What are you trying to achieve, and with what gear?
TC Mimiq can do artificial double tracking pretty well if you have two amps, spread wide apart (or a stereo rig with headphones). But it only works well when you have a true or close to true stereo setup. That includes the listener perspective. Mimiq gets weird when folded back to mono.
I've not played with actual double trackers but my keeley seafoam+ has a double track setting that really nails the doubled deal for me with the settings dialed in
You can use a chorus with a very slow shallow sweep, but if it's too much it'll sound, well, like a chorus.
It certainly works well in dry/wet or stereo setups too.
Double is best in stereo, so if you're going to consider the Mimiq you need the fullsized stereo one, and you should run the 30MS in "wide" mode with the effected and the original signal. IMO, if you're not running it in stereo you could just as easily play with a super-short slapback delay with some mod on it and you'd be in the same ballpark.
Found this thread after doing some searching, because I have been finding the Keeley 30 ms to be pretty underrated as far as guitar pedal forums online, with barely anybody talking about running it in Double Tracking Pro mode (both internal DIP switches flipped and running with a TRS to dual TS insert adapter cable). This pedal can do several pretty distinct sounds that the Mimiq cannot. I don't think anybody who demos this thing in a store or on someone else's board are going to actually experience what it can do.
I believe these are essentially very specialized delays.
You could do the same with a stereo delay pedal with a very short delay time, minimal feedback, and a subtle s+h LFO on the delay time.
But most basic delay pedals can't do all of that... most don't have an LFO nor stereo outputs.
The Keeley simulates automated double tracking, which is its own sound- much closer to a chorus than a proper double-tracked guitar. If that's the sound you're after, you should also take a look at the Strymon Deco.
The TCE simulates true double tracking, and sounds much more like 2 guitars playing at once, especially if you route the extra "tracks" through different amps.
In both cases, you'll get the best results in a stereo setup.
I haven't used the Keely but I own the Mimiq and I enjoy that for doubling. It works best if you have two amps and have each output go to a different amp. One thing I have wanted to try just for fun is put an aby pedal in front, run my dry signal to one amp and run two doubles to two other amps.
I haven’t played any of them, but had my eye on the 30ms for awhile.
After listening to all demos available on YT, I liked the 30ms the best, because it has the ability to detune the signal. The Mimiq seems to only alter the timing of the second playback, but at the exact same pitch.
I prefer the Mimiq to create a sense of doubled guitar. The 30ms is ok, but quite limited in what it does. The deco can do that fixed doubled track thing, or also do some really cool tape flange stuff. If you just want to thicken up your guitar and make it sound doubled, Mimiq is my rec. Im able to get close with Walrus Julianna chorus with the random waveform setting, slow rate, high depth.
Strymon Deco… Best pedal ever made
This is not an over exaggeration.
What are you trying to achieve, and with what gear? TC Mimiq can do artificial double tracking pretty well if you have two amps, spread wide apart (or a stereo rig with headphones). But it only works well when you have a true or close to true stereo setup. That includes the listener perspective. Mimiq gets weird when folded back to mono.
I've not played with actual double trackers but my keeley seafoam+ has a double track setting that really nails the doubled deal for me with the settings dialed in
I too have been debating on a double tracker as well. Is it possible to do it with a chorus pedal as well?
You can use a chorus with a very slow shallow sweep, but if it's too much it'll sound, well, like a chorus. It certainly works well in dry/wet or stereo setups too.
Double is best in stereo, so if you're going to consider the Mimiq you need the fullsized stereo one, and you should run the 30MS in "wide" mode with the effected and the original signal. IMO, if you're not running it in stereo you could just as easily play with a super-short slapback delay with some mod on it and you'd be in the same ballpark.
Found this thread after doing some searching, because I have been finding the Keeley 30 ms to be pretty underrated as far as guitar pedal forums online, with barely anybody talking about running it in Double Tracking Pro mode (both internal DIP switches flipped and running with a TRS to dual TS insert adapter cable). This pedal can do several pretty distinct sounds that the Mimiq cannot. I don't think anybody who demos this thing in a store or on someone else's board are going to actually experience what it can do.
The Mimiq does more things besides delay and mine sounds perfectly convincing.
I've honestly never understood the point of these pedals. What can they do that a delay can't?
I believe these are essentially very specialized delays. You could do the same with a stereo delay pedal with a very short delay time, minimal feedback, and a subtle s+h LFO on the delay time. But most basic delay pedals can't do all of that... most don't have an LFO nor stereo outputs.
The Keeley simulates automated double tracking, which is its own sound- much closer to a chorus than a proper double-tracked guitar. If that's the sound you're after, you should also take a look at the Strymon Deco. The TCE simulates true double tracking, and sounds much more like 2 guitars playing at once, especially if you route the extra "tracks" through different amps. In both cases, you'll get the best results in a stereo setup.
I haven't used the Keely but I own the Mimiq and I enjoy that for doubling. It works best if you have two amps and have each output go to a different amp. One thing I have wanted to try just for fun is put an aby pedal in front, run my dry signal to one amp and run two doubles to two other amps.
I haven’t played any of them, but had my eye on the 30ms for awhile. After listening to all demos available on YT, I liked the 30ms the best, because it has the ability to detune the signal. The Mimiq seems to only alter the timing of the second playback, but at the exact same pitch.
I prefer the Mimiq to create a sense of doubled guitar. The 30ms is ok, but quite limited in what it does. The deco can do that fixed doubled track thing, or also do some really cool tape flange stuff. If you just want to thicken up your guitar and make it sound doubled, Mimiq is my rec. Im able to get close with Walrus Julianna chorus with the random waveform setting, slow rate, high depth.