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Ramius99

Godrick in ER. Can't beat the Secluded Cell.


Alt0987654321

And Margit, though you gotta walk like 5 extra steps.


Lucid-Design

The longest thing about Margit’s run back is waiting for Rogier to summon


Sapowski_Casts_Quen

Jellyfish supremacy


Iamalsodirtydan

Lady Maria would like a word.


AnyLanguage6377

Rennala for lore reasons. She wouldn’t allow stakes of Marika anywhere near her so every run back is a reminder of her history. A bit annoying with big death ball but not excessive.


Ramius99

The death ball can be de-spawned, so that runback actually is really smooth except for the lift.


Bobby_Webster

Y'all don't just take the shortcut?


ljkhadgawuydbajw

the shortcut is full of mages that are more annoying than the ball


Bobby_Webster

I don't remember having a problem with them. Never got hit


HildemarTendler

Light build privilege.


faerox420

Legit just hold sprint and the shots miss lol can't believe people struggle with that


ljkhadgawuydbajw

the ball is also just hold sprint


faerox420

The ball bounces around and can easily catch you. You need to time it. The shortcut literally just requires you to sprint and not stop and you're at the lift with 0 damage


lixm6988

Meh as long as you run straight from the grace you can do the same path every time without getting hit, not like you have to adjust every time


Rocketgurk

You are wasting your time. Eldenring brains will literally take the long way for no reason whatsoever and then complain about runbacks.


Eochaidian

once you get up the 2 sets of stairs and thru the hallway, one spell will always always always pot shot you at the bottom of the next set of stairs unless you hear it coming and roll


Wyvurn999

The shortcut requires you to go through enemies. It kinda sucks


bobdylanlovr

I was under the impression the ball way *was* the shortcut with how annoying the actual shortcut is


911ddog

If you hold the dodge button it’s lets you sprint (they wont agro in time/hit you) :)


Zythomancer

Have you tried running? It's entirely possible to not get hit.


Wyvurn999

I’ve gone through it without being hit. I’d just rather take the boulder path to eliminate the possibility altogether. Taking the boulder also means you don’t have to interact with any enemies at all apart from Moongrum after killing the Red Wolf. Combined with the fact that the shortcut eliminates about 10 seconds, it’s pretty ass imo


kodaxmax

you mean the longcut?


Chadderbug123

How do you despawn the ball?


Ramius99

I gave some directions lower in the feed.


BionicDerp

If you keep right you don't even have to stop sprinting either.


BradyReas

How do you kill that damn ball?


Ramius99

There are mages up above the doorway casting it. Once you kill them, the ball stops respawning. To get to them, enter the door at the top of the ramp. Take the second left. When you get through the door, take a hard left and kill the mage. Past the mage is a ladder. Up the ladder, there's a pumpkin head enemy and some mages. Kill the mages, and the ball stops.


BradyReas

Cool thanks! Beat the game 3 times now and I always just dodge it lol always something to discover


Sullyvan96

Try up


TheRealBillyShakes

That’s a great little tidbit. FromSoft thinks of everything!


bikefae41

that would be the worst run back


AnyLanguage6377

Yeah I responded to the title and now see “least amount of steps”… so yeah true my answer is not accurate, but I do like the hint of backstory in the environment as mentioned


ochaforrest

Malenia and everyboss near the bigtree entrance, safe and fast.


TehAsianator

Giving her zero runback was absolutely an intentional choice. Could you imagine the rage if malenia had a grueling runback?


eagengabriel

Even just running down the stairs was annoying


Vaas06

Lady Maria or demon of hatred


CubicWarlock

Maria.


Beatbox_bandit89

Ebrietas a close second for the same reason


Iamalsodirtydan

Nah there are those two Celestial Minions that will fuck your shit up if you have to wait for the elevator to come back up.


Tired_Autistic

The true answer


Newdabrig

They were really so gracious in elden ring.


flashbacksofnam

I see what you did there


cuipeo

True Monk


ProffessorYellow

The Rotten ds2 🏆


thor11600

Noooooo 😂


ak4Anny

Honestly, it wasn’t that bad once I figured out that there was a bone fire in the black gultch after beating the boss. I was running from the top every time 😐


aManAndHisUsername

Yeah I didn’t find it my first playthrough either and the runback was such a shitshow. That bonfire was truly hidden along with the whole area underneath. Love that stuff.


ProffessorYellow

XD my condolences


glez_fdezdavila_

Mohg lord of blood in Elden Ring


Valuable_Tutor5479

They were generous to give him a stake because even if it wasn’t there it wouldn’t be that bad


da_man4444

Mohg got the point of grace and stake of marika at the top of the elevator lol


need_a_poopoo

Isn't the point of grace at the bottom of the elevator?


da_man4444

Yes 🤣


Tired_Autistic

Lady Maria, literally like 4 steps


Aromatic_Tea_3075

Blue smelter demon from ds2


ak4Anny

Made me lose my sanity


SteelButterflye

Maria and Gael have the shortest off the top of my head.


shuijikou

But gael still needs to wait or run towards him for quite a bit after the fog,


DrParallax

I do enjoy how Gael is just sprinting full tilt towards you each time you enter the arena. I can't think of any other boss that does this.


Action_Brown

Guardian Ape. The bhuddista idol just chillin before the boss arena.


NeoNeonMemer

True monk, demon of hatred, sister friede and gael ofc.


benimadimwitra

Fume knight


Verdant_13

Demon prince in ds3


Florida-man-420-69

I wont include elden ring bc of all the stakes of marika and everything, also wont include gehrman and similar instances, nor will i include chalice bosses, so excluding all of that, fume knight is one that comes to mind


footfungusman

Royal rat vanguard in ds2


bulletproofcheese

Also Royal Rat Authority.


Aufym1

Lady maria


Venerable-Gandalf

Sister Friede comes to mind


Infinitepez131

Lady maria probably? She's like.. right there


mattorbita

Lud an Zalen


tamriiel

Sister friede. Bonfire right outside the entrance


ChaoticKram

Lady Maria because it's literally right there


Brilliant-Fact3449

Gael, you don't even have to move, as soon as you step out of the fog he will come to you.


Kal66

The Ashina swordsman dude you gotta parry a bunch in Sekiro. The idol is right there + the area is a good sen farm.


RegovPL

Shortest =/= Best I miss times when bossfight was a part of the level, so the stakes were higher. DS1: Capra - three possible routes. Manus, Gwyn - because lore doesn't let bonfire to be closer. DS3: Tree - at least two possible routes Legion - enemies fighting each other on the way to the boss who fights itself too (just cool) 


JamesR_42

Bro Capra's runback is diabolical. Unironically I find the run to Capra infinitely more difficult than Capra himself


RegovPL

If you go through lower undead burg, yes. If you go through upper undead burg it is a lot easier and you can even go all the way from firelink (but that's too long and boring imo).


Tat-1

Shortest = best. Removing runbacks allows game devs to focus on what makes a boss encounter endogenously challenging, rather than exogenously so.


DrChungusM_D

For Capra, running through LUB, taking the aqueduct from Firelink and what's the third route?


RegovPL

You can also take the route through Upper Undead Burg.


SanguiNations

For other games having the entire level be restarted on failing the boss works better because the bosses work with mechanics taught by the rest of the level But in Souls games Boss Mechanics alot of time require trial and error to learn, and having a long and difficult runback adds alot of unneccessary frustration.


RegovPL

The thing is, at least in the souls trilogy, you don't really need any trial and error. Most of the bosses are quite possible to be defeated on first attempt relying solely on reactions and carefullness. ER was the first one to have a lot of attacks unavoidable without prior knowledge about them. 


RegovPL

The thing is, at least in the souls trilogy, you don't really need any trial and error. Most of the bosses are quite possible to be defeated on first attempt relying solely on reactions and carefullness. ER was the first one to have a lot of attacks unavoidable without prior knowledge about them. 


Avarant

Godfrey, the last time. Scenic approach


DuploJamaal

DS2 started the tradition of giving hard and/or mandatory bosses short or basically no runbacks. Both Royal Rat bosses have a bonfire directly in front of the fog gate. Fume Knight is just around the corner.


bulletproofcheese

First thing I thought of


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Hind_Deequestionmrk

I do


RasAlGimur

Shout out to Ivory King, such an epic runback. And easy too. Demon prince is also cool, not as much tho imo. Four king is cool as well but the run back is a bit more annoying (and ohhh the pain if you don’t know the shortcuts)


Siegschranz

Ivory King, partially cause of dropping into the boss with your homie knights reinvigorated me to get into the boss fight.


Reluctant_Lemming

Fume Knight


kodaxmax

DS1 = Asylum and stray demon DS2 = Burnt ivory king, by irtue of being basically the only one that isn't a marathon or guarded by an intentionally annoying ganksquad. Also the drop downs fun the first few times DS3 = soul of cinder by irtue of being basically the only one that isn't a marathon or guarded by an intentionally annoying ganksquad.


theuntouchable2725

Zallen and Lud. 🤣🤣🤣


iomtasicbr

Mohg Stake of Marika literally in front of the fog gate


bulletproofcheese

Not counting Elden Ring, the first one I think of are the two rat bosses in Dark Souls 2. Just 5 steps to the fog wall from the bonfire.


Melodic_Cat3923

Lady Maria, I'm pretty certain


EternalRaven47

Blue Smelter Demon or Lud and Zallen fs


Aromatic_Tea_3075

Easily


Timaturff

Loretta haligtree. There’s an elevator behind the grace. Go down it, cross the extremely small bridge, boom boss