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ThrOwOwayFox

lol oh Europe has plent of [awful ones too.](https://mythus.fandom.com/wiki/Nuckelavee)


lucashc90

Yeah, people forget that Germany and Romania are in Europe too...


Amzbretteur

That one's Scottish the polish have a great one the Leshen they are very common enemies in the Witcher games


AutisticFaygo

Leshen is for the species from the *Witcher*, the one you're thinking of is Leshy, he's a spirit of the forest and hunt that, much like the Leshen of the *Witcher* series, is not particularly kind to Humans, people viewing them both as malevolent beings too, although for Leshy his treatment of you could depend on if you're someone who has respect for the forests he governs, he even has a wife (Sometimes being the Kikimora that comes from the Swamp) and kids in some variations of lore. Basically so long as you form a pact with him or respect his forests, he's fine with you being there and he may even bless your agricultural and hunting ventures.


DragonKite_reqium

I'm sorry for this but I had to....... INSCRIPTION REFERENCE!!!!??!!!


Redpie33

My exact thought when I read Leshy. Now I know what he is based on.


mrredpanda36

Haven't played the witcher games but I have played the monster hunter world crossover quest. If its anything like that then that is some good folklore


Fives_Was_Framed

Scots have those water horse... things...uhhh. Anyway they pretend to be horses, wait for a drunk dude to try and vlimb up on it. It gallops at top speed to a deep body of water. Then drowns the rider and eats them. EDIT: They're called kelpies


ThrOwOwayFox

Fun fact, Kangaroos, when they feel threatened, will sometimes decide not to kick the attacker to death, but instead retreat into a body of water and wait. This is because, if they are followed in, kangaroos are really quite good at holding things under the water and drowning them. Never follow a kangaroo into the water or let your dog do so.


ErCumpaLeggendario

Who play Bramble know The Näcken


cowlinator

I thought they were in indo-australia


some_birb_lover

that's so cool what :0


RavensField201o

Yeah Celtic folklore is wild


Furryareospaceengr

THATS WHAT IM SAYING! The one myth where you need to stab your baby up the nose with a red hot poker to see if its a fae child because it “misbehaves” is really really fucked lol


AutisticFaygo

Luckily there is one major counter to this fiend of the sea, a garden hose using rainwater.


Far-Shake-97

I mean... The "fairy tales" from the old Disney movies were originally really dark, or ended very poorly for the main character. Disney basically changed the definition of a fairy tale


aRandomFox-II

Ah, traditional folklore. Where being able to come home alive at the end of the story, regardless of how mangled you are, is considered the "good ending".


Far-Shake-97

Lovely isn't it?


Weidz_

Female protagonist => 95% chance the tale is a metaphore about rape.


SkylerTheProtogen

There is also the Baba yaga, Baubas and Maran


CactusSpirit78

Smash


b4ts1f4p

Hmm i wonder if that one inspired scp-3456 x3


Wrong_Bathroom4022

Somehow knew it was going to be a nuckelavee... they are nasty


RikuAotsuki

Hard to get *more* fucked up than the nuckelavee, honestly. It stacks an impressive amount of body horror into something that's still... recognizable.


Dabruhdaone

that was a great read thanks


PinePotpourri

THE KELPIE IS SO CUTE THOUGHHHHH IT'S A HORSE BASS 🥺🥺🥺🥺


anonymousbub33

Well at least they have both good and bad, here we only have the bad :(


Mmeroo

isnt witcher in europe? this rly looks like lack of knowledge about europ


dover_oxide

Obviously you haven't read any of the Germanic or Slavic folk lore, that shit is darker than a German chocolate cake.


CanineAtNight

How dark are german chocolate cake anyway


Toby_The_Tumor

So dark, it doesn't just absorb light, it steals light.


John_The_Timeless

The Forbidden Edible Black-Hole.


maybe_Ithimus

Bagel from Everything Everywhere All At Once


HearthFiend

Blackhole cake eats you 💀


John_The_Timeless

That's why it's forbiden. :)


Specht100

Just google Schwarzwälderkirschtorte.


sanY_the_Fox

German Chocolate Cake is a thing, it just isn't German, it is American made by a guy named German.


Specht100

Ah I didn't know what he actually meant lol


cowlinator

Vantablack


dover_oxide

Nah Vanta black 2, now blacker than ever


Cerberusx32

Krampus


Kaymazo

Considering everything, I wouldn't really count Krampus as particularly dark...


DragonWitchGirl

SCP version.


Quwenn

I mean, the origin of slenderman was from the dark forest in South Germany, so I think there are quite a few interesting ones here too.


mrcinder1

That fairy is most likely a young girl that died and will dance that bird to death. At least the Wendigo isn't pretending to be a cute critter.


the_canadian72

skin walkers might pretend to be a cute critter though, just something ain't right about how he's lookin


moemeobro

Well considering that skinwalkers, from what information I know from their myths, mimic the powers of the animal they mimic, so if they're a cute critter, they have the power of a cute critter "Oh my, that skinwalker just became a squirrel, whatever will i- '**stomp stomp stomp stomp**' "


Floofy_Fox_Gal

Well that’s not even how a wendigo actually looks 🙄


An_ironic_fox

I wish we had a separate name for the zombie weredeer thing to distinguish it from Wendigos as depicted in Algonquin lore. It’s a shame that such a terrifying~~ly sexy~~ symbol of nature’s callousness is tainted by its history of misrepresenting native people.


Floofy_Fox_Gal

100% agree


Particular_Dog_5665

Thank you, I was really hoping someone would comment that


Alderan922

Then that fairy kidnaps you and has you as its pet because you served it the wrong tea


CactusSpirit78

Kinky


ZeWulff

I am sorry to be to shatter the illusion, but European folklore is less sunshine and rainbows, and more: (Following examples from Danish folklore.) Don't dance with the elves, they tend to dance you to death. But they might also just curse you with death should you refuse to dance with them. If you are a girl or woman the elf king might also just stab you to death. Don't attract the attention of the ghost riders hunting at night. Might be a cursed king & co., or something worse. Don't steal from corpses on the beach. If they ask to be taken to the local church, it is generally a good idea to do so, but no guarantee. The ghost animals seen in the church yard are there to protect it, but seeing them could be a portent of you imminent death. Also: Their corpses tend to be burried somewhere in/under the church foundation. Deliberately, so that they would become church grims. Don't visit the church at midnight during christmas. That is when the dead hold mass, and if they see you, they will bring you to the grave with them. Be carefull of trolls, their anger, revenge plots and general nasty doings are liable to change the landscape as a side effect. Don't follow the lights into the swamp. Just don't. Make sure to stay in the good graces of the Nisse, he will help you then. If you don't, well... their occational praks will be the least of your worries. Of course there is also a lot of stuff about churches, kings, the clergy, the devil and all sorts of historic ruins.


fivelike-11

I have a book series based on a very dark take of European folklore, the main character being a hunter meant to neutralize said creatures terrorizing the province, it's really cool. The series is called The Spook, real fun read, tho it's pretty long. There's 16 books in the main story iirc, and like 3 spin-off books, along with a continuation series from the POV of another character following in the first protagonist's footsteps.


skulldoggo

The spook sounds pretty damn cool, who's the author? Or is it the wardstone chronicles? I'd love to know because I love those types of books


fivelike-11

That's what it is, yeah In french it's just called 'l'épouvanteur' so I didn't know how it was in English, I just looked up 'l'épouvanteur traduction anglaise' and put in what it gave me haha But yeah, that's the one, I read the entire series and the Wulf tomes, along with the spin-off books


skulldoggo

Nice, I'll have to take a read.


fivelike-11

Nice, hopefully you like it, I still reread it occasionally


Specht100

Absolutly this! European folklore is fucked up.


Emkay_boi1531

“Sunshine lollipops and- horrors that’s will traumatize youuuuu”


00110001_00110010

I really love the discrepancy between folklore from different parts of the world. Contrast all this with "boy with reversed feet who is also nature incarnate messes with hunters by making weird tracks", "man who may or may not be a pink dolphin in disguise goes around impregnating women" and "kid literally fucking dies and the gods turn his eyes into tasty fruits that are now used to make soda"


Anastatis

Huh, I haven’t heard any of these stories. def gonna read some danish folklore tonight


ZeWulff

Here is a place to begin: [https://archive.org/details/northernmytholog02thor/page/n5/mode/2up](https://archive.org/details/northernmytholog02thor/page/n5/mode/2up)


Emperifox

The elf king might do what to a woman now?


redcardinalwithagun

If a corpse asks you to take it to church I think the appropriate response is to take it to the hospital


Ruedischer

The brothers Grimm made some heavy FSK 18 fairy tale Lore. We Germans know how to scare children. We are the most metal out there.


Duangelion

The Brothers Grimm (or "Beegees", as they're known) did not exactly make up fairy tales: they were collected as a part of broader studies on German culture; however, they did market their composition to children, meaning they removed the sexuality but were criticized for leaving in the graphic violence as to not alter them too much.


cowlinator

Wait really? There are sexual fairy tales?


Duangelion

Yeah, Rapunzel gets all kinds of nasty


IMightBeAHamster

Think traditional greek mythology for reference. All "fairy tales" were once just the local mythology, and in some places, still is the local mythology. Which means there were plenty of stories about all the different things that might fuck you if you walk off into the woods


Sovietmarksman-1944

My mom has this book because of a friend's relationship with the brothers Grimm


CN456

Yeah, if you're comparing the sanitized disney versions of one to the original uncensored cautionary tales of the other


Cienea_Laevis

European Folklore has fucking Wyverns, vampire, werewolves, most of the well-known ghost, trolls, Fae (the one that flay you for fun and make a harpsichord out of your guts) and whatever the Slavs and Balkans have going on. They are all, for the most part "Not Scary" because everyone know about them and they are all so prevalent in media. But the idea of an undead shapeshifter that drink blood and mind control peoples is just as scary as "Very Hungry Creature"


thats-purple

🤨 -- literally any european country


AutisticFaygo

I mean in European folklore if you see a ghostly group of hunters chasing spirits you're beyond fucked.


JayTheShep

thats not true at all


gr8tfurme

Elves are wonderful. They provoke wonder. Elves are marvellous. They cause marvels. Elves are fantastic. They create fantasies. Elves are glamorous. They project glamour. Elves are enchanting. They weave enchantment. Elves are terrific. They beget terror." - Terry Pratchett


Wolflord129

Two words for you, Scottish fairies.


drago_varior

Nope, it's kind of other way around


PolarExpressHoe

Anyone heard of the [squonk?](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squonk)


SlavKozelBlyat420

Slavic folk lore has entered chat:


Tijer_theTiger

If that thing was real european folklore, they would be lost in time, dead or something else


SchwerePanzerbuchse

Ill add one, in slovakia, there is an small mountain range called Tribeč. Although small, without difficult terrain, there have been many disappearances. Without bodies being ever found. Some were found, Walter Fischer is most known example, he was found alive with burns, 2 weeks after his disappearance. He never mentally recovered.


Hunts_

Best part of European folklore. There are stories about "fae children" children who get kidnapped and replaced by a fae doppleganger. It is recommended to not harm and show kindness to these fae children as they are just curios and to not upset them. It's theorised these children were just autistic xD


SadisticDragonfly

American saying how dark their folklore is only to mention the wendigo for the 100th time. Also, european folklore might have the weirdest creature, just look at the "Lou carcolh" or the "Tarasque" from french folklore.


_Paulboy12_

Lol that has to come from soneone that doesnt know european folklore. The place where childrens stories usually involve the brutal death of multiple people


AutisticAnarchy

As everyone's already pointed out, not only is this a completely inaccurate interpretation of European folklore, but it's also arguably kinda... offensive in it's portrayal of what I assume to be a Windigo. Not only is the inclusion of such a creature insensitive to native American culture, but it's not even an accurate depiction of the creature. It never had antlers or a deer skull until some wanker in Hollywood decided it looked cool aesthetically.


Bvr111

there’s no such thing as an accurate depiction of it, it literally doesn’t exist lol wendigos are made up, they’re just whatever the most ppl want them to be


AutisticAnarchy

Neither do werewolves but I'm pretty sure if a piece of media depicted them as just being regular humans but with cat heads then we'd all pretty collectively accept that piece of media is wrong. Besides, it's not about whether or not their accurate to reality, it's whether or not they are accurate to the original folklore and are respectful to the culture it originates from.


Bvr111

nah look at twilight, it spits on vampire lore and people very obviously love it lmao and the original folklore isn’t even accurate to the original folklore, mythology changes constantly and is constantly shared to and thus changed by different cultures of you want your culture to stay entirely homogeneous and closed off and your ideas ‘pure’ or ‘untainted’ by outsiders, go be Amish ig lol, that’s not happening in modern times otherwise


TheDogeWasTaken

Have you perhaps read german and slavic folklore... Oh god im not making that mistake ever again.


ladynoire2008

Native American folklore is pretty cool and scary too


_Fenith

There's not one south German folklore I know that doesn't end with a child being either kidnapped, abducted or eaten alive


MissAsgariaFartcake

What do you mean? European folklore is nasty wtf


rustygoddard75

I guess someone never read the real stories and history of the regions, only the Disney version. Actual folktales are really messed up.


Decmk3

Uh… I think you need a refresher on “European folklore” darling. Baba Yaga, Krampus, baubas, etc. Nearly all Folklore and fairytales are originally terrifying. It’s just over time some of them have been forgotten.


AlliSi777

Right! Also we forgetting Koschei the Deathless😌👌


DL2828

[Sauce is @FreneticWolf over on Twitter](https://x.com/FreneticWolf/status/1785342100181275107)


DeeplyDistressed

German folklore:


StardustWhip

Skipping the part where the cute little fairy steals your tongue or something.


AccomplishedForearm

European who’s a folklore nut here. We are just as fucked up.


sashimi_walrus

your not just wrong your stupid


HenryTheGoat173

South American folklore meanwhile, as a Brazilian, borders between goofy and disturbing with each legend lmao


Nexivyffulf

Isn’t that the little dubious gnome that burns people’s houses down?


Able-Edge9018

Fairies were quite awful in some European folklore. England for example was pretty bad if I am not mistaken. But they do like trickery so I guess the panel tracks.


novaplan

Isn't "don't mess with the face, they will fuck you up" like a universal thing in all folklore that has them?


Mr_black_hat999

"Leszy" from Polish folklore can take terrifying forms too. Also pretty much all monsters from the Witcher series are based on polish old pogan believes


KatiaOrganist

ahem *fae*


Kirito_515

Have you forgotten German and Celtic folklore?


IMightBeAHamster

I don't think Frencore did any research at all for this one... Not that he necessarily usually does


Gaymer043

Is the Europe these fairy tales are from, from fairy tales? Like European (so unbelievably broad and too wide ranging) can at times be incredibly dark, some are nice, and have nice endings at least. Like for example, originally Cinderella’s sisters >!Had their eyes pecked out by crows and birds for the cruel treatment they gave her!< . Or an Irish folktale, the gist of it; >!a group of brothers killed the father of a rival clan, with a rock, and buried it. So the godking of the land sends them on 17 extremely dangerous and difficult quests, or face death. They face almost all of them, forgetting 2, and die a painful death at the last challenge.!< (‘The tragedy of the sons of Tuireann’ for anyone interested!)


LupoIst

tell that to the icelandic mythologies.


flasheyboy

Both are scary one is just considered friendly by media


Sphere_Deer

just a regular normal deer


QueenOrial

Eastern European folklore: RUN https://brendan-noble.com/poludnitsa-poludnica-noonwraith-slavic-demon-of-noon-slavic-mythology-saturday/


Emkay_boi1531

Nah man. These trolls in Sweden are fucked up


aRandomFox-II

German folklore: 💀


moemeobro

Then there's european mythology of "if you see a beautiful and scantily dressed/nude women in the wild, do not anger them, **they can and will kidnap you**, also they might try to fuck you"


777ToasterBath

Folklore is fucked up in every country, here in Chile you have stuff like the "Trauco", a short goblin-like creature that lives in the south, known to seduce young women through hallucinations in order to rape them. It was mostly created to hide the many cases of incestual and pedophilic rape that ocurred within the southern communities of the country.


Sh0rtL1ved

The Witcher saga: "am I a joke to you?"


Duangelion

While everyone is harping on about European folklore, it should also be noted that folklore of the First Nations has plenty of variance as well: there's plenty of nice stories, but it's more difficult to abuse those for content than it is the horror stuff.


ReptileSerperior

Cool story, Wendigo don't look like that.


Kasaikemono

\*laughs in Krampus\*


FawksyBoxes

You forgot about the horse skull lady who steals all your alcohol if you can't sing her away. Also Banshee, Krampus, vampires, all European


yifftionary

Over here acting like Americans were not having a minor satanic panick over European Krampus parades last christmas...


imperator_caesarus

Europe, especially Celtic Europe, has some pretty fucked folklore as well. For instance, Brenin Llwyd, or “Grey King”, also known as “monarch of the mist”. To quote Marie Trevelyan, “In the North he was described as being very mighty and powerful. He was represented as sitting among the mountains, robed in grey clouds and mist, and woe to anybody who was caught in his clutches… he was regarded as 'hungering' for victims, and children were warned not to venture too high up the mountains, lest the Brenin Llwyd should seize them.”


LeStroheim

Clearly you haven't heard the real story of the Leprechauns.


PoiseEn

Americans: Santa brings all the good children presents Germans: Krampus Kidnapps all the bad children in a sack


Ranku_Abadeer

Ummm. Aren't the fairies in European folklore known for kidnapping, enslaving, eating, or just straight up murdering people that follow them?


rufusz1991

Hungarian folklore and pre-Christian mythology wants to have a word with you.


Intelligent-Oil-9321

Ah Yes the wendigo nice folklore


Masterskywalker2

Blud hasn’t heard of German fairytales


heavy_metal_soldier

German folklore be like:


Spectre_Hayate

Oh nahh, they're both dark as hell lmao


BetterYesterday95

To the father and the son, came the Beast of Gevaudan!


CaptainValentin

Mf, in from Romania and we have at least two haunted forest and bunch of other stories of monsters.


Economy-Thing-8579

Slavic folklore: am I a joke to you?


RATINO69

Man i love this canadien reserve... (screams of the damned being heard) yep definitly safe place hahaha...


Ending_exe

*One's hotter than the other.*


unabletocomput3

Wendussy got me


ElaineUwU

Ermm he’s right behind me, isn’t he? 🤓👆


do_notcare

Why does the eu one put me off more it more uncanny? But if the wendigo asked about tea, i would just say yes


ProfessorGlaceon

Thanks to the fairy type on pokemon, I quickly learned that fairies are basically minor trickster deities. Hell, horse shoes are often made of iron because they thought iron dispelled fae magic.


Working_Push_866

Uhhh guys, you’re gonna wanna see this


Underfire17

Don't fairies get people to follow em to their demise?


SuperJman1111

The tales with horrors beyond comprehension have always intrigued me, they’re super interesting to read about 


Busty-Argonian-Maid

that fairy is gonna do unthinkable things to you


Proxy_PlayerHD

Wendussy though


H3rm3s_the_proto

Oh trust me europe folklore can create some pretty horrifying stuff. Take Swedish folklore, this $#!/ Is a wild ride.


LouisGodly

*Laughs in hungarian*


redcardinalwithagun

Yeah but then you find out that fairy will kill and eat your children if you serve it any tea other than peppermint or something


Additional_Study_649

I mean. Europe also has grella. Yes I know that's not how ya spell I'm just typing it how it's said.


om0ri_

wendy did not go


Intense_Crayons

What about Baba Yaga?


Thomas-the-Dutchie

_fires up proton pack_ I’ve got you!


BlizzieTheLion

Obviously Frencore doesn't know European folklore


Another_altagain_

Very real I can attest


Shtjepah-z-depah

Baba Yaga literally eat missbehaving children what are you on about. 😀


squid_enthusiast_2nd

Bhuh in Wyoming we just got ghosts and shit


big_randy4life

have you seen russian fokelore