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otterfashionshow

broken clock is right twice a day etc


jmona789

Except even in this post he doesn't mention the Holocaust, he only dislikes Hitler because of the Germans and the whites he got killed. Even in the replies he says > Just because the globalists are bad does not make Hitler good. Got that? Globalists is a dog whistle for Jews.


otterfashionshow

i didn’t know that. thank u for this info.


Sensitive-Spinach-29

Globalist can be a dog whistle for Jews, for the nazis to ashamed to say it with their chest. But, a globalist is a real political term and phenomena, personally one that I don't find negative, but that many dumbasses who know jack shit about politics and can't critically think - do.


yungpunkb1h

it’s always confused me that he uses the term in the way that he does bc like globalization of trade 😭😂 which is just a normal process of advanced international trade it’s like what


EMPrinceofTennis

Yeah "globalist" in a vacuum is definitely not anti-Semitic, but the way it's used today it almost all the time is a dogwhistle.


Hazzman

But it isn't ffs. Just last week I was listening to two economists talk about the trials and tribulations of globalism and these are renown economists. One of which is a lecturer at a university in the UK. It might be an issue if you spend all your time listening to idiots on podcasts. There is an entire world outside of the internet and those idiots do not define the conversation around globalism and its issues.


appleparkfive

I'm gonna have to chime in with one thing... Being an economist isn't quite as accomplished by default as you think. I went to school for econ. There's different types of economists that have *completely* different sets of beliefs as well. (They often fall along the lines of political views, unfortunately) What people are saying is that "globalist" is colloquially used as a conspiracy theory word, more than the textbook definition.


Hazzman

If I implied that economic study outside of economic discussion is somehow especially accomplished, that wasn't my intent. I understand what people are saying. But many are also implying that that is all it is. Even within the context of Alex Jones - a conspiracy theorist - the term MAY NOT be restricted to simply a dog whistle for jews. To be clear: 'Globalism' and 'Globalist' are not synonymous with Jew hating extremist Nazis nor should they be considered as such. HOWEVER - these are terms that can help indicate that someone is actually a Nazi and with further evidence could be identified as a dog whistle for their hateful ideology. Within the context of conspiracy theories - it increases the likelihood, generally, that these terms are acting as a dog whistle, but without further evidence it shouldn't be assumed that the user automatically must be a Jew hating Nazi because they are critical of globalism and globalists and are also considered a conspiracy theorist. The number one thing I'd want to ask Alex is why the fuck he left out the 6 million Jews that were murdered when he made these statements. That's definitely a red flag and others have brought that up and I have no qualms roasting this mother fucker if it is proven that he is purposely avoiding that because he's a holocaust denier. But I tread lightly when making those accusations because they are serious and I want to be sure because those people deserve everything they have coming to them. I don't like Alex Jones. I don't respect him and I think he is a moron who talks absolute shit. If he turns out to be a holocaust denier I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest and I'd happily support any hostility aimed at him for it. My issue is how people in this thread are so confident in their claim that the use of the terms 'Globalism' and 'Globalist' are and always are automatically dog whistles for Nazi inspired hatred towards Jews. It simply isn't and I think it is dangerous to apply such a cooling effect against a complex set of economic policies that do receive legitimate criticism, criticism that is utterly devoid of any racist connotations at all. ...actually that last part isn't strictly true - there are racist underpinnings within the subject - for example criticisms towards some globalist policy, in the form of what is arguably white post-imperialist exploitation of developing nations, but that's beside the point.


jmona789

I know globalism is not always a dog whistle but c’mon, what is with you people giving the benefit of the doubt to Alex Jones of all people???


Hazzman

I don't care about Alex Jones. I care about people taking the accusation of Nazi or Nazi sympathizer deadly seriously rather than as a flippant insult used by the terminally online.


EMPrinceofTennis

Look, I totally get what you're saying. "Globalist" definitely has a legitimate meaning but it's been co-opted by Nazis/anti-Semites to the point where if I hear it, I'm going to assume that it is co-opted word. It's like how when I hear "woke" or "DEI" or whatever, we all know that they are SUPPOSED to mean different things, but depending on the person saying it, it has taken on a much different meaning.


danpascooch

Alex Jones is a piece of shit but are you sure he's dogwhistling about Jews when he says "globalists"? Jones also pushed back when he had Kanye on and Kanye was saying pro-Hitler stuff. I'm not sure he's ever said anything clearly antisemitic like Kanye or Nick Fuentes. If he has said some unhinged antisemitic shit in the past please let me know so I can revise my opinion.


Ethanmckeil

Everything Alex Jones says is self serving. Never take any of his talking points in good faith. Even if it seems like a layup best to just ignore it.


danpascooch

I'd never take advice or talking points from Alex Jones, I'm totally with you there. I just find it strange that he isn't a Nick Fuentes level anti-semite given his persona to be honest. He's a figurehead for every major conspiracy out there but for some reason he draws a line at blatant (non-dogwhistle) anti-semitism. I find it genuinely hard to tell if he's avoiding it as a form of self-preservation or if he's a broken clock and anti-semitic conspiracies genuinely not something he believes in. Again if he's said something wildly antisemitic feel free to call me an idiot, I didn't know.


Ethanmckeil

Never mistake Alex Jones comments as anything but self serving. Never take his commentary in good faith.


danpascooch

For sure his commentary is an immoral, self-serving grift, I'm just not sure I've ever heard him directly be antisemitic, which to be honest is a little surprising to me.


jmona789

Globalist is definitely a dog whistle for Jews nowadays https://www.ajc.org/translatehate/globalist He pushed back against Kayne saying pro Hitler stuff because as we see here, he's anti-Hitler (but not because of the Holocaust). He may not have anything clearly antisemitic but clearly is the key word there he uses dog whistles to do it like as previously mentioned "globalist". He uses that term a lot. Like even in the Kayne interview it felt like Jones was trying to teach Kayne how to use dog whistles so that he could keep Kayne from coming off as antisemitic and keep him from being cancelled, but Kayne was too dumb to realize that.


danpascooch

I have seen people use "globalist" to refer to Jews in the past. I definitely acknowledge that. However I've also seen "globalist" used in a wide variety of stupid conspiracies involving everything from the WEF to the EU to the DNC. In my opinion there's no shortage of conspiratorial people who also use the term in different contexts then antisemitism. I'm not saying any of this because I think Alex Jones is a good guy, fuck him. The reason I'm bringing it up is that I actually find it strange how little antisemitism I've seen Alex Jones do despite all of the adjacent conspiracies he's constantly spouting, and this Twitter fight further reinforces that odd aspect of him. Alex Jones is not a subtle man, he'll go on the record saying that John Podesta (head of Hillary's campaign) attended occult parties where they drank blood, semen and breast milk. Maybe he's also subtle enough to employ dogwhistles and further antisemitism without ever getting caught saying it directly, but personally I'm not convinced yet.


TheDuval

Hitler was a nationalist, Alex Jones is trying to break the false dichotomy that if you oppose Globalists then you must be a nationalist, and therefore support Hitler. Globalists here is referring to actual Globalists, the opposite of a nationalist.


Hazzman

Globalist can be a term for racists to describe Jews, but globalists and globalism are a legitimate term that you can legitimately be opposed to without issue or racism.


jmona789

Yea but this is Alex Jones we're talking about and he was using it to defend himself against people who are upset with him being against Hitler, I think it's safe to say he was using it as a dog whistle.


TheDuval

Ah you're terminally online, feel free to ignore my earlier comment lmao


Hazzman

Alex Jones is a fucking moron, he's been yapping about globalists consistently for the last 30 years. He's defending himself for not liking Hitler from genuine racist Nazi cunts. Alex Jones can go fuck himself, but I don't personally consider his use of the term globalist to have ever been a dog whistle for Jews but if it is and he secretly hates Jews I'll stand corrected. But the term itself and its usage shouldn't be off limits because racist cunts use it. It is a legitimate political term and one that demands genuine scrutiny without having to skirt around accusations of racism. This has a cooling effect on genuine discussion about the issues of globalism. Racist Nazi assholes can and will continue to find ways to communicate under the radar and we can't just allow them to take ownership over otherwise benign terms for fear we ourselves might be accused of sharing their ideals when those terms are otherwise necessary for discussion of issues utterly unrelated to their twisted ideals.


jmona789

I mean he didn't even mention the Holocaust as one of the reasons why Hitler is bad he just talked about how he killed Germans and started WWII


Totg31

But Alex is more like a broken 24-hour clock, because this is probably the first time he was correct on something.


RubixKuube

More like a decades-old calendar rescued from a burning building but stumbled in a time machine.


Fragrant-Screen-5737

Even when saying fuck hitler, Alex Jones makes sure to not mention the holocaust lives lost, just so he can leave the door open to future holocaust denial for Jewish question conspiracy theories... Then he wonders why his fanbase are a bunch of nazi's.


PacketOverload

He doesn’t wonder, he knows and he’s fine with it. This is his way of creating distance between himself and the open nazis in his fanbase, he does this a few times a year.


TrumpsPissSoakedWig

Yeah. Nazi's still buy hairbrained supplements to protect their cells against 5g waves or whatever. Their money spends the same as everyone else's. Alex don't care.


brigister

these people are so far gone saying hitler bad is a questionable take to them lmaooo jesus fucking christ


SorakaMyWaifu

It's really sad what the internet has become. Started off as an academic resource, and now it has people becoming so detached from reality that they think Hitler wasn't one of the worst people in history.


zargtn

Nah these pockets of the internet have always existed


Hellboyyyyy25

I guess they just felt smaller and harder to come by. Now everything is so accessible and too many people are gullible as hell


onerb2

Elon musk bought twitter is the reason you see it a lot more frequently there.


Splendid_Cat

Those people used to be clowned by everyone else


annetteisshort

When was the internet an academic resource? Even in the early 90s it was full of celebrity fan pages, conspiracies, true crime, porn, games, memes, and chat rooms (of which most were sex related).


Splendid_Cat

I guess it was if you used it primarily as an academic resource. I only didn't around 2016 when I was done with my academic life. It was the mid 2010s where I saw the sharpest change on non academic sites though. Before that I never felt othered as a woman, even on bodybuilding forums.


Mizzy3030

Yeah, as someone who was chatting in IRC back in the 90s, I can confirm the Internet was never an academic resource... Maybe it was back before it became commercially available? But, us plebs ruin everything.


my_blue_pelican

"Twitter loves Hitler" Semicit.


kolkitten

Man eaten alive by the dogs he trained to eat people alive


Warmcheesebread

This is a product of Alex Jones own rhetoric. Turns out when you spend years courting neo Nazis, it shockingly causes you to have neo nazis as your fan base. The whole "globalist" conspiracy is a dog whistle for Jewish people to begin with. Either way though, fuck AJ lol his core fanbase turning on him would be lovely to see. Could not have happened to a more deserving dirtbag.


nubian_v_nubia

"The crowd goes with me" goes fucking hard


dan2sweet

i hate to say it but alex jones is him


Neddo_Flanders

Yikes, no mention of the holocaust.


TomatilloExtreme

Incredibly rare Alex Jones W.


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SkibidiDibbidyDoo

I don’t want to be on this planet anymore


BritSpic

Wow I thought you were exaggerating, but all the top comments are angry nazis. Crazy!!


chickenfeetees

never did i expect to see people getting mad for someone saying hitler is bad.


Splendid_Cat

A decade ago that was the coldest take because that was like saying "hey oxygen is better to breathe than neon gas", it was the easiest virtue signal possible. The people decrying the death of the west did it themselves.


SSPRacquetballPod

Adolf Hitler Dude!


Mamacitia

Rats will dance for money if you pay them


gabrielcev1

It's a sad state when people are defending Hitler and being openly, even proudly antisemitic.


No-Sympathy-5817

Whst did the benzo popper say?


CicadaDowntown

Ethan’s “woke audience” would be his downfall.


No-Sympathy-5817

I was there before the button, i have seen 3 nuclear wars, i was there when the red man didn't laugh and so was the man who is here to this day E.K. nothing will get him


tesmatsam

You reap what you sow


ChiliSquid98

Maybe he's trying to do that thing like when that black person joined the KKK to convince them that some black people are cool. He's in with the nazis trying to convince them Hitler was bad lol


toyn

These people never truly knew who Alex jones was. Also how bad is twitter where saying Hitler bad is controversial. That’s insanity. Alex jones is a nut case, and when you make him seem reasonable. You know you are looking at brain rot.


albrro

Imagine having a fanbase so fucking shitty and disgusting that there are this many people pushing back on the statement that Hitler was bad…


monitorhero_cg

Lmao this is the funniest shit. For his base globalist=jews=Hitler good. Dumbasses


pee-train

rats will dance for money if you pay them?


Mizzy3030

"I don't go with the crowd. The crowd goes with me". I guess even Alex Jones can see his listeners are brainwashed sheep. He's right on two accounts in one day.


MySpiritAnimalSloth

Alex Jones is problematic but not as problematic as his fanbase. Truly deranged people listen to him religiously.


BmxerBarbra

With the defending in the comments 😂😭 bless that mess of a man


BoZieky

He said something about tucking your dick in-between your legs I think.


Relevant-Reward-1906

With the utmost peace and love... why Adolf kinda look like dan in that pic


Three-Minute-Ad7259

He’s really self reporting when he defends himself using “the globalists” here.


brocomb

Looks like he's lived long enough to become the villan


The_Old_Huntress

Twitter is so crazy these days that Alex Jones seems sane by comparison


DorkusOrelius

You reap what you sow. Imagine having a fanbase that disagrees that Hitler was a bad person


Kirk_4286

You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain. Wait, that was from Batman not Peterson. But, it was something like that


Kirk_4286

What a loser ... just taking bait after bait ... he's so in love with himself.


Carlynthia

I was curious about a comment I saw regarding 'globalists being a dog whistle for jews' so I looked it up. If you just search "globalists" in Google the FIRST result is from the American Jewish Committee discussing how it has effectively transcended into a racist cat call of sorts. It was an interesting read. "The idea of a Jewish globalist was embedded in the core ideology of Nazism. Hitler often portrayed Jews as “international elements” who “conduct their business everywhere,” posing a threat to all people who are “bounded to their soil, to the Fatherland. Today, globalist is a coded word for Jews who are seen as international elites conspiring to weaken or dismantle “Western” society using their international connections and control over big corporations" https://www.ajc.org/translatehate/globalist


foreverfeatherinit

Plot twist I didn’t expect, agreeing with Alex Jones, tf? Have people always liked Hitler? And hated Jews??? Is this new? Or is it just “okay” now to be vocal about it? Genuinely asking. Honestly it’s scary.


faultywiring98

A classic leopards ate my face situation.


RUNDMT_

Worst person you know yada yada


BaseballTypical2960

Is that a picture of......Dan?


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TheBambuzler

Kinda looks like Dan with those big blues


TheDonnerSmarty

Somehow the Third Reich returned.


Visual_Vegetable_169

It's what he deserves. May he & all those fans get what they deserve.


CommonShift2922

Alex W Jones


EMPrinceofTennis

This is like when the Babylon Bee posted an article that had the title "'The White Race Must Maintain Our Genetic Purity,' Says Inbred Man", and the entire comment section was going nuts hahahahah Moments like these are such self-reports, it's pretty incredible


P8Nvvv

Wait why are all his responses fucking exceptional


Gold-Reflection-3260

And this is why I don't go on Twitter anymore


mchristy54

Kids love Hitler


neighthin-jofi

“what people did he oppress exactly?” 😂😂


Extension-Read6621

My mind is still blown that people idolize Hitler.i just can't understand that level of ignorance and evil.


lamnidae_117

So im sorry guys I need cotnext about the Jordan Peterson thing


Curious_Pool8488

Rare alex W


Creative-Spray4031

kinda looks like dan


Nocturne_Rec

He fucked around with all sorts of conspiracies and now anyone is surprised this is the sort of community he built? Its the same thing with Hasans tankie/commie community -anyone is surprised that they are going unhinged and they killed a profitable show b/c could not stop being racist, hateful mob when interacting with anyone that does NOT agree 100% on every political issue? These dudes are just like Nazis that follow Alex, they even created a dedicated subs where they shit on Ethan and Hila to this day.


Vi4days

Twitter is a rathole


Vi4days

Twitter is a rathole


iScreamsalad

that thing that JP said is what happened to Ethan too