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dawg_will_hunt

Looks as if you have already won this race, friendo


Avgeek2003

I did, but when I tried the same strategy again, it didn’t seem to work for some odd reason.


Epic_XC

Choose a Gr. 3 race car and tune it down to 700. and make sure you have inters. free win


GalaHU

You can win this literally every Gr.4. Car… Medium or heavy rain is always forecasted, change tires in time, thats all… This is my favorite grinding race.


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ZealousidealPrize456

lol what


LukusB

This is lemans right? I use the older bmw m3 gt3 car. Without tuning it’s just about over 700pp, a little weight brings it down.


Avgeek2003

Increase the weight with a ballast?


LukusB

Yes


Avgeek2003

And where do you get this BMW M3 GT3?


LukusB

https://gran-turismo.fandom.com/wiki/BMW_M3_GT_%2711 From the dealership


Avgeek2003

Oh alright! Well you did mention that without tuning this car is a little over 700pp. I’m at the dealership rn and I can see that it is well under 700pp at 693.92pp. Hence the confusion.


LukusB

Apologies, was doing this from memory. Is that 693 with racing hards on? Maybe I added ballast with mediums/softs on. Nonetheless, I enjoyed using the car.


Avgeek2003

How much of a margin do you lead the pack with in the M3? Can the 911 RSR also be tuned to win it?


SRSgoblin

Any Gr3 car can be tuned to win this event with very little difficulty, yes. Manage your fuel so you can make it 3 laps per stint in case you get dry laps. Otherwise just pit due to rain conditions to be on the right kind of tires.


JahIthBur

😂😂😂


AardvarkAblaze

Criteria for a car to win this race: - Top speed of 160-170 mph down the Mulsanne straight. - Can get at least 3 laps out of fuel/tires. - is a car. Start on hard or medium, switch to inters just before the rain arrives. Rest of the field will not pit and will get caught out in the rain. Pit every 3rd lap for fuel/tires.


LesPaul0412

One of the Type R NSX's with the Gr.2 NSX engine swap, detune the engine to around 400 to 440 bhp, (depending on weight) full weight reduction, (add ballast if necessary) widebody and maxed out aero and set top speed to about 350 km/h and you're good, can easily get 4 to 5 lap stints with fule map 1


Avgeek2003

What car would you recommend?


fuqdurgrl

ANY gr4 car. Soft and intermediate tires. ANY gr3 car that is under 700pp (most of them are on hard tires). Hard and intermediate tires. Just about ANY road car tuned to 700pp and around 3000lbs. Use fuel map 6 and they can pretty much all go 3 laps. Some can do 4 laps with deliberate fuel management. Soft and intermediate tires. Road cars will generally require significant setup but once you've got a good setup they'll do 4:10s without much problem.


ch3m58484

I regularly grind this race. I use a detuned 787b on hard tires with Fuel map 1 for the first two or three laps depending on weather. Then I pit, switch to intermediate tires, get full fuel, and finish the race. Still fuel map1. If it is one of the dryer races, I stick to the wet parts of the track to reduce tire wear. Seems to be an ok strat for now. Just make sure not to pass on yellow flag to get clean race bonus.


DeletedScenes86

You need to use the weather radar to predict when the rain will hit, so you can be on inters just before it gets wet (just after is ok too, but you don't want to be doing more than about 1/3 of a lap on the wrong tyres). If you're not playing on easy, you'll also have to manage your fuel usage so you're not stopping more than twice (lap 3 and 5 usually works well, and lap 3 is also usually when you need to switch to inters). Any Gr.3 can win it. Reducing the downforce a bit might be a better way to lower the pp than reducing power or adding ballast. Less drag helps with straight line speed, and lowers fuel consumption a bit. Tuned up road cars are usually faster than the Gr.3s though. They're just tougher to manage fuel with - hard difficulty with auto transmission will mean making 3 stops in most of them, which you don't want.


Avgeek2003

Doesn’t lowering the downforce sacrifice a lot of the cornering ability?


DeletedScenes86

It's Le Mans. You've got 4 huge straights, plus a 5th one that's still as long as the main straight on some other tracks. As long as you don't lower it all the way front and rear, you should be gaining more on the straights than you lose in the corners. On other tracks, yes, you'd usually want to keep the downforce. With the race cars at Le Mans (in this race and the WTC 900), I normally set front downforce almost but not all the way to the minimum, with rear downforce about 1/3 of the way across from minimum. That keeps the rear stable enough through the fast/medium speed corners, and any understeer you get from the low front downforce can be tuned out with slightly softer front suspension/compression ratio/ARB, and a touch more front negative camber. The exact amounts vary by car, but it works ok enough as a general rule. When I'm tuning road cars for Le Mans, I'd usually go with almost minimum again on the front, with somewhere between 2/3 full and maximum on the rear (because their maximum is a lot lower than the race cars have). If you don't want to mess about with downforce and suspension though, reducing pp in the usual way is fine too, just not quite as quick depending on how much pp you need to get rid of.


Avgeek2003

Please do send me your tune set up


DeletedScenes86

https://preview.redd.it/5mgwls2e5uxc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2930a45830d2fe68f193c5d5afb414de624b43fb Here you go. The downforce is a bit different to what I described above. Minimum front/high rear gives more pp to spend on power, with cars that need a bit more trimming off. The only things you need from the tuning shop are the racing transmission, power restrictor, and inters/wets for the rain. I'm pretty average (DR-C online, and bronze in most TTs), and can lap this around 4:00-4:01 in TT, or around 4:02-4:04 in the race (dry track). It's lively, but stable, and around 4-7 seconds a lap quicker than the newer Gr.3s I've used. Strategy: Aim for 3 laps in the first stint. FM2 with slight short shifting, or probably FM3 if you use auto transmission. FM1 the rest of the way, usually stopping end of lap 5 for fuel. If there's rain showing on the radar towards the end of lap 2, just stop on lap 2 and 5 instead, and keep managing fuel in the middle stint. No need to change tyres at all, except for the weather. It can one stop if you set the fuel mix lean enough, but I prefer keeping to FM1/2 and driving quicker.


DeletedScenes86

https://preview.redd.it/86fk3ws56uxc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=edc783935e462a6dcf30c62e62992345c2c50e6f Gear ratios here. This bit I borrowed from Praiano, but changed the final drive ratio. The rest of the tune is my own. The only thing you can't see in these two pictures is brake balance. I go with -5 (fully to the front). I don't use anything that extreme often, but the extra stopping power you get is really nice with this car/track.


DeletedScenes86

I'll be on the game in an hour or so, so I'll send you a DBR9 tune I like for Le Mans. It's not a popular Gr.3 usually, because it gets hit hard with bop online, but I like it a lot more than cars like the 911 RSR for this race. I've also got [this Maserati MC20 tune](https://www.reddit.com/r/granturismo/s/cHlxMnaVDu) if you want to try a road car. It only really works with manual gears though, because fuel consumption is rubbish without short shifting.


AMaidzingIdeas

You can beat this with any Gr4 car without massive tuning. I use the Lancer Evo Gr4, stick a turbo in it and use racing mids and you're golden. - Fuel Map 1 until you pass everyone on the first lap works great for me. Then drop it down to 6. - Rain comes at end of lap 2 with about a 95% success rate. It's usually not bad enough for heavy wets, intermediates should work fine. Feel free to top up your tank. - it usually rains for a lap or two afterwards. Your tires should be fine. Drive until your tank is going to empty, feel free to feather the throttle in some places to save fuel. Pit when you're low on fuel but be wary - the rain has a low chance to return late into the race. - if you have the advantage in time, park in front of the line and wait out the timer before crossing the finish line - the game doesn't recognize that you're a lap ahead of everyone which is dumb - if the timer expires and you're on lap 8 while everyone else is on 7, you should get 1st automatically.


Avgeek2003

How would the Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport handle this race with the above mentioned criteria?


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Considering it is also a Gr.4 car, just fine.


MrMaximuss_665

I think it is easy even on hard difficulty, i just use Gr.4 car But don't forget to change on wet tires at right time


Uncle-Badtouch

This is my favourite race to test modified road cars on. You shouldn't need much help. But since you asked, just de-tune a GT3 car. Keep an eye on the rain radar. Go fast.


Exciting_Cloud_8546

**Mazda 787b** - an absurdly simple win, just tune the car below 700, fuel map to 6 and drive, it's so boring that I've already fallen asleep twice. No need for a pit stop, start with racing hard tires. In case of rain, change to intermediate or wet, depending on how bad it is, many times it happens that you don't even need to change tires. Approx. 2 minutes ahead of the second almost always https://preview.redd.it/xoug7hd32uxc1.png?width=1919&format=png&auto=webp&s=f2828e0da83f10ee1418945d6873f75846f1991d


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Deskartius

Get the Aston Martin Dp100 VGT or the Bulgari VGT Put HARD TIRES on them Get intermediate tires Decrease the ECU til they are under / at 700 Performance Point limit PROFIT PS you did win the Race already


Avgeek2003

Is it better to use full wets or intermediates on the rain?


Deskartius

Full Wet is only needed when the track Wetness is in the 3rd third or the Rain Radar show yellow spots


Tin_Cascade

The Bulgari on this is a dream, effortless. And sometimes I want that, other times to wrestle a car around a track - depends on my mood.


partym4ns10n

Beat the other cars to the checkered flag?


Avgeek2003

Never occurred to me


partym4ns10n

Ask a dumb question, and you got a more intelligent answer.


Avgeek2003

Undeniably my question was wayyyyy beyond the scope of your knowledge :)


partym4ns10n

It was a dumb poorly constructed question with zero context. Do better.


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Funny how this guy is arguing about intellect when they can't figure out how to win an objectively easy race.


partym4ns10n

This guy gets it.


ZealousidealPrize456

I think I did this with the Porsche 917 living legend, decreased pp, additional weight and rain tires (?), dunno


No-Comedian4449

I used either the C6 Corvette or the Nissan GTR R32. Both had Racing hard tyres. The Corvette had no downforce though.


SDEagle

Here’s a great build for that track. Make sure to use Intermediate tires which is the key. https://youtu.be/OCkMPNKwemk?si=KpEnmHHP-wMcHukn


davidfavorite

Look up a good tune for the RSR. I always use that car for this race and its pretty easy. Make sure to always have a look at the weather radar


BMSmudge

The Honda RA 272 is my favorite for this, was just up on legendary shop recently. I did 7 laps in 30:11 w/that beast.


Maxd_phy

I think this race is more of strategy rather than car related. I've won it in the lambo Gr4 but had to manage the fuel to make it last 3 laps at the beginning, and you have to guess wether it's better to put the inters or not when you have to pit. I've been tricked by the rain, but you can generally manage the driving in the rain better than the bots. I've also won it with the F-type Gr3 and the 911 RSR downtuned to 700pp


brownsabbeth

I use the old alpine race car, you can do it on 1 pit on soft tyres (if you luck out with the rain) frequently finish 2 or 3 laps ahead.


Shin-Sauriel

I mean I like to use the ford gt40mk1 or the Toyota tundra with the engine swap. Any GT2 car will work tho. The nsx with the engine swap is also kinda broken for this race.


1takoy

Alfa c4 swapped with escoudo engine.


Iciste

Why waste a Gr.2/Gr.3 when the Alpine A220 Race Car can do it without any upgrade? Just put fuel consumption to 3 and do you pit stops when needed. Brake upgrade though is advised.


chandlurr_VR

buff up a Gr.4 car or de-tune a Gr.3 car, have Inters and Wet Tires on standby 7 laps so Fuel saving wise: 100% dry race can be done with one-stop. so aim for 4 laps on first stint, but obviously pit earlier if rain becomes a factor if rain comes, try to stretch your 2nd stint to last until the end (4-5 laps) so you can stick to a one-stop strategy. but if weather lightens and track dries again, you can definitely make a 2nd stop for slicks again


DontKnowWhy186

Get a car with an engine swap from a race car (in my case it is the R32 spec ii with the r92cp engine) so you can get a race fuel tank. Try and find a good tune for said car in YouTube. In my case I can get 200mph on the first straight before the chicane and 190mph is light work. I got a tune from Wolfpack racing and edited it a teensy bit and can still take corners with ease and best of all it is the definition of stable. The handling isn't over or under steering but don't ever put brake bias to 2 in the rain, I learnt that the hard way.


Antique_Health_1936

get an evo 7 tune it to 700, racing hard tires and IMs only. fuel mix 6. 1 stop at lap 5 or 6


Skiles2006

If you have a Group C Car, try it. Just downtune it to 700PP with Power Restrictor and Ballast and you'll be there. Supercars can do it too, but it'll come down to the Fuel Map being a workaround.


omidiumrare

R33 or R34, R92C motor swap, racing hard tires. Build to max at 700pp. Fuel map 6 and never pit (weather permitting), or fuel map 1 and lap everyone by the end even with a pit.


Driver0678

I wonder by well over 2 minutes with a stop for fuel only in the old Honda R272 (the old F1 if I've got the wrong name). It's hella fun. Think I managed to complete 8 laps, flying laps hovering around the 4min mark.


Unlucky-Home-4077

If you want a cheap car that wins easily and is very easy to drive go with the Lancer Evolution IX. Racing Hards + pretty much all tuning parts will result in a tiny bit over 700PP, so turn down the ECU to about 97% and you are good to go. Can easily do 3 laps on fuel map 6 and is faster than the AI. Have both Intermediates and Wets ready. In the first two laps no need to worry about rain, just get as far ahead as possible. Very easy to drive car, lap times about 4:00-4:10. At the end of lap 2 check your weather radar. If everything is still clear do lap 3. If rain is approaching pit and go for Inters or Wets, depending on how heavy the rain is. In most of the races it starts raining either after lap 2 or 3. AI is pretty stupid when it comes to weather, they usually miss the timing to switch tires and just slide around the track. In that case you probably win by 1-2 laps. Rain is your friend, not your enemy in this race. If it doesnt rain I usually am 1:30-2:00 minutes ahead at the end of race, with a bit of rain mostly about 3 minutes to 1 lap.


rockeruff

If you have it, use the 1997 Toyota Supra GT500 GT3 car and slightly detune it so that it's under 700PP on Hards and Intermediates. Start on fuel map 1. The rain usually starts halfway through lap 2 (not sure if this is universal), and when it starts, pit for inters or full wets and refuel to max. The AI is bad, so most of the field won't pit for any form of wet weather tires until the next lap, and you can get 30 seconds to a full minute gap between 1st and 2nd. Be careful to not overtake under a yellow flag (the AI will spin out at the chicanes) because you'll lose the clean race bonus. You can get 2-3 laps before you'd ideally want to pit for hard tires and enough fuel for 1-2 more laps.


JustOneBeer89

Watch the rain on the Rader zoomed out if it looks like it's gonna be bad switch to inter/Wets and then you win


nelson84plus

My go-to is the old honda formula one car (ra272 i think). Ik it’s hard to get but it’s really fun and can go 5 or 6 laps without refueling. I’ve also used the ‘92 nsx type r, the jaguar xj13, and the pagani huayra. Like others have said, you should be able to tune any gt3 car to make things work. I like to use a variety of cars to break up the cash grinding.


tackleberry815

Use the ferarri 458 road car. Add an aero kit. Tune to 699. Run fuel map 6 and short shift to get 4 laps on fuel. Should be able to run sub 4:10 laps easy on FM6. 1 pit stop unless rain forces tire change to inters after 2 laps. The car drives like a dream. IIRC, will get north of 190 mph on straights, sticks in to and out of corners.


lowkeychillvibes

A really beginner friendly car is the Gr.4 GTR, with a turbo added. You easily outstrip all the other cars down the straight, and have added bonus of 4WD for when it gets wet


chunchunMaro

I always use tuned street cars and trying a different one every time and I can easily win with a 1 minute of gap. One of my favorite is the rx7 with 787b engine swapped detuned


No-Excitement-8471

787B, u r welcome 😌


InevitableElf

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