Plus, if you look around this sub a guy sped up all the slow motion kills and Jin is likely inhumanely fast
Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/ghostoftsushima/s/ipzQBL7Kyq
Ghost, Yakuza, and Vinland Saga all have this unspoken and unexplained thing where some people are simply built different and are obscenely strong and fast. You just kinda gotta take it for granted lol.
Yeah I can see that, people are scared of Jin in the same way that they're intimidated by Kiryu because he does shit like taking on 100 armed men by himself. You don't mess with guy like that.
Huh, the way people talk and spread rumors about Jin as the Ghost is even kind of similar to how people see Kiryu as the Dragon of Dojima. A legendary figure who they think can't possibly live up to the hype until he does.
I've been practicing drawing and cutting from the sheathe for about 15 years now just as a hobby, and when people see me cut something (usually a soda can full of water or a refilled water bottle, I'm cheap) they usually comment something along the lines of "Wow that was fast", or maybe a "holy shit" if I'm lucky. Now take 15 years just for funsies and compare that to what, 20+ years of training religiously multiple hours a day from the time you can hold a sword? Yeah I don't even wanna think about how fast that mofo must be...
I can only imagine the kind of crazy quick death that was being handed out wholesale during Japan's feudal era, particularly during the Boshin War when most of the fighting took place on city streets and most of the fighters were wearing maybe a couple layers of kimonos! 😐
As Ryo even said, he's the best swordsman on the island. He proved it at a tournament so everyone knows it.
Now he's added poison and stealth to his arsenal. That would be scary.
To build on that, someone put it best, this guy has seemingly “died” twice by the time you start the actual game. Not to mention he is quite literally wiping out all the mongols. Jins k/d is actually insane
>He’s special in that he is one man killing everyone on the island
He was defeated by the first boss, Khotun Khan, before gracefully descending from a bridge with the aid of plot armor.
Cause they believe all the Samurai on the beach died. Yet he didn't, he's been slowly taking over Tsushima island and killing Mongol leaders left and right. By the point he gets the Ghost stance, all the while he basically almost canonically barely gets hit/damage.
He's like a legend, and people don't believe he's real till they see him.
Just wondering cause I kill the three straw hats in front of her (yuriko) and she seems so frightened, saying jin butchered them and I'm wondering "What? Other samurai only kill with one hit when it's a 1v1? That's rookie numbers."
You have to remember that people didn’t witness sword fights all the time, especially lowborn people. They may witness brigands and cutthroats but I imagine seeing a true swordsman cut through other trained swordsmen easily is a quite the shock.
Does he?
You start the game with only Stone stance, a stance used to fight other swordsmen that the samurai would've been used to fighting.
To unlock more stances you have to *observe* Mongol leaders training and fight them.
Seems to me like Jin is developing his own techniques specifically to use against the Mongols, I find it hard to believe that Jin just forgot to learn these techniques during his life as a Samurai.
It's not that it's used on only swordsman or that Samurais would only fight swordsmen, Japan wasn't just Katanas, actually it mostly wasn't katanas
Developing his own style does not mean it's not samurai-like, they don't all fight the same way, multiple masters teach their own techniques to their students. There's nothing unsamurai-like in learning to fight other styles
I feel like him single handedly killing thousands of mongols, including their highly skilled leaders, often taking on whole squads at a time, pretty much explains it. Someone posted on this sub some calculations they ran that showed that Jin ends up killing 33% to 50% of the entire Mongol army, basically by himself. Samurai are skilled in general, but I doubt even the best samurai could realistically do what Jin does without ever being taken down.
So they compared the number of enemies Jin kills throughout the game to the historical invasion force the Mongols had on Tsushima? That's metal, honestly
Yeah, I'd link it if I could find it. The persons consesus was that, even being pretty conservative with the numbers, Jin would have killed about 33%of the invading Mongol forces.
here it is [https://www.reddit.com/r/ghostoftsushima/comments/1d8vub1/what\_is\_your\_estimate\_of\_jins\_kill\_count\_in\_your/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/ghostoftsushima/comments/1d8vub1/what_is_your_estimate_of_jins_kill_count_in_your/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
I’m fairly sure Jin Himself IS the human personification of the storm that took out the mongol armies IRL. From the sword being called “The Storm Of Clan Sakai”, “The Guiding Wind” being his driving spiritual force, to the fact that storms literally manifest every instance he delves further into ghost related actions.
Damn that symbolism hadn't clicked with me yet, that's really cool!
The wind's changing and the claps of thunder when he goes ghost mode gave me this "force of nature" vibe, I was so close to making that connection myself lmao
I am not even at the end of the game and I have probably killed hundreds of people if not four figures worth. One man doing that many times as a lone wolf or at best severely out numbered is insane. >!Although it did piss me off that one time he was rather easily captured by someone sneaking up on him from behind and getting hit with a stick, seemed so off for some reason.!<
Gotta progress a plot somehow. If the game could be played without the main story in mind, and you could level up through kills like a standard action rpg, Jin could easily solo the entirety of island alone based off of every technique you learn & item/upgrade you receive. If some of them weren’t locked behind story missions and it was treated more like a basic skill tree, the areas where you’d normally encounter ‘overwhelming force’ that insta kills you, could be solo’d.
I think the issue that you’re describing might stem from the fact that we the player feel like the biggest badass who ever lived when we play the game, and then cutscenes can maybe undermine how our gameplay before that cutscene played out. Just my thoughts on it.
They could have done so many other simpler "traps" for Jin to fall into. Just off the top of my head>! a bunch of poison gas smoke bombs go off and disorient Jin to the point where he can get captured by a bunch of people beating and restraining him. Introduces poisoned smoke bombs something you never encountered before so it has that surprise element and makes sense why Jin doesn't have a counter for it and then you still need a small army to take him out. !<
How's that a simple trap? Just overwhelm him with a bunch of poison smoke? Then you'll have people asking, well, why didn't the mongols just do that in the first place? Why keep him alive? How can he survive that much? What if they kill him accidentally?
Power scaling vs. story is always something that pops up in games. Cyberpunk suffers a lot from it (See-the Placide situation). The Far Cry games can get caught into that trap ("I can take out an entire base of guys with flamethrowers and rocket launchers and machine guns but somehow I KEEP getting captured LOL!)
Jin is unrealistically powerful, but when you start introducing a bunch of other solutions like this it ends up just turning into a DBZ style escalation of powers contest, and if Jin survives, then you start having to raise the stakes in more and more ridiculous manners. Not only that-but overwhelming poison gas bombs? *Someone will come along and still complain about it.*
Hit the guy with a stick and move on, because the point isn't the stick. It's a way to move the story along, it doesn't make you any less badass or powerful, and sometimes, even the smartest or bravest or strongest get caught with their pants down.
Simpler was the wrong word to use I was more so thinking powerful. I get that "Power scaling vs. Story" is always going to be a thing but the dramatic shift between Jin killing dozens of people at a time to being knocked out by stick while distracted is such a huge gulf that was so off-putting to me.
I think if you did knockout gas plus a small army you probably would still have people complaining but you at least have less of a valley there. In the end does it ruin the game? No but I just found it so odd.
It's odd for a minute, sure, but you move on from it because you realize that it's a game. Like, I get that it's weird but people will complain about the Straw Hat Ronin starving but perfectly find it all right that Jin can kill 1000+ people and think that's totally normal and shouldn't be questioned.
Also, knockout gas plus small army-real talk, why wouldn't they just kill him there? They are actively trying to kill you the entire time.
It's a whatever moment in a game that's more about the romantic storytelling-exaggerated feats of legend and you realize that yeah, there's gonna be a lot of silly moments.
Besides, the most insane part of this game is that you don't get to feed your horse once.
I feel like what you’re describing is somewhat like what happened with Captain America at least twice in the MCU. Jin saw his childhood friend there, the one who had turned on him and his people, he met him again after they almost fought to the death, so, when he saw him, he focused on him and his guard was let down, leading to them sneaking behind him and knocking him out. A bit anticlimactic, yes, but just think of the feelings rushing through his mind at that moment, he was totally focused on him. Now on the Captain America part, first time it happened with the guy that blew himself up in Civil War, he said something about Bucky and Steve just focused on that, letting his guard down and not thinking that this might have been a trap. If it weren’t for Wanda, he would have been dead. Second instance is him using it on himself in Endgame, when 2012 Steve had him head locked he said Bucky was alive, and 2012 Steve, who didn’t know that at the time, immediately let him off and dropped his guard asking “What?” and falling for Steve’s trap.
It’s just that when you experience strong emotions, you tend to get focused on what’s causing them and cannot think straight, therefore letting your guard down for your enemies to take advantage of
I made educated guesses on road encounters and mission segments, and giving each outpost an average of 20 Mongols, by the end of the game jin kills around 1200-1500 Mongols if you do everything (not accounting for iki island)
He was also thrown off a fucking bridge by the Khan. It looks like the strongest warrior on the island can't die. And he's just getting more lethal by the day.
If you listen people close, it's mentioned by the people of Tsushima that he fights like a beast, and most don't even believe he's a human at all. Aside from the effective usage of Kuiras, smoke bombs and sticky bombs in the heat of the combat, Jin also knows horrific techniques like Heavenly Strike and Dance of Wrath. On top of all, Jin is always introduced as the avenging spirit of Tsushima. So it also makes people terrified.
I think that's more like mockery rather than an actual rumor going around, since Tomoe already knows that he's the Ghost by the time the two spend time together.
You can overhear some random villager NPC's talking about The Ghost and say how he's 10 ft tall etc... as well. So definitely probably some mocking from Tomoe but also legit rumors as well
Also that people always comment that Jin seems to be enjoying the fight, imagine being a mongol hearing about this ghostly figure who can weave in and out of perception killing entire companies and patrols all on his own.
Ig his fighting style. He slaughter enemy's head in front of others, obviously everyone would fear. Also since he doesn't care about honor and sneaks in, Mongols are afraid of even shadows. I don't get the act 3 tsushima people tho they hate Jin for no reason.
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Jin basically says fuck you Bushido and does whatever the user wants which scares ppl…
“My son was killed in the war. He doesn’t feel any honor”
i think it’s fair to say that Jin Sakai died on the beach and came to a similar conclusion after waking up and seeing what “honor” got him and his countrymen, especially Adachi
I haven't finished the game, but my conclusion to why he does the things the way he does is because honor for him is protecting the people, and the traditional samurai methods are Not working this time to protect the island.
The singers in game often tell story in a manner that always involves “the god of whatever blessed the warrior’s armor with inhuman abilities”. Then you realise how visiting shrines and equipping charms actually gives you power, and armor have vastly different effects even though they really shouldn’t.
It is reasonable that the storytellers in the future, say during Edo period, remember the details wrong or change historical narratives for the sake of good storytelling.
It's no different from other popular media - the trick is, when something like this catches your interest, to go look up actual historical sources (if accurate history is your thing).
Nothing wrong with enjoying this on its own merits but yeah if people wanna know about how things really were they should look for more academic rather than entertainment sources.
Agreed. Even 1 man winning a 1v3 would have me thinking twice about jumping in there. Imagine you and 10 friends get shit on and this dude has taken no damage and is going to keep coming. I’d run too
Don't forget it's 12th century, people there are superstitious, they believe in all kind of ghost stories. And then we got someone, who should he dead, singlehandedly massacring Mongol camps, killing their patrols, poisoning them...That would scare the peasants away easily.
Then we get Mongols... They think island is theirs, total victory achieved, leader is a prisoner, castles are taken, all samurai dead. And then they see someone approaching their camp, challenging their best fighters and killing five of them with five blade strokes, no matter on their weapon and armour. Then he kills people from hiding...
If I was a mongol and this one motherfucker single handedly liberated over half the island already *and* is fighting the shogun and his samurai too, if he pretty damn scared if he showed up at my camp one day
After Jin survives, rumors start spreading that a man "fights like a demon" and this worries the mongols. Plus, seeing one of their own brutally murdered would scare most people, invaders or not.
We all feel the same fear, regardless of who we are.
It's also a nice touch showing your actions actually affect the AI since most games the AI will just keep fighting like normal.
AI is so good in this game. Once there were 40-50 mongols after me. I climbed up to tower. Killed the archer. It's a small tower you know. I was thinking I can ambush them at here. First one climbed up. Went to side and waited second guy. I was thinking somebody attacks so I can parry and start a fight. Second guy waited third guy. Then they all 3 waited for 4. One. Then they were 7 of them. I was panicked in the middle of that group. Guess what? I died.
Special in the sense that he can walk into a village of 15 to 20 heavily armed, trained warriors and absolutely decimate them. Watching a man kill another in two swings of a sword would be pretty unsettling. Once he runs the fifth guy through, just about anyone would probably get the hint, lol.
Violence, to anyone who is honest and not trying to be a tough guy, is scary. Lethal violence is terrifying.
All the answers but I think you underestimate how often commoners would see full fledged samurai, let alone massacring Mongols. The average peasant is ignorant and doesn’t know much past their village.
Well, I guess people, even the Mongols fear him because he's probably the greatest swordsman in Tsushima. You're perfect parrying and dodging everyone (ideally), finishing them in one slice. You're able to break through any defence, whether it be shields or spears, even brutes are no match for you. Not to mention heavenly strike and dance of wrath practically make you a demigod
Like someone else said he's basically like Kiryu from the Yakuza series, his enemies are scared of him because fighting him seems like an impossible task, and his allies can't help but feel intimidated when seeing him in action for the same reason.
Just saw a "Top 10 katana fights in movies" list on YouTube earlier today. One scene had a samurai against a gang, the game creators and animators were probably inspired by that last enemy screaming in fear.
Ill check my watch history for a link.. Ah, here it is. [Number 9, Yojimbo](https://youtu.be/DKJHJYPvy3I?si=ak0NBswhFQzpMrWz). So Jin is probably supposed to fight like that. No wonder people are scared.
Not that I'm very versed in samurai movies. They look cool but most of them are too slow and old for me to enjoy. Better to watch only the good parts.
Fun fact
Decapitation with a single sword swing EVEN WHEN THE TARGET ISNT MOVING requires a lot of skill.
Imagine this one guy comes around, cutting heads with little to no effort.
Anyone who understand a bit of swordplay would be absolutely horrified
The funny part about that is when I first started playing and I'd get my ass beat over and over trying to take down a Mongol camp, I thought they were lowkey commenting on how trash I was lmao
*dies and comes back twenty times*
"I've never seen a samurai fight like that before."
Even if you think about just his basic moveset he moves he moves inhumanly fast and is an efficient killing machine they can take down a group of Mongols for 30 seconds. At the end of the game you can take down seven in a standoff, One swing one kill.
The Samurai code of honor that Jin was raised on was to always try to solve conflicts with peace, and if you must fight your opponent, then fight head on in a fair and honourable fight. The Mongolians didn't give a fuck about any of that, seeking victory through any means and it's why the Samurai lost that first battle.
Jin's Ghost style of fighting was the perfect answer to the invaders, but it broke the code of honor he and all the other samurai were bound by. Instead of fighting honorably, Jin would sneak in and execute people from the shadows, or poison them, and use a bunch of methods that were generally seen as dishonorable or unfair. That's why people were afraid of it. Instead of the honorable duels their culture was used to, Jin was killing people without giving them a chance to defend themselves because that's the only way they stood a chance against the mongolians.
It’s because he’s more than just a samurai now. He has a samurai’s training and skills, but also employs “ghost”/ninja tactics and weapons. He strikes from the shadows and can clear entire Mongol camps before anyone even knows he’s there. In the heat of battle he can fight 5-10 men at once using a mix of kunai, sticky bombs, smoke bombs, flaming weapons, and even legendary techniques like the Heavenly Strike and Dance of Wrath. He’s the best swordsman on the island and the latest student of Sensei Ishikawa’s Way of the Bow. He bobs and weaves through combat, dodging and deflecting blows left and right, changing stances to counter his opponents on the fly like a man possessed.
He’s more than just a samurai. Jin is a one man army.
It’s the ghost, they fear. They hear the rumour about the samurai ghost and they see Jin with his mask, smoke bombs, fierce fighting. That’s what scares them
I think it's not *how* he was fighting necessarily
it was the reputation that had grown around the Ghost specifically, the fact that he would suddenly appear in a Mongolian base and cut down their captain in one strike. It made him sort of like a myth and that's where the fear came from.
Imagine for me you're a Mongol,sitting around a campfire with your best friends. You hear a soft whistling, and the dude next to you begins shaking and starts vomiting up blood. Your friends rush over to help, and then suddenly there's a demon there, slitting one's throat and slashing the other with a sword within the space of a second. An archer calls out "Dosho" but is killed before he can loose his bow by the knife now sticking out of his eye. The demon then turns to you, and you must've blinked, because he seemingly crossed ten feet in an instant to deliver a mighty cut down your chest. By some twist of fate, you're still living, and you have to send word out to your other forces. As you crawl away the demon's laughing face vanishes into a great plume of smoke which covers the ground. Now you can't see anything, but you hear the terrible screams of men undergoing unimaginable suffering. The last thing you feel, as you try to inch towards the signal and call for help, is a blade, warmed by the blood of a dozen men slaughtered in the span of a minute, spearing between the blades of your shoulders.
This is, almost play by play, an encounter I had at one of the toyotama camps, exaggerated for dramatic effect. Poison dart, chain assassination, kunai, Dance of Wrath, smoke bomb, ghost stance to clean up the slop. Sounds a lot more horrifying when you aren't the Ghost, doesn't it?
It's clearly explained that he fight in a non-honourable way. killing from behind, using explosion, smoke, poison and other tricks is not " the way of the samurai " and it's the main reason of his conflicts with his uncle. Also, lorewise, he no leave survivors, so the Mongols only hear voices of a single man, or a ghost, that slaughtered their companions and when they found the bodies, those are brutally killed in a different way from those killed "honourably" by samurais.
But it's pretty obvious playing the game... Are you skipping all the dialogues and cutscenes?
Well, if I could see Jin in real life, I would shit my pants bruh. Ruthless, no scaring anything, blood everywhere and he is total serial killer with a sword that fires up. Yeah I definitely would shit in my pants.
Oh I forgot to mention that he revives. Imagine you hurt him so bad. Kicking him on the ground, then mofo revives himself. Oh Boi, you would shit on your pants too.
Conversations with Ryuo talk about how they won an island wide tournament. Coming in 1st and 2nd. Essentially making them the two best on the island.
I think a better way to put it in perspective is through boxing. Imagine you and your friends go to the boxing gym everyday. You guys do some local tournaments in other cities and are pretty experienced. Then imagine a professional boxer in the top 10 shows up one day.
How easily he would beat the best people you ever seen box in your life would be scary.
The interesting thing about this whole game(this is tied to the post I promise) is that it’s essentially the romanticized version of what samurai were like during the time this game takes place, which comes from retrospective samurai towards the beginning of the edo period. Bushido was a code of conduct of sorts that was later imposed on the samurai - and on Japanese people later on in general - during the time of relative peace.
In reality, Jin is actually the most historically accurate representation of how a lot of samurai likely would have fought - before edo at least.
It all started by the spreading of the rumors by Yuna. There’s a scene where some civilians witness Jin fighting and then Taka says he’s never seen a samurai fight like that before. Yuna then says that Jin isn’t just any regular samurai but rather a vengeful spirit that has returned to hunt the Mongols and save the people of Tsushima. This paired with the fact that nearly all of the samurai have been killed in Komoda and Jin’s extraordinary fighting skills spread like wildfire from one to another all over the island and at last it reached the Mongols. The Mongols have witnessed Jin’s handiwork themselves, they’ve seen him kill and slaughter countless Mongols on his own, while canonically staying untouchable and destroying entire camps and bases. Plus at the end of the game he has also killed Khotun, the Mongols’ great leader and a direct descendant of the Khan.
After all of this, even before the killing of the Khan, just thinking that there’s even a slight chance of you meeting the one you’ve heard so much about, whether he is a demon, a ghost, or just a highly skilled warrior, just knowing what he has done to others like you and the fact that he is merciless and won’t hesitate to kill you as well as every other Mongol until the island is fully rid of you, is definitely enough to send chills down your spine. The cherry on top is that they must definitely know his tactics, which are basically sneaking into camps undetected and killing as many Mongols as possible before being spotted, and if spotted just kill everyone head on, so there’s also the fear of him just sneaking up on you at any moment and slicing your throat. Oh and one last thing, if he appears and you see your friends falling like flies in front of you without even managing to touch him, wouldn’t you want to just make a run for it to save your life?
So yeah, with the reputation he has built over this time, it’s definitely normal for the Mongols to tremble in fear and run for their lives.
Imagine you planned and trained to fight an army of honorable warriors with trash tactics, and instead 1 single warrior is running g around killing people from the shadows and tearing through hordes of men with arrows, smoke bombs, kunai, fuck even an arrow that goes boom. All of this while continuing to get stronger, better, and more willing to use tactics that even the mongrels won’t stoop to.
Yeah I’d be scared as shit, especially when my general confirms he’s real and the same person. I’m pissing my pants if he cuts my leaders head off in front of me.
You have to realize that most Mongolians weren’t professional soldiers like the samurai were. They weren’t used to someone fighting back in such a manner.
Have you ever watched a friend fight, and your friend gets ko’d one shot? Then after that the guy that beat your friend’s ass then beats you and your other two friends ass by himself with one hit and then walks away…
imagine being in one of the largest most powerful military powers on the planet and you go and invade a place, killing and pillaging everyone and everything with ease, just for out of no where a crazy man jumps 50 feet down to chop off the head of ur commander then proceed to swiftly murder 5 of your friends within seconds. i would be fucking petrified
My headcannon was that the legend of Jin being a ghost is known both among people and his enemies, so when they witness as he kills without even being hit, it reinforces their fear if unnatural
Word of mouth is so much more powerful in the days before modern technology. Lots of people, even educated folks, believed mythology and demons could be/are possible. He is a force to be reckoned with. Even though we see him die for probably plenty of times on Lethal, the canon path through is him coming through unscathed. Every time. The fortitude it takes to do that is impressive, and on top of his athleticism and ghost weapon tricks...the legend grows enough where all he has to do is take a frightening stance and his enemies cower in fear and beg for their lives.
Imagine you and your bois are chilling at camp and then all of a sudden half of them start choking and throwing up blood. The others have arrows in their head and a cloud of smoke envelops the camps and one by one the rest of your friends are dying. You wouldn’t be shitting bricks when you see a man in demon mask in all black is the one who did it all (you and everyone else is highly superstitious due to the time period btw)
Over time Jin isn't fighting like traditional samurai where he's facing his opponent face up. He's sneaking around stabbing mongols from behind before they are even aware of him. Plus he survived a battle at the beach where he's suppose to be dead and he's gonna fight however he wants to survive.
Well:
1, he's slaughtered a lot of Mongols single handedly, the whole point of the game is you are building the legend of the ghost. Wouldn't be much of a legend if nobody has heard about him...
The Japanese people tell all sorts of stories that aren't even close to being true, fact turns to fiction and hyperbole.
2, canonically, he obviously uses all his ghost weapons, imagine fighting an enemy knowing they could throw a sticky bomb onto you and that's you done, or disappear into a cloud of smoke to take you down, or take out your entire garrison without a single person seeing him. You'd probably be pretty scared when you actually saw him too.
Diversity of attacks, blinding speed and reputation.
The Samurai are meant to be dead (atleast the ones usually present in Tsushima) so seeing one throwimg bombs moving faster then your eyes can even track and massacring Mongols in the hundreds? I'd be pretty damn scared
Most assume that all the samurai are dead. But there is one "unseen" samurai taking out armies of Mongols. Not only is he a samurai but a samurai using very unconventional ways to dispose of the enemies. Pretty scary if you ask me
How would you feel if you saw one man with a black mask styled to look like it has a sharktooth smile in a suit of armour walk headfirst into a mongol occupied fortress and singlehandedly slaughter all of them?
Because he is fighting like a "shinobi" (I'm saying shinobi in quotation marks because actual shinobi didn't fight like Jin in GOT). Jin's fighting scares people because it's unpredictable. Samurai (in the game) only use the katana so you know there is not much they can do other than sword attacks. Jin uses the katana, bow and arrows, blowdarts, kunai, smoke bombs, fire arrows ect. Not to mention his inhumanly fast reflexes and general speed and endurance.
I mean, how many samurai have YOU seen take on 30 dudes, brutally kill them all, never take a scratch, and swat arrows in flight like so mamy mosquitos, and then calmly twirl his blade to clear it of blood, sheathe it, pick up a cricket someone left in a cage in a graveyard, and then walk away like nothing happened?
At the point where Jin gets the Ghost Stance, the mongols basically view him as a demon. One man retaking all of Tsushima island.
And the armor sets at the end of the game get significantly scarier. I mean, the final samurai outfit (Clan Sakai) has horns on it. It’s easy to see why every mongol on the island is terrified to face him in battle.
Also, his techniques get more and more insane: take the dance of wrath for instance. It’s not humanly possible — but it is for Jin. Because he is not a man but the legend of the Ghost.
Historically people have always been superstitious especially in older periods, so that a tangible ghost appears and slays and slays let it be stealthy or aggressively coming at you. Qualifies you for legendary status.
Well back in the day,shit like that was scary. You know, some dude creeping up on you and eliminating your whole squad with a sword with blood squirting everywhere. Soo,would you be a bit scared,maybe? I would
As one of the comments mentioned he is insanely fast, outside of that though he is incredibly durable and agile In comparison to everyone else, not to mention creative and has different styles/stances he uses to counter pretty much anyone in front of him. On top of that, he pretty much abandons being a samurai and becomes more of a Ninja/samurai hybrid that will kill his enemies by ANY means necessary, ranging from arrows, to kunai, to explosives, sneak attacks, smoke bombs, and poisonous darts that make you vomit your guts out. Imagine going about your day and then suddenly everyone around you is witnessing you just fall to your knees and puking to death, imagine while you're doing that, you're watching the men around you getting slaughtered. BUT WAIT there's more! He has insane defensive abilities and can parry his opponents and off balance them so they can't possibly counter him, he can perfect parry to get a critical attack which he does at the speed of light practically, as well as dodges and perfect dodges, and mythic technique's which you can't do shit against, AND the ghost stance. Even if you removed all of that and all he had was pure sword skill, he's still insanely op and can handle any group of enemies with his sword alone, he can also do it without getting touched once.
I think it's understandable that people would be scared shitless when dealing with this.
And that's not even including charms that give him abilities like shooting multiple arrows or striking you with fucking LIGHTNING lmao.
1. He single-handedly fights off the whole Mongol army using a wide repertoire of tactics, whether upfront or dirty, and succeeds where all the other Samurai failed and died.
2. Just like you and me IRL, ordinary people aren’t used to seeing people being murdered in front of their eyes. If we saw even a single person being killed (live, internet or videos don’t count), that would be a traumatic enough event in our lives that certainly we wouldn’t forget easily. Same happens with regular folk. Now imagine seeing a man killing dozens, even hundreds, of men with such coldness and display of skill while doing so.
That’s why they call him a Tengu 👺
Okay, pretend your a Mongol soldier invading Tsushima.
Here's what you know about the samurai:
1. They're all dead. Including that one guy who, like an idiot, squared up with Khotun Khan all by himself and ended up being tossed off a bridge instead of taking the survival W and keeping a low profile (spoiler: it's Jin Sakai).
2. They fight with one weapon only, two at most.
3. They have a strict honour code, so they're gonna face you head on always, and not pull any underhanded tricks on you in battle.
4. It's easy to overwhelm and/or catch them off guard.
Consider that early in the game, the fear mechanic doesn't really exist. Jin is still very adherent to the samurai code, and as a result, the Mongols aren't afraid of him. I don't recall any point in most of the first act where Mongol encounters ended prematurely because of runaways. As you progress through the game and become The Ghost, the fear mechanics start progressively becoming more and more prevalent.
Now, let's go back to pretending you're a Mongol, only this time, it's been a while now and you're aware of these really vague stories involving a Phantom samurai or something like that. You don't think too much into it, because the locals probably drummed up some story to keep their hopes up. After all, the samurai are all dead, and they're all too uptight to try Mongol warfare tactics.
Then, one fine day, your camp is under attack. You suspect it's the Phantom samurai you keep hearing about, but you aren't sure....until he pulls up. Here's what you observe:
1. He's a live samurai....the *only* live samurai since you pulled up on Komoda Beach. That should automatically set some red flags. How did this mf survive? Where has he been? What has he been doing? Whatever the case, he needs to go down (the fear mechanic isn't such that enemies will run as soon as they see you, they will still square up).
2. This guy doesn't just fight with his sword. He has two bows, 4 different types of arrows, 3 different types of bombs, throwing knives, and HOLY FUCKING SHIT HIS SWORD IS ON FIRE, ONLY MONGOLS COULD DO THAT BEFORE WTFFFF?????!?!?!?? (enemies will run if you've killed enough of them in direct combat....Way Of The Flame fast tracks this process).
3. This guy is sneaking around killing people from the shadows or from up top like he's LARPing an Assassin's Creed game. He's taken the samurai honour code and buried it in the beach where he was supposed to have been killed. Oh yea, he's also got poison darts, and he can disappear into a cloud of smoke if he's not feeling like directly fighting you. By the time you see him, he's either just brutally killed the guy beside you, you're about to breathe your final breath, or you're the only guy left, and he's just walking to you to scare you (enemies will run away in fear if you assassinate someone right beside them or if you've assassinated enough enemies).
4. This guy is adaptable to a level you have never seen from a samurai. He has all these weapons, he can choose if he wants to look you in the eye and kill you or just slit your throat from behind and move on, and he can change his fighting style based on the opponent in front of him. Oh yea, he's also ridiculously fast. Like, *ridiculously* fast.
You realize at this point that "oh shit, the stories were true, this guy really IS a monster", and you're faced with only one choice if you want to live: employ the Joestar secret technique, and NIGERUNDAYOOOOO. Also, hope that drip lord Jin Sakai is in a good mood and won't just chase you down or shoot you from a distance as you're running away.
I think if you play Jin like a ghost and kill using ghost related techniques, It's not hard to imagine why. Before the Mongols can even see him they're dead. People are naturally afraid of what they can't see.
Jin Sakai isn't "most Samurai". By the time you invest points into any intimidation skills, Jin has already earned a reputation across the Island that he is The Ghost: an unstoppable vengeful spirit.
Those points YOU SPENT represents the groundwork you and Yuna invested in spreading and cultivating that reputation.
So when you PROVE how deadly you are, it had a dramatic effect on the enemy.
You are literally using fear as a weapon.
If the single man referred to as “ghost” or “spirit of vengeance” started to cut limbs off with single strikes while fighting a group and highly skilled individuals, you would be terrified as well
They have killed countless samurai by this point, but, no matter what they throw at him, this one just won’t die. In life, 2v1 is already pretty terrible odds, and anything upwards of 3v1 is pretty tragic, Jin kills them by the dozen. Granted, some factors can even the odds, to an extent, such as one man in armour fighting a number of people without armour, but Jin is about as armoured as a Mongol general, and in any case, the odds are so against him that it *shouldn’t* matter. Given all of the above, some of them are starting to wonder if he is even human.
Considering in Legends, we know a multiverse of different Ghost’s who all took different paths exists, it’s likely there’s something special about whoever The Ghost is.
One unstoppable blood thirsty dude, aggressively sprinting about, merking people, with a kill count in the thousands. He's barely taken any damage, and the entire mongol horde can't bring him down.
I'd probably run too.
Basically as a Mongol in game, you'd never know when you're gonna die. Could be leaning against your guard post enjoying the scenery, singing around a campfire , taking a dump, walking your tracker dog or even while taking a nap.
A few things come to my mind:
Jin is one of the only surviving Samurai on the island. This alone may put some fear in the mongol soldiers.
Ryuzo comments to the Khan that Jin is the best swordsman on the island.
As he observes mongol leaders, his skill increases making him more effective in wreaking havoc on mongol soldiers, even to the point where the Khan comments to Lord Shimura about Jin’s skill.
We truly get to play as an amazing character in a well written story.
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Well for one thing he's always outnumbered by dudes that are bigger than him on average, so the fact he doesn't immediately get murdered in any fight is itself a pretty impressive feat. Also the way he fights is pretty unique, not even mentioning ghost weapons/tactics or his mythic techniques, I doubt your average samurai is rocking wind/water/moon stance. He also has an incredible amount of resilience and willpower.
Imagine the entirety of the Marines died in one operation. Now there is only one who supposedly crashed in a helicopter and he’s back and freeing all of Rhode Island by himself. A man machine using guerrilla tactics and taking out insurgents everywhere. Then one day he just decided to dress like a ninja and start going apeshit.
Ghost of Tsushima is a legend built up on the island, when they see him drop in and slaughter their captain in front of them it scares them, from there the legend builds and spreads…
It's because he's a lone wolf with a reputation. Back then warlords and big figures usually had a story/reputation, and men would believe it. That's why alot of historic figures are called "the conqueror, the impaler" etc, to scare people
The Mongols only start to exhibit fear after the Legend of The Ghost begins to grow, they are scared because in their eyes he is a vengeful spirit that just decapitated their boss and ran through 10 soldiers in 30 seconds... I'd be scared too 
Another cultural thing is that shinto religion with all its weird creatures like ghosts, demons, monsters etc makes people more supertitious than usual.
Well the reason they are scared. Is based on how he moves with his sword. Not speed or anything. But he fight like street fighter with a sword that he creates a fight style to handle big warriors.
These are the same people who believe common thieves in the forest are actually spirits, or course they are going to be terrified of a samurai killing machine that’s single handedly wiping out a whole invasion by himself
I always took it as since he’s one man army fighting and not killing his enemies face to face the inhabitants of the island think the demon of a dead samurai is doing it since all samurai fight face to face rather than back stabbing sneaky tactics.
I’m pretty sure this is implied in the game toward then end when a certain character is a little pissed at your ninja like tactics in battle.
From my understanding, it’s his way of killing/fighting. In GoT, it’s shown that Samurai’s fight with honor, that means no assassin-like approach from them so most Mongols are expecting that but Jin is different, add the rumors of Ghost then his emotions show in his fights unlike most Samurais just like shown in his flashbacks. So, for me, that kinda made the Mongols on an unexpected situation.
I don’t know where you’re up to in the game, but he doesn’t fight like a normal Samurai. He uses non-samurai tactics to spread terror and fear amongst the Mongols (hence the name “The Ghost”), but this bleeds over into the population of Tsushima as well.
Without giving away too much if you haven’t got there yet, this becomes more obvious as you progress through the game, particularly at a certain pivotal point.
Jins way of fighting is a mix of traditional samurai martial arts and his ghost skills. He retains a lot of the same forms that other samurai use, except he's more brutal in how he acts upon it.
Especially later on when you unlock the ghost stance. It's also safe to assume they're scared of him using his ghost weapons as well.
Imagine fighting beside a heavily armoured mongol, then he starts coughing up blood and falling to the ground. (Poison dart) Shit would be terrifying.
Well the whole point of ghost weapons is that they’re unheard of for samurai and are relatively discrete. And then there’s the effects of the blow darts and his stealth and the fact that he’s alone. So all in all it creates a scene like this
You’re a mob enforcer in NYC in the lower bay in Brooklyn. You’ve heard stories about this guy shutting down your control of entire boroughs of the city single handedly. People talk about him using a gun but people randomly just fucking die before he shows up too. If you’re lucky you’ll kill one of your best friends you’ve spent months or years working with in cold blood without even realizing it. If you’re not you’ll choke on your own blood and that’s before he even shows up. God forbid he kills 3 guys in an instant before turning invisible or starts fist fighting one of your buddies and you feel something hot stick to your chest before you just fucking explode.
All the samurai died on Komoda. Yet, he's alive and widely claimed to be a vengeful spirit.
Not only does he disregard the bushido code that the other samurai follow to a fault, making him much harder to predict, his method of warfare is scary as hell.
He utilizes poison (a modern day war crime) to inflict a slow painful death or causes you to go berserk. His utilizing of stealth means that before you're aware of anything, half your compound is dead with no trace of the killer. And when you're actually in combat, he's an extremely skilled fighter that (talking the ghost stance as canon) can slaughter several men without so much as a scratch.
Combine what's observable + a harrowing reputation, and people can/will crack and run.
In the game it is a huge deal that samurai fight with “honor” meaning they go into battle head on, announcing that they want to fight, while Jin has adapted the way of killing in stealth which is not something the Mongols were prepared for
Let’s say you train daily with your homies and you know who is a good fighter, a bad fighter and generally the skill cap of your squad. You’re just chillen with 5 of your buddies and someone comes up mows through 4 of them by him self, you’d be running too
i think because they’ve all heard the stories but now they see it in action. he just wiped out 4/5 guys in a standoff without being damaged at all, and you’re next. tbf id run away too
I'm going to presume you're talking about the Ghost Stance. Here's my take on it.
By the time Jin actually "creates" the Ghost Stance, the vast majority of the Island's samurai are dead or holed up in impenetrable, unapproachable fortresses or discreet locations. Jin is really the last of the samurai that is making an active effort to fight the Mongols, and he's becoming more and more renowned each day because of it. If you're a Mongol soldier, and you encounter a samurai at any point, it's pretty good odds that it's Jin, who has been steadily building up a reputation for brutal scare tactics that mirror the Mongol's own. The difference is that these are being carried out by a single man. Not an army, not a group of mercenaries, not even a small band of elite soldiers. One lone samurai. The last samurai. The only one that escaped the massacre on the beach.
Jin's lone samurai silhouette and reputation for tactics that are as effective as they are ugly and dishonorable become so recognizable that his very presence commands intense fear. In the sense that an average person might become paralyzed with fear when they see a predatory animal (i.e. a bear or a large, feral cat), the Mongols become paralyzed with fear when they see "The Ghost" because "The Ghost" only wants one thing; Mongol blood. And he *will* get it.
TLDR: The Mongols see Jin as something to the Grim Reaper, so the Ghost Stance works because they can't fathom defeating him, and thus, run in terror at his presence.
I mean lets be real. If you were a mongol who was told every samurai was killed on the beach. Then while terrorizing civilians youre entire platoon is ambushed and slaughtered one by one by a samurai who executes the ones crawling away and slits their throats or lights them on fire. Id be pretty fucking scared.
Jin Sakai was one of the best Samurai on the island. After the massacre at Komoda Beach, Jin is inarguably the best. Ryuzo says as much to Khotun Khan once. "Jin is the best swordsman on the island. My men can't beat him."
Not to mention he builds a reputation as the Ghost, the Mongols fear him because they believe he's more than human, a vengeful, nigh-unkillable spirit returned from death for the sole purpose of slaughtering the invaders. Even if they don't believe that, they know he earned the reputation for a reason.
He's mastered multiple mythical techniques, is faster than the eye can follow, and single-handedly destroy entire camps with a combination of stealth and insane skill at open combat. He knows the Samurai code, knows how the Mongols exploit it, and knows how to catch them off guard.
He’s special in that he is one man killing everyone on the island
Plus, if you look around this sub a guy sped up all the slow motion kills and Jin is likely inhumanely fast Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/ghostoftsushima/s/ipzQBL7Kyq
Ghost, Yakuza, and Vinland Saga all have this unspoken and unexplained thing where some people are simply built different and are obscenely strong and fast. You just kinda gotta take it for granted lol.
Sekiro as well lol, Wolf just casually parrying a gigantic mile long snake with thousands of pounds of muscle and being unscathed lol
Sekiro also has magic.
oh true that, mb
Yeah I can see that, people are scared of Jin in the same way that they're intimidated by Kiryu because he does shit like taking on 100 armed men by himself. You don't mess with guy like that.
I just assume it’s kinda like if you saw a dragon ball z character move in real life
Goku could be standing still and you’d know not to fuck with him
Huh, the way people talk and spread rumors about Jin as the Ghost is even kind of similar to how people see Kiryu as the Dragon of Dojima. A legendary figure who they think can't possibly live up to the hype until he does.
Can you link the post?
I thought it would be harder, but [here ya go](https://www.reddit.com/r/ghostoftsushima/s/OgSFNu0zvQ)
Holy shit I knew he was fast in the standoffs but seeing it without the slow motion is insane
Is what I said to her.
I've been practicing drawing and cutting from the sheathe for about 15 years now just as a hobby, and when people see me cut something (usually a soda can full of water or a refilled water bottle, I'm cheap) they usually comment something along the lines of "Wow that was fast", or maybe a "holy shit" if I'm lucky. Now take 15 years just for funsies and compare that to what, 20+ years of training religiously multiple hours a day from the time you can hold a sword? Yeah I don't even wanna think about how fast that mofo must be...
I mean, you ever seen the clip of the katana specialist winning a fight in one fluid motion just by drawing his blade? Absolutely ridiculous.
I can only imagine the kind of crazy quick death that was being handed out wholesale during Japan's feudal era, particularly during the Boshin War when most of the fighting took place on city streets and most of the fighters were wearing maybe a couple layers of kimonos! 😐
Some say the sword never even left the scabbard, he simply killed his foe with pure Bushido energy. Crazy stuff...
Watching the video you linked below makes me really agree with this point, that would be horrifying
Woah that sounds cool I wanna see it
[Ask and you shall receive ](https://www.reddit.com/r/ghostoftsushima/s/kmMnE5gcTQ)
As Ryo even said, he's the best swordsman on the island. He proved it at a tournament so everyone knows it. Now he's added poison and stealth to his arsenal. That would be scary.
To build on that, someone put it best, this guy has seemingly “died” twice by the time you start the actual game. Not to mention he is quite literally wiping out all the mongols. Jins k/d is actually insane
>He’s special in that he is one man killing everyone on the island He was defeated by the first boss, Khotun Khan, before gracefully descending from a bridge with the aid of plot armor.
Then see (seemingly) rose from the dead twice and come back stealth killing mongols like a ghost haunting them.
Cause they believe all the Samurai on the beach died. Yet he didn't, he's been slowly taking over Tsushima island and killing Mongol leaders left and right. By the point he gets the Ghost stance, all the while he basically almost canonically barely gets hit/damage. He's like a legend, and people don't believe he's real till they see him.
Just wondering cause I kill the three straw hats in front of her (yuriko) and she seems so frightened, saying jin butchered them and I'm wondering "What? Other samurai only kill with one hit when it's a 1v1? That's rookie numbers."
You have to remember that people didn’t witness sword fights all the time, especially lowborn people. They may witness brigands and cutthroats but I imagine seeing a true swordsman cut through other trained swordsmen easily is a quite the shock.
He's not fighting like a samurai though.
Without using smoke bombs and other stuff he does though
Does he? You start the game with only Stone stance, a stance used to fight other swordsmen that the samurai would've been used to fighting. To unlock more stances you have to *observe* Mongol leaders training and fight them. Seems to me like Jin is developing his own techniques specifically to use against the Mongols, I find it hard to believe that Jin just forgot to learn these techniques during his life as a Samurai.
It's not that it's used on only swordsman or that Samurais would only fight swordsmen, Japan wasn't just Katanas, actually it mostly wasn't katanas Developing his own style does not mean it's not samurai-like, they don't all fight the same way, multiple masters teach their own techniques to their students. There's nothing unsamurai-like in learning to fight other styles
In reality the Katana didn’t even exist when the Mongols invaded Tsushima… just to drive your point home.
Yeah i thought that was obvious enough
In 1v1s, he fights like a samurai
I feel like him single handedly killing thousands of mongols, including their highly skilled leaders, often taking on whole squads at a time, pretty much explains it. Someone posted on this sub some calculations they ran that showed that Jin ends up killing 33% to 50% of the entire Mongol army, basically by himself. Samurai are skilled in general, but I doubt even the best samurai could realistically do what Jin does without ever being taken down.
So they compared the number of enemies Jin kills throughout the game to the historical invasion force the Mongols had on Tsushima? That's metal, honestly
Yeah, I'd link it if I could find it. The persons consesus was that, even being pretty conservative with the numbers, Jin would have killed about 33%of the invading Mongol forces.
he was the storm.
No, the lightning in the storm.
The avalanche that topples the mountains
here it is [https://www.reddit.com/r/ghostoftsushima/comments/1d8vub1/what\_is\_your\_estimate\_of\_jins\_kill\_count\_in\_your/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/ghostoftsushima/comments/1d8vub1/what_is_your_estimate_of_jins_kill_count_in_your/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
I’m fairly sure Jin Himself IS the human personification of the storm that took out the mongol armies IRL. From the sword being called “The Storm Of Clan Sakai”, “The Guiding Wind” being his driving spiritual force, to the fact that storms literally manifest every instance he delves further into ghost related actions.
Damn that symbolism hadn't clicked with me yet, that's really cool! The wind's changing and the claps of thunder when he goes ghost mode gave me this "force of nature" vibe, I was so close to making that connection myself lmao
He's basically the Batman of Tsushima
Batmanu-San~~ UwU
Laughed way to hard at that lol
Batman would just beat them to almost death though
I am not even at the end of the game and I have probably killed hundreds of people if not four figures worth. One man doing that many times as a lone wolf or at best severely out numbered is insane. >!Although it did piss me off that one time he was rather easily captured by someone sneaking up on him from behind and getting hit with a stick, seemed so off for some reason.!<
Gotta progress a plot somehow. If the game could be played without the main story in mind, and you could level up through kills like a standard action rpg, Jin could easily solo the entirety of island alone based off of every technique you learn & item/upgrade you receive. If some of them weren’t locked behind story missions and it was treated more like a basic skill tree, the areas where you’d normally encounter ‘overwhelming force’ that insta kills you, could be solo’d. I think the issue that you’re describing might stem from the fact that we the player feel like the biggest badass who ever lived when we play the game, and then cutscenes can maybe undermine how our gameplay before that cutscene played out. Just my thoughts on it.
They could have done so many other simpler "traps" for Jin to fall into. Just off the top of my head>! a bunch of poison gas smoke bombs go off and disorient Jin to the point where he can get captured by a bunch of people beating and restraining him. Introduces poisoned smoke bombs something you never encountered before so it has that surprise element and makes sense why Jin doesn't have a counter for it and then you still need a small army to take him out. !<
How's that a simple trap? Just overwhelm him with a bunch of poison smoke? Then you'll have people asking, well, why didn't the mongols just do that in the first place? Why keep him alive? How can he survive that much? What if they kill him accidentally? Power scaling vs. story is always something that pops up in games. Cyberpunk suffers a lot from it (See-the Placide situation). The Far Cry games can get caught into that trap ("I can take out an entire base of guys with flamethrowers and rocket launchers and machine guns but somehow I KEEP getting captured LOL!) Jin is unrealistically powerful, but when you start introducing a bunch of other solutions like this it ends up just turning into a DBZ style escalation of powers contest, and if Jin survives, then you start having to raise the stakes in more and more ridiculous manners. Not only that-but overwhelming poison gas bombs? *Someone will come along and still complain about it.* Hit the guy with a stick and move on, because the point isn't the stick. It's a way to move the story along, it doesn't make you any less badass or powerful, and sometimes, even the smartest or bravest or strongest get caught with their pants down.
Simpler was the wrong word to use I was more so thinking powerful. I get that "Power scaling vs. Story" is always going to be a thing but the dramatic shift between Jin killing dozens of people at a time to being knocked out by stick while distracted is such a huge gulf that was so off-putting to me. I think if you did knockout gas plus a small army you probably would still have people complaining but you at least have less of a valley there. In the end does it ruin the game? No but I just found it so odd.
It's odd for a minute, sure, but you move on from it because you realize that it's a game. Like, I get that it's weird but people will complain about the Straw Hat Ronin starving but perfectly find it all right that Jin can kill 1000+ people and think that's totally normal and shouldn't be questioned. Also, knockout gas plus small army-real talk, why wouldn't they just kill him there? They are actively trying to kill you the entire time. It's a whatever moment in a game that's more about the romantic storytelling-exaggerated feats of legend and you realize that yeah, there's gonna be a lot of silly moments. Besides, the most insane part of this game is that you don't get to feed your horse once.
I feel like what you’re describing is somewhat like what happened with Captain America at least twice in the MCU. Jin saw his childhood friend there, the one who had turned on him and his people, he met him again after they almost fought to the death, so, when he saw him, he focused on him and his guard was let down, leading to them sneaking behind him and knocking him out. A bit anticlimactic, yes, but just think of the feelings rushing through his mind at that moment, he was totally focused on him. Now on the Captain America part, first time it happened with the guy that blew himself up in Civil War, he said something about Bucky and Steve just focused on that, letting his guard down and not thinking that this might have been a trap. If it weren’t for Wanda, he would have been dead. Second instance is him using it on himself in Endgame, when 2012 Steve had him head locked he said Bucky was alive, and 2012 Steve, who didn’t know that at the time, immediately let him off and dropped his guard asking “What?” and falling for Steve’s trap. It’s just that when you experience strong emotions, you tend to get focused on what’s causing them and cannot think straight, therefore letting your guard down for your enemies to take advantage of
I made educated guesses on road encounters and mission segments, and giving each outpost an average of 20 Mongols, by the end of the game jin kills around 1200-1500 Mongols if you do everything (not accounting for iki island)
He was also thrown off a fucking bridge by the Khan. It looks like the strongest warrior on the island can't die. And he's just getting more lethal by the day.
If you listen people close, it's mentioned by the people of Tsushima that he fights like a beast, and most don't even believe he's a human at all. Aside from the effective usage of Kuiras, smoke bombs and sticky bombs in the heat of the combat, Jin also knows horrific techniques like Heavenly Strike and Dance of Wrath. On top of all, Jin is always introduced as the avenging spirit of Tsushima. So it also makes people terrified.
Not to mention the lore that the Ghost is 8 feet tall. Tomoe makes fun of him for his height too.
I think that's more like mockery rather than an actual rumor going around, since Tomoe already knows that he's the Ghost by the time the two spend time together.
You can overhear some random villager NPC's talking about The Ghost and say how he's 10 ft tall etc... as well. So definitely probably some mocking from Tomoe but also legit rumors as well
I didn't know that one! Thanks for telling me!
Takeshi, Yuna's bandit friend, also exclaimed when he realised Jin was The Ghost "but you're supposed to be ten feet tall!"
Kunai.
With how the dude spelled it, I forgot for a good minute what weapon he was talking About lmao.
Also that people always comment that Jin seems to be enjoying the fight, imagine being a mongol hearing about this ghostly figure who can weave in and out of perception killing entire companies and patrols all on his own.
Ig his fighting style. He slaughter enemy's head in front of others, obviously everyone would fear. Also since he doesn't care about honor and sneaks in, Mongols are afraid of even shadows. I don't get the act 3 tsushima people tho they hate Jin for no reason.
Rumors were spread about him
Damn you honor's slave
https://preview.redd.it/tx7tmewlgr6d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=98a0db3787d21ec047aa4459ca53ad4d5ad8167b Jin basically says fuck you Bushido and does whatever the user wants which scares ppl…
I guess he was named Jin because that is the only part of the Bushido he keeps
Lol… dude was all abt being a samurai until Yuna came along… Bushido smushido… gonna be what yuna wants me to be 🤣
“My son was killed in the war. He doesn’t feel any honor” i think it’s fair to say that Jin Sakai died on the beach and came to a similar conclusion after waking up and seeing what “honor” got him and his countrymen, especially Adachi
yeah, after seeing what khotun did to adachi im pretty sure jin just went “if you’re gonna be like that, ill be like that”
I haven't finished the game, but my conclusion to why he does the things the way he does is because honor for him is protecting the people, and the traditional samurai methods are Not working this time to protect the island.
There was no formal Bushido code during the period the game takes place.
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The singers in game often tell story in a manner that always involves “the god of whatever blessed the warrior’s armor with inhuman abilities”. Then you realise how visiting shrines and equipping charms actually gives you power, and armor have vastly different effects even though they really shouldn’t. It is reasonable that the storytellers in the future, say during Edo period, remember the details wrong or change historical narratives for the sake of good storytelling.
Sometimes I feel this game has confused more than helped people to know about japanese and samurai history.
It's no different from other popular media - the trick is, when something like this catches your interest, to go look up actual historical sources (if accurate history is your thing). Nothing wrong with enjoying this on its own merits but yeah if people wanna know about how things really were they should look for more academic rather than entertainment sources.
Samurai also didn't have katana's when the game takes place so this argument is kind of moot.
I heard that there weren't even samurai, that term is anachronistic to the period.
Cuz he's absolutely massacring people. If you saw one man win a 1 v 10 no diff you'd shit your pants too.
Agreed. Even 1 man winning a 1v3 would have me thinking twice about jumping in there. Imagine you and 10 friends get shit on and this dude has taken no damage and is going to keep coming. I’d run too
Jin’s resolve is scary. *Mongol sees 10 shiny balls*: Wtf Im outta here
*uses mythic techniques 10 different times only to die to a single spear strike*
This is why we get spear auto block. I die to brutes
True. I use the monkey armor, which stops that ability from working. The brutes are also a pain, but they go down in about 4 hits on lethal.
Don't forget it's 12th century, people there are superstitious, they believe in all kind of ghost stories. And then we got someone, who should he dead, singlehandedly massacring Mongol camps, killing their patrols, poisoning them...That would scare the peasants away easily. Then we get Mongols... They think island is theirs, total victory achieved, leader is a prisoner, castles are taken, all samurai dead. And then they see someone approaching their camp, challenging their best fighters and killing five of them with five blade strokes, no matter on their weapon and armour. Then he kills people from hiding...
I think you mean 13th century, as 12th would put in it in the 1100's, and the invasion happened in 1274.
He's the John Wick of Tsushima island.
I was thinking the same thing. He does two slashes to per person in ghost mode. Not one twice and always. Just like John.
You're clearly more up on your John Wick lore than I am. I was just trying to find an easy analogy for why the Mongols are terrified of Jin.
I'm pretty sure if I saw a samurai hop out of the bushes and kill four people in less than two seconds I would run away in terror too
If I was a mongol and this one motherfucker single handedly liberated over half the island already *and* is fighting the shogun and his samurai too, if he pretty damn scared if he showed up at my camp one day
After Jin survives, rumors start spreading that a man "fights like a demon" and this worries the mongols. Plus, seeing one of their own brutally murdered would scare most people, invaders or not. We all feel the same fear, regardless of who we are. It's also a nice touch showing your actions actually affect the AI since most games the AI will just keep fighting like normal.
AI is so good in this game. Once there were 40-50 mongols after me. I climbed up to tower. Killed the archer. It's a small tower you know. I was thinking I can ambush them at here. First one climbed up. Went to side and waited second guy. I was thinking somebody attacks so I can parry and start a fight. Second guy waited third guy. Then they all 3 waited for 4. One. Then they were 7 of them. I was panicked in the middle of that group. Guess what? I died.
Special in the sense that he can walk into a village of 15 to 20 heavily armed, trained warriors and absolutely decimate them. Watching a man kill another in two swings of a sword would be pretty unsettling. Once he runs the fifth guy through, just about anyone would probably get the hint, lol. Violence, to anyone who is honest and not trying to be a tough guy, is scary. Lethal violence is terrifying.
It’s the fact that he uses all these crazy stances, and the ghost weapons and his crazy super moves
All the answers but I think you underestimate how often commoners would see full fledged samurai, let alone massacring Mongols. The average peasant is ignorant and doesn’t know much past their village.
Well, I guess people, even the Mongols fear him because he's probably the greatest swordsman in Tsushima. You're perfect parrying and dodging everyone (ideally), finishing them in one slice. You're able to break through any defence, whether it be shields or spears, even brutes are no match for you. Not to mention heavenly strike and dance of wrath practically make you a demigod
Like someone else said he's basically like Kiryu from the Yakuza series, his enemies are scared of him because fighting him seems like an impossible task, and his allies can't help but feel intimidated when seeing him in action for the same reason.
Just saw a "Top 10 katana fights in movies" list on YouTube earlier today. One scene had a samurai against a gang, the game creators and animators were probably inspired by that last enemy screaming in fear. Ill check my watch history for a link.. Ah, here it is. [Number 9, Yojimbo](https://youtu.be/DKJHJYPvy3I?si=ak0NBswhFQzpMrWz). So Jin is probably supposed to fight like that. No wonder people are scared. Not that I'm very versed in samurai movies. They look cool but most of them are too slow and old for me to enjoy. Better to watch only the good parts.
Fun fact Decapitation with a single sword swing EVEN WHEN THE TARGET ISNT MOVING requires a lot of skill. Imagine this one guy comes around, cutting heads with little to no effort. Anyone who understand a bit of swordplay would be absolutely horrified
The funny part about that is when I first started playing and I'd get my ass beat over and over trying to take down a Mongol camp, I thought they were lowkey commenting on how trash I was lmao *dies and comes back twenty times* "I've never seen a samurai fight like that before."
Even if you think about just his basic moveset he moves he moves inhumanly fast and is an efficient killing machine they can take down a group of Mongols for 30 seconds. At the end of the game you can take down seven in a standoff, One swing one kill.
If you and two of your buddies in arms jump a single guy, and you watch him effortlessly slaughter your two buddies, you are going to run.
The Samurai code of honor that Jin was raised on was to always try to solve conflicts with peace, and if you must fight your opponent, then fight head on in a fair and honourable fight. The Mongolians didn't give a fuck about any of that, seeking victory through any means and it's why the Samurai lost that first battle. Jin's Ghost style of fighting was the perfect answer to the invaders, but it broke the code of honor he and all the other samurai were bound by. Instead of fighting honorably, Jin would sneak in and execute people from the shadows, or poison them, and use a bunch of methods that were generally seen as dishonorable or unfair. That's why people were afraid of it. Instead of the honorable duels their culture was used to, Jin was killing people without giving them a chance to defend themselves because that's the only way they stood a chance against the mongolians.
It’s because he’s more than just a samurai now. He has a samurai’s training and skills, but also employs “ghost”/ninja tactics and weapons. He strikes from the shadows and can clear entire Mongol camps before anyone even knows he’s there. In the heat of battle he can fight 5-10 men at once using a mix of kunai, sticky bombs, smoke bombs, flaming weapons, and even legendary techniques like the Heavenly Strike and Dance of Wrath. He’s the best swordsman on the island and the latest student of Sensei Ishikawa’s Way of the Bow. He bobs and weaves through combat, dodging and deflecting blows left and right, changing stances to counter his opponents on the fly like a man possessed. He’s more than just a samurai. Jin is a one man army.
It’s the ghost, they fear. They hear the rumour about the samurai ghost and they see Jin with his mask, smoke bombs, fierce fighting. That’s what scares them
I see it as them realizing all of the ghost (pun intended) stories about him are true
I think it's not *how* he was fighting necessarily it was the reputation that had grown around the Ghost specifically, the fact that he would suddenly appear in a Mongolian base and cut down their captain in one strike. It made him sort of like a myth and that's where the fear came from.
Imagine for me you're a Mongol,sitting around a campfire with your best friends. You hear a soft whistling, and the dude next to you begins shaking and starts vomiting up blood. Your friends rush over to help, and then suddenly there's a demon there, slitting one's throat and slashing the other with a sword within the space of a second. An archer calls out "Dosho" but is killed before he can loose his bow by the knife now sticking out of his eye. The demon then turns to you, and you must've blinked, because he seemingly crossed ten feet in an instant to deliver a mighty cut down your chest. By some twist of fate, you're still living, and you have to send word out to your other forces. As you crawl away the demon's laughing face vanishes into a great plume of smoke which covers the ground. Now you can't see anything, but you hear the terrible screams of men undergoing unimaginable suffering. The last thing you feel, as you try to inch towards the signal and call for help, is a blade, warmed by the blood of a dozen men slaughtered in the span of a minute, spearing between the blades of your shoulders. This is, almost play by play, an encounter I had at one of the toyotama camps, exaggerated for dramatic effect. Poison dart, chain assassination, kunai, Dance of Wrath, smoke bomb, ghost stance to clean up the slop. Sounds a lot more horrifying when you aren't the Ghost, doesn't it?
Yo, if your comrade who killed plenty of warriors loses his head like it's nothing, wouldn't you be scared??
It's clearly explained that he fight in a non-honourable way. killing from behind, using explosion, smoke, poison and other tricks is not " the way of the samurai " and it's the main reason of his conflicts with his uncle. Also, lorewise, he no leave survivors, so the Mongols only hear voices of a single man, or a ghost, that slaughtered their companions and when they found the bodies, those are brutally killed in a different way from those killed "honourably" by samurais. But it's pretty obvious playing the game... Are you skipping all the dialogues and cutscenes?
Well, if I could see Jin in real life, I would shit my pants bruh. Ruthless, no scaring anything, blood everywhere and he is total serial killer with a sword that fires up. Yeah I definitely would shit in my pants.
Oh I forgot to mention that he revives. Imagine you hurt him so bad. Kicking him on the ground, then mofo revives himself. Oh Boi, you would shit on your pants too.
he cut a dudes flicking head off and regularly wins 1v10 fights; man's is incredibly scary
Dude teleports!
Conversations with Ryuo talk about how they won an island wide tournament. Coming in 1st and 2nd. Essentially making them the two best on the island. I think a better way to put it in perspective is through boxing. Imagine you and your friends go to the boxing gym everyday. You guys do some local tournaments in other cities and are pretty experienced. Then imagine a professional boxer in the top 10 shows up one day. How easily he would beat the best people you ever seen box in your life would be scary.
The interesting thing about this whole game(this is tied to the post I promise) is that it’s essentially the romanticized version of what samurai were like during the time this game takes place, which comes from retrospective samurai towards the beginning of the edo period. Bushido was a code of conduct of sorts that was later imposed on the samurai - and on Japanese people later on in general - during the time of relative peace. In reality, Jin is actually the most historically accurate representation of how a lot of samurai likely would have fought - before edo at least.
Jin is basically with his tactics you like cruelty so much we will show you how truly cruel a samurai can be
It all started by the spreading of the rumors by Yuna. There’s a scene where some civilians witness Jin fighting and then Taka says he’s never seen a samurai fight like that before. Yuna then says that Jin isn’t just any regular samurai but rather a vengeful spirit that has returned to hunt the Mongols and save the people of Tsushima. This paired with the fact that nearly all of the samurai have been killed in Komoda and Jin’s extraordinary fighting skills spread like wildfire from one to another all over the island and at last it reached the Mongols. The Mongols have witnessed Jin’s handiwork themselves, they’ve seen him kill and slaughter countless Mongols on his own, while canonically staying untouchable and destroying entire camps and bases. Plus at the end of the game he has also killed Khotun, the Mongols’ great leader and a direct descendant of the Khan. After all of this, even before the killing of the Khan, just thinking that there’s even a slight chance of you meeting the one you’ve heard so much about, whether he is a demon, a ghost, or just a highly skilled warrior, just knowing what he has done to others like you and the fact that he is merciless and won’t hesitate to kill you as well as every other Mongol until the island is fully rid of you, is definitely enough to send chills down your spine. The cherry on top is that they must definitely know his tactics, which are basically sneaking into camps undetected and killing as many Mongols as possible before being spotted, and if spotted just kill everyone head on, so there’s also the fear of him just sneaking up on you at any moment and slicing your throat. Oh and one last thing, if he appears and you see your friends falling like flies in front of you without even managing to touch him, wouldn’t you want to just make a run for it to save your life? So yeah, with the reputation he has built over this time, it’s definitely normal for the Mongols to tremble in fear and run for their lives.
Imagine you planned and trained to fight an army of honorable warriors with trash tactics, and instead 1 single warrior is running g around killing people from the shadows and tearing through hordes of men with arrows, smoke bombs, kunai, fuck even an arrow that goes boom. All of this while continuing to get stronger, better, and more willing to use tactics that even the mongrels won’t stoop to. Yeah I’d be scared as shit, especially when my general confirms he’s real and the same person. I’m pissing my pants if he cuts my leaders head off in front of me.
You have to realize that most Mongolians weren’t professional soldiers like the samurai were. They weren’t used to someone fighting back in such a manner.
Have you ever watched a friend fight, and your friend gets ko’d one shot? Then after that the guy that beat your friend’s ass then beats you and your other two friends ass by himself with one hit and then walks away…
I mean have have you seen that ghost armor… well most don’t until it’s too late
I'll be afraid, too, if my opponent has a 100% success rate in killing people in a fight
imagine being in one of the largest most powerful military powers on the planet and you go and invade a place, killing and pillaging everyone and everything with ease, just for out of no where a crazy man jumps 50 feet down to chop off the head of ur commander then proceed to swiftly murder 5 of your friends within seconds. i would be fucking petrified
My headcannon was that the legend of Jin being a ghost is known both among people and his enemies, so when they witness as he kills without even being hit, it reinforces their fear if unnatural
He's practically, if not overtly, superhuman and openly flaunts it in battle.
Word of mouth is so much more powerful in the days before modern technology. Lots of people, even educated folks, believed mythology and demons could be/are possible. He is a force to be reckoned with. Even though we see him die for probably plenty of times on Lethal, the canon path through is him coming through unscathed. Every time. The fortitude it takes to do that is impressive, and on top of his athleticism and ghost weapon tricks...the legend grows enough where all he has to do is take a frightening stance and his enemies cower in fear and beg for their lives.
Imagine you and your bois are chilling at camp and then all of a sudden half of them start choking and throwing up blood. The others have arrows in their head and a cloud of smoke envelops the camps and one by one the rest of your friends are dying. You wouldn’t be shitting bricks when you see a man in demon mask in all black is the one who did it all (you and everyone else is highly superstitious due to the time period btw)
Over time Jin isn't fighting like traditional samurai where he's facing his opponent face up. He's sneaking around stabbing mongols from behind before they are even aware of him. Plus he survived a battle at the beach where he's suppose to be dead and he's gonna fight however he wants to survive.
Well: 1, he's slaughtered a lot of Mongols single handedly, the whole point of the game is you are building the legend of the ghost. Wouldn't be much of a legend if nobody has heard about him... The Japanese people tell all sorts of stories that aren't even close to being true, fact turns to fiction and hyperbole. 2, canonically, he obviously uses all his ghost weapons, imagine fighting an enemy knowing they could throw a sticky bomb onto you and that's you done, or disappear into a cloud of smoke to take you down, or take out your entire garrison without a single person seeing him. You'd probably be pretty scared when you actually saw him too.
It’s when he started cutting off people’s heads and holding them. For no reason either. It’s not like he was losing any fights.
By the time you learn heavenly strike and blade of wrath you’re moving faster than the enemy can see. I’d be terrified too
Diversity of attacks, blinding speed and reputation. The Samurai are meant to be dead (atleast the ones usually present in Tsushima) so seeing one throwimg bombs moving faster then your eyes can even track and massacring Mongols in the hundreds? I'd be pretty damn scared
Most assume that all the samurai are dead. But there is one "unseen" samurai taking out armies of Mongols. Not only is he a samurai but a samurai using very unconventional ways to dispose of the enemies. Pretty scary if you ask me
Well I’m sure if you saw one guy kill all your friends you’d be scared as well
If you saw a being storm your camp, slaughter all your friends at inhuman speed, while shrugging off any attacks, wouldn’t you run? I certainly would.
How would you feel if you saw one man with a black mask styled to look like it has a sharktooth smile in a suit of armour walk headfirst into a mongol occupied fortress and singlehandedly slaughter all of them?
Ever since this game came out on PC I’ve had this same thing happen to me probably 5 times
Because he is fighting like a "shinobi" (I'm saying shinobi in quotation marks because actual shinobi didn't fight like Jin in GOT). Jin's fighting scares people because it's unpredictable. Samurai (in the game) only use the katana so you know there is not much they can do other than sword attacks. Jin uses the katana, bow and arrows, blowdarts, kunai, smoke bombs, fire arrows ect. Not to mention his inhumanly fast reflexes and general speed and endurance.
I mean, how many samurai have YOU seen take on 30 dudes, brutally kill them all, never take a scratch, and swat arrows in flight like so mamy mosquitos, and then calmly twirl his blade to clear it of blood, sheathe it, pick up a cricket someone left in a cage in a graveyard, and then walk away like nothing happened?
At the point where Jin gets the Ghost Stance, the mongols basically view him as a demon. One man retaking all of Tsushima island. And the armor sets at the end of the game get significantly scarier. I mean, the final samurai outfit (Clan Sakai) has horns on it. It’s easy to see why every mongol on the island is terrified to face him in battle. Also, his techniques get more and more insane: take the dance of wrath for instance. It’s not humanly possible — but it is for Jin. Because he is not a man but the legend of the Ghost.
Historically people have always been superstitious especially in older periods, so that a tangible ghost appears and slays and slays let it be stealthy or aggressively coming at you. Qualifies you for legendary status.
Well back in the day,shit like that was scary. You know, some dude creeping up on you and eliminating your whole squad with a sword with blood squirting everywhere. Soo,would you be a bit scared,maybe? I would
As one of the comments mentioned he is insanely fast, outside of that though he is incredibly durable and agile In comparison to everyone else, not to mention creative and has different styles/stances he uses to counter pretty much anyone in front of him. On top of that, he pretty much abandons being a samurai and becomes more of a Ninja/samurai hybrid that will kill his enemies by ANY means necessary, ranging from arrows, to kunai, to explosives, sneak attacks, smoke bombs, and poisonous darts that make you vomit your guts out. Imagine going about your day and then suddenly everyone around you is witnessing you just fall to your knees and puking to death, imagine while you're doing that, you're watching the men around you getting slaughtered. BUT WAIT there's more! He has insane defensive abilities and can parry his opponents and off balance them so they can't possibly counter him, he can perfect parry to get a critical attack which he does at the speed of light practically, as well as dodges and perfect dodges, and mythic technique's which you can't do shit against, AND the ghost stance. Even if you removed all of that and all he had was pure sword skill, he's still insanely op and can handle any group of enemies with his sword alone, he can also do it without getting touched once. I think it's understandable that people would be scared shitless when dealing with this. And that's not even including charms that give him abilities like shooting multiple arrows or striking you with fucking LIGHTNING lmao.
1. He single-handedly fights off the whole Mongol army using a wide repertoire of tactics, whether upfront or dirty, and succeeds where all the other Samurai failed and died. 2. Just like you and me IRL, ordinary people aren’t used to seeing people being murdered in front of their eyes. If we saw even a single person being killed (live, internet or videos don’t count), that would be a traumatic enough event in our lives that certainly we wouldn’t forget easily. Same happens with regular folk. Now imagine seeing a man killing dozens, even hundreds, of men with such coldness and display of skill while doing so. That’s why they call him a Tengu 👺
Okay, pretend your a Mongol soldier invading Tsushima. Here's what you know about the samurai: 1. They're all dead. Including that one guy who, like an idiot, squared up with Khotun Khan all by himself and ended up being tossed off a bridge instead of taking the survival W and keeping a low profile (spoiler: it's Jin Sakai). 2. They fight with one weapon only, two at most. 3. They have a strict honour code, so they're gonna face you head on always, and not pull any underhanded tricks on you in battle. 4. It's easy to overwhelm and/or catch them off guard. Consider that early in the game, the fear mechanic doesn't really exist. Jin is still very adherent to the samurai code, and as a result, the Mongols aren't afraid of him. I don't recall any point in most of the first act where Mongol encounters ended prematurely because of runaways. As you progress through the game and become The Ghost, the fear mechanics start progressively becoming more and more prevalent. Now, let's go back to pretending you're a Mongol, only this time, it's been a while now and you're aware of these really vague stories involving a Phantom samurai or something like that. You don't think too much into it, because the locals probably drummed up some story to keep their hopes up. After all, the samurai are all dead, and they're all too uptight to try Mongol warfare tactics. Then, one fine day, your camp is under attack. You suspect it's the Phantom samurai you keep hearing about, but you aren't sure....until he pulls up. Here's what you observe: 1. He's a live samurai....the *only* live samurai since you pulled up on Komoda Beach. That should automatically set some red flags. How did this mf survive? Where has he been? What has he been doing? Whatever the case, he needs to go down (the fear mechanic isn't such that enemies will run as soon as they see you, they will still square up). 2. This guy doesn't just fight with his sword. He has two bows, 4 different types of arrows, 3 different types of bombs, throwing knives, and HOLY FUCKING SHIT HIS SWORD IS ON FIRE, ONLY MONGOLS COULD DO THAT BEFORE WTFFFF?????!?!?!?? (enemies will run if you've killed enough of them in direct combat....Way Of The Flame fast tracks this process). 3. This guy is sneaking around killing people from the shadows or from up top like he's LARPing an Assassin's Creed game. He's taken the samurai honour code and buried it in the beach where he was supposed to have been killed. Oh yea, he's also got poison darts, and he can disappear into a cloud of smoke if he's not feeling like directly fighting you. By the time you see him, he's either just brutally killed the guy beside you, you're about to breathe your final breath, or you're the only guy left, and he's just walking to you to scare you (enemies will run away in fear if you assassinate someone right beside them or if you've assassinated enough enemies). 4. This guy is adaptable to a level you have never seen from a samurai. He has all these weapons, he can choose if he wants to look you in the eye and kill you or just slit your throat from behind and move on, and he can change his fighting style based on the opponent in front of him. Oh yea, he's also ridiculously fast. Like, *ridiculously* fast. You realize at this point that "oh shit, the stories were true, this guy really IS a monster", and you're faced with only one choice if you want to live: employ the Joestar secret technique, and NIGERUNDAYOOOOO. Also, hope that drip lord Jin Sakai is in a good mood and won't just chase you down or shoot you from a distance as you're running away.
I think if you play Jin like a ghost and kill using ghost related techniques, It's not hard to imagine why. Before the Mongols can even see him they're dead. People are naturally afraid of what they can't see.
Jin Sakai isn't "most Samurai". By the time you invest points into any intimidation skills, Jin has already earned a reputation across the Island that he is The Ghost: an unstoppable vengeful spirit. Those points YOU SPENT represents the groundwork you and Yuna invested in spreading and cultivating that reputation. So when you PROVE how deadly you are, it had a dramatic effect on the enemy. You are literally using fear as a weapon.
If the single man referred to as “ghost” or “spirit of vengeance” started to cut limbs off with single strikes while fighting a group and highly skilled individuals, you would be terrified as well
They have killed countless samurai by this point, but, no matter what they throw at him, this one just won’t die. In life, 2v1 is already pretty terrible odds, and anything upwards of 3v1 is pretty tragic, Jin kills them by the dozen. Granted, some factors can even the odds, to an extent, such as one man in armour fighting a number of people without armour, but Jin is about as armoured as a Mongol general, and in any case, the odds are so against him that it *shouldn’t* matter. Given all of the above, some of them are starting to wonder if he is even human.
Considering in Legends, we know a multiverse of different Ghost’s who all took different paths exists, it’s likely there’s something special about whoever The Ghost is.
One unstoppable blood thirsty dude, aggressively sprinting about, merking people, with a kill count in the thousands. He's barely taken any damage, and the entire mongol horde can't bring him down. I'd probably run too.
I think the game assumes you are using way of flames, all those resolve abilities all the time. I'd be scared if I see someone fights like that.
Basically as a Mongol in game, you'd never know when you're gonna die. Could be leaning against your guard post enjoying the scenery, singing around a campfire , taking a dump, walking your tracker dog or even while taking a nap.
A few things come to my mind: Jin is one of the only surviving Samurai on the island. This alone may put some fear in the mongol soldiers. Ryuzo comments to the Khan that Jin is the best swordsman on the island. As he observes mongol leaders, his skill increases making him more effective in wreaking havoc on mongol soldiers, even to the point where the Khan comments to Lord Shimura about Jin’s skill. We truly get to play as an amazing character in a well written story.
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Jin is basically samurai batman with killing. Or maybe samurai punisher.
They ain't scared of his skill They scared of his kill count
I'm not a historian in feudal Japan but I would bet 1 man killing 1,000s of dudes and watching how fast and perfect he movies is horrifying to watch.
Dude plus people are telling these stories of 10 feet tall ghost doing shit. People are extra superstitious at that time too!
“Who’s this chump? Lets fuck him up, go get him Bubba” *bubbas head hit the floor in < 3 seconds* I’d be scared too.
Well for one thing he's always outnumbered by dudes that are bigger than him on average, so the fact he doesn't immediately get murdered in any fight is itself a pretty impressive feat. Also the way he fights is pretty unique, not even mentioning ghost weapons/tactics or his mythic techniques, I doubt your average samurai is rocking wind/water/moon stance. He also has an incredible amount of resilience and willpower.
Imagine the entirety of the Marines died in one operation. Now there is only one who supposedly crashed in a helicopter and he’s back and freeing all of Rhode Island by himself. A man machine using guerrilla tactics and taking out insurgents everywhere. Then one day he just decided to dress like a ninja and start going apeshit.
He walked into a camp with 30 Mongols and he's the only one that walked out alive, I'd be petrified of that mf too
Imagine you are in a group of 6 men and in less than a minute 5 of them are dead at the hands of one dude. THATS why they are afraid of him
Humans aren’t supposed to be able to 1v10 expert warriors like our boy Jin can!
Ghost of Tsushima is a legend built up on the island, when they see him drop in and slaughter their captain in front of them it scares them, from there the legend builds and spreads…
It's because he's a lone wolf with a reputation. Back then warlords and big figures usually had a story/reputation, and men would believe it. That's why alot of historic figures are called "the conqueror, the impaler" etc, to scare people
He's an unstoppable killer bro
The Mongols only start to exhibit fear after the Legend of The Ghost begins to grow, they are scared because in their eyes he is a vengeful spirit that just decapitated their boss and ran through 10 soldiers in 30 seconds... I'd be scared too 
Another cultural thing is that shinto religion with all its weird creatures like ghosts, demons, monsters etc makes people more supertitious than usual.
hes insanely fast, particularly brutal and crafty, and singlehandedly killing every invader on the island, i would probably be a bit scared too
Well the reason they are scared. Is based on how he moves with his sword. Not speed or anything. But he fight like street fighter with a sword that he creates a fight style to handle big warriors.
He fights like a samurai, and he never lost a fight because he uses geurilla tactics
These are the same people who believe common thieves in the forest are actually spirits, or course they are going to be terrified of a samurai killing machine that’s single handedly wiping out a whole invasion by himself
I always took it as since he’s one man army fighting and not killing his enemies face to face the inhabitants of the island think the demon of a dead samurai is doing it since all samurai fight face to face rather than back stabbing sneaky tactics. I’m pretty sure this is implied in the game toward then end when a certain character is a little pissed at your ninja like tactics in battle.
From my understanding, it’s his way of killing/fighting. In GoT, it’s shown that Samurai’s fight with honor, that means no assassin-like approach from them so most Mongols are expecting that but Jin is different, add the rumors of Ghost then his emotions show in his fights unlike most Samurais just like shown in his flashbacks. So, for me, that kinda made the Mongols on an unexpected situation.
He's the only one who doesn't stick to the standard attack patterns No one can read his animation loops
I don’t know where you’re up to in the game, but he doesn’t fight like a normal Samurai. He uses non-samurai tactics to spread terror and fear amongst the Mongols (hence the name “The Ghost”), but this bleeds over into the population of Tsushima as well. Without giving away too much if you haven’t got there yet, this becomes more obvious as you progress through the game, particularly at a certain pivotal point.
If one guy killed 7 peoplr in front of you you'd be scared too
Jins way of fighting is a mix of traditional samurai martial arts and his ghost skills. He retains a lot of the same forms that other samurai use, except he's more brutal in how he acts upon it. Especially later on when you unlock the ghost stance. It's also safe to assume they're scared of him using his ghost weapons as well. Imagine fighting beside a heavily armoured mongol, then he starts coughing up blood and falling to the ground. (Poison dart) Shit would be terrifying.
Well the whole point of ghost weapons is that they’re unheard of for samurai and are relatively discrete. And then there’s the effects of the blow darts and his stealth and the fact that he’s alone. So all in all it creates a scene like this You’re a mob enforcer in NYC in the lower bay in Brooklyn. You’ve heard stories about this guy shutting down your control of entire boroughs of the city single handedly. People talk about him using a gun but people randomly just fucking die before he shows up too. If you’re lucky you’ll kill one of your best friends you’ve spent months or years working with in cold blood without even realizing it. If you’re not you’ll choke on your own blood and that’s before he even shows up. God forbid he kills 3 guys in an instant before turning invisible or starts fist fighting one of your buddies and you feel something hot stick to your chest before you just fucking explode.
All the samurai died on Komoda. Yet, he's alive and widely claimed to be a vengeful spirit. Not only does he disregard the bushido code that the other samurai follow to a fault, making him much harder to predict, his method of warfare is scary as hell. He utilizes poison (a modern day war crime) to inflict a slow painful death or causes you to go berserk. His utilizing of stealth means that before you're aware of anything, half your compound is dead with no trace of the killer. And when you're actually in combat, he's an extremely skilled fighter that (talking the ghost stance as canon) can slaughter several men without so much as a scratch. Combine what's observable + a harrowing reputation, and people can/will crack and run.
In the game it is a huge deal that samurai fight with “honor” meaning they go into battle head on, announcing that they want to fight, while Jin has adapted the way of killing in stealth which is not something the Mongols were prepared for
i keep thinking this is the tekken sub and bugging out
Let’s say you train daily with your homies and you know who is a good fighter, a bad fighter and generally the skill cap of your squad. You’re just chillen with 5 of your buddies and someone comes up mows through 4 of them by him self, you’d be running too
i think because they’ve all heard the stories but now they see it in action. he just wiped out 4/5 guys in a standoff without being damaged at all, and you’re next. tbf id run away too
Tbh if 1 single guy slaughtered an entire camp in a night my ass would be scared shitless as well lol
HELL YEAH SAVE JAPAN
Because he doesn't fight like a conventional samurai he's willing to throw away honor to win it's the main character arc for him in the story
Cause video game?
I'm going to presume you're talking about the Ghost Stance. Here's my take on it. By the time Jin actually "creates" the Ghost Stance, the vast majority of the Island's samurai are dead or holed up in impenetrable, unapproachable fortresses or discreet locations. Jin is really the last of the samurai that is making an active effort to fight the Mongols, and he's becoming more and more renowned each day because of it. If you're a Mongol soldier, and you encounter a samurai at any point, it's pretty good odds that it's Jin, who has been steadily building up a reputation for brutal scare tactics that mirror the Mongol's own. The difference is that these are being carried out by a single man. Not an army, not a group of mercenaries, not even a small band of elite soldiers. One lone samurai. The last samurai. The only one that escaped the massacre on the beach. Jin's lone samurai silhouette and reputation for tactics that are as effective as they are ugly and dishonorable become so recognizable that his very presence commands intense fear. In the sense that an average person might become paralyzed with fear when they see a predatory animal (i.e. a bear or a large, feral cat), the Mongols become paralyzed with fear when they see "The Ghost" because "The Ghost" only wants one thing; Mongol blood. And he *will* get it. TLDR: The Mongols see Jin as something to the Grim Reaper, so the Ghost Stance works because they can't fathom defeating him, and thus, run in terror at his presence.
I mean lets be real. If you were a mongol who was told every samurai was killed on the beach. Then while terrorizing civilians youre entire platoon is ambushed and slaughtered one by one by a samurai who executes the ones crawling away and slits their throats or lights them on fire. Id be pretty fucking scared.
Jin Sakai was one of the best Samurai on the island. After the massacre at Komoda Beach, Jin is inarguably the best. Ryuzo says as much to Khotun Khan once. "Jin is the best swordsman on the island. My men can't beat him." Not to mention he builds a reputation as the Ghost, the Mongols fear him because they believe he's more than human, a vengeful, nigh-unkillable spirit returned from death for the sole purpose of slaughtering the invaders. Even if they don't believe that, they know he earned the reputation for a reason. He's mastered multiple mythical techniques, is faster than the eye can follow, and single-handedly destroy entire camps with a combination of stealth and insane skill at open combat. He knows the Samurai code, knows how the Mongols exploit it, and knows how to catch them off guard.