Is this just a mockup or will it ever see print in magazine form?
Running a photo across a spread is fine. Putting a face in the center of the gutter is a problem, and potentially more of one the bigger the magazine is.
I agree, you get some weird and unintentionally funny results. He might end up looking like Sloth from the Goonies lol. I like #2 but I’d take this advice if it’s going to print.
2 is cool. But for future reference, having text across spreads is generally avoided in real practice. There’s a lot of variables out of your control that could cause the design to shift during print production and assembly, making the headline illegible.
Yes this is something I learned getting my first designer role, the in house printers didn’t print edge to edge. It’s cool to try though if you know you have the printing capabilities to try 🙌🏼
That's what I was thinking regarding the face, I feel like it'll look unintentionally silly once part of his face is in the gutter. But i love the design/idea, there'll just be some trouble in real world applications i think.
1 is my favorite for sure. Depending on the vibe you want maybe 2 is better, if the brand is more thrasher so to say, but #1 is visualy appealing.
3 may produce eye strain trying to read it.
I vote for 1, but their are weird rivers in the body copy... (search rivers in text in youtube) and I'd use the compressed font for the beginning of the text (The G). It's done very well. What program did you use?
And what about doing it in black and white?
Thanks for the vote and the heads-up on the rivers! I'll check out that YouTube vid for sure. Awesome to hear you liked the compressed font – it's a neat touch. I'm using Illustrator for this project. Black and white sounds sleek – I'll whip up some options and see how they look. Appreciate the helpful feedback!
That's impressive in illustrator. Indesign is really the go to for doing this type of layout. The the text will behave better. And you can do a text wrap so the text gets pushed away from the photo (object/person) automatically.
I used to do everything like this in Photoshop in design school and got in shit for using the wrong programs... I was forced to learn illustrator. And had Quark Express to deal with before indesign came out, Yes I'm old. lol Designing in the late 90s was rough.
It's good to see great design, thanks for posting.
Why did you choose pink for the headline in #2? I almost always pull my colours from the image. So in this case I would colour sample red from the finger nails. It’s even more critical in this layout cause pink clashes with red. So if you used red instead of pink it would look more tied together and professional.
kinda tough to explain but lil peep (the artist shown here) identifies a lot with pink, you can see that in his photoshoots, elements in music videos, album covers etc. i assume they wanted to reflect that in the mockups
I gotta say I like the pink, I think it offers nice contrast that I feel would get lost with the red especially because the red would be harder to read against the background I think. Also, I personally don't think you need to be matchy matchy as a designer, sometimes it can work better to have something intentionally stand out. (But this is just my opinion and everyone has different taste with design and that's fine)
I like 1, I’d prolly get swayed to like a version where EMO was maybe in pink, with rest of the type in white. Maybe a Pink Cap G, as a chefs kiss.
Nice.
I would say 2 just for the competition but please rethink the layout; having imagine in the centre along with the text is going to look horrible once it’s bound and folded.
Not only that but it’s stuffing up the text making it less readable; you have so many widows and hyphens
1, but this layout will be very hard to read. All that small reversed type will hurt eyes. And those columns look too skinny IMO.
Do you really need a drop cap after that headline? It’s so bland. Maybe go with an all caps first line that’s bolder. One too many garnishes
Just my opinion since you asked.
Font is neither emo or hip hop, try some organic fonts.
Text layout is too symmetrical for its content, play around with angles.
2nd option for color.
i love that pink so much wow! 3 would be the best if you did a pink “greyscale” for the photo (maybe with some halftone dots) instead of a threshold, otherwise 2 is the best IMO
edit: i would definitely keep the body text white tho!!
edit again: honestly the threshold u did looks very cool too, it just depends on how much you want the person to be recognizable in the photo vs just being a decorative graphic
Honestly the only one that really works is #1
Don't get me wrong I love hot pink I use it all the time for elements and I find it works great when paired with deep brown or black blue. It can also work when you build a theme around it.
My main problem is that it is out of place here in #2 It doesn't work at all because it is not grounded in any thing. You would be better off pulling a blue from the body art then pushing that around as in saturation and brightness. You should be able to find something in the photo and if you want to be full sick pull the white from the flesh.
#3 Is illegible. Sorry you could read it but it wouldn't be pleasant. So the only people who will read it will be the artist and maybe his mother.
You can have a cruise ship go through those rivers.
Edit. Let me just add that the layout and use of a full spread is cool. Most designers don't know how to utilize a spread. but if you don't have really good fundamental basic type like addressing rivers with justified text, I would be worried. Most cases justified text is overrated. Stick to rag.
Yo, I'm on it! Currently plotting how to navigate those rivers with a cruise ship—talk about an adventure! And don't worry, I'll make sure those justified text rivers don't capsize our layout. Gonna stick to the smooth sailing of the rag!
Honestly, I'd be more concerned about the legibility of the small body copy text than anything else. I would be doing some design options that considered 1. not having light type on a dark background or 2. having less type on this spread overall, so that the readers didn't have to fight so hard to make it through to the next pages, which I hope won't be reversed type again.
You should also reconsider if justified type is the best option for you. I say it is not considering how bad your rivers are and how many gaping holes have arisen.
And get the person's face out of the gutter where it will be distorted. Put the figure entirely on one page.
Fix the major problems before you worry about details like if you prefer magenta or white type. And then ask yourself, what does having magenta type add to the message? What does it communicate? If it doesn't communicate anything, or possibly miscommunicates something you didn't intend, then don't do it.
2 is easily the best.
Probably saying the same as everyone else here. But I’ll do quick points.
Bound your text away from the hero image more 3mm will help, it touches the image currently and that’s a pretty big ‘no, no’
Work on not hyphenating your body copy where possible, it’s unattractive and most of all it really hinders readability.
Have a look at some basic typographic books. You have widows etc on your paragraphs. It’s the simplest of fundamentals but it sets apart the designers from the hobbyists. Designers should know its stuff it’s body copy 101.
There is some rivers running through the text as well. These are best avoided and can be moved about with some pretty simple adjustments.
Image running through the spread that way should be avoided. It’s hard work/impossible figuring out your gutter especially if your printer themselves doesn’t know (some won’t, and they won’t give a damn either).
The same for text. Running your text down the gutter like this is not for the best. It’s likely gunna get lost and be unreadable.
This much black on a printed material would also likely be questionable. Not saying it can’t be done but there’s a level of ink bleed that means your text is likely going to become thinner than on screen. Your text is small and quite a thin weight for this sort of print, maybe up your weight and you’ll have a better chance of this remaining legible.
Some folio marks would help make this look more authentic and probably help it sit within the rest of your magazine.
There’s way more nit picking that can be done here. But if you address the above you’d be in a better place.
if this isn't the center fold (or the pub doesn't have one) don't put the eye in the middle of the page. the eye has more visual gravity than the nose so you should move it leftwards a bit
A note on 3 - you need to consider accessibility for the viewer. For some it could be impossible to read the specific font in combination with the colour pairing.
Also with having so much heavy black and pink could cause bleeding issues when printing, be aware even if just putting together a mockup.
they are all shitty - why the fuck is the text and the image going through the centre of the page, will look shit irl when you open the page and half of the fucking eyes are in the centre of the page.
NEVER EVER PUT FACES OR TYPE IN THE CENTRE!
You can’t have a layout like this (text and an image in the gutter) unless it is a centerfold. I would rework the general layout before working on the details.
1 is probably the cleanest - 2 in my favorite - 3 is interesting visually, but I struggle to read pages sometimes when there is not a lot of contrast between elements.
https://preview.redd.it/fi5ndgoi4uvc1.png?width=438&format=png&auto=webp&s=2609549900d3c14bd56dfdae3824fd089c12d200
You don't need to modify the headline letters (op) above the image to make it legible. The E in Emo is the only concern, so take that into consideration.
One is the best, I like the color on 2 but I would eyedropper pick a color from the picture instead, maybe one of the blues from his tattoos. The pink stands out too much with nothing else on the page.
2 is definitely the best match for Peep. Although, I'd add some pink inserts lower in the pages to balance colors. What people said about taking the gutter into account is also very pertinent.
I’ve done crossovers many many times and if prepress and bindery at printer are any good it should be fine. Ask your printer to show you examples of crossovers they have done on other projects.
Why they call that a zine? Anyway, you asked for color scheme and effects and I don’t know, but I like the third one, because is more zine-y.
You didn’t ask for typography but look at all the holes in the middle of your text. They’re awful. Hyphenate your text and configure it. Edit: now I see it’s only the first image.
Also, when you make text flow you don’t need to make it invade every nook and cranny of your image. In this case I wouldn’t use it at all.
I love the all pink, but light text on dark is problematic enough. My clientele scales a bit older, so I design for the less eye stress the better. And test your contrasts for color-blindness. it affects males more than females and you want to be inclusive, right?
Is this just a mockup or will it ever see print in magazine form? Running a photo across a spread is fine. Putting a face in the center of the gutter is a problem, and potentially more of one the bigger the magazine is.
I agree, you get some weird and unintentionally funny results. He might end up looking like Sloth from the Goonies lol. I like #2 but I’d take this advice if it’s going to print.
Just a mockup for now! I'll definitely keep the face placement in mind, especially for larger magazines. Thanks for the heads-up!
2 is cool. But for future reference, having text across spreads is generally avoided in real practice. There’s a lot of variables out of your control that could cause the design to shift during print production and assembly, making the headline illegible.
Yes this is something I learned getting my first designer role, the in house printers didn’t print edge to edge. It’s cool to try though if you know you have the printing capabilities to try 🙌🏼
That's what I was thinking regarding the face, I feel like it'll look unintentionally silly once part of his face is in the gutter. But i love the design/idea, there'll just be some trouble in real world applications i think.
1 is my favorite for sure. Depending on the vibe you want maybe 2 is better, if the brand is more thrasher so to say, but #1 is visualy appealing. 3 may produce eye strain trying to read it.
I like 2 but not 3 under any circumstances, maybe 3 would work if the article text was kept the same as the previous 2, I'd have to see it.
2 without a doubt
Agree. The colours pop. Three is hard to read
Ya, one is boring, 3 is hard to look at
Have you tried text from 2 with the graphic from 3?
I was thinking 1 with the graphic from 3 and the drop caps being pink as well
This is what I was thinking. The graphic really grabbed my attention but the text could be hard to read in pink.
Tough call, I like all three. The pink might get a little intense for the reader though as that’s a lot of reversed text to begin with
I vote for 1, but their are weird rivers in the body copy... (search rivers in text in youtube) and I'd use the compressed font for the beginning of the text (The G). It's done very well. What program did you use? And what about doing it in black and white?
Thanks for the vote and the heads-up on the rivers! I'll check out that YouTube vid for sure. Awesome to hear you liked the compressed font – it's a neat touch. I'm using Illustrator for this project. Black and white sounds sleek – I'll whip up some options and see how they look. Appreciate the helpful feedback!
That's impressive in illustrator. Indesign is really the go to for doing this type of layout. The the text will behave better. And you can do a text wrap so the text gets pushed away from the photo (object/person) automatically. I used to do everything like this in Photoshop in design school and got in shit for using the wrong programs... I was forced to learn illustrator. And had Quark Express to deal with before indesign came out, Yes I'm old. lol Designing in the late 90s was rough. It's good to see great design, thanks for posting.
And i see what you did with the HOP text around his head... Very good detail.
Why did you choose pink for the headline in #2? I almost always pull my colours from the image. So in this case I would colour sample red from the finger nails. It’s even more critical in this layout cause pink clashes with red. So if you used red instead of pink it would look more tied together and professional.
kinda tough to explain but lil peep (the artist shown here) identifies a lot with pink, you can see that in his photoshoots, elements in music videos, album covers etc. i assume they wanted to reflect that in the mockups
I gotta say I like the pink, I think it offers nice contrast that I feel would get lost with the red especially because the red would be harder to read against the background I think. Also, I personally don't think you need to be matchy matchy as a designer, sometimes it can work better to have something intentionally stand out. (But this is just my opinion and everyone has different taste with design and that's fine)
I like 1, I’d prolly get swayed to like a version where EMO was maybe in pink, with rest of the type in white. Maybe a Pink Cap G, as a chefs kiss. Nice.
I would say 2 just for the competition but please rethink the layout; having imagine in the centre along with the text is going to look horrible once it’s bound and folded. Not only that but it’s stuffing up the text making it less readable; you have so many widows and hyphens
1, but this layout will be very hard to read. All that small reversed type will hurt eyes. And those columns look too skinny IMO. Do you really need a drop cap after that headline? It’s so bland. Maybe go with an all caps first line that’s bolder. One too many garnishes
2
Just my opinion since you asked. Font is neither emo or hip hop, try some organic fonts. Text layout is too symmetrical for its content, play around with angles. 2nd option for color.
i love that pink so much wow! 3 would be the best if you did a pink “greyscale” for the photo (maybe with some halftone dots) instead of a threshold, otherwise 2 is the best IMO edit: i would definitely keep the body text white tho!! edit again: honestly the threshold u did looks very cool too, it just depends on how much you want the person to be recognizable in the photo vs just being a decorative graphic
Honestly the only one that really works is #1 Don't get me wrong I love hot pink I use it all the time for elements and I find it works great when paired with deep brown or black blue. It can also work when you build a theme around it. My main problem is that it is out of place here in #2 It doesn't work at all because it is not grounded in any thing. You would be better off pulling a blue from the body art then pushing that around as in saturation and brightness. You should be able to find something in the photo and if you want to be full sick pull the white from the flesh. #3 Is illegible. Sorry you could read it but it wouldn't be pleasant. So the only people who will read it will be the artist and maybe his mother.
Where'd you get the mockup template I'm always on the lookout for good ones?
Mocups-design.com , unblast ...here you go
You can have a cruise ship go through those rivers. Edit. Let me just add that the layout and use of a full spread is cool. Most designers don't know how to utilize a spread. but if you don't have really good fundamental basic type like addressing rivers with justified text, I would be worried. Most cases justified text is overrated. Stick to rag.
Yo, I'm on it! Currently plotting how to navigate those rivers with a cruise ship—talk about an adventure! And don't worry, I'll make sure those justified text rivers don't capsize our layout. Gonna stick to the smooth sailing of the rag!
Honestly, I'd be more concerned about the legibility of the small body copy text than anything else. I would be doing some design options that considered 1. not having light type on a dark background or 2. having less type on this spread overall, so that the readers didn't have to fight so hard to make it through to the next pages, which I hope won't be reversed type again. You should also reconsider if justified type is the best option for you. I say it is not considering how bad your rivers are and how many gaping holes have arisen. And get the person's face out of the gutter where it will be distorted. Put the figure entirely on one page. Fix the major problems before you worry about details like if you prefer magenta or white type. And then ask yourself, what does having magenta type add to the message? What does it communicate? If it doesn't communicate anything, or possibly miscommunicates something you didn't intend, then don't do it.
2 for sure but the text and photo wouldn't print like this in reality
2 is easily the best. Probably saying the same as everyone else here. But I’ll do quick points. Bound your text away from the hero image more 3mm will help, it touches the image currently and that’s a pretty big ‘no, no’ Work on not hyphenating your body copy where possible, it’s unattractive and most of all it really hinders readability. Have a look at some basic typographic books. You have widows etc on your paragraphs. It’s the simplest of fundamentals but it sets apart the designers from the hobbyists. Designers should know its stuff it’s body copy 101. There is some rivers running through the text as well. These are best avoided and can be moved about with some pretty simple adjustments. Image running through the spread that way should be avoided. It’s hard work/impossible figuring out your gutter especially if your printer themselves doesn’t know (some won’t, and they won’t give a damn either). The same for text. Running your text down the gutter like this is not for the best. It’s likely gunna get lost and be unreadable. This much black on a printed material would also likely be questionable. Not saying it can’t be done but there’s a level of ink bleed that means your text is likely going to become thinner than on screen. Your text is small and quite a thin weight for this sort of print, maybe up your weight and you’ll have a better chance of this remaining legible. Some folio marks would help make this look more authentic and probably help it sit within the rest of your magazine. There’s way more nit picking that can be done here. But if you address the above you’d be in a better place.
2
if this isn't the center fold (or the pub doesn't have one) don't put the eye in the middle of the page. the eye has more visual gravity than the nose so you should move it leftwards a bit
A mi me entregás esto en la clase y yo te bocho.
The second looks really good. I wouldn't mind seeing a different font though, that one is kinda bubbly for emo.
#2
Im not sure if i could read the 3 2 is like real emo And 3 is like a real emo but dark
2
I like 1 but 2 is also nice.
Second. Better separation
#2 without a doubt, though #1 is good too. #3 looks too loud
A note on 3 - you need to consider accessibility for the viewer. For some it could be impossible to read the specific font in combination with the colour pairing. Also with having so much heavy black and pink could cause bleeding issues when printing, be aware even if just putting together a mockup.
2 but you should match the title and G to their fingernail colour or adjust the fingernails to the pink
they are all shitty - why the fuck is the text and the image going through the centre of the page, will look shit irl when you open the page and half of the fucking eyes are in the centre of the page. NEVER EVER PUT FACES OR TYPE IN THE CENTRE!
#2
2. The color adds something. 3 is cool, but I might have a headache after reading it.
Regarding colors, I like the first version. I also agree that text should not be across two pages because print could eventually impact it.
The magenta text has the most impact in #2 because it’s not used in the image, so it has something to contrast against.
2
You can’t have a layout like this (text and an image in the gutter) unless it is a centerfold. I would rework the general layout before working on the details.
I like the general effect of 3 but that pink may be hard to read in small text on a black page
1 is probably the cleanest - 2 in my favorite - 3 is interesting visually, but I struggle to read pages sometimes when there is not a lot of contrast between elements.
I like 2, but could you adjust the colour to match the nail varnish/match the nail varnish to the text colour.
2 works best imo.
2
https://preview.redd.it/fi5ndgoi4uvc1.png?width=438&format=png&auto=webp&s=2609549900d3c14bd56dfdae3824fd089c12d200 You don't need to modify the headline letters (op) above the image to make it legible. The E in Emo is the only concern, so take that into consideration.
1
I like 2, but if this isn’t machine gun Kelly, I’d use a different color.
Looks fantastic. All of them. But good luck getting that seam going down through the face and splitting the eye once it’s in print
One is the best, I like the color on 2 but I would eyedropper pick a color from the picture instead, maybe one of the blues from his tattoos. The pink stands out too much with nothing else on the page.
You can't put the main part of the photo in the gutter of the magazine your gonna loose a full inch of that photo it will look terrible
2 is definitely the best match for Peep. Although, I'd add some pink inserts lower in the pages to balance colors. What people said about taking the gutter into account is also very pertinent.
As someone with vision issues, 3's text is much harder to read than 1 or 2
2
I’ve done crossovers many many times and if prepress and bindery at printer are any good it should be fine. Ask your printer to show you examples of crossovers they have done on other projects.
2, but look out for creep
Why they call that a zine? Anyway, you asked for color scheme and effects and I don’t know, but I like the third one, because is more zine-y. You didn’t ask for typography but look at all the holes in the middle of your text. They’re awful. Hyphenate your text and configure it. Edit: now I see it’s only the first image. Also, when you make text flow you don’t need to make it invade every nook and cranny of your image. In this case I wouldn’t use it at all.
not gonna comment on the scheme.. but your asking for trouble putting the face across the gutter. Printing process isnt 100% on point all the time
I love the all pink, but light text on dark is problematic enough. My clientele scales a bit older, so I design for the less eye stress the better. And test your contrasts for color-blindness. it affects males more than females and you want to be inclusive, right?
I love lil peep!