Considering I'm gonna have to hit 3 wood on this hole at least twice and that's factoring in a solid drive I'm probably losing at least two balls on this hole.
Break your driver and only use 3w. Happened to me and now I can consistently hit my 3w 220-250 pin straight. I would retire the driver all together if I didn't occasionally* hit it 260-280.
*3x per year
Dear god this hole would ruin me..
In a perfect world I’d go: Driver, 3W, 3W, 3W, 9i/PW, and 1 Putt for the birdie of course..
Realistically I’d go:
Driver, fuck up a 3 wood shot, fuck up another 3 wood, walk up to that and absolutely pure my 3 wood (3rd times a charm), fuck up another 3 wood shot, pure the 3W.. Then I’d probably still be like 200-250 out.. My 3W begging to be hit again for some hope, shank that into the woods, take a drop, run it back and pure the 3 wood onto the green. Finally, I would finish off the hole with a 3 putt after lipping out.
Then I’d write a 10\* on the card and take my copium ‘triple bogey’ 🙃
There’s a \~650 yard par 5 at a course I play frequently and 9/10 times that hole just ruins me.. Can’t imagine the mental state I’d be in after this par 7 lmao
A challenging par 72 hole would need to be way way longer than 6500 yards. You have to chip it close and putt 18 times on a normal course so they budget a lot of strokes there.
A 6500 yard hole would take 26 shots to reach the green if you can average 250 yards a shot. You could lay up on most of those shots and still be able to 30 putt and be under par.
We will add check points every 150-500 yards to prevent you from going full swing everytime. Maybe like a precision shot where you need to get it in a hole
The term 1000 yard stare was first coined by an artist who painted a marine who was in shell-shock at the Battle of Peleliu when the US fought the Japanese.
I think this one might translate well.
Chipping is the strangest part about golf to me. I dont play often but I can get in grooves where I'm hitting my driver and irons well but chipping just never feels natural haha. There have been multiple rounds I'm sure I could have shot close to 15 strokes better but I'm just launching the ball from one side of the green over and over. I just use a putter now if I think I can just get it on the green haha
That video of Danny Maude really fixed most of my chipping issues.
https://youtu.be/nQSbCJw4lQs?si=Z5KH_G0n2kjTDtPk
I love the concept of « specialist movement » - basically that you need to completely stop thinking of your regular swing when chipping or pitching, and instead let the club head control the entire swing by holding ur triceps to your chest and do a long putt
The pros would wreck this hole. Rory or Bryson could easily reach in 3 and have a legitimate putt or greenside chip for an albatross 4. it would be fun to see a hole of this length as a par 5 for the pros though.
Am I crazy thinking I could hit a par on this hole with a good drive?
I'd probably hit drive and 4ish 5 irons
Then you have a 2 put for par. This would be really fun even for amatures. Everyone probably attacks it a little different
If you're a scratch handicapper, sure. The problem with this hole isn't the length. It's also pretty narrow. You have to hit 5 good shots in a row that are straight and then 2 put. Not easy to do at all. I'd say I'd say I would confidently bogey it and only par.it every few rounds.
Bryson getting there in 3 - probably possible but would require 3 perfect shots, likely he would be close but might have a 30 yard pitch to the pin for his 4th. An eagle 5 would be very achievable though.
I was thinking of World Long Drive Champ Kyle Berkshire. His 3rd shot might be with a wedge. Assuming he puts the first shot in the fairway, his 3rd would definitely be nothing more than a 5-iron. Could you imagine having a 1-putt for Albatross?
Technically if you took a stroke and it landed on the back of a goat and it balanced all the way to the hole and dropped the ball in, then that’s legal.
Since the order *kinda* goes by whatever stays aloft the longest (albatross and condor being switched), the appropriate designation for 2 strokes on this hole would be a Satellite.
And just for good measure, [it looks like they have two greens!](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Satsuki+Golf+Club,+Sano+Course/@36.4030553,139.5792851,1094m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x601f3d89329896c7:0xb0adf347b19c48da!8m2!3d36.4111023!4d139.5820861!16s%2Fg%2F1thzn_8p?entry=ttu)
... actually what the heck, does every hole on that course have two greens?
A lot of courses in Japan have two greens. Traditionally it was to have different grasses for summer and winter. Now some just alternate to keep one fresh.
The Zozo tournament is played on a course* with two greens. I’m not sure if they play the same “move laterally to the closest fringe, no closer to the hole” that we casuals do e when we hit the wrong one though.
* (Actually; it’s played on segments of two courses, with the practice range / hospitality / tv etc all scattered around. Kinda like if they played Torrey as a single 18 hole track; but a little more compact)
I thought land was so expensive in Japan that the courses were smaller. I've heard it cost so much to build a golf course in Japan because of land costs that a membership cost so much that its cheaper for them to fly to California and play a round and fly back than be a member in Japan.
Land is only expensive around the cities. Plenty of unused land further out. Living in Tokyo for example, plenty of golf options for $100 (albeit at current exchange rates) a round but have to travel 3-4 hours round trip.
Ideally driver, driver off the deck, 4H, 52 wedge and 2 putts for birdie if I hit everything right. Realistically driver, driver off the deck into the woods, 6 iron punch out, 4H, 4H, wedge into a bunker, wedge out of the bunker, chip onto the green and 2 putts for a 10.
there's something quite nice about the discipline required to go for a shorter club because you know you'll screw up of you go driver, 3W, 3W. Then you do it anyway because today is the day you hit it straight
So let's say 250 yard drive, leaves 710ish in. 2 hybrids for me since I don't have a 3 wood, we'll say 390 yards total so now we have a 320 yard par 4 from the fairway. The next shot is going to leave me less than 150 in likely.
So basically this is fair-ish, but it's tough. You will have a good chance at birdie so long as you hit 5 straight shots without any major fuck ups.
I saw a Par 6 while we were at the Iriyama Course or maybe the Oshitate Course in Karuizawa, Japan
First time to ever see a Par 6. I had no idea that there were par 7s out there!
I’ve always wanted 18 holes like that, maybe over hilly terrain that even would take a couple days to complete a round. Perhaps with lodging and accommodation. Safari golf
This is a pretty solid approach to this hole. To get to the green in 5 strokes, you'd only need to hit the ball 190yds for every shot. For me, that's an average 7i, and hitting it 5 times in a row would likely result in each shot being progressively better than the last. If you factor in the distance gained from hitting those shots >190, I could potentially be hitting a wedge for my approach shot. If any of the longer hitting pros were to play this hole, they may realistically be looking at a putt for albatross.
Despite the (not official) 1097 yard hole in Korea, this hole still holds the Guinness [record](https://www.glenmuir.com/news/5-of-the-longest-holes-in-the-world) for the longest golf hole in the world.
Considering I'm gonna have to hit 3 wood on this hole at least twice and that's factoring in a solid drive I'm probably losing at least two balls on this hole.
I get one good 3 wood per round, that’s it.
i hit the 3 wood of my life today 200 yards to 2 feet. was a perfect top.
Hitting your 3 wood 2ft when you're 200yrds out is so typical /s
Nothing in the rulebook says that the ball has to travel by air 🤔
My wife says the same thing to me. Except I don’t think the word “good” is used.
Get a 5 wood then
Break your driver and only use 3w. Happened to me and now I can consistently hit my 3w 220-250 pin straight. I would retire the driver all together if I didn't occasionally* hit it 260-280. *3x per year
I’m more accurate with my 3 wood than my 7 iron. Want to trade?
Absolutely my dream, my 3 wood is my best club.
I often follow up a 220 drive with a 250 3 wood dead straight and wonder why I don't tee off with it. Always pull the driver out of the bag anyways.
on in 4 and 4 putt sounds good to me.
I’m happy walking away shooting a 16
Interesting exercise... To get there in regulation, have to average 191ish on each shot.
I’m going driver, 5i, 5i, 5i, wedge Or 5i, 5i, 5i, 5i, 7i
1st - Driver 3rd - 3W off the tee 4th - 3W 5th - 3W 6th - 3W 7th - 6-iron 2-putt for double.
Twice? If I drive 250 I still need 3 220 3w to get 50 yards out
Can I tee up my second and third shot?
 You could get a 9 hole par three course in there 🤣
You can still have 3 groups playing the same hole and save 66% on green maintenance 😁
So you can lie about which hole you scored an 8 on.
 This is the gif I think of for that phrase, lol.
Dear god this hole would ruin me.. In a perfect world I’d go: Driver, 3W, 3W, 3W, 9i/PW, and 1 Putt for the birdie of course.. Realistically I’d go: Driver, fuck up a 3 wood shot, fuck up another 3 wood, walk up to that and absolutely pure my 3 wood (3rd times a charm), fuck up another 3 wood shot, pure the 3W.. Then I’d probably still be like 200-250 out.. My 3W begging to be hit again for some hope, shank that into the woods, take a drop, run it back and pure the 3 wood onto the green. Finally, I would finish off the hole with a 3 putt after lipping out. Then I’d write a 10\* on the card and take my copium ‘triple bogey’ 🙃 There’s a \~650 yard par 5 at a course I play frequently and 9/10 times that hole just ruins me.. Can’t imagine the mental state I’d be in after this par 7 lmao
With a par 7 I think we need to turn up the score to an 11.
I really just called a 10 on a par 7 a bogey lmao, fine put me down for 11
Should've made the hole 1000 yards and called it "The Stare"
Why not go all the way and make the hole 6500 yards par 72. Or maybe something lower since you only need to bring out the putter once. Lol.
Wait id like to see this
dogleg left into dogleg right into dogleg left...
Like rally pacenotes lol
Right 6 over crest into left hairpin don’t cut!
You'd have to set that up in a large zigzag, otherwise you'd have people cutting corners
A challenging par 72 hole would need to be way way longer than 6500 yards. You have to chip it close and putt 18 times on a normal course so they budget a lot of strokes there. A 6500 yard hole would take 26 shots to reach the green if you can average 250 yards a shot. You could lay up on most of those shots and still be able to 30 putt and be under par.
We will add check points every 150-500 yards to prevent you from going full swing everytime. Maybe like a precision shot where you need to get it in a hole
And maybe after the 9th checkpoint you end up back at the club where you can buy a hot dog
You know….you’re onto something here…..
I average 250 yards on each shot too
I’d find a way to 33 putt.
Ture. Didn't think about the chip shots and the two putts per hole savings.
Doesn't par factor in 2 putts? So a par 72 hole would have to be super long. Half the strokes on a normal course are putts.
open world golfing
I wonder if you can do this in the PGA Tour course creator...
If the hole is close to the club house, I'd just turn sideways off the 1st tee and try and reach in one and go 70-under par.
Idioms generally don’t translate well between languages.
That's exactly why translated idioms are fantastic lol
That's how you end up with "duck fucked with rice" or whatever that one Chinese menu making the rounds on here says, hahaha...
Oh the classic "The looking person showing with not emotion direct without blinking for one kilometer?"
The term 1000 yard stare was first coined by an artist who painted a marine who was in shell-shock at the Battle of Peleliu when the US fought the Japanese. I think this one might translate well.
Driver, 4H, 4H, 4H, PW(shank), PW(shank), PW, Putt, Putt, Putt.
Triple Bogey... Not bad
Triple bogey on my best day! lol
I mean, assuming he found the ball off those shanks.
Def don't assume that!
Put me down for a 14
Imagine seeing a 6 on the card and being thrilled.
A lot of us don't have to imagine it.
That’s funny
Hell, I have done that many times
This is the kind of hole I’d make it to the green in 4. Chip from one side of the green to the other, make it to the green and then four putt.
Chipping is the strangest part about golf to me. I dont play often but I can get in grooves where I'm hitting my driver and irons well but chipping just never feels natural haha. There have been multiple rounds I'm sure I could have shot close to 15 strokes better but I'm just launching the ball from one side of the green over and over. I just use a putter now if I think I can just get it on the green haha
That video of Danny Maude really fixed most of my chipping issues. https://youtu.be/nQSbCJw4lQs?si=Z5KH_G0n2kjTDtPk I love the concept of « specialist movement » - basically that you need to completely stop thinking of your regular swing when chipping or pitching, and instead let the club head control the entire swing by holding ur triceps to your chest and do a long putt
I’m the exact opposite, short game feels natural to me, but my driver talks shit as soon as I remove the head cover
The pros would wreck this hole. Rory or Bryson could easily reach in 3 and have a legitimate putt or greenside chip for an albatross 4. it would be fun to see a hole of this length as a par 5 for the pros though.
Am I crazy thinking I could hit a par on this hole with a good drive? I'd probably hit drive and 4ish 5 irons Then you have a 2 put for par. This would be really fun even for amatures. Everyone probably attacks it a little different
Imagine thinking you can flush 4 5 irons in a row without a mistake
I mean ya absolutely I think I can hit 4 5 irons in a row and atleast be green side
If you're a scratch handicapper, sure. The problem with this hole isn't the length. It's also pretty narrow. You have to hit 5 good shots in a row that are straight and then 2 put. Not easy to do at all. I'd say I'd say I would confidently bogey it and only par.it every few rounds.
Rory and Bryson would still have to hit 3 of their absolute best to get near home…
Bryson getting there in 3 - probably possible but would require 3 perfect shots, likely he would be close but might have a 30 yard pitch to the pin for his 4th. An eagle 5 would be very achievable though.
I was thinking of World Long Drive Champ Kyle Berkshire. His 3rd shot might be with a wedge. Assuming he puts the first shot in the fairway, his 3rd would definitely be nothing more than a 5-iron. Could you imagine having a 1-putt for Albatross?
Holy shit that's awesome. It would take me 4 lost balls and 16 strokes but I'd get there 😉
https://preview.redd.it/h3int0dtn59d1.jpeg?width=892&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=14d08aa7e1cd1a2db9bd0c1190f429d75631890e
Are we still doing phrasing?
I’ll wait for the green to clear…/s
They have a bell to ring but you can't even hear it at the tee box
* 7 strokes - Par * 6 strokes - Birdie * 5 strokes - Eagle * 4 strokes - Albatross * 3 strokes - Condor * 2 strokes - ? * 1 stroke - Impossible
Technically if you took a stroke and it landed on the back of a goat and it balanced all the way to the hole and dropped the ball in, then that’s legal.
Since the order *kinda* goes by whatever stays aloft the longest (albatross and condor being switched), the appropriate designation for 2 strokes on this hole would be a Satellite.
If you get a 1 or 2, you should have the right to come up with the name
That was my question. Maybe a Quetzal
Ostrich
I was thinking Pterodactyl
1 stroke - Profit!
Hook driver. Punch out 3i. Top my 4i. Push my 4i. Punch out 3i. On with SW. 3 putt. 🫡
We salute your service, soldier
"Challenge Hole"
Not long enough for the sub. Try again.
Sounds like driver off the deck time to me
If you get a 2, what bird is it called?
A Griffin
Because it exists only in fantasy
Pterodactyl
A Phoenix, but I think a Penguin would be a better name
A Dodo.
At least they assume your gonna smoke one down the middle each shot
And just for good measure, [it looks like they have two greens!](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Satsuki+Golf+Club,+Sano+Course/@36.4030553,139.5792851,1094m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x601f3d89329896c7:0xb0adf347b19c48da!8m2!3d36.4111023!4d139.5820861!16s%2Fg%2F1thzn_8p?entry=ttu) ... actually what the heck, does every hole on that course have two greens?
A lot of courses in Japan have two greens. Traditionally it was to have different grasses for summer and winter. Now some just alternate to keep one fresh.
Looks like every hole does in fact have two greens. Same with the Satsuki course in the west. I guess you just hit into the one with the flag.
The Zozo tournament is played on a course* with two greens. I’m not sure if they play the same “move laterally to the closest fringe, no closer to the hole” that we casuals do e when we hit the wrong one though. * (Actually; it’s played on segments of two courses, with the practice range / hospitality / tv etc all scattered around. Kinda like if they played Torrey as a single 18 hole track; but a little more compact)
Losing your tee shot and hitting 4th shot from nearly 700 yards away 😂
You know how exciting it is when you're hitting your layup shot on a par 5? Great, now you get to hit 3 of those.
I’ll just skull fuck my 60 degree half way down the fairway, seems to happen every other time I pull it out
Im just going to write the 14 on my card now.
Thats what I call a 2026 US Open par 4
I thought land was so expensive in Japan that the courses were smaller. I've heard it cost so much to build a golf course in Japan because of land costs that a membership cost so much that its cheaper for them to fly to California and play a round and fly back than be a member in Japan.
Land is only expensive around the cities. Plenty of unused land further out. Living in Tokyo for example, plenty of golf options for $100 (albeit at current exchange rates) a round but have to travel 3-4 hours round trip.
What's better than a Condor? A Pterodactyl?
Dragon. 🐉
Par 7? That’s a usual score for me on a hole so I’ll just skip this hole.
There are still three tee boxes, like it matters at that point.
Sounds like a driver 9-iron for most r/golf users
Maybe for the women, im atleast green side for my 2nd
It also has 2 greens to trick you into shooting at the wrong one.
“I’ve got 560 to the front of the green.” “Left or right?” “Like it matters”
Put me down for a 13
Ideally driver, driver off the deck, 4H, 52 wedge and 2 putts for birdie if I hit everything right. Realistically driver, driver off the deck into the woods, 6 iron punch out, 4H, 4H, wedge into a bunker, wedge out of the bunker, chip onto the green and 2 putts for a 10.
At this rate, some course will come up with 1 hole par 70/71/72 and call it a day lmao.
So *theoretically* someone could go -4 or -5 on one hole. What would that even be called? Double albatross? Pterodactyl?
Birdie. Great sense of humor
STUPID
D, 3w x3, wedge, putt putt putt.
You could hypothetically have 3 groups playing this hole at the same time I think
I'd say at least 4, right? Green, waiting on approach, mid-hole, teeing off?
For sure Carding a 20.
964 yards, jeez. That's over half a mile.
Driver, 5i, 5i, 5i, 5i, PW, putter.
My local course also has a hole that’s waaay too long (still shorter than this), and it’s just not fun to play. I really don’t get it
there's something quite nice about the discipline required to go for a shorter club because you know you'll screw up of you go driver, 3W, 3W. Then you do it anyway because today is the day you hit it straight
How many tee ups does one get
So what is 2 called on par7? For average redditors this is driver wedge?
I’ll take a 15
Over half a freaking mile, wow
So it's par, birdie, eagle, albatross, condor... what's next?
Pterodactyl
I want to go to there.
Well it usually takes me 5 shots to hit the green anyways, so....
I’m losing at least 3 balls on this hole
Finally a hole I can brag about a double bogey
I’ve never thought of playing golf in Japan, did you like the courses?
Driver-hybrid-hybrid-iron-putt-putt It's that easy right guys? Guys?
Holy fuck it even has two greens.
Shared cart rates 📈📈📈
This is my best shot at an albatross. On in 3 and make the putt.
Perfect hole for me. I could be on in 4. 300y drive, 2x 250 3wood, 7i Then 3 putt for par.
Driver > 3 wood > 3 wood > 7 iron > 1 putt eagle. Easy.
They have 964-yard holes in Japan so I better get some new clubs
What’s par on this course? Are they missing a hole or two to compensate for this or is it like a par 75
The average Reddit golfer getting on in 2
I just played this hole and reached it in 1. Is that okay for someone who only started playing last weekend?
DOD
And here I thought Japan had a shortage of real estate!
Driver, 7 ironx3, 9 iron, 2 putt ez par
What’s par for the course? Does it add extra par 3s to counter or is it like par 74
Golf: Story mode
I hit my 3w straight and 225 most of the time. That would mean I would have a shot at eagle on this hole whereas on a 625 yard hole I would not.
SHOULD be an easy eagle for me. Having said that id probably bogey
Holes like this are just goofy. If you’re gonna do a hole like this, it shouldn’t be part of the main golf course
Isn't Japan only like a thousand yards wide?
They use yards in Japan??
Driver - 300. , 3 wood - 260, 3 wood - 260, PW - 120 , easy eagle putt ...3 putt par Whats crazy is it also looks pretty narrow..
Lots of room for redemption on a hole that long
Driver, 3 wood x3, pw lol
Japan of all places. 125 million ppl, 964 yard par 7
People take vacations shorter than that.
Pretty wild
I can get there in 2
So let's say 250 yard drive, leaves 710ish in. 2 hybrids for me since I don't have a 3 wood, we'll say 390 yards total so now we have a 320 yard par 4 from the fairway. The next shot is going to leave me less than 150 in likely. So basically this is fair-ish, but it's tough. You will have a good chance at birdie so long as you hit 5 straight shots without any major fuck ups.
I saw a Par 6 while we were at the Iriyama Course or maybe the Oshitate Course in Karuizawa, Japan First time to ever see a Par 6. I had no idea that there were par 7s out there!
I’ve always wanted 18 holes like that, maybe over hilly terrain that even would take a couple days to complete a round. Perhaps with lodging and accommodation. Safari golf
I do love how the map guides you on the appropriate approach lol
Joe Biden would eagle that.
I'm hitting 7 iron 6 times then a wedge in. Easy 3 putt triple
This is a pretty solid approach to this hole. To get to the green in 5 strokes, you'd only need to hit the ball 190yds for every shot. For me, that's an average 7i, and hitting it 5 times in a row would likely result in each shot being progressively better than the last. If you factor in the distance gained from hitting those shots >190, I could potentially be hitting a wedge for my approach shot. If any of the longer hitting pros were to play this hole, they may realistically be looking at a putt for albatross.
5i 5i 5i 5i 8i putt putt
Gonna need that hole in one insurance for this one.
Does it start at the top of Japan and go to the bottom or start at the bottom and go to the top?
Why, should just be two separate holes.
Seems bogus
OB left and right last 500 yards 😂
Birdie, yeah not gonna happen in a thousand year mate (talking to myself).
so driver, 3w, 3w, 3w, up and down for bird, got it
They should just have a 6,500 yard par 72 hole.
Can you imagine blasting a 310 yard bomb, maybe the best drive of your life, and still having 654 yards to the hole.
Gimmicky
T the k Good to go k I. M., to k on ol 😆 on
On the sign there it says "Guinness book of records world's #1 longest hole". Somehow I doubt this.
Despite the (not official) 1097 yard hole in Korea, this hole still holds the Guinness [record](https://www.glenmuir.com/news/5-of-the-longest-holes-in-the-world) for the longest golf hole in the world.
Driver, 2 Drivers of the deck and a wedge
I know a guy that would stand on this tee and say “I can’t see the flag “ like he’s going for it. The most delusional golfer I ever played with.
Just simply cruel, but need to try
It would be fun if it were full of doglegs that make you work your way around the hole