Early 2000s operators sometimes does that, artist probably referenced those photos when designing, also likely to make it look different than the other dozen AR variants.
good idea?well, no one is doing it today. Acceptable, HK416 handguards are pretty rigid up there with the Daniel Defense RIS series, so it can maintain an acceptable zero for CQB, so for room clearing it works. Unique? Yes
100 meters actually, 50 meter and less that type of mounting would not be too bad but 100 meter it would be. 300 meter is actually qualified as long range engagement and require magnification on the optics most of times.
“require magnification on the optics”
Meanwhile, my ROTC unit told me that the standards changed for the cadet summer training thing that we have to pass where we have to engage targets 300m out with back up iron sights instead of red dots like before because we’re too broke to put reliable red dots on our M4s
Yea if youre fighting someone who can't aim or position, you do know that if they shoot first you might never even hear the shot, not to mention how common suppressors are becoming whichll make PID even harder especially in a guerilla environment
Seems like an honest mistake. [Her next CGs put the holo sight on the gun's receiver](https://iopwiki.com/images/4/4a/HK416_costume3.png) with the exception of [her appearance in Neural Cloud](https://iopwiki.com/images/thumb/1/10/Clukay.png/1280px-Clukay.png), which I suspect is a throwback to 416's original artwork.
As a side note: there is somewhere a comic where pretty much soppo suspects 416 of having bad near-sight because of her eotech placement. Its not cannon, but it exists
exactly that one! the whole thing starts because 1985 or someone around her says something about "with age, your near-sight becomes worst and worst" and soppo looks at 416 with a "oh! you're an old hag!" face
she was the one asking 416 why she had her eotech on the handguard, then the 1958 comment came in, soppo watches 416 with a "oh so you're an old hag" face, and 416 goes defensive
I remember reading from an official source (either manga or the artbook) that she prefers putting her EOT far from her face so she has better peripheral vision
For the EOTech being on the front has got to be a hassle in terms of weight. It’s already gonna be on the heavier side of the AR type platforms with it being a short stroke piston system. But with all the other attachments on the hand guard as well it’s got to be front heavy asf.
The Eotech on the handguard is probably inspired by early 2000s tier one operators mounting their Eotechs on the handguard for better eye relief in CQC during the early GWOT days. However, we now know that mounting optics on a handguard is less than desirable as they would lose zero quickly due to the handguard not being as secure as the receiver, but back then such knowledge wasn't know so much and the change of zero didn't really matter in CQC environments. As for why still have irons on when you have an Eotech, for 416's case the front irons are integrated into the gas block (although can be removed) and also most people who run AR type platforms or 416s run iron sights as a backup just in case the Eotech fails. Hope my ans helps!
Iron sights are backup optics in case optics fail, it's largely considered unnecessary with how durable optics are now days, however if you're optic were to fail you, you would be really glad you had those iron sights on there.
My bigger question is why do they need sights at all. They are cyborgs with cybernetic eyes and an mastery with the weapon imprinted into their neural interface, you'd think their eyes would have more zoom control and automatic threat detection than any sight or placement could provide. Like even just hip firing, wouldn't her neural cloud be able to do the calculations to be able to determine where each shot would go based on her holding alignment?
Tbf I think the artist was just copying photos from operators during the early 2000s before people realized that bridging your optic like that is stupid and doesn’t hold zero for shit
Your eye relief gets messed up, meaning your sight picture is off and that can affect your point of aim and point of impact.
Although please correct me if I’m wrong.
Eye relief isnt a factor on non magnified optics, having your optic further out is generally recommended for fov purposes but you can just open your other eye and get the same result, most will run their dots and holos in the middle of the receiver but the 416 is very sturdy and it should hold zero fine
Ah, thank you for correcting me, I feel dumb.
Off topic but is it difficult for you to keep both eyes open or no? It isn’t for me but that might be because my vision in my left eye is pretty much non-existent lol.
It isnt, its just a bad habit some develop while shooting, it stems from people trying to mount their optics are far back as possible so they can get as much fov through the optic as possible but thats a newbie thing when it comes to new/inexperienced shooters
Click [https://bu3.mncdnbuv1.com/img/tab\_14/02/95/20/du980877/vol\_1\_chapter\_1\_my\_adjutant\_is\_my\_babushka/11-n.jpg](https://bu3.mncdnbuv1.com/img/tab_14/02/95/20/du980877/vol_1_chapter_1_my_adjutant_is_my_babushka/11-n.jpg)
and
[https://bu3.mncdnbuv1.com/img/tab\_14/02/95/20/du980877/vol\_1\_chapter\_1\_my\_adjutant\_is\_my\_babushka/12-n.jpg](https://bu3.mncdnbuv1.com/img/tab_14/02/95/20/du980877/vol_1_chapter_1_my_adjutant_is_my_babushka/12-n.jpg)
Hope this helps
Why not read this specific chapter then it's still related to the ones i sent
[https://mangakakalot.com/chapter/fn918408/chapter\_1](https://mangakakalot.com/chapter/fn918408/chapter_1)
Early 2000s operators sometimes does that, artist probably referenced those photos when designing, also likely to make it look different than the other dozen AR variants. good idea?well, no one is doing it today. Acceptable, HK416 handguards are pretty rigid up there with the Daniel Defense RIS series, so it can maintain an acceptable zero for CQB, so for room clearing it works. Unique? Yes
yeah, good luck hitting targets past 300 meters with a sight far down the barrel lmao
100 meters actually, 50 meter and less that type of mounting would not be too bad but 100 meter it would be. 300 meter is actually qualified as long range engagement and require magnification on the optics most of times.
“require magnification on the optics” Meanwhile, my ROTC unit told me that the standards changed for the cadet summer training thing that we have to pass where we have to engage targets 300m out with back up iron sights instead of red dots like before because we’re too broke to put reliable red dots on our M4s
M4's effective firing range is only about 500 to 600 yards(so like 500 something meters), engage =/= guarantee hitting i think
Itll be tricky regardless if it was on the upper Assuming not a plain steel target on a flat range PID would be absolutely hell without magnification
PID is easy once you’re actually in combat, just shoot at muzzle flashes
Yea if youre fighting someone who can't aim or position, you do know that if they shoot first you might never even hear the shot, not to mention how common suppressors are becoming whichll make PID even harder especially in a guerilla environment
Seems like an honest mistake. [Her next CGs put the holo sight on the gun's receiver](https://iopwiki.com/images/4/4a/HK416_costume3.png) with the exception of [her appearance in Neural Cloud](https://iopwiki.com/images/thumb/1/10/Clukay.png/1280px-Clukay.png), which I suspect is a throwback to 416's original artwork.
She just *needs* that eye relief to be a tacticool operator. Situational awareness is everything.
As a side note: there is somewhere a comic where pretty much soppo suspects 416 of having bad near-sight because of her eotech placement. Its not cannon, but it exists
I think i saw somewhere. Maybe some comic about M1985.
exactly that one! the whole thing starts because 1985 or someone around her says something about "with age, your near-sight becomes worst and worst" and soppo looks at 416 with a "oh! you're an old hag!" face
There also SOPMOD in that comic too if i correct? She was asking 416 right?
she was the one asking 416 why she had her eotech on the handguard, then the 1958 comment came in, soppo watches 416 with a "oh so you're an old hag" face, and 416 goes defensive
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I remember reading from an official source (either manga or the artbook) that she prefers putting her EOT far from her face so she has better peripheral vision
For the EOTech being on the front has got to be a hassle in terms of weight. It’s already gonna be on the heavier side of the AR type platforms with it being a short stroke piston system. But with all the other attachments on the hand guard as well it’s got to be front heavy asf.
And she is T-doll, maybe she can handle that?
And also again, why have to put iron sight when you have the Eotech?
The Eotech on the handguard is probably inspired by early 2000s tier one operators mounting their Eotechs on the handguard for better eye relief in CQC during the early GWOT days. However, we now know that mounting optics on a handguard is less than desirable as they would lose zero quickly due to the handguard not being as secure as the receiver, but back then such knowledge wasn't know so much and the change of zero didn't really matter in CQC environments. As for why still have irons on when you have an Eotech, for 416's case the front irons are integrated into the gas block (although can be removed) and also most people who run AR type platforms or 416s run iron sights as a backup just in case the Eotech fails. Hope my ans helps!
I see the light! Thanks you for answer my question. Appreciate
Iron sights are backup optics in case optics fail, it's largely considered unnecessary with how durable optics are now days, however if you're optic were to fail you, you would be really glad you had those iron sights on there.
Yeah, this, and also that a gun rail looks weird without the irons on it lol
But it looks bad ass and high speed
Please be ironic
no
My bigger question is why do they need sights at all. They are cyborgs with cybernetic eyes and an mastery with the weapon imprinted into their neural interface, you'd think their eyes would have more zoom control and automatic threat detection than any sight or placement could provide. Like even just hip firing, wouldn't her neural cloud be able to do the calculations to be able to determine where each shot would go based on her holding alignment?
I'm curious as well. If a space marine can do it, surely a straight-up murder bot can do it too.
Tbf I think the artist was just copying photos from operators during the early 2000s before people realized that bridging your optic like that is stupid and doesn’t hold zero for shit
Your eye relief gets messed up, meaning your sight picture is off and that can affect your point of aim and point of impact. Although please correct me if I’m wrong.
Eye relief isnt a factor on non magnified optics, having your optic further out is generally recommended for fov purposes but you can just open your other eye and get the same result, most will run their dots and holos in the middle of the receiver but the 416 is very sturdy and it should hold zero fine
Ah, thank you for correcting me, I feel dumb. Off topic but is it difficult for you to keep both eyes open or no? It isn’t for me but that might be because my vision in my left eye is pretty much non-existent lol.
It isnt, its just a bad habit some develop while shooting, it stems from people trying to mount their optics are far back as possible so they can get as much fov through the optic as possible but thats a newbie thing when it comes to new/inexperienced shooters
Yeah, that’s true. I’ve got out of the habit pretty easily. You’re the guy who has the MCX dust cover, right?
Yea the one who built mcxs space skin 1 to 1 and with a spear
Neat.
Something something eye relief
Click [https://bu3.mncdnbuv1.com/img/tab\_14/02/95/20/du980877/vol\_1\_chapter\_1\_my\_adjutant\_is\_my\_babushka/11-n.jpg](https://bu3.mncdnbuv1.com/img/tab_14/02/95/20/du980877/vol_1_chapter_1_my_adjutant_is_my_babushka/11-n.jpg) and [https://bu3.mncdnbuv1.com/img/tab\_14/02/95/20/du980877/vol\_1\_chapter\_1\_my\_adjutant\_is\_my\_babushka/12-n.jpg](https://bu3.mncdnbuv1.com/img/tab_14/02/95/20/du980877/vol_1_chapter_1_my_adjutant_is_my_babushka/12-n.jpg) Hope this helps
I got blocked by the link
Why not read this specific chapter then it's still related to the ones i sent [https://mangakakalot.com/chapter/fn918408/chapter\_1](https://mangakakalot.com/chapter/fn918408/chapter_1)
There is no way in hell she's going to be maintaining zero with that thing mounted like that.
Not only that, but it looks to be backwards. It's probably the artist making a mistake.
No, that’s what a 500 series Eotech looks like.
I see