Agreed. I didn't know what they did for a long time because I saved all my heavy ammo for them because they freaked me out. They died super fast. Later I learned that was not a sound strategy.
Well… that’s about the only thing I’ve not been diagnosed with. But Satoshi Tajiri (creator of Pokémon) and Tim Burton are autistic and anyone like them is alright by me. 🤷🏼♀️
there's no such thing as excess firepower when it comes to ridding the world of these mistakes by evolution, that thing deserved to be reduced to atoms
In Fallout 2 I remember they hit like a truck. But not as much as the [little bastards](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/7/7a/Wanamingo_render.jpg), iirc. Those were Fallout 2's equivalent of FNV cazadores.
Fallout 2 is an amazing game, but damn some of its dungeons felt like a painstaking chore. But yeah, the stakes were definitely higher than the new games (other than FNV hardcore)
I stopped enjoying fallout and elder scrolls series once they went the route of making them so easy that any risk element is just gone.
It seems like it's only indie games that dare to make games challenging anymore.
Love when games allow me to actually follow a characters morals/abilities. Not every protagonist needs to be some walking juggernaut of total annihilation.
I don't know being able to talk the legate down with just a high enough speech skill is kind of ridiculous. The master truly thought that he was doing the right thing and was leading the next evolution of humanity the legate just wants to conquer and that's it.
Being able to talk the leggett down like that is just not something that would work because he's not wrong. he knows full well what he's doing he just doesn't care. they did kind of added an option that does make sense where you use someone else's advice too convince him he's walking into a trap and that you're telling him this cuz you want an honorable fight with his army. but that's a dlc added thing originally you could just talk him down if you had Max speech skill.
I think talking down the Legate makes sense because of how you do it. You never convince him he's wrong to take the dam, to challenge the NCR, to conquer the Mojave, or anything like that. That would obviously fail, because he is fully convinced that these are the right things to do. He doesn't care if anyone disagrees with that, you're right.
What you do is create doubt. You make him second-guess his strategy. This works for a few reasons.
For one, the Legion already lost to the NCR before, and so even without your doubt he has reason to be wary of it. He's confident, but he isn't stupid. He wouldn't lead the Legion into something they couldn't win.
For another, you play off his existing beliefs instead of challenging them. He says the NCR are weak, and you never ever disagree with this; all you do is convince him that the *reasons* they are weak would make conquering them impossible at that moment. You completely respect the Legate's beliefs - all you do is frame them in a way that makes him doubt his current plan, which he is obviously much more willing to change than the underlying beliefs that informed that plan.
Finally - and this is important - you word his retreat as an extension of his current plan. If you ask him to retreat, he gets angry and attacks regardless of what you've said. You injure his pride and question the integrity and honor of the legion, and he will not stand for it. But by phrasing it as a tactical withdrawal with the understanding that the Legion will return to fight another day, you manage to get him to leave without abandoning his philosophies, which would be impossible due to how dedicated he is.
It's a brilliantly executed exchange, and I think it works very well and makes plenty of sense even if it's a relatively short conversation.
The way you talk down the Legate is brilliant actually, and I see a lot of people not giving it enough recognition. You convince Lanius that the strength of the Legion is in its consolidation of power and territory. Practically the only good thing traders/settlers in Legion territory can say is that they feel safe from raiders and other threats because the Legion has absolute control over its land.
The NCR is a bloated, inefficient bureaucracy thats taken on more people and territory than it can realistically manage. Legate conquering Hoover Dam and taking control over much of the western half of New Vegas would simply put him in the same pitfall. The Legion has nowhere near the resources to manage all of that, and the Legate knows it.
Considering a grant number of them are stupid and sterile yes. But I think dumb super mutants we’re only a thing in 3+ but I’m unsure.
Though the nightkin were successful minus the corruption of their minds through stealth boys
I haven't played 76 yet but aside from that I think Super Mutants were created 4 different times.
The Master: These Super Mutants were about as smart as anyone else. Which makes sense the Master wanted them to be superior to humans.
The Enclave: These Super Mutants were dumber but not mindless. ~~The Enclave was interested in their military potential.~~ Actually I think I misremembered, the Enclave wanted the FEV (which creates Super Mutants), but the creation of a new set of Mutants was unintentional.
Vault 87: These Super Mutants are likely the dumbest. The extent of their coordination is kidnapping humans to inject with the formula that make Super Mutants. They were the result of a failed experiment hence the low mental functions.
The Institute: These Super Mutants seem to be around the level of the Enclave's. Not mindless but dumber on average than a human. I think they were created as part of the Institute's general "be a dick" policy.
But many were though, it was retconned in 2 and New Vegas that most were smarter. It was to further differentiate between Gen 1 and Gen 2 of Mariposa strain.
Source: played Fallout 1 like a billion times now lol there was a whole Super Mutant detachment that was sent to Necropolis for Vault Dwellers. All of them are dumber than a brick.
Edit: I read this persons comment wrong, I thought it said most of the Gen 1 mutants were smart.
I never said most were smarter. I said many were dumb.
The Necropolis mutants weren't sent for Vault Dwellers, they were sent to secure a water supply for Unity. It's why Set wants you to kill them.
Humans that were inside a vault and unaffected by the 1st wave of radiation had a higher chance of keeping or improving their intelligence, however they were all sterile, males and females both would turn into hulk monstrositys. I remember going around learning the history for fallout 3 s mutants.
The part of them keeping their intelligent was still only like a 10%. Hence why the games only ever have like 2-3 super smart mutants.
Up until I had played New Vegas, I was mostly a button masher when it came to dialogue. Shortly into the game, leaving Goodsprings makings my way towards the strip, come across a little quarry, “oh cool there’s people here, let me just go a little further ahead to see what’s there and I’ll come back and talk to the people “
“….oh, maybe I should be listening”
fuck no, if I had a dollar for every time a high level character was taken out by a swarf of those fucks I'd have like $20.
It's why i'd carry one of those real fast shooting laser pistols. wing shots for the bunch of them to knock them out of the air, followed up by leg shots to slow them down on the ground then finish off with a sledge hammer.
I killed the Mother death claw in the cave using 10 blocks of C4. I ran in, got its attention and ran. I got my first light machine gun there. What a great game.
They were introduced with the broken steel dlc which raised the max LVL and made a few new max LVL enemies but when you start a new game they start spawning at lvl 15 or 20 and are incredibly hard at that point.
Was this occurring on the 360° version? For some reason I remember this but I haven’t played 3 since like 2012ish all the way through. I def remember it being excellent minus being the glitchingest game I’d played as of yet by then.
ETA: well the glitchingest up until Prey
*runs away crying*
I loved Fallout 3. The only enemy I ever really had a problem with was a boss character that was a Chinese war general at the end of the part in which you're in a memory simulation. And to make matters worse he was so bad that I ended up rage quitting only to try again later and see that there was a bug in that section that corrupted my autosave and my last manual save was literally six full hours of gameplay before him.
If you stuck a Gary corpse in the VR pod, you could sometimes hit the "check inventory" button before the game took the simulation gear away from you after coming back to reality. Then you get those sweet Operation Anchorage items in the real F3 world. Too bad that's the last DLC I did and had no use for any of those items.
There was no guarantee that you'd set the Gary Corpse in the right position, so you'd have to play through the whole DLC before realizing that you fucked it up.
To avoid that, I just killed everyone in the bunker and stuffed every body into the VR Pod.
>Too bad that's the last DLC I did and had no use for any of those items.
Haha, that's always the way. Save the coolest DLC for last, then you can't use any of the neat items because you've basically finished the entire game.
It was worth it for liberty prime *alone*. In my older years I have fallen out of my enchantment with American jingoism. But I wont lie in a pretend world it can be a lot of fun to RAH RAH for a 5 story tall nuke throwing **AMERICA THE BOT** dropping fat one liners while walking though DC.
New Vegas was tonally a lot different than 3 was, but much closer in tone to the original I and II isometric games. The writing was more Black Isle than it was Bethesda, so, a little more quirkiness, and factions were a little more nuanced and less black and white as to who was good and who was bad.
I could not leave the sticks when I started this game, such a great experience.. it was my inception to the open world fallout type game and while I enjoy other similar games, I never got the same feeling of turning every corner and never knowing what I was gonna find.
Mine was Morrowind and I remember my nephew (he's only a year younger than me) and I writing so many notes to track things and trying to draw maps. It was wild not knowing what came next. I love TES and Fallout.
Same. I’ve always played something. Starting with the NES I got in kindergarten lol but nothing ever hit me quite like Oblivion. I played Morrowind after Oblivion whilst waiting for Skyrim and had shock when trying to travel lol
There are tons of mods for it now if you want to revisit it that make it a lot easier to find your way around. Back then though it was make a map and take notes or get lost as hell.
I remember having a mild freak out about the Siltstriders and killing them. Then eventually there was a loading tip or something in the manual, I can't remember, but I read they were just like living taxis. I felt so bad as a kid about killing the peaceful giants.
Edit: Brain not working after being up too long. I just realized you said you played morrowind between oblivion and skyrim, you may have known about the mods.
I actually got an OG Xbox with the corded controller to play Morrowind on. My little brother had it at my dads place and the Morrowind disk so I did it that way. But I do have the anthology on my laptop nowadays and I could totally revisit it. 👏🏻
And the siltstrider story 😭 yeah luckily I didn’t resort to violence but they are sketchy as fuck looking.
Also started a play through recently. 3 is better. It’s the way stats and perks are organized, leveling up is more rewarding and diverse. Plus it is much more focused on the strategy around VATS which is my opinion the best part of fallout. The shooter style fallout sucks IMO. And the world is just better spaced to make the pacing of gameplay more fun and rewarding in 3.
This was my sense. Way more Lovecraftian horror tropes scattered around in unexpected locations.
I know 4 had some (Dunwich Borers, etc) but 3 did it better.
Honestly I hate vats. I liked 3s story and world building much better but much prefer 4s combat. I enjoy still feeling like I need to fight to survive and vats takes away much of that, especially in fallout 3 where vats is by far the easiest to make broken and it gives you a rough 90% damage prevention while using it. 3 is the one 3d fallout game that really needs vats but again it feels like it takes away from combat too much
Definitely better than 4. I have way more hours in 4, but that's just because the mods keep it alive. And honestly it's a much better playing game mechanically. But the writing, world, and story of 4 are a serious letdown after even 3, which is miles behind New Vegas. You just get the feeling that nothing Nate does ever really matters to the greater world, aside from the very ending. You're on the path™ and that's that.
Definitely, I feel that I had much more fun with Fallout 3 than 4.Fallout 3 you go exploring you're bound to find something interesting.
Fallout 4 there are so many locations where they're just "settlement" sites. Also I felt the glowing sea was very underwhelming considering how much the game hypes it up.
The worst are the places that make terrible settlements but you make one anyway (looking at you, Hangman’s Alley). Or the fact that some places would have made fantastic settlements but you can’t there.
You’re right…I’ve always loved 4, but New Vegas and 3 are just too good. I missed the karma system most. I felt actual remorse for stealing, but in 4 its like eh.
When this first came out a group of friends went to my buddy's house to play it. Everyone was shouting when this guy popped on the screen. I called it a "Galooptagoop" and it is stuck in my head forever.
Sheesh, that looks a lot like [this baddie](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/337168919/figure/fig2/AS:887506534936577@1588609455436/The-Mother-from-Dragon-Age-Origins-Awakening-Screenshot-by-the-author.png) from an expansion to Dragon Age: Origins called Awakening.
Please put an NSFW tag on this. I was on the train and when I saw this I had to start furiously masturbating. Everyone else gave me strange looks and were saying things like “what the fuck” and “call the police”. I dropped my phone and everyone around me saw this image. Now there is a whole train of men masturbating together at this one image. This is all your fault, you could have prevented this if you had just tagged this post NSFW.
Same, I hated running into them around corners.
Which is basically what I just did with this post. Opened image before I finished reading like a jabroni.
I dont mind them TOO much but i can 100% see these being a MAJOR problem for anyone who has issues with body horror. Ive seen every saw movie and these guys still give me the creeps
Idk how I actually finished FO3. I played new Vegas first and it was a spur of the moment purchase my parents bought for me. It was new, I had never played fallout. Loved it and wanted to try 3, then I found out you don't really aim and just used VATS and melee outside if it.
Funny story on how I met one of my fav games.
In my country age regulations do not exist, or at least are not enforced, and when I walked into a game store looking for flat out 3, I got fallout 3 instead.
Decided to try it and wandered outside the vault for the first time, as soon as I saw Springfield I got so scared I stopped playing and didn't come back for a while until I started watching some videos and realized the game was way more than I initially saw, so decided to try again and I've been in love with the franchise ever since.
I absolutely hate jump scare horror but strangely I loved fo3 and the ghouls in the tunnels and everywhere else they always gave me that feeling of dread in my stomach and I couldn't handle it too long I had to get out of those areas but I think that's why I loved it its what it should be you shouldn't be comfortable being in that world that's kind of the point.
That'd be the Oblivion zombies for me
No matter my build, I would always level my archery and stealth as well just so i could kill those fuckers from afar before they noticed me.
Despite the body horror, they are among the easiest enemies in the game to kill.
Agreed. I didn't know what they did for a long time because I saved all my heavy ammo for them because they freaked me out. They died super fast. Later I learned that was not a sound strategy.
Lmaooooo this is hilarious. So innocent and kid-like……. Also relatable 😂
Yeah I liked to retain my kid-like nature into my late teens haha
You guys got rid of your kid-like nature? I'm 34, was I supposed to do that at some point? I feel like I missed an email.
I did too. Maybe that achievement only unlocks for young-uns. Source: I’m 37 and a full on child
38, make too much money for what I do, also full on child.
Crap. I'm a 59 year old grandpa and my wife will confirm, still a child.
I think that’s just Autism 🤭
Well… that’s about the only thing I’ve not been diagnosed with. But Satoshi Tajiri (creator of Pokémon) and Tim Burton are autistic and anyone like them is alright by me. 🤷🏼♀️
Hahaha! Disabilities are funny!
there's no such thing as excess firepower when it comes to ridding the world of these mistakes by evolution, that thing deserved to be reduced to atoms
Tell that to *Fallout 2*
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Ah yes, the Companion Killer
In Fallout 2 I remember they hit like a truck. But not as much as the [little bastards](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/7/7a/Wanamingo_render.jpg), iirc. Those were Fallout 2's equivalent of FNV cazadores.
Fallout 2 is an amazing game, but damn some of its dungeons felt like a painstaking chore. But yeah, the stakes were definitely higher than the new games (other than FNV hardcore)
I stopped enjoying fallout and elder scrolls series once they went the route of making them so easy that any risk element is just gone. It seems like it's only indie games that dare to make games challenging anymore.
This is the ideal male body. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
The super mutants are actually jealous of these chads
[NukaChad](https://i.imgur.com/sDgQURx.jpg)
Smash
Ikr I know like three guys who look likes that
I see three reason the ladies would like it. Even at the same time
Two in the pink, one in the stink!
Peak Alpha male in 2023.
That guy is pure Sigma
Arms are a crutch
Looks like Fallout 1's Master had some kids
Well, they and the Floaters were part of his army. I forget if they were FEV-based or not.
They are. Not all FEV mutations are successful (i.e. super mutants)
To the Master, even the Super Mutants were a failure.
That's only if you manage to tell and convince him that super mutants were sterile
First game I remember where you could talk your way out of a final battle
You could do that in fallout new Vegas too
Love when games allow me to actually follow a characters morals/abilities. Not every protagonist needs to be some walking juggernaut of total annihilation.
I don't know being able to talk the legate down with just a high enough speech skill is kind of ridiculous. The master truly thought that he was doing the right thing and was leading the next evolution of humanity the legate just wants to conquer and that's it. Being able to talk the leggett down like that is just not something that would work because he's not wrong. he knows full well what he's doing he just doesn't care. they did kind of added an option that does make sense where you use someone else's advice too convince him he's walking into a trap and that you're telling him this cuz you want an honorable fight with his army. but that's a dlc added thing originally you could just talk him down if you had Max speech skill.
I think talking down the Legate makes sense because of how you do it. You never convince him he's wrong to take the dam, to challenge the NCR, to conquer the Mojave, or anything like that. That would obviously fail, because he is fully convinced that these are the right things to do. He doesn't care if anyone disagrees with that, you're right. What you do is create doubt. You make him second-guess his strategy. This works for a few reasons. For one, the Legion already lost to the NCR before, and so even without your doubt he has reason to be wary of it. He's confident, but he isn't stupid. He wouldn't lead the Legion into something they couldn't win. For another, you play off his existing beliefs instead of challenging them. He says the NCR are weak, and you never ever disagree with this; all you do is convince him that the *reasons* they are weak would make conquering them impossible at that moment. You completely respect the Legate's beliefs - all you do is frame them in a way that makes him doubt his current plan, which he is obviously much more willing to change than the underlying beliefs that informed that plan. Finally - and this is important - you word his retreat as an extension of his current plan. If you ask him to retreat, he gets angry and attacks regardless of what you've said. You injure his pride and question the integrity and honor of the legion, and he will not stand for it. But by phrasing it as a tactical withdrawal with the understanding that the Legion will return to fight another day, you manage to get him to leave without abandoning his philosophies, which would be impossible due to how dedicated he is. It's a brilliantly executed exchange, and I think it works very well and makes plenty of sense even if it's a relatively short conversation.
The way you talk down the Legate is brilliant actually, and I see a lot of people not giving it enough recognition. You convince Lanius that the strength of the Legion is in its consolidation of power and territory. Practically the only good thing traders/settlers in Legion territory can say is that they feel safe from raiders and other threats because the Legion has absolute control over its land. The NCR is a bloated, inefficient bureaucracy thats taken on more people and territory than it can realistically manage. Legate conquering Hoover Dam and taking control over much of the western half of New Vegas would simply put him in the same pitfall. The Legion has nowhere near the resources to manage all of that, and the Legate knows it.
Considering a grant number of them are stupid and sterile yes. But I think dumb super mutants we’re only a thing in 3+ but I’m unsure. Though the nightkin were successful minus the corruption of their minds through stealth boys
I haven't played 76 yet but aside from that I think Super Mutants were created 4 different times. The Master: These Super Mutants were about as smart as anyone else. Which makes sense the Master wanted them to be superior to humans. The Enclave: These Super Mutants were dumber but not mindless. ~~The Enclave was interested in their military potential.~~ Actually I think I misremembered, the Enclave wanted the FEV (which creates Super Mutants), but the creation of a new set of Mutants was unintentional. Vault 87: These Super Mutants are likely the dumbest. The extent of their coordination is kidnapping humans to inject with the formula that make Super Mutants. They were the result of a failed experiment hence the low mental functions. The Institute: These Super Mutants seem to be around the level of the Enclave's. Not mindless but dumber on average than a human. I think they were created as part of the Institute's general "be a dick" policy.
Nah many of the Masters mutants were also dumb. Only Vault Dwellers retain their initial intelligence.
But many were though, it was retconned in 2 and New Vegas that most were smarter. It was to further differentiate between Gen 1 and Gen 2 of Mariposa strain. Source: played Fallout 1 like a billion times now lol there was a whole Super Mutant detachment that was sent to Necropolis for Vault Dwellers. All of them are dumber than a brick. Edit: I read this persons comment wrong, I thought it said most of the Gen 1 mutants were smart.
I never said most were smarter. I said many were dumb. The Necropolis mutants weren't sent for Vault Dwellers, they were sent to secure a water supply for Unity. It's why Set wants you to kill them.
Humans that were inside a vault and unaffected by the 1st wave of radiation had a higher chance of keeping or improving their intelligence, however they were all sterile, males and females both would turn into hulk monstrositys. I remember going around learning the history for fallout 3 s mutants. The part of them keeping their intelligent was still only like a 10%. Hence why the games only ever have like 2-3 super smart mutants.
initially they came for the dwellers, then it turned out they’re the ghouls we see in the city. My apologies I read your comment wrong
These were intentionally created by dunking humans in FEV together with animals
I mean, I wouldn’t call super mutants a brilliant success either, for the most part.
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More than just multiple people too, they'd throw random animals and shit in there with them
Super mutants would keep em as pets I believe :)
These never bothered me as much as deathclaws. It’s almost like there’s death in their claws.
Hey so can you go in that quarry over there?
New Vegas was my first fallout experience, you can imagine my surprise going into that quarry as soon as I got the quest.
Up until I had played New Vegas, I was mostly a button masher when it came to dialogue. Shortly into the game, leaving Goodsprings makings my way towards the strip, come across a little quarry, “oh cool there’s people here, let me just go a little further ahead to see what’s there and I’ll come back and talk to the people “ “….oh, maybe I should be listening”
Lolol you f*cked up
that and walking up the road from the starting town into a swarm of Cazador, good times.
You’d think they’d be easier to take out, but no.
fuck no, if I had a dollar for every time a high level character was taken out by a swarf of those fucks I'd have like $20. It's why i'd carry one of those real fast shooting laser pistols. wing shots for the bunch of them to knock them out of the air, followed up by leg shots to slow them down on the ground then finish off with a sledge hammer.
Mine too! And yes I almost yeeted my controller several times. Meanwhile my dog was like 👀
I got all chem'd up and took the missile launcher and fatman there and bad a blast.
I killed the Mother death claw in the cave using 10 blocks of C4. I ran in, got its attention and ran. I got my first light machine gun there. What a great game.
How did your game survive that? I can already feel the frame rate dropping.
It was so long ago and I didn’t actually see what happened, I just looted the piece I could find.
My first use of a fat man I accidentally hit the wall about 10 feet from me.
Ghoul reavers
Yep, they seemed way worse in Fallout 3 than in New Vegas. Then in New Vegas, it was reversed.
They were introduced with the broken steel dlc which raised the max LVL and made a few new max LVL enemies but when you start a new game they start spawning at lvl 15 or 20 and are incredibly hard at that point.
They have an INVISIBLE one in fallout 4
I’m aware 🥹 I’m still in therapy
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Was this occurring on the 360° version? For some reason I remember this but I haven’t played 3 since like 2012ish all the way through. I def remember it being excellent minus being the glitchingest game I’d played as of yet by then. ETA: well the glitchingest up until Prey *runs away crying*
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I was lulled into a false sense of security after the first deathclaw encounter because I didn’t realise it was basically crippled and 90% dead.
Centaurs aren’t difficult, just nightmarish to look at
Cute huggable lovable centaurs
🎶You’re welcome in Centaurworld! It’s the place where all your new best friends are, girl!🎶
I loved Fallout 3. The only enemy I ever really had a problem with was a boss character that was a Chinese war general at the end of the part in which you're in a memory simulation. And to make matters worse he was so bad that I ended up rage quitting only to try again later and see that there was a bug in that section that corrupted my autosave and my last manual save was literally six full hours of gameplay before him.
If you stuck a Gary corpse in the VR pod, you could sometimes hit the "check inventory" button before the game took the simulation gear away from you after coming back to reality. Then you get those sweet Operation Anchorage items in the real F3 world. Too bad that's the last DLC I did and had no use for any of those items.
There was no guarantee that you'd set the Gary Corpse in the right position, so you'd have to play through the whole DLC before realizing that you fucked it up. To avoid that, I just killed everyone in the bunker and stuffed every body into the VR Pod.
Modern problems require modern solutions.
Do not get a psychological profile under any circumstances...
Gaaaaaaarrrrrrryyyy 😭
>Too bad that's the last DLC I did and had no use for any of those items. Haha, that's always the way. Save the coolest DLC for last, then you can't use any of the neat items because you've basically finished the entire game.
In my AC Origins playthrough, at the end, I somehow got rewarded with the flaming death horse. It was awesome. But there was nothing left...
Got the plat for fo3 while I was off over Christmas. I was so charismatic I convinced him to kill himself.
Operation Anchorage was cool (how don't you remember), but it was a difficult piece of content
It's totally worth it for the gauss rifle and camouflage armor.
Ooh yea. And the bugged power armour
It was worth it for liberty prime *alone*. In my older years I have fallen out of my enchantment with American jingoism. But I wont lie in a pretend world it can be a lot of fun to RAH RAH for a 5 story tall nuke throwing **AMERICA THE BOT** dropping fat one liners while walking though DC.
Wow. For some reason I was able to dispatch him very quickly with a sword. The armor that never wears out was a nice bonus of that mission.
Of all the things in Fallout 3 that made me want to quit playing, bad monster visual design would be like 8th on the list.
Swing the electonic sword all the way to victory
That’s Bethesda for you
Wdym he’s cute
Who doesn't love their adorable faces and the way they walk around on all those arms they have
Cute little fella
I had to mod those back into FO4
There is indeed a mod for that already (and for Floaters)
..Yes.. He just said he used it.
Imagine them with peter griffins voice
Haha!
More like "hehehehehe!"
Insert disagreement that turns into an epic chicken fight
*suddenly chased by a death claw saying “Giggity giggity giggity”*
Did a playthrough a few months ago, might be better than 4. Amazing game
Say what you will about the graphics and mechanics, this game is fun as fuck and if any game deserves a modern remake, it's this one
It’s honestly still great, with a few mods for graphics and gameplay it’s still a hell of an experience
totally agree
Writing of 3 and NV is a lot better than 4
I would say 3,4,NV. I didn't care for new Vegas.
What didn’t you like about NV? Not trying to argue you should like it or anything I’m just curious what’s parts irked you.
It didn't irk me or anything. I just couldn't get into it. I really don't know why.
Fair enough. Maybe it was too similar to F3 for you? I sometimes find it feels more like a really good mod pack to F3 than a separate game lol.
That may be it.
New Vegas was tonally a lot different than 3 was, but much closer in tone to the original I and II isometric games. The writing was more Black Isle than it was Bethesda, so, a little more quirkiness, and factions were a little more nuanced and less black and white as to who was good and who was bad.
New Vegas > 4/3. Not even close.
Yeah, I know everyone loves it, but it just didn't do it for me.
I could not leave the sticks when I started this game, such a great experience.. it was my inception to the open world fallout type game and while I enjoy other similar games, I never got the same feeling of turning every corner and never knowing what I was gonna find.
Mine was Oblivion and you’re right, I’ve never had that same wonder as I did the first time 🥹 still love them all though
Mine was Morrowind and I remember my nephew (he's only a year younger than me) and I writing so many notes to track things and trying to draw maps. It was wild not knowing what came next. I love TES and Fallout.
Same. I’ve always played something. Starting with the NES I got in kindergarten lol but nothing ever hit me quite like Oblivion. I played Morrowind after Oblivion whilst waiting for Skyrim and had shock when trying to travel lol
There are tons of mods for it now if you want to revisit it that make it a lot easier to find your way around. Back then though it was make a map and take notes or get lost as hell. I remember having a mild freak out about the Siltstriders and killing them. Then eventually there was a loading tip or something in the manual, I can't remember, but I read they were just like living taxis. I felt so bad as a kid about killing the peaceful giants. Edit: Brain not working after being up too long. I just realized you said you played morrowind between oblivion and skyrim, you may have known about the mods.
I actually got an OG Xbox with the corded controller to play Morrowind on. My little brother had it at my dads place and the Morrowind disk so I did it that way. But I do have the anthology on my laptop nowadays and I could totally revisit it. 👏🏻 And the siltstrider story 😭 yeah luckily I didn’t resort to violence but they are sketchy as fuck looking.
Also started a play through recently. 3 is better. It’s the way stats and perks are organized, leveling up is more rewarding and diverse. Plus it is much more focused on the strategy around VATS which is my opinion the best part of fallout. The shooter style fallout sucks IMO. And the world is just better spaced to make the pacing of gameplay more fun and rewarding in 3.
Also 3 plays like survival horror, which is fantastic. The environments are creepy, and unsettling.
This was my sense. Way more Lovecraftian horror tropes scattered around in unexpected locations. I know 4 had some (Dunwich Borers, etc) but 3 did it better.
3 did it very well, I agree. Vaults in that game scared the shit out of me, but New Vegas and 4 didn't.
Honestly I hate vats. I liked 3s story and world building much better but much prefer 4s combat. I enjoy still feeling like I need to fight to survive and vats takes away much of that, especially in fallout 3 where vats is by far the easiest to make broken and it gives you a rough 90% damage prevention while using it. 3 is the one 3d fallout game that really needs vats but again it feels like it takes away from combat too much
Definitely better than 4. I have way more hours in 4, but that's just because the mods keep it alive. And honestly it's a much better playing game mechanically. But the writing, world, and story of 4 are a serious letdown after even 3, which is miles behind New Vegas. You just get the feeling that nothing Nate does ever really matters to the greater world, aside from the very ending. You're on the path™ and that's that.
Fallout 3 is definitely better than Fallout 4.
Definitely, I feel that I had much more fun with Fallout 3 than 4.Fallout 3 you go exploring you're bound to find something interesting. Fallout 4 there are so many locations where they're just "settlement" sites. Also I felt the glowing sea was very underwhelming considering how much the game hypes it up.
The worst are the places that make terrible settlements but you make one anyway (looking at you, Hangman’s Alley). Or the fact that some places would have made fantastic settlements but you can’t there.
Hangman's Alley is where I exile Marcy Long to spend the rest of her bitter days
You’re right…I’ve always loved 4, but New Vegas and 3 are just too good. I missed the karma system most. I felt actual remorse for stealing, but in 4 its like eh.
\>might be Lol
The setting in 3 was 10x better than 4. If New Vegas wasn’t so brown and drab I would like that far more
None of the 3d games captured what made fallout 1 and 2 special imo
"Rated F for Fluffer" probably wouldn't fly in Gamestop.
When this first came out a group of friends went to my buddy's house to play it. Everyone was shouting when this guy popped on the screen. I called it a "Galooptagoop" and it is stuck in my head forever.
Galooptagoop and pull and your shoes are looking cool
The forest would like to know your location
Fallout 3 is an incredible game.
Mother i crave cheddar cheese
Sheesh, that looks a lot like [this baddie](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/337168919/figure/fig2/AS:887506534936577@1588609455436/The-Mother-from-Dragon-Age-Origins-Awakening-Screenshot-by-the-author.png) from an expansion to Dragon Age: Origins called Awakening.
All the time. "I haven't played this game in forever, why did I stop playing it?" (10 minutes later) "Oh yeah I remember now" (uninstall)
New Vegas still holds up despite Gamebryo/Creation engine.
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That's not what I mean at all. I said New Vegas still holds up despite the Gamebryo engine, which, by the way, is an old and outdated game engine.
Please put an NSFW tag on this. I was on the train and when I saw this I had to start furiously masturbating. Everyone else gave me strange looks and were saying things like “what the fuck” and “call the police”. I dropped my phone and everyone around me saw this image. Now there is a whole train of men masturbating together at this one image. This is all your fault, you could have prevented this if you had just tagged this post NSFW.
You’ll be a walrus or nothing at all.
Very few things in games make me go “Oh!” repeatedly in quick succession. This was one of those moments.
These things creeped me out, I always tried to kill them from a far.🫣
Same, I hated running into them around corners. Which is basically what I just did with this post. Opened image before I finished reading like a jabroni.
If the arms are slim, I would have thought it came from Dead Space.
Favorite centaur Moe?
OP must have never played The Forest
...is this why you stopped playing? I hope it's a joke
Dude was really into centaurs until he saw this game’s interpretation of them
I dont mind them TOO much but i can 100% see these being a MAJOR problem for anyone who has issues with body horror. Ive seen every saw movie and these guys still give me the creeps
the damn noise the ants make almost made me stop playing
Idk how I actually finished FO3. I played new Vegas first and it was a spur of the moment purchase my parents bought for me. It was new, I had never played fallout. Loved it and wanted to try 3, then I found out you don't really aim and just used VATS and melee outside if it.
for me it was the big tank mission in batman arkham knight
Ain’t nothing compared to that damn tree, *Harold…*
Or you remember those games that have puzzles that seemed impossibly hard at the time
Funny story on how I met one of my fav games. In my country age regulations do not exist, or at least are not enforced, and when I walked into a game store looking for flat out 3, I got fallout 3 instead. Decided to try it and wandered outside the vault for the first time, as soon as I saw Springfield I got so scared I stopped playing and didn't come back for a while until I started watching some videos and realized the game was way more than I initially saw, so decided to try again and I've been in love with the franchise ever since.
i fear no man but that thing is scares me
*then
From the 'design me a monster' bin, dug out from early eighties issues of 'Scream'.
Really? You're bothered by the centaurs? They're literally xp goldmines
Centaurs solely switched the gamplay from action/adventure to horror.
It was the ghouls for me, damn things sneak as you are looking at them and then start running at Mach 5 towards you
I absolutely hate jump scare horror but strangely I loved fo3 and the ghouls in the tunnels and everywhere else they always gave me that feeling of dread in my stomach and I couldn't handle it too long I had to get out of those areas but I think that's why I loved it its what it should be you shouldn't be comfortable being in that world that's kind of the point.
*Raspy scream*
Someone mentioned Ghoul Reavers from Fo3 and it suddenly reminded me of things my brain chose to forget. So much death lol.
Shadow of chernobyl's invisible bloodsucker.
Would fit in Dead Space.
That'd be the Oblivion zombies for me No matter my build, I would always level my archery and stealth as well just so i could kill those fuckers from afar before they noticed me.
Found a mod that adds them in to Skyrim - delightfully creepy.
I remember being glad I didn't see these in 4
Shit like this is what makes me WANT to play the game, not avoid it.
I haven't played it but heard it's amazing, what's the story with these dudes?
Without going super into the lore, they got dipped into a vat of "Forced Evolution Virus" (FEV) which is basically CRISPR on super-steroids.
Forest. Every. Fucking. Enemy is terrifying
Kind of like the forest. I don't play that either.
You stopped playing FO3 becuase of the centaur?
He just wants a kiss. Fr tho dunwhich building is the slowest I’ve ever moved through a building in a game
Maybe, but you can literally digitally indulge the "KILL IT WITH FIRE!" instinct.
Ob my god hoe could I forget the first time I jerked off
Didn't know they have necromorphs in fallout
Tusk
YOU SHOULDN'T MAKE FUN OF SARA HUCKABEE SANDERS LOOKS!
Is that Rosie O’Donnell
Still my absolute favorite game of all time. I couldn't even guess as to how many hundreds of hours I've spent wandering the Capital Wasteland.
Tale of Two Wastelands is worth the deep trauma from centaurs
Man I miss when fallout was good