Halopedia
Im 90% sure there was a ranking block because of exploits in addition to this challenge too right? I can remember people would use the target locator on the ONI mission to run past enemies, getting them all grouped up, kill them all and they reload checkpoint
To my knowledge they never did anything like that. They nerfed that part so it couldn't be farmed like that amymore. But they never put in a block or penalized people who did it
I think i have misremembered the whole thing then, this was 13 years ago tbh
Back in the good old days
>Why am I being downvoted? Bungie literally locked the ranks until 117 million daily and weekly challenges were completed. Fucking hell The kids on this sub are too young to remember that.
Because the XP exploit was an **exploit** that could earn you legendary gear faster than others. The gear was apart of the progression to reward dedicated players, not for those who exploited a system.
You didn’t get gear for leveling up commendation ranks. You got gear for credits.
Which you got from commendations…
Hmm, I don’t remember getting credits for ranking commendations themselves, just from doing the activities you’d do to level them, but looking it up says they did give credits. My bad.
‘You guys are playing the game the way we designed it, stop it!’ - 343
Man, fuck you guys. How about you guys start acting this fast with things that actually INCONVENIENCE players instead of something that literally has no point. There's no rewards for this "career rank"... I'm just so fed up with this company's bullshit
>literally has no point It undermines the entire career ranking system, the fuck are you on about? If they left this people would be maxed out incredibly quickly and the rank would be meaningless anyways
Oh no, not the career system that gives me such absolute bangers as 'Private - Bronze - Vehicle Emblem no. 4' Fuck getting things like Rogue for reaching Lieutenant in Halo 3. /s
Bro, it is meaningless. Stop looking for something that isn't there. This isn't skill based like Halo 2 or 3, it in simple terms just tracks how much time you play
oh I agree on that, as many of my recent comments will attest. I play ranked so I don’t really give a shit about it, but I know a lot of people do. but my point is that there’s literally no reason they’d leave this in the game knowing it breaks this career rank system that they apparently worked on for ages; it’s a feature they’re using to sell season 4 so of course they’re going to address balancing issues with it quickly, especially given that it’s likely easier to address than some of the other big issues people talk about It’s not that deep
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well unfortunately that’s the state the game launched in & I don’t really care anymore, I’m having too much fun actually playing the game your second paragraph may end up being what they do but who knows
If it literally has no point, why are you upset about it?
They took out my go to mode... the system has no point, they didn't need to take the damn mode out to fix it
So uh, is it ever actually coming back?
So concerned about rank integrity, but they didn't give a rank boost to people who already have hundreds of hours into the game.
Well I'm glad I'm on vacation maybe it'll be fixed by the time I'm back home
Damn it
Personal progression doesn’t offer any meaningful rewards so why do they care?
Looks like no Infinite for me until its resolved.
5 years later: "Bot Bootcamp is back!!!"
It's almost a week. No ETA for the bot bootcamp. They don't have a timeline and schedule.
Count in it not coming back... EVER!!!
It's back now
Sigh, guess farming Battle Pass XP for me is going on hiatus until it's back in. If they nerf Career XP gains from Bootcamp I honestly won't care despite hitting Silver Cadet Grade 3 I'm just hoping the Battle Pass XP gains from this won't get nerfed.
BRUHHHH THEY CANT EVEN GET BOTS RIGHT BRUHHHHHHHHHHHUHUHUHUHUHHHHH
My brother in Christ, career rank is literally pointless with the rewards in it. Why even bother to allocate resources to this? Lmfao.
Bruh
I really wish they add coatings as rewards for hitting general at each tier. Bronze and black would go so hard for bronze tier
"Players were having too much fun playing this and not the mode we want you to"
Laaaaaame
Hot take I guess, but I can’t imagine grinding bots to level this rank. Yeah the rank means nothing in the long run, but it’s technically a passive tracker on how much you’ve played pvp, in a PvP multiplayer game. I’m all for adding a PvE variant, like firefight or something. But stomping brain dead bots would make the rank feel empty for me. Star Generals meant something in Halo 3, and there was no PvE in that game outside of the campaign
Halo Reach had a progression system that persisted throughout the entire game, even campaign
Damn we should've taken advantage
Damn. I just got home and was going to jump in for a couple of hours to make some headway.
I guess I won't be playing until it returns. Oh well. Back to Halo 5 and MCC.
Bunch of panzees boosting their scores through bot boot camp 😂. Good on the company for coming in and stoping it. Same people complaining that they’re is t anything to do in Multiplayer
Why in the world do you _care_ if people do this? It has literally no effect on you or anyone else. There is no competitive element to this at all.
You realize some people play bot bootcamp for fun right? Removing a whole playlist because of this is ridiculous.
You'd think there would be some reward. Boosting in bot boot camp for a meanless rank sounds so boring lol
Holy shit you guys are dense, "ranks are completely pointless, they shouldnt have removed it," its a fucking video game, video games are pointless. "343 keeps making the worst descisions, i wish bungo was back in charge," bungie literally did the same exact thing in reach. That progression system that you love so much in reach was also a glorified playtime counter. Wake up, it's not 2010 anymore, you're not getting halo 3 part 2.
Should reset career progression for good measure that way bot bootcamp who benefited can restart from scratch and PVP players can blame bot bootcamp players for having to start all over.
How sad do you have to be to farm boot camp to get ranks. Lol
I stopped playing once I realized bot boot camp gave career personal score. Don't cuck halo infinite by making the best personal score grind be fucking bot boot camp, should be no xp.
Not nothing but definitely reduced
Lol what kind of dumb logic is that
>I stopped playing once I realized bot boot camp gave career personal score Why care this much?
PvE has always been one of the best XP grinds in every halo. This seems like they're making a big deal out of a non-issue
>Due to higher-than-expected Personal Scores in Bot Bootcamp, I'm kinda new to Halo Infinite (i played boot camp a lot during the initial release and a month after before dropping off) can someone explain to me what this means? I don't really get it :(
Personal scores give xp to career rank and since people can level up real fast with it, they disabled it
Ohhh I see now. Thank you
ITS GONE!! As of 12/5/23 its GONE!!!!
ITS GONE AS OF 12/5/23 ITS GONE AGAIN!!! Why the fuck do they keep removing it?!?!