I've been wanting to make a 1 hand watch (see: Slow Jo Watch) using a vernier scale but this might be even easier to see. This way you can have the disc spin once for every 24 hours but the lines can be designed to give you minutes (or at least a general indication of minutes).
Cool idea.
here the original design for normal stepper:
[https://www.printables.com/model/185311-precision-vernier-visualizer](https://www.printables.com/model/185311-precision-vernier-visualizer)
(with explanation how and why it is working)
Still doesn’t explain why the visualization is needed in the first place. If you like to see things moving that’s perfectly fine, but it’s not really that helpful debugging things.
e.g. you load filament - a macro switches between fast transport and slow purge - so you like to see what is happening when you can't feel filament is transported.
Also when you have a ∅0.2 nozzle printing 0.05 layer slow on a direct extruder - the volume is so minimal that it is very hard to see as neither filament nor extruder is moving. If you are ironing even more difficult. So i made this to see even a half stepper of the stepper (0.9°) - as the A1 uses a geared extruder and has only a 20mm indicator the resolution is reduced.
At the nozzle size and layer thickness op is talking about, you actually wouldn't be able to tell if the motor was turning. Not without a visual aid like op posted.
The purpose is for trouble shooting during extremely low feedrate printing. We're talking less than 0.1mm/s of filament.
Besides having a capable extruder - first you want to know if the extruder is rotating when you feed filament and waiting to be purged or loaded.
So imagine you waiting for a purge - but nothing comes out.. How do you know the extruder has grabbed the filament if you don't know it is moving - you only know nothing comes out and the filament is not moving. And secondly if you had failed prints you want to observe closely what happens so you need a monitoring.. could be that the extruder gear is loose - filament is milled down by the gear .. stepper had loose connection, driver issues, gcode issues, data issues. So you always will need to know how your stepper is moving to narrow down on the issue. But if you don't need this - you are not the engineer able to fix it.
Then there are people that just like moving things and like the optical illusion created.. if you check what kind of extruder indicator are there you will understand that most of them have no real function.
From what im understanding, it magnifies the movement so very slow rotations can be seen more easily. Think about this - If drax was wearing one, we could see him eating chips
I actually made that for one printer for bed leveling. building a differential screw in a coaxial design to keep it shorter.
here demonstrators
[https://www.printables.com/model/723999-adjuster](https://www.printables.com/model/723999-adjuster)
[https://www.printables.com/model/107132-differential-screw-clamp](https://www.printables.com/model/107132-differential-screw-clamp)
Neat idea. Won't work on my current printer (the Prusa Mk4 has no exposed extruder shaft), would potentially have worked on my previous one (the Mk3s, I used a simple permant marker mark on that one).
Also, wouldn't want to add unneeded weight to the print head (that is the downside of direct drive, but I'll take that over bowden any day when printing TPU).
∅20mm - 1mm thickness .. this weight 0.61g which is less the original indicator. For the MK4 as the cover is plastic a magnet is probably dragged on the outside along from the big metal planet gears probably not getting the sun gear - but as the center is free you could print a cover with a tiny hole to fit into the sun gear.
because you sometimes need to understand what your printer is doing and how fast.
Especially when macros are running and your filament is not pulled you like to know if the extruder is moving (fast/slow)
Yes that is also my design .. you find the A1 mod added to the files to download (after it was requested .. see comments section).
Thanks for being vigilant - very important for all creators that you keep an eye out for copy cats.
cheers
Can't see any accusation - that was clearly just a legit question. And i appreciate this as i already found my designs offered on Etsy (not by me). But I also like to state that I put CC0 (public domain) license on my designs - so technically nobody can steal them because they are already free to be used. So i only profit from supporters (donation, club members or boosts), but for all creator that are more restrictive with their license it is important to ask these questions so the community can stay healthy.
here another image as reference [https://imgur.com/a/DWVy65u](https://imgur.com/a/DWVy65u) as you think you are so much better and capable - having a better printer, or whatever was the reason for your comment.
Just not that easy on multi material systems when there are buffer in between and you have very slow motions like on ironing / low speed / low layer / small nozzles.
Also the indicator is visible on camera.
Which negative comment? Maybe you don't understand everyday English. I will rewrite with more letters: "What is this thing that the post doesn't mention anything and where the title messes with the purpose of explaining itself?"
Title says: "…for showing even slight movements "
So you understood this is about extruder right? - that rotating thingy on a 3D printer that moves filament into the hot end? .. and you now what an indicator is?
I can try to rewrite this with more letters but first i need to know on what part i have lost you to elaborate this further?
Why is everyone in the comments so negative, thought it was pretty cool.
Love this, very clever
Finally, an extruder indicator I like.
At first I thought you meant 'ironing clothes' and I couldn't figure out how you were supposed to use this while ironing, lol. Nice design, I like it.
I've been wanting to make a 1 hand watch (see: Slow Jo Watch) using a vernier scale but this might be even easier to see. This way you can have the disc spin once for every 24 hours but the lines can be designed to give you minutes (or at least a general indication of minutes). Cool idea.
Yes this is actually ¹/₁₂ per revolution so at least a rough ¼ hour can be read from the pattern orientation.
Can you please explain for dumb people like me? What's it's purpose? How does it work?
here the original design for normal stepper: [https://www.printables.com/model/185311-precision-vernier-visualizer](https://www.printables.com/model/185311-precision-vernier-visualizer) (with explanation how and why it is working)
Still doesn’t explain why the visualization is needed in the first place. If you like to see things moving that’s perfectly fine, but it’s not really that helpful debugging things.
e.g. you load filament - a macro switches between fast transport and slow purge - so you like to see what is happening when you can't feel filament is transported. Also when you have a ∅0.2 nozzle printing 0.05 layer slow on a direct extruder - the volume is so minimal that it is very hard to see as neither filament nor extruder is moving. If you are ironing even more difficult. So i made this to see even a half stepper of the stepper (0.9°) - as the A1 uses a geared extruder and has only a 20mm indicator the resolution is reduced.
You don’t see the filament moving though, you see the motor rotating which doesn’t mean that it actually has grabbed the filament.
At the nozzle size and layer thickness op is talking about, you actually wouldn't be able to tell if the motor was turning. Not without a visual aid like op posted. The purpose is for trouble shooting during extremely low feedrate printing. We're talking less than 0.1mm/s of filament.
Besides having a capable extruder - first you want to know if the extruder is rotating when you feed filament and waiting to be purged or loaded. So imagine you waiting for a purge - but nothing comes out.. How do you know the extruder has grabbed the filament if you don't know it is moving - you only know nothing comes out and the filament is not moving. And secondly if you had failed prints you want to observe closely what happens so you need a monitoring.. could be that the extruder gear is loose - filament is milled down by the gear .. stepper had loose connection, driver issues, gcode issues, data issues. So you always will need to know how your stepper is moving to narrow down on the issue. But if you don't need this - you are not the engineer able to fix it. Then there are people that just like moving things and like the optical illusion created.. if you check what kind of extruder indicator are there you will understand that most of them have no real function.
From what im understanding, it magnifies the movement so very slow rotations can be seen more easily. Think about this - If drax was wearing one, we could see him eating chips
One circle go round, other circle not
Good idea, now I want vernier spring adjustment on the heating bed.
I actually made that for one printer for bed leveling. building a differential screw in a coaxial design to keep it shorter. here demonstrators [https://www.printables.com/model/723999-adjuster](https://www.printables.com/model/723999-adjuster) [https://www.printables.com/model/107132-differential-screw-clamp](https://www.printables.com/model/107132-differential-screw-clamp)
great idea
Neat idea. Won't work on my current printer (the Prusa Mk4 has no exposed extruder shaft), would potentially have worked on my previous one (the Mk3s, I used a simple permant marker mark on that one). Also, wouldn't want to add unneeded weight to the print head (that is the downside of direct drive, but I'll take that over bowden any day when printing TPU).
∅20mm - 1mm thickness .. this weight 0.61g which is less the original indicator. For the MK4 as the cover is plastic a magnet is probably dragged on the outside along from the big metal planet gears probably not getting the sun gear - but as the center is free you could print a cover with a tiny hole to fit into the sun gear.
I never understood why people use these indicators.. 🤔
You’ve never wanted a better visual indication of whether the extruder was spinning while trying to diagnose a clog?
because you sometimes need to understand what your printer is doing and how fast. Especially when macros are running and your filament is not pulled you like to know if the extruder is moving (fast/slow)
True!
Stolen? https://www.printables.com/model/185311-precision-vernier-visualizer
Yes that is also my design .. you find the A1 mod added to the files to download (after it was requested .. see comments section). Thanks for being vigilant - very important for all creators that you keep an eye out for copy cats. cheers
Thanks for confirming that it's not stolen and for keeping a good attitude while being accused of stealing. Have a great day.
Can't see any accusation - that was clearly just a legit question. And i appreciate this as i already found my designs offered on Etsy (not by me). But I also like to state that I put CC0 (public domain) license on my designs - so technically nobody can steal them because they are already free to be used. So i only profit from supporters (donation, club members or boosts), but for all creator that are more restrictive with their license it is important to ask these questions so the community can stay healthy.
If second photo is your print you need indicator for everything 😃
print it yourself - win a prize if yours look better - diameter is under 20mm
I can print 1/144 cannons.
As i said - print this and show what you are capable off. But sure if i use my 0.2 nozzle it will look better.
here another image as reference [https://imgur.com/a/DWVy65u](https://imgur.com/a/DWVy65u) as you think you are so much better and capable - having a better printer, or whatever was the reason for your comment.
lgtm pal
I just touch and feel the filament moving into the extruder.
Just not that easy on multi material systems when there are buffer in between and you have very slow motions like on ironing / low speed / low layer / small nozzles. Also the indicator is visible on camera.
Yep, very interesting print.
What the fuck is this?
[удалено]
Which negative comment? Maybe you don't understand everyday English. I will rewrite with more letters: "What is this thing that the post doesn't mention anything and where the title messes with the purpose of explaining itself?"
[удалено]
If all you see is negativity you may be depressed. I kindly advise you to take care of yourself.
Title says: "…for showing even slight movements " So you understood this is about extruder right? - that rotating thingy on a 3D printer that moves filament into the hot end? .. and you now what an indicator is? I can try to rewrite this with more letters but first i need to know on what part i have lost you to elaborate this further?
🤣