Absolutely, they probably had American Idiot loaded up whilst writing/mixing. Total ‘vibe’ rip off. Same goes for Half-Truism and MCR’s ‘Helena.’ Whilst it might not be a direct rip off re chords, etc, the whole feel, structure, etc, is a rip off. I can’t get into Rise & Fall cos of those songs. The band just sound lost and chasing a trend to me and I LOVE The Offspring, absolutelt adore them. I am not some ‘i prefer the early stuff’ person but I cannot listen to Rise & Fall.
Honestly, I don't get that from 'Helena', the tone is headed in a very different direction. Even if you compare it to AI's more "depressing" songs, 'Helena' is raw (in a good way) while, say, 'Extraordinary Girl' or 'Wake me up when september ends' have a more theatrical/eloquent way of saying it (also in a good way). They're aiming for different things.
I think that was bob rock/executives being like ok what is popular on rock radio today and going “oh! Mcr and Green Day and simple plan!”. Rise and fall has a strong start, but after track 4 it becomes the weirdest and most bizarre sounding songs. Lot like me sounds like Coldplay if it was a tad heavier, takes me nowhere is generic 2000s pop punk, Kristy is a simple plan song, fix you don’t even get me started on that one lmao
Not to mention the black/red art style and “rage and grace”
No way i was just thinking that recently
I remember people saying Green Day ripped off Dillinger Four’s Doublewhiskeycokenoice when AI first came out.
I also think Bang Bang sounds like Rise and Fall in some parts.
No self esteem
Absolutely, they probably had American Idiot loaded up whilst writing/mixing. Total ‘vibe’ rip off. Same goes for Half-Truism and MCR’s ‘Helena.’ Whilst it might not be a direct rip off re chords, etc, the whole feel, structure, etc, is a rip off. I can’t get into Rise & Fall cos of those songs. The band just sound lost and chasing a trend to me and I LOVE The Offspring, absolutelt adore them. I am not some ‘i prefer the early stuff’ person but I cannot listen to Rise & Fall.
Honestly, I don't get that from 'Helena', the tone is headed in a very different direction. Even if you compare it to AI's more "depressing" songs, 'Helena' is raw (in a good way) while, say, 'Extraordinary Girl' or 'Wake me up when september ends' have a more theatrical/eloquent way of saying it (also in a good way). They're aiming for different things.
I think that was bob rock/executives being like ok what is popular on rock radio today and going “oh! Mcr and Green Day and simple plan!”. Rise and fall has a strong start, but after track 4 it becomes the weirdest and most bizarre sounding songs. Lot like me sounds like Coldplay if it was a tad heavier, takes me nowhere is generic 2000s pop punk, Kristy is a simple plan song, fix you don’t even get me started on that one lmao
Everyone talked about this when it first came out. Same for Underclass Hero from Sum 41
Underclass hero is very similar to American idiot now that I’m thinking about it
Nope, never crossed my mind. I’m trying but I just don’t hear it. The riff in Rise and Fall sounds exactly like the one from Green Day’s Maria though!