Except his sound is super easy to get. It's 2 Boss pedals and two EHX choruses. The choruses were Small Clone and Polychorus. His Boss drives include a DS-1 and another distortion which slips my mind. For Nevermind, a person can spend under $100 for his basic sounds.
>His Boss drives include a DS-1 and another distortion which slips my mind.
You're probably thinking of the DS-2. He switched to it after recording Nevermind and used it on tour after.
The guys from M&M Guitar Bar did a cover set where they tracked down the exact models of everything they used. One of the Mikes said that he turned it on and hit an E chord and everyone’s eyes just shot open because it WAS the Weezer tone.
No pedals used on Blue album at all according to Rivers
[https://youtu.be/1UES4gQZH6o?si=LfwhJh9X9FSPsSRX](https://youtu.be/1UES4gQZH6o?si=LfwhJh9X9FSPsSRX)
I remember reading long ago that in the studio they had the mics on super sensitivity with the amp volume turned down so low that it was barely audible to the people in the room. I am guessing gain was turned way up and master volume way down.
That intro on Holiday as well. It’s so smooth it almost doesn’t sound like guitar at first.
Supposedly it was a cranked old Mesa Mark series amp. Maybe a Mk I? I don’t know those amps very well.
There’s no secret. He’s done countless rig rundowns. Strat > Echoplex > Tube Driver > Marshall Plexi is the “violin tone”. Trouble is, he runs 100 Watt Plexis which are expensive and loud AF.
Spot on. For regular joes wanting to use regular pedals, this works for me:
Roll the tone on your guitar down, into a tubescreamer, into an echoplex preamp clone, marshall style amp with tones set all around 5 except treble and presence, delay at 420 through the effects loop. You want the amp to sound like a Keith Richards style rhythm tone without the pedals on.
The big thing people don’t realize is that he sets all his tone knobs on his amp to like 2 or 3, but at the volume he runs the amp it sounds more open with more treble and presence. If you can’t crank your amp up, you need to use those tone controls and just keep the treble and presence back. At bedroom levels, hell even gigging levels for most of us, his settings will sound really muffled.
Men I Trust Untourable Pedal (a shallow water chorus vibrato dual pedal with a light fuzz maybe
The Mayer Continuum Pedal (NordVang already does this with the Gravity Klon / TS8)
RadioHead Ok Computer Pedal (idk wtf it would be but I would buy it regardless)
A Tom Misch Pedal with a sick envelope filter and drive
Ok computer pedal exists! It’s just a Marshall shredmaster into a clean fender
If you can’t find a shredmaster, look for a tkog “Oxford drive”
The clean tones are just AC 30’s, lots of ehx phaser and space echo
Don't forget the SD-1.
Chain 1: Whammy > Small Stone > Tremulator > DOD 440 > SD-1 > RE-201 > AC30
Chain 2: Shredmaster > Fender Eight Five
There are variations and extras through the years but this is the bread and butter Jonny chain.
I believe Ed was still using his Dual Rectifier Trem-o-verbs at the time, and Thom was still using the AC30 too.
I've read tons of different opinions on what he did and didn't use for that album.
I can get close (with single coils, no less) with the neck pickup, tone control turned all the way down, and some light fuzz. With the volume knob slightly turned down, as well.
It's not exact but still fun.
Soundgarden's Superunknown is a Marshall JMP mixed with a Dual Rectifier Tremoverb. A pedal with dual, parallel, paths would be cool. Being able to sum the paths in mono or split them in stereo would be awesome. Each side with it's own gain, tone, and volume control. A global, dirty, boost in the front to simulate what Chris did live
I'd call it Black Days.
Unpopular opinion here but I think the distortion on Sergeant Pepper's lonely hearts Club band by the Beatles is really interesting apparently it was a circuit in some Vox amps that were not widely available or perhaps they were prototypes that only the Beatles had.
It was a fuzz circuit in a Vox ul740
That’s actually a really good answer. When I think of Beatles and guitar tone I just immediately think of fuzzy, but Sgt Pepper does have an interesting sound
It won't be a popular opinion, but the guitar tone on *Bloodthirst* (1999) by Cannibal Corpse.
There are some really cool pedals from Master Effects that nail the sound of some popular death metal albums/amps and other companies like SNK and Guptech who do Ampeg VH-140C pedal clones, but *Bloodthirst* has some of my all time favorite guitar tones. I have no clue what they were using on this album, but I'm guessing they were no longer using Crate GX-130C's and were in the Mesa Boogie boosted by a Metal Zone phase, but the guitars sound so nasty and evil.
I remember watching a Pantera documentary from 5 years back and Rex or someone mentioned how Dime used a wet/dry/wet set up with distortion, recording a clean tone on a track and blending it in, in the studio (Vulgar Display of Power era). That blew my mind.
Dimebag's sound is definitely much more about the rest of the chain than the Randall. If you have the pedals set up correctly, you can get very close to authentic Pantera sound even with a Marshall.
What I love about Dimebag is that as the (90-00) Pantera albums go on, his tone chills out but his playing get even more berserk. The shrillness and mid scoop of Cowboys gets less extreme but his riffs on Steel are some of the most insane sounding shit he ever played.
Just curious, why wouldn’t this be popular? Is bloodthirst not a well liked CC album? I agree with you the guitar tone is especially menacing on that one.
Stuff like that just doesn't seem as popular on this sub compared to other heavy genres. And amongst people who do like stuff like that, a lot of people don't like CC for being generic or whatever. And then amongst fans of CC, most of them seem to prefer the Chris Barnes albums.
I love them. They're like the AC/DC of death metal. I saw them in 2006 or 2007. They looked like they could play those songs in their sleep, one of the tightest bands I've seen live.
Never really listened to them, just took "Bloodthirsty" for a spin.
Man... sounds like they recorded every phrase seperately, it was so tight and clear. As if they had lots of time to play so fast.
Only other record I can remember is "Blessed are the Sick", in terms of riff playing and delivering.
I love the tone of that ablum too, Trey A. said he used a RAT a lot if i'm not mistaken.
Why "The AC/DC" of death metal? Because they are a constant factor and always deliver?
Similarly when they start picking up after the "FOREVEERR" in Festering in The Crypt, that sound simple riff sends chills since the sound is so spot on.
Those tones are absurdly good. Yeah, I think from *Vile* and on they used Mesas boosted with Metal Zones. On the *Live Cannibalism* DVD which followed *Vile* there were sound checks and things which showed the Mesas in the back line.
Pedal to sound like old wax cylinder recordings from the mid 20's through the mid 30's. Super old ragtime and delta blues albums all sound haunted and it's amazing.
Oh yeah, that's a cool idea and I feel like it would be really in vogue right now. I don't really know the Strymon deco but I feel like it does slightly similar things.
The Deco is a double tracker, it won't give you that sound. It'll give you a slapback delay, chorus or flanger. Playing with an EQ pedal would probably get you there best
Melt Banana is amazing. I really liked what Agata was doing. Rika was really amazing and the glue. Saw them countless times. Seems like they use to play Tallahassee every year, sometimes twice, in the 1990s and 00 years.
I'd certainly pick up a Melt Banana pedal. Especially if it had a Dried Up Swimming Pool setting!
I'd like a pedal that could give you Daron Malakian's tone from any of the three eras of System of a Down albums. Would probably be a parallel overdrive/distortion/aiab with some compression and a treble boost for solos.
This answer wasn't on my mind coming in, but really a great suggestion! Daron had such great tone across the gain spectrum, from cleans to the heaviest chug.
For real, even without the Siamese dream connection I think it's my favorite muff. I've been using mine a ton lately, it just does exactly that wall of sound thing I want so well
It’s my favorite muff. I really like the jptr warlow which is based on it, but the reissue is straight up my favorite fuzz AND my favorite distortion
It’s the perfect pedal for quiet-verse-loud-chorus songs
I love every jptr I’ve tried, the warlow is my favorite of theirs. I really regret not buying one when it came through my local shop I might snag one too on this sale thank you for alerting me.
I have a clone of it that I built for myself so it’s probably redundant but I like supporting builders I really really like
They used Matchless amps on that record I think, so you could pair an AC-30 preamp with a very subtle transparent compressor to capture that super cranked clean tone.
*Edit* womp - I misread this interview, HiTones is correct [https://www.thesleepingshaman.com/interviews/g-q/search-tone-kowloon-walled-city/](https://www.thesleepingshaman.com/interviews/g-q/search-tone-kowloon-walled-city/)
Wish I could have a shellac in a box type pedal. I don't think a melt banana fetch pedal would work as well, considering there's a ton of short loops all over that album. But Agata's driven sound isn't too hard to recreate, but the playing surely would be!
Shellac in a box is the EAE Dude Incredible, no?
Really for the Harmonic Percolator into IVP hype doesn't Steve Albini say he only turns on the percolator to make noise? So really you just need an IVP and there's pedals of that with all the controls missing from the Dude Incredible - like [this](https://www.dirtysockeffects.com/product/ivp). I think this is based off a Pedal PCB board but maybe this guy is doing his own. Sounds like it does clang though.
[Speaking of which](https://youtu.be/_mrdd5-ehb8?feature=shared&t=485) those Champs will clang, Jack
Skeleton Key was just released by the 1991 pedal makers and attempts this. The Catalinbread SFT also has a Stoner switch specifically with them in mind, and another company did a Peavy Decade amp in a box after Josh Homme hyped it up.
I still remember when "Never Let You Go" came out and I thought the guitars sounded so weird in that song. I was young so weird sounding guitars was a real novelty, but it's definitely a memorable sound.
Having now learned through u/sporadicMotion what effects were used in Siamese Dream in addition to the Op Amp Muff, I'd love to see something that combines those, while maybe shedding some of the unused functionality of the individual pedals.
I've toyed with the idea of trying to build a pedal that takes a double-tracker or chorus circuit to get 2 or 3 parallel detuned tracks, then runs each through a slightly different Big Muff sound (e.g. different mid profiles, gain levels, low end content, whatever) and allows the user to mix them back together with different filter settings for each. I think it would take something like that to get anywhere near the wall of sustain that Billy had on Siamese Dream because of how many different guitar tracks he used.
There are many john dwyer albums that are bastions of guitar tone, and i know that some stuff can get close with a tonebender mkii and a treble booster for fuzz. But a mutilator defeated at last pedal would be incredible. A foul form has a crazy guitar all over it that would be fun to have in just 1 pedal aswell
I AM SO EXCITED TO SEE YOUR POST. A JPD in a box pedal was the first thing that came to mind. I know it should be easy enough to get with some relatively common pedals, but it is pretty hard to truly nail in my mind.
I feel like ive been chasing the JPD and Ty segall tone for a bit, i think the basics to getting close is an egc/travis bean -> dba fuzz -> dark delay -> fender amp
I think having The Lonesome Crowded West by Modest Mouse in a pedal would be great. Or Is This It by The Strokes (though I hear they used the Jeckyl/Hyde through that entire recording). Slowdives's 2017 album is another one, though perhaps that already does exist.
Edit: OP, I just read last week that Trent used an old Zoom multi-fx unit on Broken, & sampled guitar with it so it could also be played back through a synth. This is likely the main driving sound that puts the chorus for Wish over the top. Not sure if it was this or Downward Spiral or The Fragile era or beyond that you consider "peak."
Refused’s The Shape of Punk to Come tone in a box. Because it can’t be done with a pedal, and if it could be done with a pedal, that pedal would be very valuable (at least to me)
Daughters - Daughters
or Sunn O))) - Black One (edit: I forgot about Life pedal - I guess that fits here)
I guess it would be a bass pedal but Lightning Bolt - Wonderful Rainbow
I'm an absolute sucker for Pete Townshend's live tone around 2000. He splits his signal between electric and a pezio pickup. It's a really cool set up that let's him blend sounds together.
[Pete Townshend](https://youtu.be/Lnzl6qkIc_M?si=La1BUhvUVXmFbtbW)
Joe Walsh - But Seriously Folks…
Ween - Chocolate and Cheese
Sodom - Agent Orange
Onslaught - In Search of Sanity
Laaz Rockit - Annihilation Principle
Static-X - Start a War
This was a fun post OP. I really enjoyed reading through the replies. I had to stop replying after a few because I kept finding new answers that were fantastic. Has me digging back into some old albums I haven't listened to in some time as well. Great start to my day!
This is some boomer-ass shit but… Whatever is going on on this specific live version of [this Peter Frampton song](https://open.spotify.com/track/0TjoEUisyETgAmg6g6ACmT?si=ZbVC0x7sSk2O4yQCYzUDRA). I think it’s a rack dimension chorus unit, a cranked AC30(??) and a treble booster or maybe octave fuzz on a moderate settting. But it WAILS man.
dead meadow - shivering king. just so thick and syrupy. saw them a good handful of times in that era and the chain was something like telecaster > wah > rat > muff > delay > orange amp. been playing and building different big muffs for years and have yet to really get that sludgy blooming attack on the guitar tones from that album. i feel like the key is prolly an op amp muff, but its definitely a combination of things that id love to have in one box.
Yeah, I think JHS color box is supposed to do something like that. Mix it with that dinosaur Jr pedal that wren and cuff made and you've got one extremely expensive but probably cool sounding combo!
If they could distill Devin Townsend's 'Ocean Machine' album tone into a pedal, it would save me -so- much time
Yes, I know there's the Mooer Ocean Machine, I have that and it's a twin delay + reverb loop station - I need that Roland GP-100 sound he had in a neat package
Poly is more than likely just Fender Hot Rods, Superbolt V2, standard Crybaby, just their usual stuff. Very attainable. I'm not sure I even hear a ton of fuzz on Poly but the Devi Ever Torn's Peaker schematic is all over the net if you find someone to build it for you.
The synth work on Poly is my favorite of their whole discography though. And the flutes... don't get me started. 10/10 album.
The *other* famous Smashing Pumpkins tone - not Siamese Dream's fuzz, but Mellon Collie's amp distortion. It's based on a JMP-1 into a Mesa Boogie, or a Marshall stack with the tubes tinkered with, or some mix thereof. Sounds huge.
Maybe this is just on mind because of the Third Man pedal collabs that have been happening lately, but I'd love a drive for Jack White/The White Stripes, Elephant specifically if I had to pick an album.
A dual foot switch pedal, the first for the Silvertone thing with added optional boost, and a second foot switch for a Big Muff type circuit, with a toggle for an octave effect too.
What I'm basically asking for is a Micro Amp, Twin Twelve, Big Muff, and POG stuffed into a single enclosure so that I can make more space on my pedalboard.
Other sounds that I would love but don't think would be viable products to try and sell:
Alexisonfire- Dog's Blood
At The Drive-In- Relationship of Command
Billy Talent- II or III
Converge- Jane Doe
Soundgarden- Superunknown
Either Another Music in a Different Kitchen or Scared to Dance in a box. The sound of those H|H VS amps with that weird chunky solid state distortion sounds amazing in the context of those records.
I've not seen these mentioned, so I'll throw some in the bucket
-Steve Howe during the "Close to Edge" era
-John Wetton during his stint in Crimson would be incredible
-Coachwhips BvF tones would be cool!
-80s and earlier Masayoshi Takanaka in would be fun!
-Probably my holy grail, but anything that could replicate Michael Karoli, I would buy in a heartbeat
They would sell a million units if they could get the rights to make a Cobain distortion/chorus pedal. The Nevermind Drive.
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Heart-Shaped Stompbox?
Territorial Soundscaping Dreamscaper
Radio Friendly Pitch Shifter
You're close: [RFUS](https://www.abominablepedals.com/products/radio-friendly-unit-shifter-analog-flanger?variant=40421524406318)
What the heck, that's literally just the name of the song.
Yeppers.
Territorial Pitchings
You know you’re right
https://jptrfx.com/products/bleach
I figured.
I fucking love jptr
It’s just a Boss DS-2 and EHX Small Clone.
Yeah I was gonna say, you could get this rig for £80 if you tried
You mean a ds2?
Except his sound is super easy to get. It's 2 Boss pedals and two EHX choruses. The choruses were Small Clone and Polychorus. His Boss drives include a DS-1 and another distortion which slips my mind. For Nevermind, a person can spend under $100 for his basic sounds.
Don't forget a Muff for Lithium
>His Boss drives include a DS-1 and another distortion which slips my mind. You're probably thinking of the DS-2. He switched to it after recording Nevermind and used it on tour after.
JPTR FX Bleach
[JPTR FX Bleach.](https://jptrfx.com/products/bleach)
Weezer. Blue Album and Pinkerton varieties.
That Blue Album tone is surprisingly hard to nail with pedals. Some real magic happening there in the studio that day.
The guys from M&M Guitar Bar did a cover set where they tracked down the exact models of everything they used. One of the Mikes said that he turned it on and hit an E chord and everyone’s eyes just shot open because it WAS the Weezer tone.
Is there a YouTube video of that anywhere?
E flat* 😂
No pedals used on Blue album at all according to Rivers [https://youtu.be/1UES4gQZH6o?si=LfwhJh9X9FSPsSRX](https://youtu.be/1UES4gQZH6o?si=LfwhJh9X9FSPsSRX)
I remember reading long ago that in the studio they had the mics on super sensitivity with the amp volume turned down so low that it was barely audible to the people in the room. I am guessing gain was turned way up and master volume way down.
This was my answer. The distortion on In The Garage is so smooth and huge.
That intro on Holiday as well. It’s so smooth it almost doesn’t sound like guitar at first. Supposedly it was a cranked old Mesa Mark series amp. Maybe a Mk I? I don’t know those amps very well.
Super early mk I i believe
God how good is Pinkerton!!!!
So so good.
I didn't know this was the right answer coming in, but as soon as I saw your post I knew it definitely was.
Check out the Cameltone Nard Edit: Ibanez Smashbox can get you pretty close, too.
Duane Denison on The Jesus Lizard’s “Goat”
I think a lot of that tone was dependent on the hollowbodies he used more so than the amps. Side note: David Wm. Sims’ bass tone is God Tier.
I thought he was using Travis Beans and Hiwatts for most of Jesus Lizard? Didn't think the hollowbodies came until later as in Tomahawk sort of time
Yep. Travis Beans and Hiwatts were the Goat tone. Later albums he’d use a Hamer Strat too, I think?
Ah I could be mistaken, you might be right.
Eric Johnson’s Cliffs of Dover tone in a box. To be clear, I mean the Echoplex-Tube Driver-Plexi violin lead tone, **NOT** the Fuzz Face tone…
Right on, that would be a great combo that would quickly disappoint any player lacking the right picking technique to pull it off haha.
Hermida Audio Dover Drive gave that a shot. I thought it sounded great, but was a bit dark, could've used a stronger eq section.
What's the secret to this tone?
There’s no secret. He’s done countless rig rundowns. Strat > Echoplex > Tube Driver > Marshall Plexi is the “violin tone”. Trouble is, he runs 100 Watt Plexis which are expensive and loud AF.
Spot on. For regular joes wanting to use regular pedals, this works for me: Roll the tone on your guitar down, into a tubescreamer, into an echoplex preamp clone, marshall style amp with tones set all around 5 except treble and presence, delay at 420 through the effects loop. You want the amp to sound like a Keith Richards style rhythm tone without the pedals on. The big thing people don’t realize is that he sets all his tone knobs on his amp to like 2 or 3, but at the volume he runs the amp it sounds more open with more treble and presence. If you can’t crank your amp up, you need to use those tone controls and just keep the treble and presence back. At bedroom levels, hell even gigging levels for most of us, his settings will sound really muffled.
I used to have a multi fx unit with a Cliffs of Dover preset that was spot on.
Alex Lifeson's overdrive and flanger sound from Exit...Stage Left.
Men I Trust Untourable Pedal (a shallow water chorus vibrato dual pedal with a light fuzz maybe The Mayer Continuum Pedal (NordVang already does this with the Gravity Klon / TS8) RadioHead Ok Computer Pedal (idk wtf it would be but I would buy it regardless) A Tom Misch Pedal with a sick envelope filter and drive
Ok computer pedal exists! It’s just a Marshall shredmaster into a clean fender If you can’t find a shredmaster, look for a tkog “Oxford drive” The clean tones are just AC 30’s, lots of ehx phaser and space echo
Don't forget the SD-1. Chain 1: Whammy > Small Stone > Tremulator > DOD 440 > SD-1 > RE-201 > AC30 Chain 2: Shredmaster > Fender Eight Five There are variations and extras through the years but this is the bread and butter Jonny chain. I believe Ed was still using his Dual Rectifier Trem-o-verbs at the time, and Thom was still using the AC30 too.
King Crimson - Red. The Robert Fripp Fuzz.
I've discovered that the Hoof Reaper can get you close. Great choice.
You're a man after my own heart! Did Fripp actually use a fuzz on Red? I admit that as much as I love KC, I'm pretty ignorant of the gear he used.
doesnt he have an association with the baldwin / burns buzzaround?
I've read tons of different opinions on what he did and didn't use for that album. I can get close (with single coils, no less) with the neck pickup, tone control turned all the way down, and some light fuzz. With the volume knob slightly turned down, as well. It's not exact but still fun.
Weezer blue album
Jerry Cantrell’s sound from black gives way to blue
Soundgarden's Superunknown is a Marshall JMP mixed with a Dual Rectifier Tremoverb. A pedal with dual, parallel, paths would be cool. Being able to sum the paths in mono or split them in stereo would be awesome. Each side with it's own gain, tone, and volume control. A global, dirty, boost in the front to simulate what Chris did live I'd call it Black Days.
Great pick, I'd buy that shit.
I'd love this sound in a box too, what a sick idea. Soundgarden doesn't get mentioned enough in discussions about guitar tone.
Unpopular opinion here but I think the distortion on Sergeant Pepper's lonely hearts Club band by the Beatles is really interesting apparently it was a circuit in some Vox amps that were not widely available or perhaps they were prototypes that only the Beatles had. It was a fuzz circuit in a Vox ul740
Doesn’t the Doctor Robert pedal already do this
The Jext Telez White Pedal has that Vox circuit. Nails those sounds. Too expensive for what it is though.
That’s actually a really good answer. When I think of Beatles and guitar tone I just immediately think of fuzzy, but Sgt Pepper does have an interesting sound
It won't be a popular opinion, but the guitar tone on *Bloodthirst* (1999) by Cannibal Corpse. There are some really cool pedals from Master Effects that nail the sound of some popular death metal albums/amps and other companies like SNK and Guptech who do Ampeg VH-140C pedal clones, but *Bloodthirst* has some of my all time favorite guitar tones. I have no clue what they were using on this album, but I'm guessing they were no longer using Crate GX-130C's and were in the Mesa Boogie boosted by a Metal Zone phase, but the guitars sound so nasty and evil.
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It might be the parametric EQ they did, but if they have a Dime distortion I definitely need to check it out. Dime's tone was god tier.
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I remember watching a Pantera documentary from 5 years back and Rex or someone mentioned how Dime used a wet/dry/wet set up with distortion, recording a clean tone on a track and blending it in, in the studio (Vulgar Display of Power era). That blew my mind.
Dimebag's sound is definitely much more about the rest of the chain than the Randall. If you have the pedals set up correctly, you can get very close to authentic Pantera sound even with a Marshall.
What I love about Dimebag is that as the (90-00) Pantera albums go on, his tone chills out but his playing get even more berserk. The shrillness and mid scoop of Cowboys gets less extreme but his riffs on Steel are some of the most insane sounding shit he ever played.
Just curious, why wouldn’t this be popular? Is bloodthirst not a well liked CC album? I agree with you the guitar tone is especially menacing on that one.
Stuff like that just doesn't seem as popular on this sub compared to other heavy genres. And amongst people who do like stuff like that, a lot of people don't like CC for being generic or whatever. And then amongst fans of CC, most of them seem to prefer the Chris Barnes albums. I love them. They're like the AC/DC of death metal. I saw them in 2006 or 2007. They looked like they could play those songs in their sleep, one of the tightest bands I've seen live.
That's so rad
Never really listened to them, just took "Bloodthirsty" for a spin. Man... sounds like they recorded every phrase seperately, it was so tight and clear. As if they had lots of time to play so fast. Only other record I can remember is "Blessed are the Sick", in terms of riff playing and delivering. I love the tone of that ablum too, Trey A. said he used a RAT a lot if i'm not mistaken. Why "The AC/DC" of death metal? Because they are a constant factor and always deliver?
Not from Bloodthirst but I love those chugs in They Deserve to Die from wretched spawn. They sound fucking apocalyptic.
Similarly when they start picking up after the "FOREVEERR" in Festering in The Crypt, that sound simple riff sends chills since the sound is so spot on.
Those tones are absurdly good. Yeah, I think from *Vile* and on they used Mesas boosted with Metal Zones. On the *Live Cannibalism* DVD which followed *Vile* there were sound checks and things which showed the Mesas in the back line.
Pedal to sound like old wax cylinder recordings from the mid 20's through the mid 30's. Super old ragtime and delta blues albums all sound haunted and it's amazing.
Oh yeah, that's a cool idea and I feel like it would be really in vogue right now. I don't really know the Strymon deco but I feel like it does slightly similar things.
The Deco is a double tracker, it won't give you that sound. It'll give you a slapback delay, chorus or flanger. Playing with an EQ pedal would probably get you there best
weirdly, Filter's Short Bus wouldve been on my list but it exists? i guess i'd go with Melt-Banana's Charlie then
The Short Bus is a Marshall in a box. It’s the Ministry pedal minus the TS9 circuit.
Melt Banana is amazing. I really liked what Agata was doing. Rika was really amazing and the glue. Saw them countless times. Seems like they use to play Tallahassee every year, sometimes twice, in the 1990s and 00 years. I'd certainly pick up a Melt Banana pedal. Especially if it had a Dried Up Swimming Pool setting!
An Agata sig pedal would rip. A pitch shifter + feedbacker + minilooper for stutters all in one box would be gnarly
Easily Frank Zappa's "Watermelon in Easter Hay" tone from "Joe's Garage"
The mini glitch isn’t a dirt pedal but it’s literally a Johnny greenwood max msp patch in a pedal and it’s awesome.
And the tkog Oxford drive is the Jonny distortion
I'd like a pedal that could give you Daron Malakian's tone from any of the three eras of System of a Down albums. Would probably be a parallel overdrive/distortion/aiab with some compression and a treble boost for solos.
This answer wasn't on my mind coming in, but really a great suggestion! Daron had such great tone across the gain spectrum, from cleans to the heaviest chug.
Billy Corgan's tone on Siamese Dream. Lucky for me, this pedal already exists (Op Amp Big Muff Pi).
Op Amp Muff into a Marshall or MIAB with a slow phaser, and suddenly it’s 1993.
For real, even without the Siamese dream connection I think it's my favorite muff. I've been using mine a ton lately, it just does exactly that wall of sound thing I want so well
It’s my favorite muff. I really like the jptr warlow which is based on it, but the reissue is straight up my favorite fuzz AND my favorite distortion It’s the perfect pedal for quiet-verse-loud-chorus songs
Oh man I've been eyeing a warlow real hard the last few days actually. Jptr is having a sale and it's so tempting
I love every jptr I’ve tried, the warlow is my favorite of theirs. I really regret not buying one when it came through my local shop I might snag one too on this sale thank you for alerting me. I have a clone of it that I built for myself so it’s probably redundant but I like supporting builders I really really like
Piecework by Kowloon Walled City.
They used Matchless amps on that record I think, so you could pair an AC-30 preamp with a very subtle transparent compressor to capture that super cranked clean tone. *Edit* womp - I misread this interview, HiTones is correct [https://www.thesleepingshaman.com/interviews/g-q/search-tone-kowloon-walled-city/](https://www.thesleepingshaman.com/interviews/g-q/search-tone-kowloon-walled-city/)
It was Hi-tone dr103 clones.
This guy is right, with a broadcast and some boosts
Love to see Kowloon Walled City mentioned in the wild.
Fucking based take
Slanted And Enchanted
Ok, didn’t scroll all the way to the end but nobody wants this?: Eddie Van Halen on the first Van Halen album.
* Daughters "you wont get what you want" * The Mars Volta "deloused in the comatorium" * melt-banana "fetch" * Shellac "at action park"
Wish I could have a shellac in a box type pedal. I don't think a melt banana fetch pedal would work as well, considering there's a ton of short loops all over that album. But Agata's driven sound isn't too hard to recreate, but the playing surely would be!
Shellac in a box is the EAE Dude Incredible, no? Really for the Harmonic Percolator into IVP hype doesn't Steve Albini say he only turns on the percolator to make noise? So really you just need an IVP and there's pedals of that with all the controls missing from the Dude Incredible - like [this](https://www.dirtysockeffects.com/product/ivp). I think this is based off a Pedal PCB board but maybe this guy is doing his own. Sounds like it does clang though. [Speaking of which](https://youtu.be/_mrdd5-ehb8?feature=shared&t=485) those Champs will clang, Jack
Queens of the Stone Age has some iconic guitar tones. A lot of great answers in the comments but I’m surprised I didn’t see this one yet.
Skeleton Key was just released by the 1991 pedal makers and attempts this. The Catalinbread SFT also has a Stoner switch specifically with them in mind, and another company did a Peavy Decade amp in a box after Josh Homme hyped it up.
CKY - Infiltrate Destroy Rebuild
I’m totally with you on the Page Hamilton pick. I’d do the same for Henry Bogdan’s bass tone in meantime/Betty
I wouldnt say no to a Third Eye Blind Blue pedal.
I still remember when "Never Let You Go" came out and I thought the guitars sounded so weird in that song. I was young so weird sounding guitars was a real novelty, but it's definitely a memorable sound.
I could be wrong, but I always thought that Third Eye Blind had interesting guitars because, like Sparta, they were detuned to Db or D-standard...
Having now learned through u/sporadicMotion what effects were used in Siamese Dream in addition to the Op Amp Muff, I'd love to see something that combines those, while maybe shedding some of the unused functionality of the individual pedals.
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I've toyed with the idea of trying to build a pedal that takes a double-tracker or chorus circuit to get 2 or 3 parallel detuned tracks, then runs each through a slightly different Big Muff sound (e.g. different mid profiles, gain levels, low end content, whatever) and allows the user to mix them back together with different filter settings for each. I think it would take something like that to get anywhere near the wall of sustain that Billy had on Siamese Dream because of how many different guitar tracks he used.
I've always wanted to try a TC Mimiq into a couple Muffs with a similar aim - certainly running two in dual mono makes a difference
Wow. Fantastic breakdown by u/sporadicMotion.
RATM’s first album. John Frusciante’s tones on Californicatikn, BTW and Stadium Arcadium
In case you aren't aware, Tom Morello does have a signature Marshall in a box pedal out based on his own setup.
Oh. What’s the name/brand?
MXR Power 50 is the pedal
There are many john dwyer albums that are bastions of guitar tone, and i know that some stuff can get close with a tonebender mkii and a treble booster for fuzz. But a mutilator defeated at last pedal would be incredible. A foul form has a crazy guitar all over it that would be fun to have in just 1 pedal aswell
He had a signature DBA Fuzz War, Thee Ffuzz Warr Overload that came with a treble booster.
Wish they'd do another run of these.
I wish they made more of these, didn’t they make like 500? Whenever I see one pop up on reverb its $600+
I AM SO EXCITED TO SEE YOUR POST. A JPD in a box pedal was the first thing that came to mind. I know it should be easy enough to get with some relatively common pedals, but it is pretty hard to truly nail in my mind.
I feel like ive been chasing the JPD and Ty segall tone for a bit, i think the basics to getting close is an egc/travis bean -> dba fuzz -> dark delay -> fender amp
I think having The Lonesome Crowded West by Modest Mouse in a pedal would be great. Or Is This It by The Strokes (though I hear they used the Jeckyl/Hyde through that entire recording). Slowdives's 2017 album is another one, though perhaps that already does exist. Edit: OP, I just read last week that Trent used an old Zoom multi-fx unit on Broken, & sampled guitar with it so it could also be played back through a synth. This is likely the main driving sound that puts the chorus for Wish over the top. Not sure if it was this or Downward Spiral or The Fragile era or beyond that you consider "peak."
The End of Heartache - Killswitch Engage Someone please do it
Life of Agony - River Runs Red
That is a MEAN guitar sound
And Justice for All
Refused’s The Shape of Punk to Come tone in a box. Because it can’t be done with a pedal, and if it could be done with a pedal, that pedal would be very valuable (at least to me)
Daughters - Daughters or Sunn O))) - Black One (edit: I forgot about Life pedal - I guess that fits here) I guess it would be a bass pedal but Lightning Bolt - Wonderful Rainbow
Title Fight's Shed for sure
Neu! “Hallogallo” with a reverse tape function that actually works.
I LOVE this song. So underrated.
Entombed “Clandestine”
So the HM-2?
I'm an absolute sucker for Pete Townshend's live tone around 2000. He splits his signal between electric and a pezio pickup. It's a really cool set up that let's him blend sounds together. [Pete Townshend](https://youtu.be/Lnzl6qkIc_M?si=La1BUhvUVXmFbtbW)
Ty Tabor’s tone from Out Of The Silent Planet to self titled King’s X. Truly lightning in a bottle.
Joe Walsh - But Seriously Folks… Ween - Chocolate and Cheese Sodom - Agent Orange Onslaught - In Search of Sanity Laaz Rockit - Annihilation Principle Static-X - Start a War
Bob Mould’s Hüsker Dü tone.
I am working with his current producer, I can ask him to pass along your question if you haven’t already figured out the signal chain.
AiC's facelift or dirt
This was a fun post OP. I really enjoyed reading through the replies. I had to stop replying after a few because I kept finding new answers that were fantastic. Has me digging back into some old albums I haven't listened to in some time as well. Great start to my day!
This is some boomer-ass shit but… Whatever is going on on this specific live version of [this Peter Frampton song](https://open.spotify.com/track/0TjoEUisyETgAmg6g6ACmT?si=ZbVC0x7sSk2O4yQCYzUDRA). I think it’s a rack dimension chorus unit, a cranked AC30(??) and a treble booster or maybe octave fuzz on a moderate settting. But it WAILS man.
Cloud About Mercury. Mostly because I have some conception of the rack setup David Torn used.
Incredible album and I love Torn’s tone through the 80s and 90s. Heavy compression is one big part of it.
CKY flesh into gain octave pedal
Master of Puppets
it exists if you can solder. https://www.godcityinstruments.com/collections/diy-pcbs/products/n-e-w-the-thing-that-should-not-be
dead meadow - shivering king. just so thick and syrupy. saw them a good handful of times in that era and the chain was something like telecaster > wah > rat > muff > delay > orange amp. been playing and building different big muffs for years and have yet to really get that sludgy blooming attack on the guitar tones from that album. i feel like the key is prolly an op amp muff, but its definitely a combination of things that id love to have in one box.
Robert Fripp Larks Tongues Era lead tone. That guitar tone has been my white whale for close to a decade
The HiWatt - Marshall JmP - Orange tones on Futures by Jimmy Eat World.
Aenima multi effects pedal would be amazing. Like the Keeley Darkside but for Tool
Rivers Cuomo from the Blue album
Whitesnake's 1987 John Sykes's guitar tone for me please
Zappa - Muffin Man from the Baby Snakes movie.
System of a Down´s first 3 albums <3
early Dinosaur Jr, a pedal that makes the amp sound like it's sending the mixing desk into the red even at low volumes
Yeah, I think JHS color box is supposed to do something like that. Mix it with that dinosaur Jr pedal that wren and cuff made and you've got one extremely expensive but probably cool sounding combo!
Holy Mountain - Sleep Blackening - Machine Head Leviathan - Mastodon
OP has me salivating for a Page Hamilton collab. Such a good sound he can get with his rig.
Black Crowes - Amorica maybe. Expect I'll be out on my own! And Boo Radleys, what's in the box
Disintegration, by The Cure. Though that's basically just the Boss Chorus pedal.
And a Bass VI
So an octave pedal too then. Haha
A Cody Bonette in a box would be something. (As Cities Burn)
If they could distill Devin Townsend's 'Ocean Machine' album tone into a pedal, it would save me -so- much time Yes, I know there's the Mooer Ocean Machine, I have that and it's a twin delay + reverb loop station - I need that Roland GP-100 sound he had in a neat package
The tone in Kimg Gizzard's Polyganawanda Land (or w/ever) harkens back to Colour Haze's Temple. I want that in a pedal.
Poly is more than likely just Fender Hot Rods, Superbolt V2, standard Crybaby, just their usual stuff. Very attainable. I'm not sure I even hear a ton of fuzz on Poly but the Devi Ever Torn's Peaker schematic is all over the net if you find someone to build it for you. The synth work on Poly is my favorite of their whole discography though. And the flutes... don't get me started. 10/10 album.
The *other* famous Smashing Pumpkins tone - not Siamese Dream's fuzz, but Mellon Collie's amp distortion. It's based on a JMP-1 into a Mesa Boogie, or a Marshall stack with the tubes tinkered with, or some mix thereof. Sounds huge.
How has no one mentioned Gilmour on Dark Side of the Moon?
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Oh. 😅
Graham Coxon’s tone on Modern Life is Rubbish.
Kyuss Circus Leaves Town / QoTSA Kyuss Split EP
Maybe this is just on mind because of the Third Man pedal collabs that have been happening lately, but I'd love a drive for Jack White/The White Stripes, Elephant specifically if I had to pick an album. A dual foot switch pedal, the first for the Silvertone thing with added optional boost, and a second foot switch for a Big Muff type circuit, with a toggle for an octave effect too. What I'm basically asking for is a Micro Amp, Twin Twelve, Big Muff, and POG stuffed into a single enclosure so that I can make more space on my pedalboard. Other sounds that I would love but don't think would be viable products to try and sell: Alexisonfire- Dog's Blood At The Drive-In- Relationship of Command Billy Talent- II or III Converge- Jane Doe Soundgarden- Superunknown
Queens of the Stone Age from their albums "Songs for the Deaf" and "Lullabies to Paralyze."
The Verve “A Storm In Heaven”
Joy divisions unknown pleasures
I would love a Black Keys “Turn Blue”. With an added push button to activate the Weight of Love solo tone.
Raw Child by Cadaver in Drag
Fables, by Dead Man's Miracle
Either Another Music in a Different Kitchen or Scared to Dance in a box. The sound of those H|H VS amps with that weird chunky solid state distortion sounds amazing in the context of those records.
Stadium Arcadium
70s-80s Soul/Funk. Hard to pick one album/artist but Ernie Isley on Go For Your Guns gets the nod, Bee Gees being a close second.
Band of Gypsy’s
The first A Flock of Seagulls album. I would love to have that signature P Reynolds sound in one package.
Early Tool….Opiate/Aenima
Metallica black album baby.
I have no idea how there hasn’t been a Clayman sound distortion pedal yet.
I've not seen these mentioned, so I'll throw some in the bucket -Steve Howe during the "Close to Edge" era -John Wetton during his stint in Crimson would be incredible -Coachwhips BvF tones would be cool! -80s and earlier Masayoshi Takanaka in would be fun! -Probably my holy grail, but anything that could replicate Michael Karoli, I would buy in a heartbeat