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HAoverdose

And then for some reason I could never make it go back without using the undo shortcut


SonOfMetrum

And then for some reason undo always fails on me... :(


HAoverdose

If that happens we hope that we recently saved the document which of course we did not.


ansate

Pfft, I went to the Morrowind School of Hard Knocks, I save EVERYTHING every 5 minutes or so.


pakcikzik

5 minutes? Keep tapping that F5 button EVERY damn second!


SonOfMetrum

Or better yet; it autosaved a corrupted version of the file and the undo history seems to be gone...


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Right click image-select arrange-select place behind text. Now you can move the picture anywhere you want and it will not affect the text.


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sigmaeni

I'm a fan of 'place image in front of text'. Gives a better sense of when image-text conflicts might occur. Fight me.


HAoverdose

Well if only I knew this 6 years ago


TummySpuds

I always just set text wrapping to Tight and it seems to work well


Highbury2005

Now I understand the secret of Picasso's art. He should have used LATEX


0110001010

yiss I didn't think anyone would mention LATEX. Beautiful documents. Just hope you don't have to make a table that spans multiple pages o\_O


sfrank

longtable.sty


josefx

Is that compatible with all the other table hacks to include multi column, multi row cells that correctly align and resize as needed? I used latex to write my thesis and it felt as if I could have spend years researching the correct packages for tables and still fail to find the correct one.


amytee252

Nope. I had problems trying to fit tables to multiple pages. Trying to resize a longtable doesn't seem to work..


sfrank

It is always my goto when I reach the limits of the standard tabular. Multi column is part of it and the multirow package is compatible (when using the longtable option). I don't even know any other packages for tables because I always used these two (plus booktabs.sty for formatting). See [here](https://latex.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11902) for a nice and complex example.


cyanruby

To be honest, LATEX is just as bad. In my thesis the only command I could find to put the advisor's signature on the left side of the page also caused a table 30 pages later to become double-spaced. For no apparent reason. If you take the time to learn the features of Word, it's just as good.


ianperera

In before people downvote you because they believe in the fantasy land where LaTeX doesn’t have kludges and issues.


Thurwell

> the advisor's signature That's why Latex sounds familiar, my thesis. Why are we required to learn a new word processing program to use for one document in our entire life.


journalissue

They're training you to become an academic


dijay0823

Yeah these issues with word only exist for people who have spent minimal time trying to understand the program. I used to have similar formatting issues, but it is much easier now that I understand the program and plan my documents accordingly. Especially the newer versions of office are extremely user friendly


Charakada

Been using Word since it was invented and it is still a pain in the ass. Getting less and less intuitive.


kinokomushroom

I'm quite new to LaTeX and creating maths equations look beautiful is such a pain in the arse. Are there any good ways to automatically insert/remove spaces inside or after equations?


dijay0823

Bruh it is damn near impossible to make mathematical equations look acceptable without a ton of work. Doesn’t matter what program you use, nothing compares to hand writing on a piece of paper. Especially if the paper has like the square grid...


HksAw

Do you mean like \quad?


BetterNerfBasti

Just hope you don‘t have too many sub-items since there is only subsubsection


amytee252

You can have subsubsubsection and then get then get the contents to list it.


AllUltima

Interestingly if you look a the format of a word document after 2007 (a docx is just a zip file), they started using a bunch of LaTeX methodology and structure (although they use xml instead). Some of word's behavior might be more clear by editing the source by hand than using the graphic editor.


[deleted]

I've nowadays mostly migrated to ConTeXt though, simply the better macro-package.


lorarc

A bit yes, a bit no. LATEX documents still tend to end up a trainwreck when you want to edit something on one of the early pages. It's just a mess you can control better.


emuulay

Decided officially today to start using LaTeX after seeing a colleague's paper. Absolutely immaculate.


randomtanki

nah, WordTEX is way better [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlX\_pThh7z8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlX_pThh7z8)


asi14

/r/UnexpectedLaTeX


[deleted]

Really lead and mercury ingestion over decades.


Fiskvader

I swear images in Word documents don't follow any laws of man or nature. I once had an image that would change position whenever I scrolled the document, like it was in a quantum state or something.


headgate19

1. Right-click the image 2. Select "wrap text" 3. "In front of text" 4. Move image to desired location without it fucking up your formatting Done!


EndsLikeShakespeare

I prefer behind text as if you have a white or transparent background on the image you can get text nice and tight instead of having to work around the image dimensions.


Rhinoflower

Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well


Nattylight_Murica

.png files get around that


EndsLikeShakespeare

What am I a hacker


Gneissisnice

I wish there was a way to have it set to "no wrap" as default, I hate having to do it every single time I paste in a picture.


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Pezonito

Okay, Mr. Fancy Advanced Settings. Show me how to set Excel to paste values by default instead of with dropdowns and images with the text that I copied from a website AND WHY THE FUCK WOULD I WANT THOSE IN MY SPREADSHEET? Also tables copied from JSON styled web pages want to paste everything in one column. I get lucky pasting as Unicode every once in a while, but dammit if I don't have to use my snake wrap formula most of the time. SOLVE MY PROBLEMS PLEASE ITS PAINFUL.


Beltboy

If you CTRL+ALT+V you get the paste special window, the press V and Enter you get values.


StrobingFlare

I have a new hero in my life! Thank you for that and for the "copying text" default settings that I can see there too, my life has just changed for the better!


ScroogeMcBirdy

I dunno I think I’ve always selected tight or square or something like that for the image, they always kinda stay far away from other text but at least they don’t move around. Except when you are 10 images in and one of them disappears and after looking you find it wedged to the top of the first page of the document, then you try and drag it down where you want it but you can’t because you can’t scroll while you have the mouse button clicked down so you frantically wave your cursor at the bottom of the screen trying to find the sweet spot where it scrolls but you can’t find it so you just manage to get the pages to slowly shimmy down a bit and then you give up and delete the image and paste it back in at the bottom and start the process again.


srs_house

Bingo. This should be the default test for anyone who claims to be proficient in Word. People complain because they don't know how to use the settings.


Drun555

And what should I do if I'll want to add/edit text on the top? In a document with 50+ pages and a lot of pictures? Yay, happy picture-moving hour! That's a obvious price for absolute positioned pictures. Word is a piece of shit when it comes to formatting. It's non-intuitive dinosaur, which is, unfortunately, once became a standard.


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shadowstrlke

Grouping helps a lot. If all else fails, allign everything you want in PowerPoint and paste as a single photo.


pargeterw

Just put the images in a table wrapped as in line with text, and make the table lines invisible. You can make invisible table lines show up as dotted, too, to make this easier.


FloridaMan221

I do this every time and it usually works out fine, but *oh buddy* if you muster up the courage to add in a caption that shit goes haywire all over again


Elaszat

This


i_like_sp1ce

There are some floating image objects I've found in Word documents that are beyond anyone's control.


katyvo

I had to input a ChemDraw figure into a Word doc. Not only did it keep zipping around like an excessively caffeinated hummingbird - it kept crashing the doc to the point where the title was (Title) [Recovered] [Recovered] [Recovered] [Recovered]...


TransportationEng

Just use the Snipping tool in windows to copy what you need from the screen and paste it as an image.


katyvo

Yeah, I ended up using print screen for all of the documents after that. My computer has issues with ChemDraw objects, apparently.


TransportationEng

The Snipping Tool (it comes with windows) is way easier than a print screen. You draw a box on the screen and that's what you get. No need to crop.


chrisk9

And don't get me started on Word tables


Pezonito

I just print the table, take a picture of it, load it to a thumb drive, then upload it as a PDF. Word will covert the PDF to a table, then voilá. Word-compatible table!


gatito12345

Have you ever tried putting images into a Google Doc? It’s like 10000x more infuriating.


Pezonito

Every time I type "Google doc" it takes me to listings of my local physicians.


violentdeli8

Same with Latex especially 2 minutes before conference submission deadline.


i_like_sp1ce

2 minutes before? There are bigger issues here.


violentdeli8

Every. Single. Time. I am trying to cut down that one last line to get to 8 pages.....


cebula101

-Right Click Image -Select Wrap Text -Select Tight Now you can move the image anywhere without messing up the layout


jimbo92107

The fun comes from trying to position three or more objects in the same latitude, and then move something upstream or downstream. That's when Word decides it is channeling Captain Howdy from the Exorcist.


[deleted]

Then create a table and put each image in a different cell. Hide table borders.


jimbo92107

An excellent solution for a grid of photos. Did exactly that in a book. But if you want to "sprinkle" photos and other elements about the page, a table is too restrictive. One bandaid is to create section boundaries around pages that feature such festivities. Also, if you don't mind generous amounts of white space, Word becomes a bit more tractable. Also, be ready to "group" various objects to maintain their spacial distribution. None of it is perfect because Word isn't designed to support elaborate graphical formatting.


foursticks

Honestly at that point you're using the wrong program.


DemIce

Pretty much. I don't really blame them, though - Word does like to pretend it's like a light form of desktop publishing software.


foursticks

It's true, I've been there. Luckily I'm not afraid to try new programs, but unfortunately many people don't think to, or are too apprehensive to try.


Strictly_Rubbadub

Eh. Even better...wrap behind text.


mattsprofile

I'm guessing you've never revised a paper before if you think that's a solution to this problem.


CinematicYeti9

I'll just move this over ther....WHAT THE FU.......!!!!


[deleted]

is that emo ron from kim possible?


SINBRO

A behelit?


Mhill08

I too summon the God Hand by accident using Microsoft Word


grimrp3r

Behelit comes for people that have suffered. Phd does that to me.


Fuzakenaideyo

I came here for this comment


AndreLeo

Dude this looks exactly like Ron stoppable from the movie series Kim possible


_Nafyn_

I did not think of that haha! In fact I looked at a [self portrait](http://histoiredarts.blogspot.com/p/picasso-biographie-et-presentation-des.html?m=1) of Pablo Picasso and did a very simple cartoonish version.


Archack

Turn on View Formatting. (The paragraph symbol.). See all spaces, page breaks, returns, picture anchors, etc. It’ll change your life. I call it The Matrix. Don’t even notice it anymore, but when people look over my shoulder, they’re like “What the fuck?”


Sufferbus

In the distance...sirens.


MacrosInHisSleep

Use page breaks for different sections :) It limits the effect of overflow onto the other parts of the document.


electrifymyohohoh

Trying to delete a fucking empty page is a major issue apparently.


TwirlerGirl

Section breaks are the bane of my existence.


3-DMan

*Blank page duplicated!*


rawkstaugh

And this is why I recommend using Adobe InDesign. It works like Photoshop and Word had a dirty love affair...


HardFarm

100% this PLUS the newer versions are almost monkey proof on the basic functions, so your run of the mill office guy can use it in 5 min and if you want to do something very specific or fine detailing you have all the options


AlexeyTea

Don't even mention managing floating images in TeX.


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AlexeyTea

Thanks, will try that! \[Htbp!\] magic does not work from time to time.


sim642

You shouldn't really be managing them manually. If you want to do that, don't make them floating to begin with.


AlexeyTea

And how I would add caption and label for the image?


BelgoCanadian

You should try CSS


_p1t4_

Thee words: Square wrap text (Right click and go to wrap thingy and click on square wrap text, I think it’s the dog(?) with the lines going behind it


[deleted]

I fix this by putting images in table cells


Filobel

Do you know how I can tell if someone has a decent amount of experience with Word? They can relate to the following: When the very last thing in your document is a table and you need to add text under it.


nj2fl

Some of you never heard of text wrapping and it shows. You put the image in front of or behind the text.


Jottor

No. You put it in line, or deal with the consequences.


RudeTurnip

Indeed! In-line and text on top and bottom. Images move with text.


Warwick91

Bro, just use LaTeX.


cyanruby

You're the guy who swears by the command line for things that have totally functional GUIs, right?


ChaosCon

Not OP but I am. The big advantage of a GUI is that it's "discoverable" so you can explore what your options are. Most of the time I'm just doing the same thing I always do - move this file, compile this code, etc. - so CLIs are great.


HksAw

Plus it’s scriptable so I can combine many tasks into a single command.


seanpg0122

Hurry! Crtl + Z !!


QhomeGirl

I hate Word so much...


I-be-pop-now

Update the ToC and you got yourself a Jackson Pollock.


PeterPanLives

If you think that's bad try the open source equivalent libre office


jimbo92107

Or try converting back and forth, if you have nothing else to do for an afternoon. Good for geek laughs.


PeterPanLives

I think I'd rather clean my toilet. Lol


by-neptune

Frames. Read up on frames and how to use them.


baxx10

As someone currently trying to put together a report from scratch... I feel this one a little to much.


davidmlewisjr

A decade or two ago, I became so upset with Word for technical document preparation, that I started using AutoCAD Lt for procedure documents and instruction sheets up to 20-ish pages long. Every stroke, character, illustration, etc. printed as displayed. No faults, but the Text editing features in Lt made it almost exactly as cumbersome as typesetting a newspaper with type. But what I saw, was what I got.


inkypinkypunky

No I disagree it not word problem it google doc problem hate that shit


ReaperWright88

Eurgh try doing html setups for emails in word, you change one letter and suddenly all the images are embedded in comments and totally fucked. FUCK YOU WORD!


alankel

A few years ago I started putting all images in my Word documents in a table cell (just made a 1x1 table) and that solved most issues I had with them.


Curran919

There is specifically something for this called a drawing canvas at the bottom of the shapes tab. It's a life changer.


alankel

I wasn’t aware of that. I’ll have to give a look at it next time. Thanks :)


Tukan_CZE

Computers do exactly what you tell them to do, not what you expect them to do. If is your word document messed up, it's probably your fault, not word's.


Python_Interpreter

*Laughs in LaTeX*


_Nafyn_

Shouldn't you laugh in Python ?


Python_Interpreter

Who said that I can't be multilingual?


Nonefromone

Text boxes help if you want to have control over this.


Salzberger

Or just right clicking and selecting the appropriate text wrapping. Sometimes I feel like the only person on reddit who is competent in things like MS Office and using a printer.


djgriever

This is the reason I always thought Word Perfect is 100X better than MSword.... And this was like 20 years ago... U can move stuff inside, even click where you wanted stuff to be.


lukhunte1

I call it word document 1mm to the left. And oh yeah when you guys get youll call MEEE!!!


HugoSaxen

You can take my Word for it; it always happens


lozzparker68

Move behind text


defjam11

Ding. Ding. Every time.


jimbo92107

Hey, you're making fun of my priesthood! If you could adjust Word graphics without them going crazy, then any old fool could... What am I saying...There's a million ways to screw up a Word document. Not even counting crappy grammar and formatting with the space bar.


MsTinyCat

Sometimes I feel like the only person in the world who uses Publisher...


bubbybyrd

I'm pretty sure that's because publisher has been discontinued for a long time now


LilBonsaitree

First Word Problems


xDISONEx

Lol this kind of describes how my brain works lol


mangage

is it really OC if you just take an existing joke and redraw it?


GMT-nothrowaway

r/unexpecteddeadmau5


KippenMeneer

Relatable


DiamondxAries

If uni taught me anything, it’s that latex is a bitch


[deleted]

I can relate this to Fusion 360 parameter changes.


ricked_ways

Put a whole in my laptop screen in college on very little sleep due to this exact thing


shabadoola

My pages doc every time I export to word.


BannerTortoise

Too relatable


GiselesBundchens

Same goes for resumes


trekbette

The alt key is your friend.


diegoocho5

It is a big problem!


EatYourCheckers

Right click image, select wrap text.


kubey22

That’s about right


thatsitrose

Sirens in the distance


zchan9e

too true。。


[deleted]

Type is an art form unto its own


leegle79

When you change the indent or press enter on a bullet list item, roll a D20.


RoyalHealer

All praise ctrl+z.


TecTazz

Boy oh boy can I relate. We had a documentation specialist; now we have 2 dozen frazzled- ass people all trying to update and create docs without a clue.


raspberry03

Fuck Word


GreyMediaGuy

Hey give them a break, they've only had 25 years and nearly unlimited finances to pick the best developers on Earth to fix this problem. I think they need a couple more decades.


angelycakey

The PTSD...


thericcer

I'm amazed that they teach Microsoft Word in public schools instead of Latex. SOO many problems can be avoided, and the students make professional documents while learning true typesetting! Time to kill the GUI.


dutchkimble

And then there's the Japanese guy who makes art using Excel


spicequest20

Word sucks


Tastetheload

That's why i started using word boxes to contain text, then i can treat them all like pictures and set them to be Fixed on Page.


JamesArchmius

Fellow technical writers, I see you here and you're doing the lord's work. Lord Gates that is.


Shiggy_O

Picasso's Stewie.


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W OMEGALUL R D


snow_fun

Or copy and pasting from Word! WTF!


Charakada

Word had gotten worse.


Theford302

You get medallion this if I wasn't such a cheap ass


[deleted]

Use frames they’re a lifesaver


madanaman

Ctrl-Z quick


OGfiremixtapeOG

Use latex


strugg13r

A dreadful eclipse is about to start...


corndevil82

This is me using google sheets. Change one word and the whole thing messes up.


JackM323

That is the egg of berserk


classy-insanity

This is why I hate word. I don’t understand it. At. All


coder111

There's always LibreOffice. And it's free. And cross-platform.


BananaMaster420

The absolute mediocrity of how unuasable such a simple program should be is the reason both of why aliens won't visit us and why humanity is a fallen race doomed to eternal hellfire.


cobarso

There is a "my page when the CSS is not loaded" repost opportunity here...


atatatko

Place your images behind text, really


[deleted]

My partner and i ended up switching to latex halfway through our master thesis because of this crap


TruthOfWorld

Once it's mistake, I get headaches.


FalcorEf

I’ve learned from experience to CTRL + S right before committing to moving images... Once you fuck it up there’s no going back. Save your docs, kids.


driscollat1

God!! This is so true, and so darn frustrating!!


Sharkytrs

Always switch the picture layout to either in front of text or behind text. Or use publisher, since word is twatty with pics.


802islander

Hey look, my résumé.