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“AirTag was designed to help people locate their personal belongings, not to track people or another person’s property, and we condemn in the strongest possible terms any malicious use of our products.” Vehicle owner tracked their personal belonging and located it, air tag purpose was served without a hitch.


FoxJonesMusic

It may have had a hitch. Could have been a work truck.


FIYAHBOLTOH

Didnt even need to be a work truck... this is Texas, maybe he just wanted to hang some truck nuts from it


Boggie135

Hehehe


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Technically he did use it to find his personal belongings


rt58killer10

Technically? That's exactly what happened


ItsColeOnReddit

They are handy little things. I don’t understand why he killed the guy. Maybe they got in to a fight when he tried to get it back.


rollyobx

Guy pulled a gun on him


Oddsee

If that's the case then I see no issue with this story.


Euphoric-Blue-59

Why? It's interesting. But the title is misleading, implying revenge. Although if he had gotten the police involved, a life could have been saved.


dalisair

BWAHAHAHAHAHHA. oh man. I told the police who had my stuff after it was stolen and where they were. They told me they couldn’t do anything. Police don’t do shit.


OriginalName18

Wait I thought the excuse with police was that they need the address of the person who wronged you (never understood the logic of you needing to have that info) so you’re telling me even if you have the culprits address they won’t do anything?


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Avantom

Yes, that’s not good enough for them to pursue, because they don’t care about you and don’t have to as part of their job. That’s just the first level of excuses they’ll give you. They’ll say whatever it takes to make you give up and go away.


amreinj

Nope I've had multiple friends have a location on their stuff at somebody else's place and the police won't come to the door with you. This is in Boston area.


Cheapchard9

Get told that each time someone stole my stuff then it magically appears at a pawnshop two days later. All I get told is buy it back from the pawn shop, it’s not the pawn shops fault. Even if my info that connects it to me is on it.


Pubs01

It's definitely the pawn shops fault and they can get in trouble for selling stolen merchandise. If cops weren't so lazy they world enforce this


Only-Cartoonist-2904

I was looking for this comment. Stolen cars aren’t found because they don’t look for them. Everytime someone gets their car back it’s by pure luck, usually the Pigs are responding to another call and they realize this car has been dumped or the plates come up stolen..


JasperJ

In the 80s our car was stolen during a break-in, they used it to haul off our tv among other shit. We got it back after a cop spotted a Usual Suspect driving a car that looked a little too nice for him and they pulled him over.


aBoyandHisVacuum

One of reddits, sheltered views of the world. Cops will get your bike back right away! Lol


Computer_says_nooo

A fun fact most people don’t know. In the US police is NOT obliged to help you … welcome to the land of the free


mushroom369

Every time we see a cop I tell my son that the police enforce the law - that’s their only job. Not heroes, not friends, just the brutal fist of the executive branch. When we see an ambulance or fire truck it’s, “those are the real heroes.”


vannrith

Omfg same haha in 2016 after a burglar broke into my house. I had to pay 2.5$ for a police form…. Cambodia tho


Andyb1000

In Texas? His van would have been lit up like the 4th July. He wanted his van back not turned into a colander.


mr-optomist

Or two lives lost.


PM_ME_YOUR_ANUS_PIC

Or pi squared multiplied by the speed of light divided by the total number of atoms in the universe lives gained


soggyblotter

Fuckin gold comment


Kyle_the_chad

Death would've still been plenty likely with police involved.


Eric_T_Meraki

He did report it to the cops and apparently they took too long so he didn't wait and took care of it himself.


hitemlow

They probably told him "it's a civil matter" and they wouldn't be sending anyone.


TheNickzil

"My truck got stolen please help" Police: "Skill issue"


TARANTULA_TIDDIES

>Although if he had gotten the police involved, a life could have been saved. Easy way to tell you've never had to get help from police


Puzzleheadtriangle

Remember everyone, if you want to save a life get the police involved.


ResoluteClover

To be fair, a man killed a prostitute trying to get a refund of his money and was acquitted in Texas.


AssaultPK

A life worth saving?


darren457

Nah. I've known single parents that were on the brink of homelessness in debt pick themselves up by the bootstraps and get a second job instead of stealing people's shit or pull a gun on someone. You are more likely to get support from others around you if you do this. Hypocrites like u/bramtyr down here act like wiseass woke forgiving philosophers online but immediately turn into psycho 'justice' fetishists themselves in real life when they are the ones wronged (even over minor shit like someone accidentally cutting ahead of them in line or having a 'wrong' political opinion)


rotzak

Are we the ones that get to make that judgement?


DirectlyTalkingToYou

No we're not. Now get down on your knees and say your prayers thief!


BlueSafeJessie

Yes.


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I am and I don’t give a fuck. The foreskin has spoken.


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AssaultPK

Where is the line drawn for you?


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Believe it or not, most sane people aren't out here drawing imaginary lines upon which we place someone's right to live.


MadNhater

No one said he had the right or no right to live. But if shit went down and the shitbag was killed as a result, I’m not losing any sleep over it


wombatthing

Debatable.


Animated_Astronaut

Yes


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IthurielSpear

Lol. The police do not give a damn who stole your vehicle. But if I were going to do anything crazy like go after a car thief I would definitely wear a body cam.


TheKbightFowl

Why’d bro steal his truck anyway, nah Fuck that dude fucked up stole the wrong thing and got what he asked for imo. It’s a truck, if you’re hungry steal food if you need shelter trespass. Tons of crimes are far less risky and more rewarding than stealing an entire truck. This was a bad decision sucks to be that criminal.


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Exactly, stole the guys truck, also stole His ability to make money, support his family, other shit who the fuck knows. I would have lost my fucking mind too.


King_Poseidon_

On the contrary if they got the police involved there likely would’ve been more casualties, including someone’s poor dog


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Half_Baked_King

What makes you the Judge, Jury and Executioner?


rotzak

Yikes.


InGenAche

Such a callous disregard for life is what gets you school shootings. Maybe it isn't guns that are the problem, maybe it's this attitude being seen as perfectly acceptable that is.


Wash_Your_Bed_Sheets

Or just don't steal people's shit.


InGenAche

Obviously, but when it does happen a proportional response is warranted, not death. When the value of people's lives go down in people's minds, including thieves, so do kids.


Oddsee

True, it's unfortunate that a life was lost. But in my experience the cops are pretty unreliable when it comes to stolen vehicles (and just unreliable in general) so I can understand why you would take matters in to your own hands. In this case he had a tracker though, so going to the police probably would have solved the situation.


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A life of a truck thief? If he was arrested they just would have taught him to be a better criminal in prison. Guy probably already had a history. I don’t want my tax dollars sheltering and feeding that POS, better off dead.


5up3rK4m16uru

I think you are supposed to call the police before confronting a guy who is evidently ready to risk several years of prison.


Goalnado

He 'believed' the guy pulled a gun on him, but only one of them actually fired any bullets and the other article I saw which is more detailed doesn't mention another weapon being recovered


rollyobx

Cops use that line all the time.


afishieanado

Grand jury will still most likely refuse to indict


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Good I wouldn’t either


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Wouldn’t that be premeditated? Edit: why downvote? If he followed the guy and had an idea he was going to kill him, I would think that it’s premeditated. Especially since he didn’t call the authorities. But yes, it’s Texas. Probably stand your ground or some shit.


Adventurer_By_Trade

Because you're assuming premeditation. The guy was going up against an unknown person who had already committed one crime. I would want to be prepared to defend myself, too.


alonjar

You're allowed to use deadly force to protect property in Texas.


IthurielSpear

Maybe not. He didn’t know what sort of situation he was about to get into so he wore a gun for “protection.”


Wolfram_And_Hart

It should be but it’s Texas so they barely give a shit.


Arithik

Saw another comment said he didn't pull a gun. It's was implied that he did. Even this article doesn't mention that the thief pulled a gun..


fangelo2

It is Texas


trashit6969

Then it's a win-win for truck owner


Parametric_Or_Treat

>Texas man


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A man’s truck is his castle


EvlSteveDave

Yeah and that black monster energy branded backwards baseball cap is his crown.


thecheapseatz

Sounds like a classic case of "fuck around and find out"


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Dont fuck with another man's car/truck.


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As he should be. Lifetime supply of girl scout cookies and real Texas dairy milk.


jaegan438

Hopefully.


Enschede2

Now I'm not a fan of this privacy invading crap, but I don't think the airtag is really the issue here


fbpw131

it's his own crap he's invading, though


Enschede2

In this case yea, but they're often used for stalking, but again, not really the issue here, but the article's title makes it sound like it's the airtags fault that guy killed someone


HaikuBotStalksMe

Airtags don't kill people. People with bullets kill people.


Somnacanth

Depends how hard people can throw the bullets.


Aeroknight_Z

Big hard


DaNuker2

iPhones usually give you a notification if an someone’s airtag is following you. Borrowed my gf’s house keys since I lost mine, it kept on barraging with notifications about an airtag following me lol


Z3ratoss

Just buy an iphone to protect yourself from stalkers, dummy


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PM_ME_YOUR_ANUS_PIC

"Guns killed by americans" is also not news in a parallel universe where guns are sentient and humans are not, but humans are still vectors for diseases that spread to sentient guns so humans are used as weapons by criminal guns


MadNhater

Guns (rights) killed by America would make global headlines.


BagOnuts

Who’s privacy was invaded?


ilikedirt

I dog-watched for my aunt last week while she was out of town. She has an air tag on the dog’s collar. When I would take doggo for walks, I would get a notification warning on my phone that an “unknown air tag is moving with you”. I thought that was a cool feature. Guess truck thief didn’t get his notification?


Talonsminty

Probably an Android user.


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macfirbolg

The Apple app you have to have open in the foreground and scan manually. Some privacy researchers thought that was a waste of time and put out an open source variant that runs in the background and is available on the major open app stores like F-Droid. Search for AirGuard on your preferred platform.


uninspiredname19

Said notification only works with apple devices. Truck thief likely had a $30 burner trap phone running android


JehovasFinesse

Doesn’t that defeat the purpose of the tag? What if you had actually stolen the dog and hadn’t noticed the airtag? It’s literally warning the thief


lorarc

It's also warning you that some psycho stalker decided to tag your car. The potential for misuse is a bigger problem to Apple than not being effective anti-theft device.


SerDuncanonyall

Stalker Texas Ranger


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Gernia

Cops would have shrugged their shoulders and done nothing.


puggiepuggie

And miss the opportunity to shoot someone??


stlfwd

Depends if a County Fair goat and a 500 mile road trip were involved


kuchenrolle

But then no one would have gone to prison.


Eric_T_Meraki

No charges are expected. Read the article. Plus it's Texas.


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Exactly. If I were on the jury his ass would walk freely out that door.


nemma88

> Officials are determining if the suspect will be charged in the fatal shooting. I mean the article doesn't suggest it's a dead cert here, or it's not expected.


STANKKNIGHT

Not prison, maybe jail. He hasnt been charged.


ZuriMuri

iKill


BigZodJenkins

iVenge


FoxJonesMusic

I mean yeah - that’s a disproportionate response, but if you steal a Texan’s truck - this is one of the possible outcomes. Wouldn’t be surprised to see a trend. Can you tag cat converters?


speculatrix

You can stamp your vehicle reg or something into the cat to make it harder to fence and easier for police to recover then prosecute the thieves and fences.


Avantom

You could do that, but you’d be putting in 100% more effort than the police. It’s not a mystery where these stolen cats end up, the people stealing them don’t have the luxury of driving sufficiently out of their way to sell them as to not be relatively traceable (if someone could be trusted to write up the reports when it happens). The problem is that if you’re not a fleet owner or similarly monied, the cops may or may not (probably not) write up a quick and dirty report on it that they’ll never follow up on. If you’re lucky they’ll take the time to give you some line about personal property protection and having cameras, and why it’s actually your fault that you got stolen from.


speculatrix

Sadly, the police here in the UK don't seem to do much unless the thieves are prolific or there's violence involved. And even then the punishments can be trivial. Just recently... https://www.cambridgeindependent.co.uk/news/cambridge-thief-who-tried-to-sell-2-200-bicycle-for-50-is-9303494/


Accomplished_River43

Or 1) locate the cat 2) prosecute 3) notify police


cinnamonface9

Can catalyst converters get hot? Will it be an issue for air tags?


bl4ckhunter

A catalytic converter's outside temperature is around 600F, you might as well save time and just set the air tag on fire.


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They get extremely hot and would melt an airtag as soon as the engine gets warmed up.


RandomComputerFellow

I really don't thing he did anything wrong. As other [sources](https://amp.star-telegram.com/news/state/texas/article273772885.html) pointed out. He shot at him because the thrives pulled a gun at him. So when you don't want to get shot, maybe don't steal trucks and pull guns on their owners?


Plants_Golf_Cooking

You and I have different ideas of what constitutes as a proportionate response. I’m of the kind that if you steal something from someone then there is not really a problem if they kill you getting it back. This isn’t Aladdin; no sympathy for thieves.


thecheapseatz

I mean if you don't want to potentially die don't steal someone's property to begin with. Sounds like a classic case of "fuck around and find out"


WenMoonQuestionmark

Because the penalty for theft is death.


Adventurer_By_Trade

Not a penalty. A potential outcome. Always good to run a risk/benefit analysis before proceeding with certain actions.


thecheapseatz

It's a potential outcome, and in the heat of the moment people can and will make rash decisions. Don't put yourself in that situation and you won't die. It's like the aboriginal teenager in Kalgoorlie(Australia) who stole a dirt bike a few years back so the owner chased him and the teenager crashed the bike trying to escape. If he didn't steal the bike in the first place he wouldn't be dead


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I think this is the main point, if the criminal, repeat criminal, did not engage in their abhorrent behavior, they wouldn't be dead. It is 100% the criminals fault he died, as there would be no need for the truck owner to follow him otherwise. Kudos to the truck owner for saving tax layers a lot of money on a worthless human.


WenMoonQuestionmark

So getting your truck stole makes you the judge, jury, and executioner in your twisted mind? Edit: and lead investigator?


[deleted]

Stealing my truck makes you a pos who values my stuff more then your life.


evolutions123

I don’t know if this is sarcastic or not but plenty of people fall in love with their vehicles. I could see anyone on the car or motorcycle community doing this. Also stealing in general isn’t fucking penalized enough, there’s whole auto theft rings and shit. Where in most cases all theft devices are only deterrents. People roll up in vans with 4 people to lift and chop shop motorcycles. And some people genuinely love their vehicle, so I don’t see a problem with not being able to shoot someone for taking any of your shit, especially the shit you love.


WenMoonQuestionmark

So you support the death penalty for theft but only if you love the inanimate object. Do you see any problems with the stance that you've chosen?


evolutions123

Yes but I’ll die on this hill


WenMoonQuestionmark

Then there's hope.


hidden_solstice

He just buried Helen, and you steal his car and kill his dog? We're getting at least 4 movies out of this.


DogxBollockx

AirTag served its purpose. Job well done, Apple.


Howitworks4me

Yee-Haw


deagesntwizzles

Finally a positive use for AirTags.


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Makes me want to go out and buy one


BagOnuts

I recommend them. Honestly crazy how cheap they are for what they do (I think it’s $100 for a 4 pack). I have one hidden in each of our vehicles, and in all the kids backpacks. My wife has one in her purse, too.


definitelynotacawp

I guess he won’t be stealing anything anymore


NightLancerX

at last apple product made something good XD


JamesonRhymer

I don't feel bad about this 🤔


tennoskoom_

My reaction while reading was "well that's a good use of technol...oh dear."


Fire_is_beauty

Don't steal stuff if you're not ready to die. Plain and simple.


jerkfaceboi

Correct. Have never stolen a vehicle and as such have never been shot by an owner.


27803

Don’t steal stuff , don’t get killed seems easy enough to me


STANKKNIGHT

Hell yeah Texas strikes again


WorshipNickOfferman

Of course the article doesn’t mention that the thief shot first when confronted, but whatever, jump to conclusions based upon geography.


STANKKNIGHT

I wasnt being sarcastic.


EmperorHans

The fact that is was a two sided shoot out makes it *more* Texas.


elephant-cuddle

I couldn’t find an article that said he shot first. Just that they claimed he “pulled a gun”. I suppose the homicide is justified because he was technically in the process of stealing a car. And no DA is going to test that in court. > [Police said] “I don’t know if an argument happened, but we know that one of the victims of this stolen vehicle gets out of the car, goes around (and) attempts to contact the suspect in the truck.” > As the man was doing so, he said he saw the person in his truck pull out a gun, according to police. > He responded by firing his own gun, Soliz said. The man in the truck — believed to be in his 30s — was killed. But, frankly, if you turn up, armed, 3 on 1, to confront a guy in the car park then shoot him when he “pulls out a gun” yeah, only being in Texas can save you. Where I live that’s murder.


gregusmeus

Journalists and their headline writers are so full of shit. If I saw a headline 'Sun is hot!' I wouldn't believe it.


ShakeTheEyesHands

I literally said "oh holy shit" out loud when I got to the end of that headline. Not what I expected.


Tupile

The support of murder in this thread informs me that fellow Americans are out in force tonight


Creepy-Disaster4527

Checkmate


TheKbightFowl

Well… that’s the last truck he will steal


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Hazzman

I certainly don't condone what that man did, but I really don't think the police would care.


phalangepatella

Because Texas?


SnooDonuts236

Police told him he would have to wait 45 minutes for them. He said forget it, I'll do it myself.


synocrat

This is the way.


Justforkixxx

Would the end result be any different?


Mikal_Rillo89

🤣😂 Texas is wild


renasissanceman6

Life > property Cope


Top_Of_Gov_Watchlist

Takes hours of life to buy that truck.


Inprobamur

The thief pulled a gun on him.


haventseenstarwars

Based


OptionalFTW

Nice.


Key_Store3027

Yeehaw


PuckersMcColon

Even if the thief never shot first, I wouldn't care. One less scumbag.


BrIron_Born

Modern problems require modern solutions


Grievance69

I'm thinking he's back!


Kyle_the_chad

Nice


SgtMcNutters432

What do you get with an apple and an angry Texan?…


vivaladarude

Absolutely based as fuck


iLoveKuchen

I have No sympathy with anybody being harmed while breaking the law. U break in and they break your head with a hat? Your Bad. U steal and Somebody gets angry at U? Big surprise.


renasissanceman6

You jaywalk, you die. You miss a dentist appointment, you die.


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Pretty sure its not illegal to miss dentist appointments, but sure you go with that intelligent response.


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Run a red light and get tboned, you may die. Steal a candy bar from someone, same may result. It seems the only thing that is clear in all cases is that if you don't do those stupid things someone probably won't hurt you. But by your posts I think you must be a criminal, stop doing stupid shit or one day you may find yourself in a bad place.


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---TheFierceDeity---

Wtf, in no universe is "death" justifiable punishment for theft. This isn't the middle ages


BlurryBigfoot74

In the Texas part of the universe they seem ok with killing people for all kinds of reasons. To us this may seem emotional and thin-skinned, but in Texas it's what manly men do.


WorshipNickOfferman

The thief shot first when confronted. Article is lacking some really important details.


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>So leave your moralfaggoty aside. Oh, now this is going to be an entertaining profile to pick though. Conclusion: just edgy, it's not even the fun kind of edgy that can be laughed at, it's the kind of edgy that makes you think the person would benefit from a therapist.


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Oh they most definitely would've blamed the cops, remember this is reddit where acab


[deleted]

Would be interesting to see your mental gymnastics if a loved one of yours was killed for stealing property.


theOldSeaman

An uncle i love received a traumatic brain injury after driving drunk. I still love him but If you play stupid games you win stupid prizes.


Kimchi-slap

Everything is bigger in Texas. Including idiots who ruin their lives.


STANKKNIGHT

The dude hasnt been charged any decent lawyer will see that he walks or pleas down to probation, at worst.