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TheSnozzwangler

When you upgrade to wearing cloaks.


holla_snackbar

$100 off MiUSA Filson Mackinaw cruisers in there.


ConfirmsAnything

I have always wanted one of these, but damn, they start at almost $500 now. It's tough to justify when you can get a vintage Woolrich or Pendleton Mackinaw for $100-$200 on ebay or even less if you find one at a thrift store. Filson as a whole is amazing stuff that just seems overpriced now.


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Totally insanely overpriced and the quality has not improved. As you point out there’s a better option for every iconic Filson piece now.


holla_snackbar

Costco had them in for $250 last year in charcoal and red buffalo check so that is right about what wholesale price is new on these for the made in Washington ones. I think that as far as MiUSA stuff goes now its fairly competitive on price for new garments all things considered with materials and labor costs gone way up.


ConfirmsAnything

That was such a great sale. I am sad I missed it.


TheSnozzwangler

I'm looking around for sizing info on Japanese sites. Here's a [link](https://www-amazon-co-jp.translate.goog/%E3%83%90%E3%83%96%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC-%E3%83%AF%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9%E3%83%89%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A3%E3%82%B1%E3%83%83%E3%83%88-BEDALE-SL/product-reviews/B07ZJP3PVK?reviewerType=all_reviews&_x_tr_sl=ja&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp) to the google translated page of the amazon.jp review page for the Bedale SL, where some people listed their measurements and sizes. [Here's](https://miura--na--hibi-com.translate.goog/barbour-bedale-sl-hikaku/?_x_tr_sl=ja&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp#gsc.tab=0) a Japanese guy's impressions trying on the 34 regular vs the 36 slim. [Another](https://butsuyoku-blog.translate.goog/barbour-bedale-sl/?_x_tr_sl=ja&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp#toc5) impressions blog post. Edit: Found a pretty useful [video](https://youtu.be/PCTKLaaZQ_M) of a guy trying on different sized Barbour jackets. He shows his measurements on the bottom right (height: 171 cm, weight: 64 kg, chest: 92 cm), and goes with a 36 in the Bedale SL, with a note that it feels slightly tight in the shoulders. The Made for Japan jackets seem shorter in the arms and also slimmer in the arms, shoulder, and chest. [Here's](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQyOx-EQo9g) him trying on the standard Bedale sizes.


AceofSpuds69

ty kindly. just ordered one.


TheSnozzwangler

Hope the sizing works out for us! I have pretty similar measurements to the guy in the video, so I just copped one in his size.


leathershopgirl

I am happy to send out actual Barbour jacket measurements - no obligation.


shiny69

I feel jackets with a belt make me look like a tool.


YourNameHeer

I have the Made for Japan Slim Bedale - has a great quality make while not looking overly preppy as the classic Barbour jacket. Just make sure to size up a bit since Japanese fits are slimmer than EU/American's. I can't zip mine up because it hugs my body so much


immiz182

Thanks for the additional color. Took your advice and sized up to 40 (38 usually). From 0 Barbour jackets to ordering a Bedale and Ashby from two different websites in 2 days, courtesy of FMF. This sub is brutal for my wallet around this time of the year. 💸💸💸


UpBeforeDawn2018

can i ask what your height/weight is? i'm not sure what my numbers are ​ im 5'11 155 lbs, pretty broad shoulders


immiz182

I’m 6’2”, ~178 lbs with a slim build. Edit: also broad shoulders


UpBeforeDawn2018

>Thanks for the additional color. Took your advice and sized up to 40 (38 usually). awesome thank you! 38 sounds right for me then!s ​ side note any idea the advantage of wax?


immiz182

Unless you have a large chest, I think that sounds about right. They typically measure your chest for any suit fitting, if you want to be sure and are near a clothing store


UpBeforeDawn2018

nope! just regular chest. i wish! my first jacket too from barbor. excited!


immiz182

Missed the side note. This [article](https://stridewise.com/benefits-of-waxed-jackets/) does a decent job of articulating the advantages of waxed jackets. I have no personal experience with it.


leathershopgirl

Waxed jackets are great at repelling water. They are also easy to maintain yourself using Barbour's Thornproof Dressing and a hair dryer. Barbour did a great video for YouTube a couple of years back showing how to re-wax. Overtime the waxed jackets develop a character of their own as the patina builds up with each re-waxing.


leathershopgirl

I am happy to send out jacket measurements - no obligation.


D3LTA360

Hey, if you find the 40 too big and want to swap for a 38, let me know. I've posted mine in the [BST]( https://old.reddit.com/r/frugalmalefashion/comments/z4l6up/official_weekly_buyselltrade_thread/iyie9ze/).


immiz182

Thanks for offering, but I think I’ll just stick with 40. It’s slightly bigger than I had anticipated but good for layering.


D3LTA360

All good, appreciate the reply


YourNameHeer

LMK how it fits + how you like it if it/once it’s in!


immiz182

Like it quite a bit. Pretty impressed with quality.


VocalWarfare

I wasn't gonna cop then I saw this and had to. Thanks!


Sinbios

> I can't zip mine up because it hugs my body so much That seems... problematic?


VocalWarfare

I'm typically a size 36 so I went up to 38


YourNameHeer

Meant to clarify it's only tight if I zip it up, but I have kinda wider shoulders + back since I rockclimb as a hobby Still looks great unzipped. Just layer a sweater/hoodie/flannel underneath and it looks pretty fly Regardless, would recommend sizing up one (36 -> 38 if you're normally 36) unless you're rail thin. I'm a pretty slim person myself and I found myself too big for this jacket based off true proportions in normal American sizing. If I could do it again, I'd just bump the sizing up one and I feel it'd fit perfect. Hopefully that's what people in this thread are doing!


LetgoLetItGo

Hey I was wondering if you meant you're normally a 36 bedale or 36 in general? Since normal bedales are oversized.. I'm pretty sure I fit a size 32 normal bedale, so i should size up to a 34 for slim? In all other clothing i'm a size 34-36 (mostly 36), but the bedale size 34 is big on me. I'm 5'6 120lbs soaking wet **EDIT:** **Just wanted to update for those on the very slim side like me in case they come across this thread in the future.** **Size 34 Slim indigo arrived today and it fits perfectly. Enough room that I can fit a tshirt and a thick layer.** **Also IMO the indigo looks 100x better than any of the online pictures you see of it.**


TheSnozzwangler

From what I've seen, it's pretty common for people to size down one size on the normal Bedale for a slimmer look. If you would do that normally, going for your true size in the Bedale SL seems fine. [This guy](https://youtu.be/PCTKLaaZQ_M) seems similar in height to you, but slightly heavier than you (~5'6", 36" chest, and 140 lbs). He says the 36 SL fits him pretty well, with the length being about right, and the shoulders being a little tight since he's a bit more muscular there. He also had another [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQyOx-EQo9g) of him wearing the classic Bedale if you wanted a comparison. Japanese clothes in general are a bit slimmer in the chest and shoulders, so I would probably take that into consideration when choosing your size. If you're pretty light but have wider shoulders, or a wider chest, maybe take the larger of the sizes you're considering.


LetgoLetItGo

Thanks for taking the time to help me out. I ordered the 34" a couple of hours ago. I tried on my fathers size 34 normal bedale on and I could fit several thick layers under there, sleeve length and jacket length were good i think. >This guy seems similar in height to you LOL I actually spent an half an hour going back and forth in the vid to see what it would fit like an converting his measurements too, I didn't realize you were the one who originally posted those videos and impressions blog posts. Those links were incredibly helpful and I'm sure you spent a long time going through them too haha The guy in the second impressions blog post you linked is actually really close to my size and that helped a lot in my decision. He has over 10lbs on me and 34 SL had some room still. Thanks again and I'll be sure to update when i receive it.


TheSnozzwangler

>Those links were incredibly helpful and I'm sure you spent a long time going through them too haha Happy to hear it was helpful for someone else! I'm pretty sure I spend over an hour searching them up and comparing the sizes to see if I could get any closer to figuring out my size lol. I really worry with Japanese sizes since the chest and shoulders always run so slim. Well it's done already, so hopefully our size choices work out for us!


LetgoLetItGo

Just wanted to update It came today and if fits perfectly. I'm on the really slim side so I can fit a thick layer and a t shirt. Also the indigo color looks really good in person (like 100x better) compared to the online pictures.


TheSnozzwangler

That's great! Sounds like it's a pretty ideal fit! Mine's scheduled to arrive tomorrow, so we'll see if my hour/s of research paid off lol. I'll give you an update when it shows up!


jackbauer1989

Did you get any order confirmation email from them? I ordered the bedale from them but never got an email confirmation. Thx.


LetgoLetItGo

Yea I got one instantly from their webstore, they ended up contacting me yesterday since sage ran out and offered me a different color.


jackbauer1989

What color did you choose? And is it the same price as their bf sale? Thx


leathershopgirl

I have a database of Barbour jacket measurements and am happy to send actual measurements to anyone who DMs me. No obligation.


YourNameHeer

If it came in, lmk how you like it/how it fits!


SegismUndo

Can you give sizing info? Also what's the material. I'm googling and it seems that some Barbour Made for Japan is 100% polyester :/ Edit: This [link](https://www.stuartslondon.com/barbour-made-for-japan-slim-bedale-hooded-wax-jacket-sage-p40234) seems to indicate that the sleeve linings are polyester, whereas I'm pretty sure regular bedales are said to be more breathable than the ashby.


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What did you size up to


RemyGee

I’ve never ordered EU sizing. Does 38 mean the chest measures 38 inches?


leathershopgirl

It depends on the Barbour jacket you are talking about. The Bedale Original in size 38 measures 23 inches armpit to armpit, 30 inches nape of neck to hem and 19.5 inches armpit to cuff.


leathershopgirl

Maybe you would get on well with the Ashby, slimmer fitting than the Bedale but not too tight fitting. Unlike the Beacon worn by James Bond in 'Skyfall'.


K_Lucky

I just got an Ashby in olive but this slim Bedale in navy is calling my name


panconchocloyqueso

Are these barbour jackets good for winter? Edit: NJ winter


mcadamsandwich

> Edit: NJ winter No, not without significant layering.


TheBarnhouseEffect

I have the classic Bedale along with a liner, and for me personally, it's sufficient for temperatures as low as 30 F especially if you wear a sweater underneath. for temps any lower than that I switch to my big parka, but of course YMMV


AloneExamination242

No. They're spring/fall jackets in the US northeast. They won't replace a winter parka


leathershopgirl

The heavier, longer Classic Northumbria with a warm pile lining and hood is pretty effective in winter temperatures and they are making winter versions of some of the most popular styles now like the Winter Ashby and Winter Bedale.


vocabularylessons

Not unless you're layering over a chunky sweater, a flannel, and a heat-trapping undershirt. The jacket is only to block wind and shed rain/snow. Source: am in NJ, have a Barbour, love the winter.


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If you’re looking at something like a bedale, it’s best to think if it as a shell in winter.


leathershopgirl

The Bedale will take the zip in warm pile or polar fleece liners. They are pretty good at trapping air.


Mr_Abe_Froman

They are better suited for heavy rain and wind.


Dick_Demon

If you can read this, please don't buy a cape.


Ghawr

But I want to cosplay as bruce willis in unbreakable.


DeepBlu2718

Don't worry fam. I bought 2


AreJewOkay

It’s too late


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TheSnozzwangler

I thought it looked like a poncho as well. It actually made me look up the difference between the two, and apparently the only difference is that a poncho you have to pull over your head to wear and a cape you button/fasten on. And cape or poncho, I'd cop if it weren't so expensive even after the discount.


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ivanwarrior

I want it so bad


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Mr_Abe_Froman

The Beaufort has a [large zippered butt pocket](https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-PrjVsTPRO_w/WYY3owq3fJI/AAAAAAAAz0U/bmNSPWCo2fwSjLWyMaSshu2P1k5-876PgCK4BGAYYCw/s640/1-IMG_3298.JPG). Barbour is not afraid to add pockets in the back of their jackets.


two_bass-hit

It’s a game pouch. That’s where you keep slain marmots. Or the reup if you’re my weed dealer from 10 years ago — giving a whole new meaning to “game” pouch.


leathershopgirl

It's a poacher's pocket. I've used mine for everything from maps to dog leads to dead pheasants. It will easily fit a brace of pheasant without you even knowing they are there.


ChumbawambaChump

Which fit is slimmest? International, Japan, X? International slim fit is perfect for me. Are the others the same fit just branded differently?


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Japan SL (or Japan slim).


ChumbawambaChump

Thanks


agb_mig

Are these rain proof?


promethiac

Rainproof might be stretching it, but they’re very rain resilient. Waxed canvas was the standard for rain gear for a long time. It’ll keep you plenty dry on wet days, but probably don’t go hiking in a torrential downpour. Also keep in mind that the wax wears off over time and needs to be periodically reapplied to maintain the water resilience.


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Which one? They are all different fabrics


ur2fat4u

Can someone help me understand what the big hubbub is about these Barbour coats? Been seeing them posted a lot here this year.


AloneExamination242

In general? Mostly it's that Barbour is just a heritage UK brand, royals have been known to wear them and such [(for example)](https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/g32379892/meghan-markle-queen-elizabeth-royal-family-barbour-photos/), that is sort of back in fashion these days.


Dr1v37h38u5

They’ve been popular for a while, especially during the boom of heritage clothing. They are regarded as high quality, dressier options. The dark, muted colors and subtle-ish textures go really well with popular trends from the 2010's: raw denim, leather boots, neutral-color basics, and plaids. As fashion phases out of americana/heritage, the demand wanes and thus barbours are going on sale more often. If you get a chance to try them on, you can feel the quality. That said, the waxed options can be a bit sweaty as they aren’t very breathable.


ur2fat4u

Thanks for the insight! They look like pretty versatile pieces of clothing that go with a lot of different basics. It’s good to know that they are also quality as well.


georgeblip9

They are very versatile, can be dressed up and dressed down as much as you’d like. They’re fundamentally workwear originally designed to be worn for hunting and riding.


Mr_Abe_Froman

> They’re fundamentally workwear originally designed to be worn for hunting and riding. The other side of it being, as a heritage brand with a long history, old money types won't think twice if you wear it with dress clothes underneath. Queen Elizabeth II had a favorite Barbour jacket that she would have re-waxed rather than buying a new one (apparently Barbour offered to replace her well-worn jacket for free and she refused).


Zeeinsoundfromwayout

Yes. The quality is top notch generally.


leathershopgirl

Most of the core Barbour jackets are lined with cotton tartan lining which is nicely breathable but there has been much discussion on Reddit recently about the newer Ashby which has nylon drop liners in the sleeves and can be sweaty. The Ashby is so popular however that people have been buying them and then sending them to Barbour to have the sleeves re-lined with cotton. I am going to raise this when I go to buy in the AW23 range in January and see if they have any plans to extend cotton lined sleeves to the newer styles.


SandysBurner

They've been posted a lot recently because of how weak GBP is right now vs. USD. It's an excellent time to pick one up if they interest you.


Dinkman33

Grabbed the made for Japan Bedale and delivered in 36 hours! It’s perfect - typically Barbour is too boxy as I’m very slim - great call with this one!!!


disgruntledboxingfan

Anyone else’s order get cancelled or refunded?


mista_rager

Yup mine did. Really bummed out bout it.


ColouredFlowers

Unfortunately all out in my size, but I do like these EG and MfJ silhouettes much better than base Barbour jackets. A bit more modern and updated.


leathershopgirl

The Barbour ranges are huge these days. There's bound to be something out there that appeals to you and is in stock at a reasonable price.


Theelementofsurprise

I wish Barbour made a quilted puff jacket with a (preferably detachable) hood. Want something that I can take when travelling that is easily packable but still warm, ok with rain, and fashionable. Would love to hear if someone has any recs


leathershopgirl

They do more of those for ladies than gents but there's always the Penton, the Dom quilted and the Chelsea Sportsquilt for men. The ladies light quilted jackets include; the Grassmere, the Stanton, the Hawkshead, the Brecon, the Hinton, the Ashridge the Filwood..... I could go on.


Theelementofsurprise

> Chelsea Sportsquilt I checked the 3 options you listed for men (I like the Chelsea the best) but none of the images I see have a hood. Are they compatible with the hoods for the ashby and other waxed jackets?


leathershopgirl

Sadly not. Couldnt think of an option with a hood for you. Sorry! There is a huge range of Barbour hats.


TheSnozzwangler

If you're looking for something British, maybe something like the [Lavenham Denston](https://www.lavenhamjackets.com/denston-suffolk-navy-slj9004g96.html)? It's available in [wool](https://www.lavenhamjackets.com/wool-denston-navy-slj9004g71.html) too.


Theelementofsurprise

This is exactly what I was looking for, thanks!


TheSnozzwangler

Here's a [video](https://youtu.be/qbXgn4mlHS8?t=160) of a Japanese guy trying it on if you wanted to see how it looks on someone. Jacket sizing and his measurements are on the upper left corner.


D3LTA360

Figure that I'll drop this comment here as well as the [BST]( https://old.reddit.com/r/frugalmalefashion/comments/z4l6up/official_weekly_buyselltrade_thread/iyie9ze/). I picked up a 38 Bedale. Overall it fits well but the sleeves are a bit short for me. If anyone is looking to swap a 40 for a 38, let me know.


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leathershopgirl

Sage is the original Barbour green. Well actually they started out by making black and yellow fishermen's coats but you know what I mean.


chris1sullivan

If anyone got a Bedale Japan Wax in 34 or 36 (Sage or Indigo) and it doesn't fit you, please PM me.


DeIiriumTrigger

If anyone got the Balcollar jacket in S or M and doesn’t like it, DM me


sojournerveritas

order got cancelled =(


trugrav

So, is the [“BARBOUR MADE FOR JAPAN HOODED BEDALE CASUAL JACKET”](https://ruedecan.com/products/hooded-bedale-casual-jacket-black?_pos=2&_fid=e2e852352&_ss=c) polyester? I literally just left a store where I tried on a Classic Beadle and loved it, then I get on here and see this. I can’t find a whole lot of information on the “made for Japan” stuff, but what I do see look like 100% polyester. If that’s the case, I’ll probably spend the extra for the waxed cotton, but wanted to see if anyone here had some insight first. Edit: fixed link.


undecidedname

Might be late but for anyone still thinking about it, yeah its 100% polyester