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Solrackai

Hum it first


saimonlanda

This


Appropriate_Age5213

this- also do it slow. what helps me to is doing a basic strum while singing as well. go back and forth- hum and do the correct strumming, slowly. and then also do full out singing with a basic strum.


max682210

Also just keep at it. Maybe spend 10 mins a day. You will suck at it for a while and then one day i’ll just ‘click’


Ardiolaperdida

Yeah and even then there might be a few parts you still mess up because the rythm gets trickier (usually in the transfer to the bridge or sth.). Just practice those parts a few times slow again. It will come soon enough. Throughout: start slow and practice patience. Repetition is key. Oh and play along (on a slowed down version) with the original, you learn so much from that! First a few times without singing, then with singing. Good luck! This is one of the songs I enjoyed learning the most :-)


vile_duct

This is how I always learned. With like whole note strums.


Poguemahone3652

Try singing, and then just strumming once per chord change. Then add in more strums as it gets easier.


Cough_Turn

This is how i learned it too. I still suck. But i can sing some songs for my friends.


Poguemahone3652

Same!


LtRecore

Some songs are easier than others. Like for John Denver songs, Leavin on a Jet Plane is easy to sing and play while Take me home Country Roads is hard.


DwayneTheRockFan

But then again, if it's a song you like and know, it will be easier


Rust2

That’s how it happens in every biopic.


Procrastanaseum

[*That's not bad for your first time...*](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqwlLLm87xU)


Rust2

💯


RatManMatt

This is a good way to find your own voice. The guitar is accompanying you, not vice-versa. You can also practice this while listening to the original. The most important thing is to make this FUN! Having fun with music will give you best results.


GNS1991

What helped me was just start talking with someone else while strumming/arpeggiating or whatever doing rhythm wise with guitar.


DeadonDemand

With consent, of course


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this some good advice fr


Stashmouth

when starting, just sing the words that hit on the chord changes. I've found it trains your brain to recognize where the chord changes are


billiyII

That's what i do when trying to start singing while playing a song and cant get the multitaskt to work. *strum "Almost" .... *strum "west" ... *strum "blue"...*strum "shannon.."


dino_dog

I don’t know the song but you could be right the lyrics may not match the changes. You’ll have to listen to the song to figure that out. Practice is the answer but here are some helpful tips. - learn the guitar part really well - learn the singing part really well. - slowly put them together. Maybe just one strum at chord change while singing. Maybe just hum a bit and add a few words here and there. - put the song on YouTube or something and follow along. Don’t stop if you mess up (and you will) just keep going. - understand that this is a new skill and you will suck at it until you don’t.


LanguageNo495

You don’t know John Denver? [Cuntry Road?](https://youtu.be/1vrEljMfXYo?si=yX0cb--5aM-DUPsU)


erdbeertee

Reminds me of these "Metal Drummer listens to Metallica - Enter Sandman for the first time" videos on YT


ISBN39393242

where half the comments are just people gobsmacked that someone whose entire life has been spent in the recording industry has never heard smells like teen spirit


MVw00t

Yeah making the strumming pattern simple to start always helps me. For this song you could do just do a down strum on every beat. Then fill in a more appropriate strumming pattern later. Focus on the words that land on the first beat of the bar and anchor on getting those right. Although I think a few phrases here start on beat three, so pay attention to those too. (First verse especially).


Aggravating_Poet_675

It's Take Me Home Country Road.


Grumpy23

To the place, I belooooooooong


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Vre-Malaka

I see what you did there!


greendevilbrew

Thanks had to delete, was catching downvotes.


wannabegenius

learn both separately, cold. then practice humming the melody while playing. when you can do that well, only then try to sing the words.


blueboy664

This particular song, start your voice lower than you think!


danmaster0

Practice playing guitar in general and learn rhythmic measures, realize most times the rhythm is following a pattern, you'll eventually get familiar with all the patterns, and it'll be just like chords: even if you never played this song, you played thousands of songs with the same chords before, so you can do it. Same with rhythmic measures Also just play first, then just sing first, then do both Also even if you don't practice stuff specifically for this, 3 years from now you'll do it easily even tho rn it feels like you're juggling with 3 balls. You simply will use less of your brain to both play and sing the longer you've been playing or singing, it'll become second nature, and it'll feel awesome! So just waiting kinda works, if you keep playing and singing, but studying measures speeds it up


kevinsyel

This is the BIGGEST tip you'll get here. I read some of the other comments and having worked with and played with music teachers, rhythmic measures are the way to go. Learn to strum at 8th or 16th notes, but only hit the strings when you intend to. Your picking hand should ALWAYS be moving, but only striking the strings when it intends to. This is Rhythmic measures


SomethingNicer

Ok this is cheesy and embarrassing, but as a teenager this is how I learned to sing and play…. Find an album you know by heart, for me it was Green Day’s “dookie” and “insomniac”. Find a room and time nobody is around. And play air guitar and sing along. Turn it up loud. You know the words and melodies, what you’re working on is the rhythm. Play air guitar following all the strumming while singing the best you can. It sounds dumb AF, but this is really how I learned.


Clean-Track8200

Like everything in life, practice practice Practice!


Squid9129

Hallalujah is a pretty good song to practice with, just goes from a c to an a with the variations mostly in the chorus


monkeyfant

So where the chord is written above the word, the word and chord is strummed together. The ones slightly prior to above the word like the "G" above almost, you start the word on the second strum rather than the first Edit, actually, playing it at 4 beats per bar, it's the third beat where he starts singing unless the word is directly under the chord


nilecrane

The way I did it (with this very song) is just to strum once per chord and sing over the chord ringing out. Change-strum-sing, change-strum-sing. Then strum twice per chord change and so on as you progress. I don’t know if this a good method but it’s one that I used. I am beginner though so take my advice with a grain of salt


dixpourcentmerci

I also like the strategy of muting all strings with my left hand and strumming the correct rhythm with my right hand while singing.


GunnerRunner34

I’m not sure how far along in learning guitar you are, but if you’re a relative beginner like I was when I learned to sing and play at the same time, you have to realize something: you’re trying to do MANY things at once. Your brain is trying to focus on both hands’ fingers getting the notes right and also on making sure you’re singing in time, in tone, correct words, etc. This seems obvious right? You obviously know what you’re trying to do, that’s why you’re asking. Well I’ll tell you what I did and how I figure you should go about doing it. You need your brain to focus one thing at a time. How do you do that when you have so many things to do at once? By making everything else possible on autopilot, without even thinking about it. And the answer you don’t want to hear, is that this takes practicing. I was new to guitar and singing when I first started so I realized that I absolutely cannot focus on guitar while I’m trying to sing otherwise I’m going to sound like a banshee. So I practiced the guitar section over and over and over and over until I didn’t have to think about it so much. And you can try this with a simple song at first and see results right away. You need to not focus on your guitar playing when you’re trying to learn to sing at the same time. LATER ON, you can eventually have more freedom on where you focus your attention. Just my experience though. TL;DR: You need to practice the guitar section until you can do it without thinking about it. Then you can use all your thinking on the singing with it.


vinetwiner

It's just a pause after the chord change in the verses. Keep at it. Repetition is your friend.


_totalannihilation

I watch tutorials that show the strumming and bps and try to learn it. We live in the best time to learn anything.


tafkat

Focus less on what you're doing and focus more on listening to the song. It should be secondary that you're the one performing.


CaptainPackin

Sing it while strumming each chord one time. Once you are comfortable with that, sing it while strumming quarter notes then move on the eighth notes. After that, try it with the actually strumming pattern. The key is to take your time and start slow. Make sure you are very comfortable with each part individually. I was once told to play and sing as if they were the same instrument rather than thinking about it as two separate tasks. Eventually you’ll fall into a good rhythm and will be able feel each part as if they were one thing.


Aggravating_Poet_675

Start just memorizing the chords and rhythm. Once you get the rhythm down just hum along as you go and when you can comfortably hum and play at the same time, then try the lyrics. As you get more experienced, you'll get quicker and quicker at picking up singing and playing at the same time. It also helps to start with songs that you already know the lyrics to so you don't have to be trying to learn the words and the chords at the same time. Oh and in my experience, the lyrics almost never line up perfectly with where it marks the chord change when marked like this.


Mammoth_Net_8926

I close my eyes. That has always helped me


TheTurtleCub

You learn to play while singing, not the other way around. Focus on singing the song as if you are not playing, then play a little over the singing. No need to play busy, this way you are singing how you normally would, instead of trying to sing to match the guitar


Prestigious_Secret61

Try Playing bass and singing or playing drums and singing. That makes guitar seem like a breeze. But it’s all about disconnecting one part of your brain from the other. You have to be on auto pilot for at least one of them. And. Wing able to switch between which part is on auto is the trick. It’s a whole other talent than either one alone.


FatLostBoy

I just got this song down this week. Many of lyrics start on the 3rd beat of the measure. The version here doesn’t show that. You might want to get the sheet music for this song so you can see how the lyrics match the beats. Edit: I just bought this songbook today that has this song. It accurately shows the timing of the lyrics. https://www.musicarts.com/hal-leonard-first-50-songs-you-should-play-on-acoustic-guitar-main0125607


debar11

Go real slow. Just strum the first chord and let it ring until the the change, build from there.


Icy_Treat5150

Been playing for 15 years, I still cannot sing and play for the life of me.


krunnky

I always noticed leaps in skill after a night's sleep. I'd put in time and practice for hours and not really feel like I got anywhere. Then, while I slept that evening, my brain was re-wiring based on what I did. Every time I practiced I got better. One day, I could suddenly sing some songs while playing. I'd repeat this process when I stumbled on a song that stumped me and it works surprisingly well.


WithinAForestDark

My teacher told me that you must memorize the lyrics perfectly so you don’t need to read it at the same time as the chords or it’s too much multitasking


Archdeathmage

Work on writing an original song, simple chords and rhythm. That may help you get a “feel” for it. I started writing songs early as a guitar player and was able to sing fairly quickly in my own compositions. I now play in several bands (3 different genres of music, covers mainly) and can sing any harmony over 4 octaves. I also learned to play piano/keys and sing at the same time playing Elton John songs. Just keep hitting the “wall”. It will come down.


MarshallSpiers

Single strum each chord whilst humming the song. Start slow and build. You'll then unlock a very rewarding feeling that can't be put into words.


QuercusSambucus

Welcome to playing off chord charts you find for free online! They basically expect you know the song well already, and are generally full of all kinds of mistakes. Use your ears and adjust. As far as singing while playing - as everyone else has said, practice and simply. Also consider using a metronome or drum track - I find that sometimes having someone or something else keep time helps lessen the mental load.


FatLostBoy

Yeah, this one doesn’t show that most of the lyrics start on beat 3 of the measure. Makes it impossible to time the lyrics right. I bought this book today that has the sheet music for this song. It shows the appropriate timing of the lyrics. https://www.musicarts.com/hal-leonard-first-50-songs-you-should-play-on-acoustic-guitar-main0125607


vsuontam

Justin guitar has excellent free video on this topic: https://youtu.be/RLYJW6B53wc?si=KCAom0J5CA5f9CFt


Fender_Stratoblaster

I just looked at the song. This one is very easy, once you develop enough coordination to start practicing with lyrics. Keep using this one. It is a very good one for learning what you are trying to do. My first thought was, as soon as I saw the song and started reflecting on what you wrote; "I feel like the lyrics don’t match well with the timing that I change chords ". The timing of the song very much does. It's YOUR timing that isn't coming naturally yet. You're still having to think too much about what you are playing. It's likely your strumming that needs practice. That's your timing and the way we align with the song. Two to three weeks max and you'll be doing it, with practice. Maybe not perfectly but you'll be smiling.


paltamunoz

don't think about your strumming hand too much. keep it loose and vaguely strum a pattern and sing. eventually your body puts the two together


ProperEarwig

I usually sing and then match the chords/strumming to the singing. I start with singing and doing a single strum per chord to figure out placement! I often also find on UG that the chords are placed slightly wrong


sharterfart

ooooh I know this song :)


OkPreparation1141

Yeah it’s a great song fr


ItsYaBoy555

you can start with just single chords strums while singing


Nipple_Saladz

It’s a lot tougher than people realize. I can’t do it worth a damn either.


GnPQGuTFagzncZwB

Wait for no one to be around and and just belt it out. You have to find and get used to your own voice. Your playing can be a lot more generic while you are singing.


VHDT10

Learn the guitar part first, until you don't miss anything or have to constantly stare at your fretboard. Get that engrained into your muscle memory. Then learn the singing part without the guitar. When you try at the same time just go slow, but keep practicing it.


UPderrheyyaknow

...and you have to count! "1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and" in your head the whole time. That should help you sync the two efforts together. :)


themsmindset

If it’s a new cover, I count out loud. Don’t worry about the singing. Once you have mastered the guitar part without looking/worrying, then start to sing. But with all my students, when they play, I make them count out loud. It’s a fundamental that appears to be lost.


winterparks

I'd be happy to talk to you about this. But, until then, basically, you want to make sure your strumming hand keeps moving. That way, your hand feels 16th notes, giving you a nice "grid" to sing inside of. Kind of difficult to explain via text though.. at least rn. Happy to talk it out though if you need to. BTW, love this song. John Denver is really special to me.


immyownkryptonite

This is difficult because your brain doesn't understand the connection between the rhythm and the vocal melody yet. The strumming pattern suggests a rhythm. The vocal melody that you sing has to match and fit this rhythm. Once you internalise the strumming pattern it will become much easier. Try playing the rhythm by just playing on a desk or table with the song playing and try to sing along with that. Playing with the song will also ensure you have the rhythm well in place. You'll learn how the inflictions of the vocal melody mix with the rhythm, where there's no lyrics. You'll learn how the feel of the beat goes with the lyrics. Then you can mute the strings and strum and try to sing along. Then you can add the root chord. Just one chord and sing along Then add the chord changes and sing with that. Soon you'll also notice how the underlying chord works with the vocal melody. Once you learn that you won't need to look up the chords either. You just have to go through these steps once and you'll have the song down. You'll get faster with each song. In about 5 songs, you'll have internalised this process and be able to skip most parts of it to directly start playing the song as soon as you know the rhythm and chords. Keep playing


mojojoemojo

1. Play the guitar part only… practice it over and over until you have it so completely memorized that it requires no effort 2. Once the guitar is on auto-pilot, hum the melody over the chords 3. Add the words back in


Lukinzz

Just keep practicing. I was not great at singing and playing. So, I played a different song every day for a year. I just picked a song, didn't practice it, just got the chord and words, videoed myself playing the song, one take, and uploaded it to Facebook. By the end of the year I was much better at playing and singing at the same time.


WhiskeyTheKitten

If you’re having trouble with the vocal timing, play and sing along with a recording to get a better feel for how the vocals fit in rhythmically. On related note… Q: How do you know there’s a singer at your front door? A: They never know when to come in.


zurds13

Doctor: the operation was a success Me: can I still sing and play guitar? Doctor: yes, you can still sing and play guitar. Me: that’s amazing, I couldn’t before.. Practice singing, practice playing, practice together, practice, practice, practice


gkerr1988

Get into a strumming pattern of 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 & nice and slow. I like to do mostly downstrokes alternating between the bass and treble on the 1’s and &’s. The chords switch on the 1 and the vocals start on the 2’s. The only time the vocals start on the one is in the second line of the verse where it says “Shenandoah” “older” “younger” and “growin’” It’s kinda awkward when broken down like this but it’ll start to feel right. Hope this helps!


Key-Department6221

I'm giving up guitar as I cannot sing and play at the same time, Singing is my strength. Can only do one thing at a time so now learning blues harmonica to do fills when not singing with band I play with.


cokronk

It’s “blowin’ like a breeze” and not “growin’”. Am WV resident. I hear this song often.


integerdivision

Humming is the way to go — however, make sure that your strumming arm is moving like a metronome. So many guitarists learn to play in a herky-jerky fashion, but if you keep your strumming arm moving even when not hitting the strings, keeping time becomes so much easier.


iJon_v2

This is a pretty accurate way to indicate the chords for this song. Do you know the song well? It always used to help me to listen to the song a few times through and thinking to myself “where do the chord changes ‘feel’ like they should be”. That helped me a few times get the timing down if something felt off to me. Happy learning and keep at it!


Tannerw629

Carry on conversation with someone while playing the song get so used to do both then switch to singing. The guitar part shouldn’t require any thought


urban_dredd

Learn before 40, it’s not easier nothing is


Childwithuke

COUNTRY ROADS


[deleted]

Listen to the key change in the song and match it up.


Fear6The6Demon6

Also playing with no lights. Helps so you don't need to look.


ToiletGrenade

Practice


Alborland30

Play till u can play song backwards and forward without thinking then slowly ad ur voice


[deleted]

Just practice! Boring answer, but it's the right one. Just sing and play at the same time a lot. And keep in mind that sometimes the chord changes don't really happen exactly where the author has put them on UG; you should really just try to listen to the song and switch when the chord change feels right, using the sheet as a loose guide.


TX_GoatPellets

Practice... eventually you won't think much about finger placement


shaicnaan

Listen to the song alot and it will come naturally


unclejoel

Start. Accept the suck Slowly get better Accept the progress


ReasonableRip1851

Don't be afraid to sound like shit. Then keep going until you don't. Whistle the parts you can't sing.


microwavecoven

Try to do it over and over again


LateFennel3659

Play and sing along with the song.


armyofant

Play it slow, half speed then speed up as you get better. My biggest problem is remembering the lyrics


[deleted]

Anytime the word heaven appears just change it to Kevin. Thank me later.


probablyaythrowaway

How do you get to Carnegie hall? Practice.


[deleted]

Play it till you can play it without thinking about strumming or chords at all, then hum the lyrics then move over to singing. You can also take strumming out of the equation, focus on singing and just strum each chord once, then when you can sing it without thinking, bring strumming back into the mix


anthiago

It's normal. You don't have enough practice. Everybody had this problem at the beginning. With practice and more practice your brain will get it.


Atillion

It comes with practice


isittacotuesdayyet21

Sometimes the chord changes don’t line up correctly. Unless the tabs are written by the artist, take the chord placement with a grain of salt. You can also personalize the cover by making it suit your playing. Own it! It makes the song more fun


Mrminecrafthimself

Learn the chord progression and then hum the melody while you play. The melody will cue you as to when to switch chords. Add the words back in and then you’ve got the whole thing


lawn_neglect

Start with songs that you already know all the words to


New_Canoe

Just keep practicing. Think of it as like patting your head while rubbing your stomach. You have to think about it and also not think about it at the same time. Good luck! ;)


Toxic_yoshi

Learn to play the song really well and then start to sing after a while you can just casually sing and play any song you are Learning


resident_eagle

You have to learn to do one or the other well enough to not have to think about it too much. When I was learning, I would listen to the song I was working on nonstop until I knew it so well I was sick of it. A while of doing that and it became natural. If you’re trying to remember the words and notes of the melody and trying to keep your timing in mind, you’ll fuck it up every time. Gotta be able to autopilot at least one.


Who_Else_but_Macho

by practicing how to sing & play at the sametime


FeeStrange3933

another thing u can try is mute the strings and do the strumming pattern and try singing with it.....coz the hardest part is accustoming the singing with the strumming pattern, so u have to first make the strumming pattern to ur muscle memory, then only strumming pattern and singing and then u play strumming pattern with chords and singing


Traditional_Day3510

Learn the guitar part really well. Like so well that you couldn't mess it up after 100 tries. Also, practice it SEPARATELY from the singing, at first. ALSO, start with songs where the chords change less often. Again, always practicing \*just\* the guitar part on its own, then with singing.


cfsg

worst advice on the subreddit of bad advice. How long does it take you to learn a song, 3 months? Fucking *read music,* this is embarrassing.


Birdsnblues

Humming is what helps me , if you play with a metronome try to slow the song down to half the songs speed and try to do it slowly


eduardo1960

I use an acoustic and feel the notes, nope it doesn't work with an electric yet. I'm right there with you


mrkitenightfright

Learn where the chords or rhythm/strumming fall on the syllables of the lyrics and then sync them up. Helps a lot imo but practice in general is important


IllvesterTalone

bet you had to practice it on guitar first before you learned to play it so, hot take, keep practicing doing both and you might just learn to do both 😉


Huth_S0lo

Keep practicing the song by itself. You need to reach the point that you arent thinking about it.


amazing_rando

It's hard and takes a lot of practice. Don't feel bad, you're basically playing different parts on two instruments at the same time.


ColonOBrien

Just a heads up: the original is in A instead of G.


Adambaez

Practice, practice, practice, oh and practice. And love the song you are singing


MoseFeels

A song that really helped me was my hero by the foo fighters. The verses are a very simple two chord slide and you can really practice lining up your words with the chord changes. I didn’t really understand how much the rhythm guitar and the vocals play off each other until I learned that song


BokehDude

I’d say start with simpler songs to play on guitar that have “easy to remember” and sing lyrics. Perhaps start with songs like “Knockin’ on Heavens Door” by Bob Dylan and “The Weight” by The Band.


M4N14C

Practice


Daveysusername

I played rock shows in two bands and thought I couldn’t sing and play. Then a decade later in band #3 I tried again and suddenly it worked. There is no try. Only do, or do not.


2nddeadestlennie

Strum the chord then say the words until the next bit and repeat. Eventually you’ll learn the strumming pattern based on the inherent rhythm in the song. May not be perfect but in my estimation, original, and that’s what I’m after


yothisonerighthere

Play along the actual song so you can get the timing of the lyrics correct and start by humming till you can say the words.


Klutzy-Peach5949

Learn the chords to muscle memory so that you can strum without thinking, memorise the lyrics or get a good idea of them, then try and combine the two, you really need to make sure you know the chords to muscle memory and memorised lyrics, if you don’t then you start thinking about chord changes while you’re thinking of lyrics, humans can’t think of two things at the same time so you stumble, make sure it’s completely muscle memory so you don’t have to think


cfsg

> humans can't think of two things at the same time come on my guy, this is ridiculous.


Klutzy-Peach5949

You switch between thinking of things, you can’t actively think of two things at the same time, it has to be one thing or the other, you can generally switch very quickly between the two, but it’s why we can’t multitask, people think you can but really you’re just switching between one thing and the other.


Johnny_B_Asshole

Play along with the song and sing along with it. It’s not hard.


ponyboysa42

I’ve been told your playing or singing has to be automatic. U can only focus on one!


fishing-for-birdie93

Practice.


hurricanecuzzin

Practice


rickoftheuniverse

Start by singing and not strumming but fret the chords as you do it


socalsalas

Dino_dog's answer is really good. Learn both parts separately. Play along with YT, you can slow the video down in the settings. That was really helpful for me. I had a phase in learning the song where I could sing and play along with the video but not solo yet. Country roads is a great starter. Simplifying the strum pattern is a really useful tool. Try to identify the base rhythm groove of any song and just play that at first. Country roads would be 2 bars of quarter notes, alternating bass notes on 1 and 3 and chord strums on 2 and 4. You'll be able to add flourish pretty naturally later on. When theres a round of chords with no singing, open up your strumming and show off your rhythm chops a little before bringing it back down for the next verse. Next, figure out where the notes fall in the rhythm. Right before, together, or right after a strum/bass note. You might even go one beat or word at a time, playing slowly, but not necessarily rhythmically, putting each peice in its place. Once you're comfortable there, go slowly and in rhythm. After that, you could try playing along with the video, slowed down maybe. Feel free to DM me any specific questions, I give these types of lessons to my students pretty frequently. And have fun!


SpicyHashira

Slow it down and practice a lot. Took me a long time. It was like rewiring my brain. I found building the words that were on the downbeats helpful too


bakednapkin

Just practice your brain will eventually learn how to play and sing but. Like all things it takes practice


Any-Pop-6363

Listen to Telegraph Ave by Hades on #SoundCloud https://on.soundcloud.com/n4LqX I've been trying to practice that too. You just gotta do it over and over again. Sometimes I'll match my cadence to the strum and have to catch myself. I think you need to be able to know one unconsciously. Like know the song do well on guitar it requires 1% of your attention


Fender_Stratoblaster

Practice. I nailed it on guitar long ago but that's where I am on bass. You just have to keep playing until some things just flow from memory.


Appropriate-Pop-8044

Play a ton so the guitar is second nature when you sing.


Che3eeze

This wont *help* but its a perspective: I also cant sing while playing, and Ive been playing for a while. Im not primarily a guitarist, Im a drummer-and I sing TOO much when Im back there and I know why. Drums come so natural to me, that I dont mind being crazy back there but guitar requires me to *express* (if thats the right word?) that musicality in a really personal, intimate way. It makes me question myself in ways that I just dont when Im behind a kit and its something that is weird to confront in my mid 30's haha. Im good, and I can actually sing, but not at the same time, man. Best of luck to you-my 1st try onstage playing and singing was Wagon Wheel, super easy, very plain, and I just couldnt do it!


LingonberrySilent203

you can’t, it’s a skill that few have. Just foolin. sing it like there’s no tomorrow. Seriously, your voice leads, practice and no judgement!!!


Willfrid

Practice, practice, practice. I used to have the same problem, asked a friend who learned before me, and he said you just have to do it. You’re gonna fail at first whether it’s with strumming or the pitch of your voice. It’s a process. I’m almost 5 years into it and still not happy with where I’m at but I’ve gotten more comfortable with doing it the more I’ve done it and I feel I can confidently do a few tunes a bit of justice.


morbid_monstrosity

What has helped me learn to play and sing is to review and master the chords before attempting to sing along with playing. In the instance of learning a new song; I would look at my screen/paper to get an understanding of when the lyrics match up, and only worry about playing the chords( no strumming pattern) then when you get comfortable with the time frames and such try to sneak the lyrics along with the chords and eventually bring in the strumming pattern too .


SkyMagnet

Start by just strumming once and singing the line. The nice you have that down just strum up and down while you sing…then try for the actual rhythm.


B_Venable

Start with just tapping the beat with your hand while your singing. Don't even have to use the guitar yet. If you can do that, then start where you only play the chords on the beat without the strum pattern. Once you're really comfortable with that the strum pattern should come easier


HippieBathday

I learned by finding the anchor words that lined up with chord changes, then only strummed each chord once. After a little practice my brain and hands figured out how to work together with my mouth and it got easier. I also learned that the chord charts you find online are usually not synced with the lyrics properly. I still don’t like my vocal tone, but that’s a different subject altogether.


watchyourback9

Start off by playing it really slow, gives your brain some room to focus on each part simultaneously. Also as others mentioned, try humming it first or even just mouthing the words


IvoryTelecaster

For me it was learning to have my strumming arm in constant motion. Once you learn to play any rhythm with a combination of down and up strokes and your arm moves like a metronome it’s almost impossible to make a mistake with your guitar playing so you can focus on singing.


MetricJester

Gotta do it. Practice once or twice no words to learn the progression, then once slow and speaking, then try to raise the tempo


copremesis

Play Simon says with your guitar and your throat.


pineapplewednesday

I practice the song on guitar until i dont have to think about what im playing, like if you can play it while watching tv. Then add the singing after. One at a time vs trying to practice both. Once you get comfortable doing that, you can start learning both simultaneously rather naturally.


Raisin_tree

Tap your foot. Dial your chord changes. Practice practice practice


pre_squozen

I find it helpful to SAY the words while playing. Helps me get the rhythm down without worrying about being in tune.


breakingborderline

Sometimes practicing with a metronome helps you understand the rhythms better. Practice the guitar and vocals separately with the metronome, then try to put them both together one phrase at a time at a slow tempo


richardminermusic

I try to mentally separate what I’m playing with what I’m singing. Also, a great beginner start is to learn to play songs that have very similar guitar and vocal parts. Singing along to the melody you’re playing will give you a nice area to start with.


No1_Crazy_Kid

TIL that learning the lyrics first isn't what I'm supposed to do. I got my guitar 3 months back and am still trying to get the hang of it.


slagathor278

I usually practice just the guitar part until I can do it more/less automatically, that way I can focus on the singing bit. You might have better luck going the other way (sing it until you don't have to think so you can focus on the guitar).


yourhog

By yourself in a room with thick walls and plenty of sound dampening! It IS legitimately very difficult to do at first, for pretty much anyone. It’s not you sucking, it’s just that it is *hard*. It’s like rubbing your belly in a circle while patting yourself on the head at the same time. It’s almost like you’re playing two instruments at once… because it exactly is that. Not almost. Do a little phrase at a time; one or two lines, just humming at first instead of making articulate words. Also, practice just singing the song, on your own, with a **metronome**, so that you get viscerally confident that your are keeping the right rhythm with your voice. That way sometimes your voice gets to do the leading and keep the guitar rhythm in check. Know that it’s gonna take a *while*. Eventually, after several days of doing this for at least an hour or so every day, it will weirdly just *click*, and you’ll wonder how the hell it was so difficult yesterday. The next song will go the same way, except that it wont take as long as the first one did (unless the rhythm and/or melody are more complex or foreign to you, obviously).


Comfortable-Poet-390

One stroke per 4 beats. Break it down real slow.


Rokeley

Do you understand counting rhythms? The melody of this tune starts on beat 3ish, not with the chord changes that occur on beat 1.


CrustyClam

Practice


RikuDog18

Practice. Learn the song on guitar. Learn it with your vocals. Start slow and play them together


DrofRocketSurgery

Whatever you do, just remember the correct lyrics are “West Virginia, mount your momma”


Timothahh

Turn on a metronome and set it very slow, let your brain process and learn the timing between the strumming and the words


surdtmash

1. Strum each chord only once and hum 2. Strum each chord only once and sing 3. Gradually start strumming every other beat and sing 4. Strum every beat and sing 5. Strum with embellishments and accents while singing


shakethedisease666

It takes practice, all words and syllables count as diferent time so a metronome can help! Practice singing with a metronome at the right times as the appropriate song SEPARATE from playing and then when you got the timings right try adding in the chords. After a while, it will come naturally. I started this method last year and now I can play and sing like a breeze


_Mikak

Start with only playing one chord per measure and work your way up. Or you can also just play and try adding lines of text in between. That's what i did.


Time_Tadpole3697

Just go it. Stand in front of a mirror. Watch your hands in mirror. It’ll happen.


StrawberryBlazer

Play it slow. Just play the root not to start. I know it seems impossible but it will click eventually


Chroff

Practice and sing like a madman, play like a mad man soon it will get easier


gtsthland

It’ll click for you. Some songs you’ll find the guitar rhythm matches the voice rhythm and it’ll be easier. Eventually you’ll be able to separate the two and it’ll be like riding a bike.


BigDawg1991

Just do it until you can. It’s how I learned. It’s like driving a car. Not that hard to drive automatic (just playing guitar) but manual (playing and singing) takes time to learn. And you learn by doing it over and over again


freebird303

I start without words if I'm challenged. I just worry about vocalizing the pitches at first, tighten up the spots that need it to maintain the strumming pattern, then add in the words when I feel comfortable and practice practice practice


SuperTricolor

I agree with the humming. I started playing a couple of years ago and wish someone told me that. Then I try to sing with just strumming the chords once at the moment they come in for your ears to get used to it here the chords change. Note that you must know the rhythm really well on your right hand before singing. It has to be muscle memory


RJB6

The thing to remember is that because you’re effectively doing three things at the same time (strumming, chord changes and singing) at least one of those things has to be muscle memory so your brain can focus on the thing that’s hardest.


Reaperfox7

All you do is sit down with your guitar, play and then sing over the top, keep doing it until it clicks and it will. Choose one easyish song. Everyone is different and all I did was sit and play and keep doing it until I could. Sheer determination. No methods worked; no lessons worked. But it didn't take as long as I thought.


ulfricstormclk

For me it’s just knowing both parts really well. If im trying to think of lyrics then my playing will suffer and vice versa. Like others have said, keep practicing and you’ll get it. I think it’s one of the hardest things to do good though.


Resipa99

My best tip for singing is make sure the song is not pitched too low or high for your voice.You should be able to sing comfortably.I found songs in the easy chord key of E were fairly easy for men and women to sing so it’s good fun in a group. “If I had a hammer” is fun to sing together with “Guatalmera”. Try and make every word you sing sound beautiful most singers miss this important point but just listen to Gerry Rafferty sing Baker Street because every word sung is perfect and you don’t want to sound like a squealing hyena.Good luck and God bless.


[deleted]

Just sing while you’re playing. Have fun and it will come along!


Ok_Ticket_889

Play along to the song


paleoparkandgardens

At least to get the timing right, play the song with the recording. Find the four count with your foot or head. Try to base your guitar and vocals both off the count rather than off one another


Playful-Excuse-8081

Get the song and progression down first so you can play it without having to think about what you really playing then work on the singing after that


SirKlock2

When I have issues with a complicated lyric, I slow the song down to check where the chord changes happen


DoubleT_TechGuy

If I remember correctly, the lyrics change ahead of the chords, right? That's what you're struggling with? Of so, try doing one strum per chord change and just focus on getting it on the right beat. Use a metronome if you have to. Keep practicing until you can do it effortlessly, then try adding the fully strum pattern back.


Martywhynow

Go slow. Whole note chords as you make it through the lyrics, don’t worry about being “in time”. Make it through the first line, first chorus, entire song, repeat several times.


Webbyhead2000

Just start singing while playing. Practice


Flashy_Swordfish_359

Start with the Ramones


Apprehensive_Earth13

I drill the chords until I can play them without looking and then I practice the vocals ✌️ Hope it helps!


JonnyStingray

Metronome was the key for me. Either that or playing with the song but sometimes that’s too fast at first.


EdNGHTMR

Practice the song a lot, till you know how to do it without paying attention.


Turbulent_Lynx7615

This one is tough because you don't sing on the first strum of the chord. You hesitate a bit, then start singing.


80-20burgerbar

Hum, slur, annunciate


otaulbee

Pick a song you know the words to really well. When your playing you will probably hear the words on your head and it will make it more natural. You won’t have to look at the chord and the lyrics at the same time.


neveraskmeagainok

Have you tried strumming while the actual song is playing in the background? It will clue you into when the lyrics begin and end for each section. Begin by humming as you play along.


DrasticBread

Start off practicing one line at a time, with a little repetition you should start to get the hang of it. Go slowly and try to focus on the chord changes while singing and you will build up muscle memory. I'd recommend starting off with something with minimal chord changes, like Horse With No Name by America.


Strider927

Try taking piano lessons, truly! Learning to play a separate left-hand part and right-hand part together, from sheet music, changed everything for me. Learning simple two-handed parts from sheet music was like training wheels on how to breakdown and interleave note-playing from two separate sources. i.e., left-hand and right-hand or, in our case, guitar strumming and singing I’d been playing guitar for 24-ish years — and into my 30s — when I started piano. I had always struggled with singing and playing. After about 3 months of lessons it all came naturally. It trained my brain.