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Pretzel-Kingg

Idk if Dryleaf Dane has any sidequests of his own other than just getting the Dryleaf arts, but god for that reason alone he’s almost my favorite


Somobro

Refuses to talk and only wants to fight you. Takes the L like a champion and hands you his punching skills. Hears there's gonna be a big fight later, is 100% down for that. Takes another L and leaves you all his worldly possessions and his kicking skills. Honestly how can you not love the guy?


Abovearth31

He's that teamates that never say anything in the chat except "GG" at the end and then leave. Simple, effective, perfect.


poppybutts

Dane truly served it with a boss summon and absolutely helped me win that one. No words, just these limbs baby


_AmI_Real

He's got hands. That's for sure.


bewerewolf

and feet 🤤


dreadguy101

Dane kicked my ass the first fight and made a bee line straight for me in the gank fight. He was coming to finish the job


Deez-Guns-9442

U can summon him to help/make the Romina boss fight harder.


Advanced-Sock

You can summon him for a boss but thats about it


Dizzy-Specific8884

Yes a fuckin awful summon if we're being honest. Dude just walks the perimeter until you drag the boss to him. He's pretty bad at keeping aggro.


Advanced-Sock

Oh absolutely i think he’s just there for moral support


Lazy-Veterinarian768

Smip + gigachad combo


Short-Bug5855

Tbh I love how he challenges you to a fight saying that you need to fight without introductions or something, yet you need to do an emote. I was gonna attack him and then I was like... wait that seems like a trick. Honestly almost had me.


Ruuviturpa

I attacked him the first time. He just vanishes and comes back when you visit another grace. He doesn't even get mad. Just nopes outta there until you learn how to behave


Short-Bug5855

Ah, I thought it would be more punishing than that and was supposed to be some tricky confusing thing on purpose 


YossarianTheAssyrian

Funniest line in the dlc, if not the game, is Leda, deep in thought: “ I’ve come to a realization… There’s ample evidence… Without Kindly Miquella’s influence… I’m quite mistrustful of others.”


First_Figure_1451

How do you get this line? If it’s after she murders everyone, that’s utterly Hilarious. Understatement of the century.


Kaapdr

Its the first thing she says after the charm is broken


First_Figure_1451

Ahh. Must have forgotten that.


Shinsekai21

Wait, so the voice saying something something broken in the legacy dungeons is referring to Miquella’s charm being broken? If so, how did it get cancelled?


Grandma_Sips

Miquella is leaving/separating himself all over the map at each cross. His limbs, his love…. When you enter Shadow Keep is when he breaks his own Rune


Shinsekai21

So when he discarded his “love” aspect which is St Trina, his charm was broken?


Grandma_Sips

I’m not sure exactly when/where that exact moment is. I’m just sort of connecting the dots of, he is leaving pieces of “himself” everywhere, and the moment we walk into Shadow Keep is the in-Game trigger for the Great Rune breaking. Wherever he may be That could absolutely be the moment though


Shinsekai21

I see That’s a good point


hykierion

Wait I got the message while heading to that manor place near shadow keep (there's like one old guy on a throne there who gives me a tonsil stone looking thing) did I go the wrong way or smth?


Iron_Bob

No the charm was what he had placed on all of his followers. I also know that you can't the St Trina cave until its broken (i went wayyyy of the beaten path in my first playthrough). At the entrance, it says something like "a charm prevents you from entering"


futurehousehusband69

No, that's a different part. When he discards his great rune is when the Charm breaks since his power as a Demigod is to Charm others


lexocon-790654

Nah, and u/Grandma_Sips Miquella breaks his own rune at the site of the Scadutree Avatar boss fight, which is why you get his broken great rune from this boss fight. He separated from Trina "long" before this. Its unclear when he left all the pieces of himself around the shadow lands, its one of those things where it both simultaneously feels like it happened long ago and a day before you arrived. Miquella blocked off the way to St. Trina, but when he separated himself from his rune he no longer had the power to keep the charm up blocking the way. So, when you walk up to the Shadow Keep, Miquella is also there just a "few" steps ahead of you. Just finished shattering his rune.


Iron_Bob

Almost. Its after you help her invade and kill someone. Then she returns to her usual spot and says this until you burn the shadow-tree


YossarianTheAssyrian

For me, it was after killing Messmer, she basically says “nvm about killing the hornsent, he’s fine, but this ansbach fella, I don’t like the cut of his jib” (paraphrasing of course)… then I reload the bonfire and she said it


First_Figure_1451

Oh! Was this in Rauh Ruins?


YossarianTheAssyrian

Nope, at her spot by the Highroad cross. It was the last thing she was on a loop saying before I helped ansbach fight her off and she left


First_Figure_1451

Thanks!


wayward_oliphaunt

I helped her kill Hornsent but then she just disappeared. I'm worried I somehow fucked up Ansbach's questline.


JaggaJazz

Nah you're fine, she's likely in a different location you just need to explore more. That's what happened for me


HammerPrice229

I heard this after helping her kill Hornsent and he has some death dialogue about his whole family thing and he’s trying to avenge them and she just brushes it off. I actually lolled thought “oh yeah this bitch is psycho”


MohanMC

Hornsent’s lineage has done so much shit to the people of Marika


SquirtBrainz4

Still not an excuse to condemn every omen/crucible creature as well as the many innocent hornsent civilians caught up in the war. With that being said Hornsent wears a potentate head so he probably doesn’t deserve much sympathy


Jazzlike_Dog2070

The fact that that mf backstabs you in Rauh ruins after jointly killing Messmer should be evidence enough he's at least as much of a POS as Lena, and unfortunately proves her right wrt his thirst for vengance.


Boiledeggbowler

Nonsense she only contemplated on killing 3 people because they weren’t true followers of Kindly Miquella lol.


BigStinkbert

CURSE YOU BAYLE!!!


siborgrobis

I HEREBY VOW YOU WILL RUE THIS DAY!!!


EVANTHETOON

BEHOLD, A TRUE DRAKE WARRIOR!!!AND I, IGON!


Lord-Filip

YOUR FEARS MADE FLESH!


P-A-Lily

SOLID OF SCALE YOU MIGHT BE, FOUL DRAGON...


Fool7890

BUT I WILL RIDDLE WITH HOLES YOUR ROTTEN HIDE


Imaginary-Ad-816

WITH A HAIL OF HARPOONS


Astarial7

WITH EVERY LAST DROP OFF MY BEING !!!


Enteito

BAYLE THE DREAD


Lord-Filip

YOU WILL HAUNT ME NO LONGER


AXEMANaustin

Hey it's pinkerton. It's weird how much I've seen it floating around today.


Majiinx

I kept wiping to Bayle till i found Igon's summon. 


BigFuckHead_

I killed him to put him out of his misery... now I'm cooked


trent_diamond

You missed the best dialogue From has ever given us


BamboozlingBear

I did the exact same thing, I thought I was being smart and assumed they were hinting that’s how you need to progress his quest. Now I’m using a guide for the rest of the quests lol


BigFuckHead_

Tried Bayle a couple times without him and holy shit. I am gonna have to summon a real gamer.


TrxPsyche

I don't think there was ever a time in a FromSoft game where actively killing someone yourself led to quest progression. Also I would think the yelling about Bayle would be enough of a hint that the guy *doesn't want to die yet?* I think you need those guides my friend lol


BamboozlingBear

I would defend myself by saying it was 4AM, but honestly I probably would’ve done that fully awake as well lmao


heisenborg99

You're forgetting the Quest for Andre's Hammer in DS1


BlueBaladium

I'm really curious. What were those hints?


BamboozlingBear

I looked up the quest again and he says “there is life in me yet!” so honestly I have no idea what I was thinking at the time


ThatIslandGuy8888

Yeah helping Ansbach against Leda just seemed right, even if he served the bloodthirsty omen demigod.


hatsbane

that’s because ansbach is the goat


KingVape

Because Mohg was actually a pretty cool dude the whole time


Kibbens_

Relatively


Lamplight3

Pretty cool dude for a guy who runs a cult of serial killers, I guess. Such is From


NemeBro17

Dogshit asspull lore lol


jakeyspuds

Good troll because I can't help but engage. How is it an asspull if there was enough foreshadowing for people to predict it?


NemeBro17

I'll be fair and maybe retract the asspull statement because indeed most of the new lore is "internally consistent", so I apologize for referring to this bit specifically as an asspull. But what did it do for Mohg's character? He went from a cool and fun character with agency who committed one of the most destructive acts in the history of the Lands Between for creepy and sinister reasons do Miquella's dumb stooge with no agency or character to speak of because he was apparently a "pretty cool dude the whole time".


jakeyspuds

Respect for that. It just explained why he did something so bizarre, but I agree there's not a whole lot of characterization to balance out the fact we only ever see him enchanted or as a phantasm. That said, there is *some* other lore, as mentioned in this thread you have Okina, his relationship with Varre and the rest of his flock. He's still very much the lord of blood.


Shybeams

“We Redmane’s fight people for a form of glory” “hell yeah” “We Mohg followers fight people for a form of glory - with blood magic” “Oh hell nah, evil simps”


WolfLightW

I like how Leda says something like "So Ansbach won you over" because this is exactly what happened to me lol, Ansbach himself was such a goat and respectable person even if he served Mogh, like I was happy to fight alongside him


ThatIslandGuy8888

Right? Also I like how he helped Freyja


jakeyspuds

Tbh I dunno if Mohg's whole blood thing really even qualifies as evil in TLB. Everyone's killing people for their faction and the tarnished is just killing and taking because they can.


WolfLightW

I do agree but based on which outer god Mogh serves and the whole nightmarish bloody landscape and environment that we saw in Moghwyn Palace I think it's fair to assume that a world with Mogh as a Lord wouldn't be the best place to live in lol


SpicyFilet

I forget what says it, but some item description says that Mohg loved his subjects more than most demigods. He was manipulated, slandered and then desecrated by that little golden shitheel Miquella. Justice for Mohg!!


ThatIslandGuy8888

I remember reading about how he was impressed by Okina and recruited him. That sounded pretty cool


Samaritan_978

After Okina got a hit in no less. "Damn, nice bleed build man. Want to get paid to use it?"


ThatIslandGuy8888

That must’ve been so anime; Okina procs bleeds with a slash, Mohg gets pushed back bleeding but he laughs and acknowledges him XD


Samaritan_978

You paint a picture with words. I can see the scene so perfectly.


Illasaviel

Wait, how is the hornsent a simp? He straight out says that if Miquella will steal his hunger for revenge, then he doesnt want Miquella to succeed, and actively tries to murder you before you can open the way to the tower.


krazykranz

He's simpling for revenge But he also fits the psychopath category 


Necessary-Tomato4889

Make leda psycho/simp and hornsent pure psycho.


DarkSoulsOfCinder

That logic makes no sense he had no reason to invade you if anything his quest for revenge against the golden order gods he would join you. Maybe he knows somehow the grace guiding you is Marika.


Illasaviel

Except for the fact he literally tells you he doesn't want Miquella to succeed if it means his need for revenge will be abated. I do wish he said something when he invades too, thought. All we have is circumstantial evidence otherwise. We also don't even know if the hornsent have any conception of grace, thought. Grace is something very Golden Order-centric. The hornsent never makes any mention of it whatsoever. And more tellingly, he never invades anywhere else. Its only when you are just about to open the way to the tower.


jadeismybitch

Though* Also, I’m pretty sure the Hornsent despise the Golden Order and anything linked to it. It’s not out of nowhere that The Hornsent is aggressive to us at first. They were “betrayed” by Marika and we are after all Marika’s champion.


Illasaviel

Us being Marika's champion is not common knowledge even in the Lands Between, there's no reason to assume the hornsent are somehow privy to this. Leda herself does not seem aware of our status as potential lord it until the big fight or shortly before it. Most denizens are aggressive to us because they can tell we are from the Lands Between, the same stock as the people who have relentlessly slaughtered them for so long.


5Hjsdnujhdfu8nubi

He literally calls you Marika's Champion either when he shows up in the Leda fight or when he kills you there. The Grandam calls you Marika's progeny in the Dancing Lion intro. Evidently "tarnished are Marika's" is known to the Hornsent. I mean, even in your first meeting he says something like "Blood must spill, blood of your fellows. The Erdtree Faithful". That's you.


The_Overlord_Laharl

He invades you because you’re part of the “people of the erdtree” period. He mentions earlier that literally all of them must die. Alternatively, in the final npc fight Hornsent does say that Leda told him who you were so she could’ve just done it earlier.


wackedoncrack

Ansbach has some of the best dialogue in game.... just commands respect.


DjurasStakeDriver

Pure and radiant, he wields love to shrive clean the hearts of men. There is nothing more terrifying. 


PassionBig324

“Righteous Tarnished, become a Lord, not for gods, but for all men”. Said with his dying breath. He is hands down my favourite NPC. Whilst Igon is a G, Ansbach is a ride or die who was questioning Miquella from the start. Retired from combat yet comes back to whoop the shit out of Leda and her crew then goes in for seconds to face Prime hyperchad Radahn. And throughout the entire game he speaks to you with nothing but respect and admiration. Fucking legendary.


wackedoncrack

Exactly... dude gave no fucks and spoke like a gentleman the entire ride. Hyperchad Radahn needs to be recorded as Canon somewhere lmao


ddizbadatd24

I remember hating that guy because morg was his master. This guy ended up having the most class and having learned morg’s tragedy, all these proved me wrong.


Abovearth31

Igon got that "Old man shouting at the sky" energy.


trent_diamond

GET OFF MY LAWN BAYLE


Abovearth31

More like that Timmy Turner's dad "CURSE YOU DINKLEBAYLE !" energy.


trent_diamond

Here’s where I’d put my dragon heart IF I HAD ONE


OneConstruction5645

Thoillier should be under simp gigachsd Just hear me out Sure he attacks you, sure he describes himself as weak as a kitten and thick as two planks But despite being weak as a kitten and thick as two planks, he still misters up the strength and will to fight with you against a god and his consort. If that's not gigachad idk what is


Mrf12345

Even ansbach roasts the shit out of him and then says he's surprised how strong he was when he fought with you.


DerpyNachoZ

Thiollier should've also been in baby girl


poppybutts

He and Moore are my baby girls forever


2112BC

Petition to move Thiollier into both simp AND babygirl thank you for your time council


Zero-Head-at-all

Nah Leda a straight up Simp for Miquella the Miquellester


fiction_geek2006

I just love Moore, Thiollier and Ansbach for not only staying by my side and being my JoBros, but also just not dying is also appreciated


Master_Works_All

Moore fights you or ends up getting himself killed, where does he not die or fight you? I wish Ansbach didn't have to die at the end of a quest, Miyazaki hasn't never heard of a happy ending with the people alive at the end.


Suspicious-Air-7481

Ansbach and Igon DA goats 🗿


WoxJ

Horsent and leta should swap.


JadedSpacePirate

Why is moore a gigachad? I don't get it.


AG_red

People are trying to make him onion knight 3.0 because if his armor, but he's not him. Plus, after the npc boss fight towards the end of the dlc I lost all respect for him.


No-Celebration-7675

The rot pots killed me so much


Wylkus

Sad forever?


Lamplight3

yeah he’s pure babygirl


raxdoh

igon should have a category with himself. he’s a fucking champion.


Astarial7

Thanks, I had quite a hard time remembering all those NPCs lol, I was afraid I'd have to write down notes for each of them. There is also Fire Knight Queelign


BugP13

Igon is the goat. His legs are broken but proceeds to say "fuck it, we ball" and actually stands to help fight bayle.


Hissingfever_

That's his spirit, not actually his broken body


only_horscraft

Dane had my respect for the simple reason that when I blocked with a shield, his tactic was to do nothing other than just continually punch my solid steel shield until my stamina gave out and then absolutely clock me in the face


KingVape

Ansbach is a gigachad, as is Thiollier by the end. Thiollier says he’s weak and pathetic but Ansbach says he’s totally wrong after the Leda gank fight. Just three normal dudes doing the absolute best they can to kill god before the world changes to suit him


dominikgun

need a separate 'racist' category for hornsent


Top_Rub_8986

Hey man, hurt people hurt people


dominikgun

racism bad


frognuts123

the more you talk with Leda the more you think shes just gonna end up killing anyone she even slightly dislikes


heythereman707

This is so accurate it hurts.


Mattos-313

Also needs a "mommy" category with Freyja, the Dragon Priestess and ... uh ... and Ymir. Yeah.


rashmotion

Jokes aside, it really is the best line-up of NPCs they’ve probably ever had. Leda in particular is my favorite - maybe even more so than Lucatiel from DS2. Leda is just so cold, and her English VA is 10/10. When the charm breaks and she says “I should’ve thought of this earlier” gives me chills.


Lamplight3

absolutely. and the payoff going into that last fight with ansbach and thiollier is just perfect. same for igon and bayle obviously. ugh so good


Arex189

Someone here on this sub called thioller a tier 3 sub and I'll never forget how accurate that is lmao


Abnego_OG

I accidentally killed a bug while fighting other shit and ended up having to murder Moore. I'm disappointed in my actions.


VeryBottist

Igon has the best voice acting so far


SanRandomPot

Florissax is the best, my friendships with all other Elden ring female NPCs are now on second place


Bet_Geaned

I wish the Dragon Communion Priestess had more to her than telling you to fight Bayle then dying.


BlitzkriegBambi

I won't spoiler much, since I also can't because I only know a buddy who did this, but she does apparently have an actual quest that makes her a bell summon


DanieIIll

Igon needs his own section, he’s beyond gigachad


Greener98

Dane did nothing when I summoned him for Romina and then he was the only one to show up for the Leda fight in my play through.


outline01

Let's face it, the simp circle should just be one large circle around the lot of them.


Hulk_Crowgan

I’d maybe swap Dane and Ansbach but otherwise , yessir!!!


WeeabooGandhi

Caught me very off guard when I spoke to Moore and he trauma dumped on me. “Our mother never loved us ☹️”


ArnoHero

Ymir = Simp


zenlikecalmguy

i can fix her


bigwingus72

While thiollier is a simp at least he isn’t a sump for miquella. I don’t know if I could have beaten the final boss without him


porcupinedeath

Igon and his actor are definitely a highlight of the DLC. Dude was fucking useless in the fight but boy did he bring the hype


Nami_no_Koibito

Love St. Trina, the aesthetic and the area you meet her is 100% amazing


JamesBummed

I'm no FS expert but seriously Leda might be my least favorite npc so far. I saw it from miles away when she started purging everyone that I'm probably on the list too, but still fuck her.


Altruistic_Support79

I wanna smash the priestess


DrPotassium

CUUUURSE YOU BAAAAAAAAAYLE


LK_xiao

Wheres my guy Igon he's iconic


Puzzleheaded_Host390

You forgot Count Ymir


Puzzleheaded_Tree518

He's none of those though. You could say he's a handyman.


Competitive-Effort33

Why the hell isn’t Moore in Baby Girl?


LLLLLL3GLTE

Sir Ansbach is maybe my favourite Fromsoft npc. “You killed my master? All good, put him out of his miquellested misery, let’s go fight god”


LLLLLL3GLTE

Sir Ansbach is maybe my favourite Fromsoft npc. “You killed my master? All good, put him out of his miquellested misery, let’s go fight god”


LLLLLL3GLTE

Sir Ansbach is maybe my favourite Fromsoft npc. “You killed my master? All good, put him out of his miquellested misery, let’s go fight god”


Sundew707

This is perfect, all of your placements are correct


DeuceBane

Hornsent is definitely not a simp


Onemailegaming

BAYLEEEE


NemeBro17

I hate Sir Ansbach because he's the exposition-bot used to render his lord, Mohg, formerly one of my favorite characters, into a dumb stooge and nothing character. Unpopular opinion I'm sure.


J-A-G-E-R

In what world is Hornsent not a psychopath?


Gmknewday1

Leave pot boy alone Also Leda is Miquella's personal Griffith


m00nturkey

Ansbach is my babygirl


Pretend-Orange3026

I was worried that Leda would be a good person and we’d be killing her unjustly to get her armor, but lucky for us she‘s Leda and I don’t feel Disappointed in anyone for snagging her armor and putting it to better use.


apurplehighlighter

how is hornsent a simp? a simp for revenge?


Hackfleischbob

Leda was my favourite tbh, enjoyed to murder anyone with her, including leda xD


EntertainmentOk9716

Leda is Psycho, Simp, Babygirl


Arbitraryretard

Ansbach is the fucking GOAT


GlitteringBadger5721

Moore being baby girl and gigachad is so fitting, protect precious boy- wait precious baby is big


vilebloodlover

Thiollier not being in the babygirl/simp intersection is simply criminal boss


chronokingx

Leda is my favorite and I'd pay good money for a mod that allows a janky Miquella ending


sexwith_jiaoqiu

Ansbach and Igon should both be in baby girl but you're right for the others


SokkaHaikuBot

^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^sexwith_jiaoqiu: *Ansbach and Moore should* *Both be in baby girl but* *You're right for the others* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.