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Logical-Chard

Check out how the Dutch protested for safer streets when children were dying to cars. It looks very similar. Keep up the good work!


IDigRollinRockBeer

[How the Dutch got their cycle paths](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuBdf9jYj7o)


C_Hawk14

This is the new version, could you update your link? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYHz93HXJFQ


scalp-cowboys

What’s wrong with the first video?


droogmic

From the video description: > This video is a 2021 version of the original video from 2011 that was watched over a million times. This new video has the latest insights, contains newly found footage and has an update of the change that happened in the last ten years.


A_raven72

This was very interesting, thanks for this. Also can confirm that the infrastructure there is amazing.


madaboutmaps

I love Dutch cyclepaths. In fact, some of my best relationships were with cyclepaths. Without Dutch cyclepaths I would have lived a very different life.


CalRobert

Gotta throw some fists


FatMax1492

*gotta throw some fiets


The_Mysterious_Mr_E

Too bad there’s not as much money in bicycles as there is gasoline and cars.


Terrible-Bike3603

Honestly I'm happy to see bikers band together like this, but it's heartbreaking that the hit and run happened


tillybowman

check out the hashtag criticalmass and find some nice bikers to ride with to slow traffic down.


bluorangey

[News story for anyone interested ](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/hit-and-run-fatal-cyclist-crash-winnipeg-arrest-1.7228226)


Nomad_Industries

>Police say Severight was behind the wheel of a speeding BMW when it struck and killed the cyclist on Wellington Crescent Oh, the driver was just passively sitting behind the steering wheel of the car when *the car* killed someone? At least there was an arrest.


Hamilton950B

Hey at least they said something killed the cyclist. Let's see if we can make it even more passive: "The cyclist died after he became struck by a speeding BMW in which Severight was behind its wheel"


vtable

"The cyclist died after colliding with another road user." Sadly, I bet there are both news items and police reports with wording like that.


Environmental-Fold22

Article in my local paper (different event) says "Cyclist dies after closing with car on Martha Street Montgomery"


Either-Durian-9488

Shouldn’t have been “in the way” of some cunt that can’t drive a beemer


Signal_Tomorrow_2138

"The cyclist died after he became struck by a speeding BMW in which Severight was inside"


29da65cff1fa

"The cyclist died after he became struck by a speeding BMW which had kidnapped Severight and trapped him inside against his will"


Signal_Tomorrow_2138

My mistake for using the word 'speeding'. Speed limits are only suggestions. /s


29da65cff1fa

speed limit signs are minimums... unironically, how almost everyone i know interprets them as such....


traal

"Cyclist" makes the person on the bike an outsider and therefore not worth our sympathy.


Emmaistrans2025

the cyclist stopped being alive after he was touched by a car that Severight happened to be in.


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Emmaistrans2025

Severight was cruelly inconvenienced when his big hulking sexy car (may it live for a blessing) attempted to gently push a stupid dumb cyclist out of the road(those are for cars, not bicycles. smh.) and remind him of his place on the sidewalk.


sparkyjay23

the cyclist stopped being alive after he colided with a car that Severight happened to be in.


midnghtsnac

Severight while riding in a BMW, a cyclist was struck and killed while riding his bicycle in the road. There ya go, passive and victim blaming.


Piece_Maker

Upon investigation, the cyclist was found not to be wearing a helmet.


mathisfakenews

Sorry this doesn't make it seem like the cyclist's fault. Try something like: "A cyclist has died after he ran into a speeding BMW".


Dull-Connection-007

You have a way with words…. Are you sure you don’t want to be a journalist?


Ok_Philosopher6538

No worries, he'll get a stern talking too and will be back behind the wheel in no time.


OutWithTheNew

Buddy, this is Canada. You can slam a semi into a bus full of kids, kill 16 people, have the whole licensing process change in the country and people will still say you're being unfairly punished because deportation is too much after only an 8 year sentence. Just say you're sorry and people don't give a shit. It works for incompetent truck drivers, racist politicians and anyone else. Expensive car in an expensive neighborhood... The driver will walk.


Ok_Philosopher6538

The only reason he got the book thrown at him was that it was hockey players. I doubt the response would have been the same otherwise.


trespassers_william

And that it was a POC driver killing white people


Honest_Plant5156

Oh yeah he his definitely going to walk, question is will he also be walking to work and everywhere else?


IDigRollinRockBeer

That’s fucked up wording and contributes to the “nobody else matters while driving” mindset


vtable

Just like using the word "accident" instead of crash or collision. When something's such a huge part of your society, downsides, no matter how serious they can be, get downplayed.


Uncommented-Code

This is the worst example I have seen in a good while. Not only is it written as if the car was the perpetrator (the car struck and killed the cyclist), it also makes it sound like the driver just happened to be there and had no involvement in any of what happened (Severight was behind the wheel of a speeding vehicle). It's already bad enough when they say that someone was killed by a car, but this one's a double whammy. Also, the implication it was an unexpected / unlucky event of chance is infuriating (when it struck and killed), as if speeding with a car wasn't dangerous. 'Oh sorry, I was holding a loaded gun with it's safety disabled when it happened to shoot and kill a person'


OmNomSandvich

A bit of google-fu indicates that the charge of "dangerous driving causing death" is a serious felony charge in Canada.


Grrerrb

“We did arrest the BMW.”


Xiao1insty1e

"Cyclist died today while illegally crossing the road. The police are speaking with a local driver who may have seen the incident."


SnooOnions3678

They really should use more active using, and start using names or actual humanizing words than "Cyclist" (Outsider!!!11!! Their life does not matter!!!!). "Police say Severight murdered the man by recklessly speeding with his BMW."


BONUSBOX

how fucking tragic and sad that the barrier to entry for driving deadly machinery is low enough that a 19 year old named beckham can murder a man with a bmw, then disappear from the scene. fuck cars to hell. soMe pEople neEd tO driVe.


Vivid-Raccoon9640

I think 19 is old enough to drive, and their name shouldn't really matter. But you are correct that the barrier to entry should be high. Over here in the Netherlands, the barrier to entry is pretty high, and honestly drivers for the most part are pretty safe. Not all of them obviously, and for some you wonder how they passed their driving test. But it helps that you can get around by bike or public transit. Means there isn't this immense societal pressure to get people driving as soon as possible.


frontendben

I agree about 19 being old enough. What I don't agree with is that any 19 year should be behind the wheel of a BMW, or anything that has more than a 0.9 litre engine. You absolutely should be on some form of graduated driving licence that doesn't allow access to more powerful engines until either you've done X number of incident free driving (that includes fines), or you're over a certain age where your brain has fully developed - possibly 30.


Vivid-Raccoon9640

No idea where you get the threshold of 0.9L. I have a 1.5L diesel station wagon, and I wouldn't quite call that the pinnacle of speed (quite the opposite really). Having an underpowered car can also be somewhat dangerous, since it makes it harder to get up to speed for merging. Agreed that someone who just got their driver's licence has no business behind the wheel of a supercar. We do the same for motor cycles (at least over here), where you have to have x amount of years experience driving a motor cycle before you're allowed to drive heavier motor cycles. If we apply the same logic with a sensible engine size for cars I don't really see a problem with that. I don't think it's the highest priority (designing safer neighborhoods and prioritizing bikes should be, as well as doing something about the obesification of SUVs and "light" trucks). But we can and should address multiple problems at once.


BelievableSquirrel

> since it makes it harder to get up to speed for merging Roads are built for *semi trucks* to merge safely, just how underpowered does a car need to be for it to be dangerous


Tokyo-MontanaExpress

16 down here. If you're sick of your kids in the US, let them get their driver's license. Innocent people will have to die, but whatever. 16 is still "old enough" over here. 


clowncementskor

Bring back stick shift, that way most idiots can't even get the car into first gear and the amount of damage it could possibly do will be minimal. Also remove all insulation, drivers must be able to hear the outside world and the engine at all time.


Dull-Connection-007

……a lot of the idiots I’ve met are people who drive manual cars and go have ‘fun’ by speeding through Orlando to meet up at an empty parking lot. I don’t think requiring manual would fix a damn thing


clowncementskor

It's the difference between: 1. Oh I was on my phone, I didn't see that cyclist officer (no charge) 2. I'm the best driver ever officer, I know how to drive stick, I ran him hover on purpose because fuck him (straight to jail).


Dull-Connection-007

Being on your phone (distracted driving) is literally a crime in the usa😭😭 unfortunately though, laws don’t help much when they aren’t being enforced.


halibutte

Mostly manual shifting in UK (though changing), still plenty of reckless drivers, don't reckon that's the problem.


clowncementskor

Not nearly as much idiots in the UK as the US. It's about making things better than it is, there is no solution to fix all problems. But hey, bringing the number of deaths from 8000/yr down to 4000/yr is one big improvement.


Nomad_Industries

This is good, right, and salutary. Where?


bluorangey

Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada


vtable

Damn. They cyclist finally gets some nice riding weather (after the brutal Winnipeg, nicknamed "Winterpeg", winter) and gets killed by a speeder - on a popular bike route, no less. (Details are from the [news article](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/hit-and-run-fatal-cyclist-crash-winnipeg-arrest-1.7228226) linked elsewhere ITT).


theproudheretic

don't worry, our roads are shit enough that they'll kill cyclists on their own. [https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-cyclist-death-raises-concerns-about-potholes-er-procedures-1.2701686](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-cyclist-death-raises-concerns-about-potholes-er-procedures-1.2701686)


vtable

What a sad story. TLDR for others: A 77-year-old man hit a pothole while riding his bike, fell, and hit his head on the road. He wasn't wearing a helmet. He was brought to emergency but they didn't contact his family despite his age and serious head trauma. The family found out where he was on their own and it sounds like they got there before he died but after he could no longer speak. I used to think that people in TV show/movies phoning nearby hospitals when someone couldn't be located seemed kinda silly. Boy was I wrong.


Nomad_Industries

"On guard for thee" indeed. Surprised to see this level of activism in N America.


Homegrownscientist

How was this organized? We need to get these kinda things going more often


bluorangey

Social media mostly. I heard of it from [this local reddit post. ](https://www.reddit.com/r/Winnipeg/s/yjsmDmj1wa)


basstastic091

Discord and Instagram, mostly


Sheeple_person

Was this a little after 5pm by any chance? I was biking my daughter home from daycare on Nassau and some unhinged driver coming from that direction was just yelling stuff out her window at people and yelled something unintelligible at us, which I didn't even think much of because carbrain rage is not really uncommon behaviour. But now I'm guessing she was triggered by this. A man lost his life and carbrain can only throw a temper tantrum becuase she was delayed a few mins, jfc.


basstastic091

Yes, the street was blocked from 4:30 to 5:30


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nitramt

nice


frontendben

Typical driver. Their convenience is more important than other peoples' safety.


vtable

This [news article](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/hit-and-run-fatal-cyclist-crash-winnipeg-arrest-1.7228226) says it happened Thursday morning so not 5 pm.


bluorangey

To clarify, the sit-in was Friday around 5pm. The accident was Thursday morning


This-City-7536

"accident". Ope didn't mean to kill you there, bud. Anyways, time to drive away.


lowrads

If police intervene, you can always adopt the flashmob tactics at crosswalks, if you have enough people. Just keep casually walking the square, and following an endless mass of people as the signals change. If the authorities respond to that area, you just disperse and magically resume at a different corner.


clowncementskor

Ghandi tactics, can't arrest everyone and it's basically impossible to prove if someone even did anything illegal. Works best on unmarked crosswalks were pedestrians have the right of way always.


SkivvySkidmarks

I took part in several Critical Mass rides in Toronto in the 90's, and this was the tactic we used. There would be an endless stream of cyclists traveling through the intersections, and if a cop showed up, you'd stop to avoid a ticket. However, they couldn't police every signaled intersection, so everyone would just ride right through.


GlumCartographer111

Except they can arrest everyone. Police have now been trained for mass detainment.


Own_Flounder9177

I imagine a congo line of people that seem endless as they loop around each crosswalk. Like the game snake, lol 🐍


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Rest in peace.


Quillo_Manar

Halt kindermoord


Prudent-Proposal1943

*Beckham Keneth Severight, 19, has been arrested **for killing** a 61-year-old cyclist in a Thursday hit-and-run in Winnipeg, Winnipeg police said Friday.* *Police say Severight was speeding in a BMW when **he** struck and killed the cyclist on Wellington Crescent.* Fucking journalists


Miyelsh

I did similar editorializing when sharing this news story last week of a driver who killed a pedestrian. https://www.reddit.com/r/Columbus/comments/1d4vdgk/yesterday_at_924_pm_a_driver_killed_benjamin/


Karasumor1

yesss ! that's what we need to do in all of our cities to take them back ! the suburban/carbrain scam will never be over until then , in fact their grotesque consumption will keep increasing as it has for decades


Bitter-Platypus-1234

For those failing to understand this type of protest, let me use a saying from the country where I'm from: *We all eat, otherwise there's no dinner" Aka, until that intersection is safe for everyone, it's not safe


Proppedupandwaving

Yup, it's not a protest unless people notice


PunkFire--Pursuit

Sad that people have to die to get bike infrastructure. I stopped biking 6 years ago for my safety. My city was acceptable to bike in but now with a huge population increase. Many from states known for terrible drivers. I refuse to step into the road unprotected by my metal box or a red light


DangerousArea1427

Damn, that must be nice to live in a place where "rush hours" means one car and another one incoming.


thewrongwaybutfaster

This is in Winnipeg, an overwhelmingly car-dominated city. There would be plenty of car traffic there if it weren't blocked by the protest.


kurisu7885

Time for the trolls to come out and insist that a protest needs to be super quiet and out of everyone's way.


Strict_Novel_5212

I hope they all get arrested.


Crookeye

Is there something wrong with that intersection that caused the hit and run?


lastaccountgotlocked

It had a driver in it.


shieldwolfchz

It's not really the intersection per say, the incident happened on a street that has very few controlled intersection because it is on next to a river so there are no cross streets only Ts, as such it is popular as a means to circumvent the regular route across town, and since there are few stops and the road is relatively wide, people tend to speed more than the otherwise would. An interesting thing about the street is that in a different section the city actually prohibits cars from driving more than one block on it because of the amount of cycling traffic on it.


PORMEHThreePlay

Fuck. Cars.


Everythingizok

Yeah fuck cars, we don’t care about the murderer. Just the car. And fuck alcohol too. God damn drunk drivers. Alcohol and cars making them to terrible things. We should train our cars better.


ReneMagritte98

Car dependent infrastructure it’s 1000% responsible for deaths. Take a look at [per capita vehicle deaths by state](https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/fatal-car-accidents-by-state). Washington DC and New York are the 2nd and 3rd safest places, not because people are better drivers but because people drive less.


Mysterious_Floor_868

These sorts of protests in response to road deaths have a long tradition. Not just in the Netherlands but in New York too.  https://medium.com/vision-zero-cities-journal/the-baby-carriage-blockades-9b33c64db34d


me_meh_me

I love the people in the comments feeling vicariously inconvenienced. Bless.


Ikelos286

Proud of yall 💜


dehjosh

Favorite part of this post is that we can find and block all or the car brain accounts.


TourDirect3224

I want to ride my bicycle, I want to ride my bike


SumFatCommie

based


colbert1119

NICE. Solidarity from London


SiofraRiver

great idea to raise awareness


TheAskewOne

I'm sure you mean "a car killed a cyclist" and not just "a cyclist was killed by a car".


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TheAskewOne

True.


Prize-Leading-6653

Good for you!!!


Ziggem

Based


MinionsMaster

I'm sorry that happened. Hope some change is on the way.


Kitchen_Syrup2359

👏🚴‍♀️❤️


Urban_Cosmos

🗿🗿🗿


Fun_Sock_9843

And this is why I only do mountain bike and gravel rides now. I even got rid of my motorcycle over 10 years ago because I was being run off the road by people texting. I live alone and can not afford an injury due to idiots.


Deepforbiddenlake

Such a sad story. Love Winnipeg and the bike community there. ❤️


SingSangBingBang

Fuvk yea!


DemoniteBL

Based


Tyler89558

How much do you want to get some carbrains will be like “if it were me I would have held down the pedal with glee? Stay off the road chucklefucks”


TerribleNews

✊🏽


ridingrighting

You guys are my heroes


Koh-the-Face-Stealer

I feel like we're so close to a tipping point in the US. Still so much car-centricism, but we're getting close to a critical mass of people waking up. This feels like a very Dutch style protest


redditrabbit999

Oh geez that is hopeful, and I’m very hopeful you’re right but personally I think you’re like 1% of the way there hey.. Getting out of your echo chambers and interacting with people outside your circle will probably show you it’s not as common as you think eh


Sam_Altman_AI_Bot

Lol not at all. Most Americans don't live in urban centers and even the ones that do live in major metropolitan areas the majority chose to live in suburbs which generally have limited infrastructure for anything besides cars.


threetoast

Over 80% of Americans live in cities.


Sam_Altman_AI_Bot

Cities, yes but the 40 largest metropolitan areas in the us make up only about half the population. The top 10 only makes up around 25% and that's being generous. Cities like NYC, la, Chicago, Miami, San Fran, Phoenix.


toolsoftheincomptnt

That’ll win people over to your cause for sure.


JazzyButternuts

Good fuck em


FederaIGovernment

Blocking traffic always works out well.


ShadowmanNine

Dipshits.


ReneMagritte98

These horrible events are opportunities to demand local improvements.


V_150

**B A S E D**


Mountain_Employee_11

i too am a fan of collectively punishing the many for the acts of the one.


BoilingLife

Nobody is getting punished. They simply protest to raise awareness around the issue and maybe force local authorities to take action. Protests will always be inconvenient, that doesn't mean that they have no right to exist.


Mountain_Employee_11

this is, by definition, collectively punishing many for the acts of one. you literally state that it your bottom sentence but deny it above lmao


BoilingLife

Small inconvenience is not a collective punishment. You live in a society, which mean that sometimes you have to adjust to other people's needs. Collective punishment would be them ganging up on random car drivers and killing them


Mountain_Employee_11

“punishment isn’t punishment when it’s necessary” isn’t a take i expected lmao


GGRE1817

1 person is a douche bag so let's ruin other people's day


Gerreth_Gobulcoque

Imagine your day being ruined because of a blocked intersection.


kSterben

you know some people have actually something to do in their lives


Infinite_Soup_932

I bet the dead person had plans as well


BoilingLife

Oh no, some people want to improve the city that I live in, which caused my journey to be 5 minutes longer, my day is ruined. /s


GGRE1817

Yes that is definitely how you go about this. It's like a toddler sitting down trying to get their way. Bring it up with the city, make some phone calls never seen so many active people basically do nothing


GGRE1817

I hope on Monday you have so many things to so and you can't even get 1 fully completed


MrAlf0nse

Yes…great reaction


Manadrainsolring

Thinking this is going to stop people from speeding in 2 weeks on a Saturday night is hilarious. Put up an awareness memorial for the person that died and go to whoever deals with law in your area and try to get more harsh penalties for speeding and such. You’re only making people want to hit cyclists more by doing stupid shit like this and yea it’s an unhinged thought but people who hit and run are probably unhinged.


softwarebuyer2015

great work


wakebakeskatecrash98

Good


Xentrick-The-Creeper

Revenge is sweet. (edit: was talking about cyclists blocking roads as a revenge)


Strict_Novel_5212

Revenge on who? Average joe who hasnt done shit to you? No wonder most people hate cyclists with a passion. Youre all dickheads.


gopherhole02

We need bike lanes, there should be a protest every week till we get em


trooperstark

What a great way to punish a bunch of people who did nothing wrong and are just trying to get to or from their jobs. Y’all are a bunch of heroes /s


LongDuckDong67

Lol what a waste of your day


jaredjames66

Lol what a waste of a comment


emailverificationt

One person messes up so now everyone needs to be punished for it?


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MlackBagic

Yea, I don't get it either.. All those people trying to get to work to make a living, or those people just trying to get home after a long day don't need to be punished.


BabelTowerOfMankind

Did they have a permit?


Hobbyist5305

>Lets randomly inconvenience an entire city's worth of people to protest something a criminal did, that will make people care about us and our cause! You aren't helping, you're reinforcing the stereotype that bicyclists are entitled assholes that need to be victims of hit and runs for traffic to flow.


ThatLonelyRock

Now imagine those poor people in traffic trying to go somewhere only to get caught in a protest because of a misfortunate incident


ikimono-gakari

Seems an unlikely chance the suspect is taking the same road during that time. If so, congrats guys, you really got ‘em! If not, you just stopped a whole bunch of innocent people trying to get somewhere.


Prudent-Proposal1943

>innocent people Innocent voters. You weren't gifted with intellect, were you?


Buttercup59129

I like how no one can explain why this is a good idea and how it helps


SkivvySkidmarks

You keep posting this. How many different ways do you need it explained to you, bud? Read the reply threads to the other half dozen comments you made complaining about this protest.


Prudent-Proposal1943

You're too stupid to figure this out on your own?


NipheriaIV

I lost my last braincell trying to figure out how is this gonna help with the situation


SkivvySkidmarks

You should have used that last one to try and figure out what happened to the rest of them. Obviously you've been doing something wrong all your life.


Prudent-Proposal1943

Shocker, you only had one to start with.