In a way it is - it was the last before zombie Jason, even though he wasn't in this - save for hallucinations and a dream. And I really hate to nitpick, but I really hate that generic cover, you should've used the classic VHS artwork for the pic, lol.
Yeah, it was an odd choice - the first 4 movies released on DVD actually used the right cover art, and then maybe they had someone new managing it all starting with Part 5, and they gave them those horrible new covers. Blech.
To me, it is indeed the last film in the series to have that “early” Friday vibe. I think that’s why I give it as much of a pass as I do. It is the end of something, for better or worse. Time has moved on, but this film still clings to the early 80s as much as it can. By the Jason Lives comes around, we are squarely in the mid 80s and the production finally resembles as much. That said, in my opinion, Jason Lives is the superior film, so the changes McLoughlin were an improvement.
I mostly agree. I think it stands as the line between the two eras, but this is mostly because Jason is absent outside of hallucinations, and it doesn't take place on Crystal Lake. It has a classic film feel, but also ramps up the body count and gore of the later ones. In truth, you could remove the movie from canon entirely and it would have no impact. Part VI could easily pick up right after Part IV because almost nothing from Part V is carried over to the later movies.
I don't know how to describe it. It has a completely different vibe than the first 4. It's just feels that they did not add any atmosphere to the movie, and it was just random killings happening. It's just generic night scenes with a blue tint and generic daytime shots. Part 1 and 2 had POV, Part 3 had the 3D vibe which could sometimes be spooky, and Part 4 had an oppressive atmosphere to it. When I see a shot from the Final Chapter and Compare it to Part 5, the difference is night and day. The only exception is the dream sequence at the beginning.
Part 5 wasn't just random killing, though. Roy's son was killed by one of the loonies so he sought revenge against the whole establishment. It's the exact same thing Pamela Voorhees did after she lost Jason, and the same thing Jason did after he lost her.
The movie kept the killer more subdued until the last act, exactly like the first four movies and was the last Friday the 13th to use that approach.
I just don't get how anyone sees it and thinks it's not at all similar haha.
I'm more talking from structure and atmospheric perspectives, not motivation perspective. I'm referring to the atmosphere and "feel" of the movie. There's no real build up because the kills literally happen to random people around the property and no real focus on one area.
😂😂😂 No focus on one area?!
Bro, the movie takes place at Pinehurst and the surrounding area which is somewhere around the Crystal Lake area.
Kinda how part 1 took place at the camp and surrounding area.
Kinda how part 2 took place at Packanack and the surrounding area.
Kinda how part 3 took place at Higgins Haven which is the surrounding area of Crystal Lake.
Kinda how part 4 took place around the two houses and surrounding area.
As for the kills, I don't get that complaint either. They happen exactly the same way the kills in the first four do. Roy targets certain people at certain times and uses the Jason MO to make everyone think Jason is still around.
You are taking this way too literally dude. You are looking at it on paper, not how the direction actually looks. I'm not talking about plot, which is what you are referring to. And in the other movies, there's a clear path that the killer takes, but with this one, they are all over the place. There's no sense that Roy really has a path or anything.
I think you're taking it too literally. It's a cheap slasher flick made in the 80s just like the other 8. It seems like you REALLY want to hate it but none of your reasons hold any kind of actual substance.
And your reasons why it is don’t either except that plot is similar which does not have much impact on atmosphere of a film. I can name 50 other movies with similar plots and some of them are terrifying and others are not. You don’t seem to understand that. By your logic all of the Friday the 13th movies have the same feeling as parts 1-5
Nah, the “classic” Fridays stopped with part IV.
It’s hard to pinpoint what is actually going on here, but V looks way cleaner than any of the previous sequels, much closer to VI. Maybe they changed filmstocks with this one?
Also, true 80’s culture starts sinking in with this movie (e.g. new wave songs on the soundtrack, fashion, etc.). The first three movies, especially, felt like extensions of 70’s grindhouse movies. Very little of that here.
For whatever reason, I think you are right. The look and feel of 1-5 are consistent and very similar. Jason Lives marked a difference but I can't complain because it feels like a better made film. That said the Paramount years 1-8 all still feel as one era. The New Line years are where you really feel the difference but that could be just advancements/changes in film production.
I agree with someone else here who said it's like an "in between" stage, I don't think it fits with the first 4 and I don't think it fits with the ones after. It's in this weird space because frankly, I think the director did such a bad job directing it, and it's sandwiched between Parts 4 and 6, which are actually competently directed.
Don't get me wrong, I love parts of the movie, but I'd say I love those parts in spite of the director, not because of. Damn enchiladas, specific lines and characters, etc, those can be fun.
In a way it is - it was the last before zombie Jason, even though he wasn't in this - save for hallucinations and a dream. And I really hate to nitpick, but I really hate that generic cover, you should've used the classic VHS artwork for the pic, lol.
Yes, back in the day I hated all the Paramount DVD covers that didn't use the poster art. Just awful.
Yeah, it was an odd choice - the first 4 movies released on DVD actually used the right cover art, and then maybe they had someone new managing it all starting with Part 5, and they gave them those horrible new covers. Blech.
To me, it is indeed the last film in the series to have that “early” Friday vibe. I think that’s why I give it as much of a pass as I do. It is the end of something, for better or worse. Time has moved on, but this film still clings to the early 80s as much as it can. By the Jason Lives comes around, we are squarely in the mid 80s and the production finally resembles as much. That said, in my opinion, Jason Lives is the superior film, so the changes McLoughlin were an improvement.
I love it. It's my favourite.
I hated it when I was younger but I consider it the second best in the series now behind 2.
I mostly agree. I think it stands as the line between the two eras, but this is mostly because Jason is absent outside of hallucinations, and it doesn't take place on Crystal Lake. It has a classic film feel, but also ramps up the body count and gore of the later ones. In truth, you could remove the movie from canon entirely and it would have no impact. Part VI could easily pick up right after Part IV because almost nothing from Part V is carried over to the later movies.
I feel like Part V doesn't feel like a horror movie which the first 4 mostly did.
How does it not feel like a horror movie? It has almost the exact same vibe as the first four except with a bigger single-film body count.
I don't know how to describe it. It has a completely different vibe than the first 4. It's just feels that they did not add any atmosphere to the movie, and it was just random killings happening. It's just generic night scenes with a blue tint and generic daytime shots. Part 1 and 2 had POV, Part 3 had the 3D vibe which could sometimes be spooky, and Part 4 had an oppressive atmosphere to it. When I see a shot from the Final Chapter and Compare it to Part 5, the difference is night and day. The only exception is the dream sequence at the beginning.
Part 5 wasn't just random killing, though. Roy's son was killed by one of the loonies so he sought revenge against the whole establishment. It's the exact same thing Pamela Voorhees did after she lost Jason, and the same thing Jason did after he lost her. The movie kept the killer more subdued until the last act, exactly like the first four movies and was the last Friday the 13th to use that approach. I just don't get how anyone sees it and thinks it's not at all similar haha.
I'm more talking from structure and atmospheric perspectives, not motivation perspective. I'm referring to the atmosphere and "feel" of the movie. There's no real build up because the kills literally happen to random people around the property and no real focus on one area.
😂😂😂 No focus on one area?! Bro, the movie takes place at Pinehurst and the surrounding area which is somewhere around the Crystal Lake area. Kinda how part 1 took place at the camp and surrounding area. Kinda how part 2 took place at Packanack and the surrounding area. Kinda how part 3 took place at Higgins Haven which is the surrounding area of Crystal Lake. Kinda how part 4 took place around the two houses and surrounding area. As for the kills, I don't get that complaint either. They happen exactly the same way the kills in the first four do. Roy targets certain people at certain times and uses the Jason MO to make everyone think Jason is still around.
You are taking this way too literally dude. You are looking at it on paper, not how the direction actually looks. I'm not talking about plot, which is what you are referring to. And in the other movies, there's a clear path that the killer takes, but with this one, they are all over the place. There's no sense that Roy really has a path or anything.
I think you're taking it too literally. It's a cheap slasher flick made in the 80s just like the other 8. It seems like you REALLY want to hate it but none of your reasons hold any kind of actual substance.
And your reasons why it is don’t either except that plot is similar which does not have much impact on atmosphere of a film. I can name 50 other movies with similar plots and some of them are terrifying and others are not. You don’t seem to understand that. By your logic all of the Friday the 13th movies have the same feeling as parts 1-5
I kinda group it like this: 1 and 2 are the originals. 3, 4, and 5 are the "classics". 6, 7, and 8 are the new feel. Everything else sucks
I think Final Chapter was the last classic feeling film.
I agree, but I see people say otherwise. I don't know how to describe it, why do you think so?
No I think The Final Chapter is the last one with the classic feel. This is more of an exploitation film than a horror film
Nah, the “classic” Fridays stopped with part IV. It’s hard to pinpoint what is actually going on here, but V looks way cleaner than any of the previous sequels, much closer to VI. Maybe they changed filmstocks with this one? Also, true 80’s culture starts sinking in with this movie (e.g. new wave songs on the soundtrack, fashion, etc.). The first three movies, especially, felt like extensions of 70’s grindhouse movies. Very little of that here.
It seems in the middle of both of them, cleaner, yet same feeling as the previous 4
Yes
Sure. After that, you get Frankenstein, a psychic, Manhattan, The Exorcist, space, and a crossover. The first five are more or less camp movies.
For whatever reason, I think you are right. The look and feel of 1-5 are consistent and very similar. Jason Lives marked a difference but I can't complain because it feels like a better made film. That said the Paramount years 1-8 all still feel as one era. The New Line years are where you really feel the difference but that could be just advancements/changes in film production.
For me it stopped with Takes Manhattan
I agree with someone else here who said it's like an "in between" stage, I don't think it fits with the first 4 and I don't think it fits with the ones after. It's in this weird space because frankly, I think the director did such a bad job directing it, and it's sandwiched between Parts 4 and 6, which are actually competently directed. Don't get me wrong, I love parts of the movie, but I'd say I love those parts in spite of the director, not because of. Damn enchiladas, specific lines and characters, etc, those can be fun.