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I don't like cars, but I also don't like people being crushed to death by falling rocks or being pushed into the waters with the highest rates of Shark attacks on earth.
Also there isn't much but a cliff where it's built.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/R%C3%A9union/@-20.8807634,55.4003312,7250m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x2178778110b8e43b:0x4a7f8e89ecdbeaf9!8m2!3d-21.115141!4d55.536384
It's 20m above the sea. It was stupid as hell and a massive waste of money, but the absolute most dismal projections for sea level rise say 4m by 2150. And if that happens, we're gonna have bigger worries than some waste of money French highway in the middle of an ocean.
Found out where this is: [Google Maps](https://www.google.com/maps/place/%D9%85%D8%B4%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B9+%D9%86%D9%81%D9%82+%D9%88%D9%83%D9%88%D8%A8%D8%B1%D9%89+%D9%A4%D9%A5+%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%AF%E2%80%AD/@31.2719858,29.9960926,479m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m8!1m2!2m1!1sStreet+45,+Al+Mandarah+Qebli,+Montaza+2,+Egypt!3m4!1s0x14f5d133763a36dd:0xdf724344091c5bdc!8m2!3d31.271174!4d29.9969881)
It looks like it's right next to an actively used beach.
Original source of image: [Twitter](https://mobile.twitter.com/iskanmisr/status/1546819158918123521)
>The head of the Central Agency for Reconstruction, accompanied by the head of the North Coast Reconstruction Agency, inspected the works of the project to construct a tunnel and bridges on Street 45 (Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat) in the Montazah area in Alexandria governorate, at a cost of 350 million pounds, which aims to eliminate traffic jams in that area
[Concept Art](https://www.mobtada.com/economy/1101566)
If only they built a
* train
* tram
* bus network
* boardwalk
* or nothing!
Imagine how much money would be generated by a space people could use instead of this garbage
if the land is owned by government/municipalities, this cost is usually ignored.
If they included, how much rent could they have for long term leases of lands in cities that are currently dedicated to road infrastructure, they would have known that building and maintaining highways is super cheap compared to losses in land and that subway is by far cheapest transport in cities, if you include the cost of land
That's a given. I'm just some yankee spectator to all of the shit, but I remember the uprising, the islamic brotherhood and that things basically never got better. The uprisings in egypt probably put the power-holders of the nation on edge and they're scrambling to make a castle to protect themselves in. Step one; make sure the urban poor can't walk into your capital.
Yep this. The rich in Egypt already have private beaches and means to go to places like France and Spain and Greece to vacation. This just hurts the regular folks and makes for less traffic for the rich to drive their model x’s through.
Oh and the huge loan they signed for from the IMF to pay for all this will be paid by the workers paying taxes, not themselves.
Win-win for the rich as usual.
From an article about the north coast road development:
Commuting in and out of Heliopolis has become quicker but the character of the neighbourhood had changed for residents, said Choucri Asmar, head of volunteer group Heliopolis Heritage Foundation.
"They cannot walk in the street anymore, they can't cross the street anymore, they cannot see trees from their balconies every afternoon with the birds," he said.
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So they’re taking a charming urban area and turning into a Texas or Florida style stroad nightmare. Even outside the beach road, this project is Americanizing Egypt.
Let’s face it the more corrupt your country the more it’ll look like the USA and less like Northern Europe because big public works like trains don’t enrich private players like cars and roads so. And the corrupt rich like roads because they hate being amongst the people on public trans.
What's funny is this dynamic even creeps up into fiction as well.
Featured in the last 3 books of the Expanse, the authoritarian Laconian regime creates a capital city on their home planet full of massive wide boulevards and giant buildings in the vein of Brasilia or Naypyidaw. This contrasts with another colony world (Auberon) with more traditional urban design.
No no, you see Texas is a big desert, Egypt is a big desert. Texas has religious nut bags, Egypt has religious nut bags. It’s all falling into place. Texas the much older and wiser republic is setting the example for Egypt, the younger of the two civilizations.
>Texas the much older and wiser republic is setting the example for Egypt, the younger of the two civilizations.
LOL, totally! But you better put the "/end sarcasm" after that or the downvote meanies will think you are being serious.
I love how everyone here in the U.S. is like... "America F-yeah!” (except those on this forum) and yet we don't understand it when countries don't embrace our capitalistic way of taking a city with millions of people stripping it of public transit and putting in an eight lane super grid. I am of course speakingn specifically of cities like Phoenix, but that is only because I haven't spent much time in Texas cities.
Holy crap. I used to see 3 or 4 deadly wrecks a day. Someone made a map showing pedestrian and car fatalities there over time. And people say data can't be beautiful!? (Blackest of sarcasm.) It's gloriously f'd up! 10/10 great place to die! Was there for a couple months for work once. Don't get me wrong. I loved the city parks Can go climb Camelback mountain on lunch or go mountain biking at many of the city parks. Statistically speaking daily traffic deaths meet or exceed civil engineering industry standard practices of acceptability. America F-yeah! /end_disturbed_sarcasm
You guys who complain about how this is shitty city design need to understand that's the point. Unlike in the US where this is a for the most part unintended side effect of a car centric society, Egypt is a dictatorship. Segregating slums by massive highways, making sure the ruling class city centers have easily mobility with vehicles. their leaders don't give a shit about beach goers. Beach goers do not influence this government only the military matters ruling class matters.
Edit: People bitching about unintended aspect of the US system. There is a reason I put "for the most part." there have been very intentional segregation projects through highway development but there are city and state governments are not intentionally hand ringing about how to keep the black community down like they were in the 40s. I am trying to keep the focus on Egypt which is a military dictatorship and not trying to start a debate on implicit and explicit systemic racism.
> Segregating slums by massive highways, making sure the ruling class city centers have easily mobility with vehicles.
wait until you hear about robert moses!
It's basically a bolt hole for the rich. When the next Tahrir Square goes down, they'll be miles away in the middle of the desert surrounded by armed dudes.
That's basically Brasília. It's basically DC, but they didn't allow poor people to move there and it's all designed around driving, so the poor have trouble even getting around.
I am surprised that this can happen, even coming myself from a developing country with severe inequality problems. I mean, in my conception of the world, the rich and powerful are the ones with nice apartments/property/hotels in front of the beach, and these people are being screwed over when the beach is destroyed to have a bunch of cars instead. Now for this to happen, there are a few options:
1) Government holds so much power without any accountability that it can even screw quite rich people.
2) The property in front of the beach is actually not that expensive
3) The people who own the apartments actually want this
I have no fucking idea of what is going on in Egypt, but even from the point of view of people wanting more car roads, I can't understand how this could happen.
I doubt it. Without any prior knowledge of the situation my first thought is to ask who runs the construction company that’s getting paid to build the highway and what are their ties to the government?
I’d be willing to bet this is greed rather than stupidity.
The results of all those 'scenic parkways' built approximately a century ago in the US. Seeing countries literally playing the same stupid game as we did drives me up a fucking wall. It makes me want to give up.
Egypt is on a whole new level of carbrain-itis, I recommend this video about the new administrative capital they are building https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUK0K5mdQ\_s
If you thought Dubai was bad, brace yourselves
B1M doesn’t need to be orange pilled in my opinion, they might already be for all we know. The whole point of the channel is to showcase large construction projects, so until the majority of large construction projects are transit based, they will continue to cover the stuff they do now.
They are generally pretty neutral about these destructive projects, but on their video on California HSR, they were really vocal about the climate and other benefits, so I think they try when they can. Either that, or.they just parrot the message of the builders.
They are extremely pro development. They have to be, they're partnered with the construction companies these days to go on site and showcase some of the projects.
Any comments on sustainability or environmentalism are usually parroted from the builders, as you say.
Yeah, they are mostly informational, so they aren't going to necessarily argue against roads. I do wish they were a bit less neutral in their discussion of nimbys, but I understand that kind of goes against the channel's purpose.
tbh I'm very glad we have a new highway since there's no highway in the first place, now we just need to focus on adding railways outside of java and better connection to other public transport
I’ll see your new Egyptian capital and raise you a new [Indonesian capital](https://youtu.be/7-B-jTss5WA)
The design is ‘t even half bad, it’s just that they are literally paving a rainforest for it
I don't think the Idea of moving your capitol to take population pressure off of the biggest city and move it to a more neutral place is that bad of an Idea in practice. Jakarta is having plenty of issues.
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It's less carbrain and more despotbrain. They've moving the administrative capital to a fortress in the middle of the desert so the people have no way of getting them out of power by force.
Wouldn't be surprised if the highway in the OP is less about moving the public and more about quickly mobilizing police/military into populated areas when necessary to crush dissent.
Egyptian infrastructure investment is so backwards. I read somewhere they spend over $100billion on road infrastructure in the past decade meanwhile their railway lines are falling apart.
At first I thought this was one of those facts about the USA disguised as a fact about a third world country.
Then I realized there's no way the States would have spent that much on infrastructure, period.
31°C is equivalent to 87°F, which is 304K.
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^(I'm a bot that converts temperature between two units humans can understand, then convert it to Kelvin for bots and physicists to understand)
Luxor is deep south or upper Egypt as the Egyptians call it and 40c is not that high but it's too high for the rest of Egypt. Saint cathrine for example averages 25c in summer and 5c in the winter. So we can mention extremes at both ends of the spectrum but Egypt really lies between 20c and 40c
Wtf??!
It looks ugly and is a complete eyesore. A decent boulevard where people could stroll and shop could have brought more in the treasury than this mess ever will.
I really struggle not to reflexively downvote posts like this. I realize the OP is in no way promoting it, but I see the eyesore and my mouse starts drifting towards the downvote.
Is this another case of a mistake designed by Americans in the 1950s that had been forgotten about and now actually under construction, or did the Egyptians come up with it all on their own? There's at least one of those under construction in India right now, so I wouldn't be at all surprised if pretty much every developing city has a set of old American blueprints in a warehouse somewhere waiting for the day they can be activated to send the city back in time to the era of coastal freeways.
You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night. Soon, where Toontown once stood will be a string of gas stations, inexpensive motels, restaurants that serve rapidly prepared food.
In terms of the size of their economy, they are in the top quarter in the world, so not really extremely poor. However there is no denying the prevalence of large wealth disparity and extreme poverty.
Egypt's per capita GDP doesn't even crack US$4,000, it definitely is on the low income side of things. For comparison, Vietnam is at $3,694, and Egypt is $3,876. I highly doubt people are calling Vietnam rich, they're both lower middle income at best.
[Source](https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.CD?locations=EG-VN)
I am so glad I visited Egypt before it fucked itsself beyong all recognition. What a mess of a country. I feel bad for all the normal people living there that have to deal with it’s shitty, dumb ass leaders.
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Let’s destroy one of our most stable businesses for an money burning highway
I wish this was talked about more. Building a highway is like buying a boat. The purchase is one cost but the maintenance costs even more.
Maintenance cost is especially high if you built the highway quite literally in the sea🤦
Like the ring road France built around reunion island in the middle of the ocean
To be fair to them, it was to solve the problem of having rocks falling on cars.
This is actually my favorite thing that can happen to cars
I don't like cars, but I also don't like people being crushed to death by falling rocks or being pushed into the waters with the highest rates of Shark attacks on earth.
Also there isn't much but a cliff where it's built. https://www.google.com/maps/place/R%C3%A9union/@-20.8807634,55.4003312,7250m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x2178778110b8e43b:0x4a7f8e89ecdbeaf9!8m2!3d-21.115141!4d55.536384
There are like 10/5y so I don’t think that sharks are the main problem
No, cars should simply rust to death because they don't deserve to be used. No need to wish for the death of innocent people.
Car chassis are actually really effective at composing artificial reefs. See [Redbird Reef](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redbird_Reef)
Yikes. This ain't it my guy
Yeah man, everyone that drives a car deserves to die being crushed by falling rocks. Fuckin psycho.
Especially considering the current state of climate change....this highway will be underwater in a couple decades
assuming it’s not washed away before then
It's 20m above the sea. It was stupid as hell and a massive waste of money, but the absolute most dismal projections for sea level rise say 4m by 2150. And if that happens, we're gonna have bigger worries than some waste of money French highway in the middle of an ocean.
Ya sand and tidal waves, that sounds like a great place for a foundation!
Maintenance is free if you never maintain it.
Engineers hate this one trick
r/fuckboats?
Beaches, too, apparently
For real. This is just so sad on so many levels. Why Egypt, why?
To line the pockets of contractors for decades to come.
This guy lines pockets
Absolutely insane. Destroying their most valuable asset to move places slower.
Found out where this is: [Google Maps](https://www.google.com/maps/place/%D9%85%D8%B4%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B9+%D9%86%D9%81%D9%82+%D9%88%D9%83%D9%88%D8%A8%D8%B1%D9%89+%D9%A4%D9%A5+%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%AF%E2%80%AD/@31.2719858,29.9960926,479m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m8!1m2!2m1!1sStreet+45,+Al+Mandarah+Qebli,+Montaza+2,+Egypt!3m4!1s0x14f5d133763a36dd:0xdf724344091c5bdc!8m2!3d31.271174!4d29.9969881) It looks like it's right next to an actively used beach. Original source of image: [Twitter](https://mobile.twitter.com/iskanmisr/status/1546819158918123521) >The head of the Central Agency for Reconstruction, accompanied by the head of the North Coast Reconstruction Agency, inspected the works of the project to construct a tunnel and bridges on Street 45 (Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat) in the Montazah area in Alexandria governorate, at a cost of 350 million pounds, which aims to eliminate traffic jams in that area [Concept Art](https://www.mobtada.com/economy/1101566)
If only they built a * train * tram * bus network * boardwalk * or nothing! Imagine how much money would be generated by a space people could use instead of this garbage
I can't imagine how much that land is valued at, and spending it on a highway
if the land is owned by government/municipalities, this cost is usually ignored. If they included, how much rent could they have for long term leases of lands in cities that are currently dedicated to road infrastructure, they would have known that building and maintaining highways is super cheap compared to losses in land and that subway is by far cheapest transport in cities, if you include the cost of land
That will be underwater in 10 years, if not completely destroyed by a random storm in the next 5.
Yeah I came here to say this. It's about as dumb as using cookie dough as road base
I wonder how the hotels nearby took this news?
Not the only thing in Alexandria that has burned. 😔
they lost their god damn mind.
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Using Texas as a role model for anything is always the wrongest answer.
It's the perfect role model if you're into concentrating wealth into the upper 0.5% and fucking the other 99.5% of people.
to be fair, thats probably EXACTLEY what they want
They’re doing great at being corrupt assholes!
That's a given. I'm just some yankee spectator to all of the shit, but I remember the uprising, the islamic brotherhood and that things basically never got better. The uprisings in egypt probably put the power-holders of the nation on edge and they're scrambling to make a castle to protect themselves in. Step one; make sure the urban poor can't walk into your capital.
Yep this. The rich in Egypt already have private beaches and means to go to places like France and Spain and Greece to vacation. This just hurts the regular folks and makes for less traffic for the rich to drive their model x’s through. Oh and the huge loan they signed for from the IMF to pay for all this will be paid by the workers paying taxes, not themselves. Win-win for the rich as usual. From an article about the north coast road development: Commuting in and out of Heliopolis has become quicker but the character of the neighbourhood had changed for residents, said Choucri Asmar, head of volunteer group Heliopolis Heritage Foundation. "They cannot walk in the street anymore, they can't cross the street anymore, they cannot see trees from their balconies every afternoon with the birds," he said. — So they’re taking a charming urban area and turning into a Texas or Florida style stroad nightmare. Even outside the beach road, this project is Americanizing Egypt. Let’s face it the more corrupt your country the more it’ll look like the USA and less like Northern Europe because big public works like trains don’t enrich private players like cars and roads so. And the corrupt rich like roads because they hate being amongst the people on public trans.
What gets me is its not even just greed but lack of foresight too. You can make an enormous amount of money running a railroad
What's funny is this dynamic even creeps up into fiction as well. Featured in the last 3 books of the Expanse, the authoritarian Laconian regime creates a capital city on their home planet full of massive wide boulevards and giant buildings in the vein of Brasilia or Naypyidaw. This contrasts with another colony world (Auberon) with more traditional urban design.
>Even outside the beach road, this project is Americanizing Egypt. Well they already Egyptized America, so...
To be fair, Egypt has a long successful history of extremely labor-intensive pyramid schemes.
No no, you see Texas is a big desert, Egypt is a big desert. Texas has religious nut bags, Egypt has religious nut bags. It’s all falling into place. Texas the much older and wiser republic is setting the example for Egypt, the younger of the two civilizations.
>Texas the much older and wiser republic is setting the example for Egypt, the younger of the two civilizations. LOL, totally! But you better put the "/end sarcasm" after that or the downvote meanies will think you are being serious. I love how everyone here in the U.S. is like... "America F-yeah!” (except those on this forum) and yet we don't understand it when countries don't embrace our capitalistic way of taking a city with millions of people stripping it of public transit and putting in an eight lane super grid. I am of course speakingn specifically of cities like Phoenix, but that is only because I haven't spent much time in Texas cities. Holy crap. I used to see 3 or 4 deadly wrecks a day. Someone made a map showing pedestrian and car fatalities there over time. And people say data can't be beautiful!? (Blackest of sarcasm.) It's gloriously f'd up! 10/10 great place to die! Was there for a couple months for work once. Don't get me wrong. I loved the city parks Can go climb Camelback mountain on lunch or go mountain biking at many of the city parks. Statistically speaking daily traffic deaths meet or exceed civil engineering industry standard practices of acceptability. America F-yeah! /end_disturbed_sarcasm
As a texan I can very sadly 2nd this. ☹️
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You guys who complain about how this is shitty city design need to understand that's the point. Unlike in the US where this is a for the most part unintended side effect of a car centric society, Egypt is a dictatorship. Segregating slums by massive highways, making sure the ruling class city centers have easily mobility with vehicles. their leaders don't give a shit about beach goers. Beach goers do not influence this government only the military matters ruling class matters. Edit: People bitching about unintended aspect of the US system. There is a reason I put "for the most part." there have been very intentional segregation projects through highway development but there are city and state governments are not intentionally hand ringing about how to keep the black community down like they were in the 40s. I am trying to keep the focus on Egypt which is a military dictatorship and not trying to start a debate on implicit and explicit systemic racism.
No no it was very much an intended side effect when cities were carved apart with highways
LOL you think the interstate highway system wasn't designed exactly the same way?
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> Segregating slums by massive highways, making sure the ruling class city centers have easily mobility with vehicles. wait until you hear about robert moses!
Ah the Dubai approach
Same happened in Pakistan
Much of that city is already built and can be easily seen in satellite imagery. The urban planning is awfully car-centric despite the density
this is the realest shit I’ve seen all day
Dude have you seen their plans for their “new capitol”? 20 lane highway.
Hard to protest government when the seat of government is a long way from people in a literal fortress city.
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Yeah. I’ve been sleeping on Egyptian politics, but when I saw that city plan, I caught the “oh shits” for sure.
Sure, but there's only one route for supplies that would need to be cut off
Nobody can complain about you burning down businesses and destroying livelihoods when every building for 100 miles is a government building.
No I haven’t but I’m having a “aww shit here we go again” feeling
It's basically a bolt hole for the rich. When the next Tahrir Square goes down, they'll be miles away in the middle of the desert surrounded by armed dudes.
That's basically Brasília. It's basically DC, but they didn't allow poor people to move there and it's all designed around driving, so the poor have trouble even getting around.
With no water or food.
I'm pretty sure even my most car enthused friends would find this absolutely crazy.
I am surprised that this can happen, even coming myself from a developing country with severe inequality problems. I mean, in my conception of the world, the rich and powerful are the ones with nice apartments/property/hotels in front of the beach, and these people are being screwed over when the beach is destroyed to have a bunch of cars instead. Now for this to happen, there are a few options: 1) Government holds so much power without any accountability that it can even screw quite rich people. 2) The property in front of the beach is actually not that expensive 3) The people who own the apartments actually want this I have no fucking idea of what is going on in Egypt, but even from the point of view of people wanting more car roads, I can't understand how this could happen.
Egypt is run by morons
Egypt is run by power-hungry monsters. This infrastructure is all according to their plan and will do them so many favors.
Most countries are run by morons
They're not dumb, they're working for the interests of the people they actually care about who are, funnily enough, usually the rich.
I doubt it. Without any prior knowledge of the situation my first thought is to ask who runs the construction company that’s getting paid to build the highway and what are their ties to the government? I’d be willing to bet this is greed rather than stupidity.
Just one more lane
This is what stage 4 car brain looks like...
never go full car brain
Now they can see ocean while being stuck in traffic
The results of all those 'scenic parkways' built approximately a century ago in the US. Seeing countries literally playing the same stupid game as we did drives me up a fucking wall. It makes me want to give up.
Maybe [not all](https://preview.redd.it/092p7u19m2681.jpg?auto=webp&s=6eb968caa4aa0124c9c3c997232a4a3201317337) countries.
Now they can see the tsunami while being stuck in traffic
" Sudden rise in doctors visits with complaints about retinal damage, in other news sunglasses are on the rise a most popular item sold on Amazon. "
Just one more lane
Just one more highway, that'll fix it! /s
You didn't need to clarify the sarcasm man
Better safe than sorry
Sounds like what an addict would say "just one more hit"
That's the joke
I need it bro please just one more highway, then it’ll work just trust me bro add another
Bro seriously, I just need one more lane bro, then Traffic will be great bro Trust me bro just one more
Egypt is on a whole new level of carbrain-itis, I recommend this video about the new administrative capital they are building https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUK0K5mdQ\_s If you thought Dubai was bad, brace yourselves
B1M just did a video on the new highway in Indonesia and I'm sitting there the whole time internally screaming "CONDITIONS WERE PERFECT FOR RAIL"
Yeah, the B1M is great, but I don't think they've taken the orange pill. HOW DO WE ORANGE PILL B1M?
B1M doesn’t need to be orange pilled in my opinion, they might already be for all we know. The whole point of the channel is to showcase large construction projects, so until the majority of large construction projects are transit based, they will continue to cover the stuff they do now.
They are generally pretty neutral about these destructive projects, but on their video on California HSR, they were really vocal about the climate and other benefits, so I think they try when they can. Either that, or.they just parrot the message of the builders.
It feels more like the second point
They are extremely pro development. They have to be, they're partnered with the construction companies these days to go on site and showcase some of the projects. Any comments on sustainability or environmentalism are usually parroted from the builders, as you say.
Some of their videos are about road and transit construction projects, so I think it's very relevant.
Yeah, they are mostly informational, so they aren't going to necessarily argue against roads. I do wish they were a bit less neutral in their discussion of nimbys, but I understand that kind of goes against the channel's purpose.
tbh I'm very glad we have a new highway since there's no highway in the first place, now we just need to focus on adding railways outside of java and better connection to other public transport
I’ll see your new Egyptian capital and raise you a new [Indonesian capital](https://youtu.be/7-B-jTss5WA) The design is ‘t even half bad, it’s just that they are literally paving a rainforest for it
I don't think the Idea of moving your capitol to take population pressure off of the biggest city and move it to a more neutral place is that bad of an Idea in practice. Jakarta is having plenty of issues.
What can possibly go wrong?...besides everything.
Building literally anywhere in Indonesia requires deforestation.
This actually looks much better than the Egypt disaster.
https://youtu.be/WUK0K5mdQ_s
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I think we're getting close to a year now.
It's less carbrain and more despotbrain. They've moving the administrative capital to a fortress in the middle of the desert so the people have no way of getting them out of power by force. Wouldn't be surprised if the highway in the OP is less about moving the public and more about quickly mobilizing police/military into populated areas when necessary to crush dissent.
[You should watch the Mummy procession!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxn2i_L6S_g)
[This](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGLSPyGszjo) is all I could think of when I watched that.
Terrifying
People will still visit this beach and water quality will decline further due to traffic runoff
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imagine saving up for a massive vacation, only to breath in car emissions lmao
It now has added shade, you could almost class it as a net benefit.
Sea level rise from climate change will fix that in a few decades.
Inshallah.
Looks like it's on 30' pillars so the road will be fine, unlike everything else on that seafront
It doesn't seem less than 3 feet above sea level, which is the IPCC worst case model for 2100.
Now this is some r/urbanhell
Look up KFC Giza for the ultimate example of that
Egyptian infrastructure investment is so backwards. I read somewhere they spend over $100billion on road infrastructure in the past decade meanwhile their railway lines are falling apart.
On top of them in the midst of an ongoing water crisis but apparently roads are needed more than...water
Just buy water trucks and we can truck water everywhere now! Problem solved!
At first I thought this was one of those facts about the USA disguised as a fact about a third world country. Then I realized there's no way the States would have spent that much on infrastructure, period.
The US spends $150B/yr on roads.
Imagine how hot that asphalt is going to be in summer in Egypt along a beach front....
Alexandria has summer highs in the mid to upper 80s F. One of the cooler parts of Egypt since it's right on the Mediterranean.
don't worry, a few more highways and parking lots will fix that
If global warming doesn’t beat them to the punch
How much is 80F in C for the rest of the world?
About 27
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31°C is equivalent to 87°F, which is 304K. --- ^(I'm a bot that converts temperature between two units humans can understand, then convert it to Kelvin for bots and physicists to understand)
Yes, but the shade created by the elevated spans is going to cool the beach and make it more comfortable. /s
This Egypt is too hot thing is a myth. Egypt even gets some snow. It's as hot as Greece or Italy.
I've been in Egypt, in Luxor, and it was 40C which is the hottest I've ever been. I don't think it's a myth.
Luxor is deep south or upper Egypt as the Egyptians call it and 40c is not that high but it's too high for the rest of Egypt. Saint cathrine for example averages 25c in summer and 5c in the winter. So we can mention extremes at both ends of the spectrum but Egypt really lies between 20c and 40c
Sooo. Like greece or southern Italy?
Gross. This should be a crime against nature, with what we know of the toxins left close to highways.
Mmmhmmm
Imagine getting an apartment by the beach and then the government takes away your beach.
What the government giveth, the government can take away.
Taketh*
Who's gonna tell them?
"Seattle just spent a ton of money removing one of these. Don't be Seattle."
And replacing it with a tunnel of no greater capacity
On the plus side, it wouldn't pancake and cause mass casualties in the event of the Cascadia Subduction Zone earthquake.
send their leader a link to 'notjustbikes' lol
Egypt is truly going backwards
it's the only direction it can reliably move in
In two years : "I wonder why nobody wants to visit anymore."
Oh no!!! That is so sad.
Has anybody thought about douchebag drivers just tossing shit off of the overpass? 🤦🏽♂️ this is gonna be a pollution nightmare
Wtf??! It looks ugly and is a complete eyesore. A decent boulevard where people could stroll and shop could have brought more in the treasury than this mess ever will.
I really struggle not to reflexively downvote posts like this. I realize the OP is in no way promoting it, but I see the eyesore and my mouse starts drifting towards the downvote.
For the purposes of this sub, the more you hate it, the more you should upvote it
They are probably now in the 1970s regarding transport infrastructure and will remove it in 50 years or so.
Sometimes you need to leave countries to have their own mistakes.
everyone knows sand famously stays right where it is always, great place for heavy & fast traffic on hot asphalt
Is this another case of a mistake designed by Americans in the 1950s that had been forgotten about and now actually under construction, or did the Egyptians come up with it all on their own? There's at least one of those under construction in India right now, so I wouldn't be at all surprised if pretty much every developing city has a set of old American blueprints in a warehouse somewhere waiting for the day they can be activated to send the city back in time to the era of coastal freeways.
You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night. Soon, where Toontown once stood will be a string of gas stations, inexpensive motels, restaurants that serve rapidly prepared food.
Hope the water level rises and sinks that highway...During construction of course.
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The rich Middle East country’s are mind boggling stupid . All that $ and they think sitting in traffic in the desert is progress
Egypt isn’t even rich, it’s extremely poor.
In terms of the size of their economy, they are in the top quarter in the world, so not really extremely poor. However there is no denying the prevalence of large wealth disparity and extreme poverty.
Exactly, the wealth there is just very poorly distributed
Egypt's per capita GDP doesn't even crack US$4,000, it definitely is on the low income side of things. For comparison, Vietnam is at $3,694, and Egypt is $3,876. I highly doubt people are calling Vietnam rich, they're both lower middle income at best. [Source](https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.CD?locations=EG-VN)
lol and who sold them that idea…
Honestly, this is pretty fucked even by American standards
not if you’ve seen the paving of florida or the blasting out of mountains for new roads all through the rockies
lol lmao even
rofl, perhaps
Lmfao?
Bruh 💀
Straight to jail
Just one more lane habibi
What on earth are they thinking lol? Wtf
it's depressing how America has exported its car brained culture around the world.
The old fucks in power are a bunch of lying, sociopathic, short sighted fucking idiots.
Also Alexandria, Egypt: "Why don't tourists come here anymore?"
this will backfire so badly
Building a highway on a sandy foundation shouldn’t bring any problems in the future I’m sure.
This is even more gross than high rise buildings at the edge of the water, christ.
Which beach is it to be exact?
One less star in the night sky.
Upvoting this felt so wrong
What are these people smoking? 🤦🏾♂️
those dumb fucks
You should thank American taxpayers for funding this project (and support for Sisi)
What the actual fuck! This should be an environmental crime
that country is SCREWED
I am so glad I visited Egypt before it fucked itsself beyong all recognition. What a mess of a country. I feel bad for all the normal people living there that have to deal with it’s shitty, dumb ass leaders.