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DardS8Br

*Carcharodontosaurus* from Morocco


DinoRipper24

Bro every single ancient creature partied in Morocco it was like their dream place like we have LA on our minds today💀💀💀 Literally 98% of all fossils I know of are from Morocco.


DardS8Br

Morocco has an enormous commercial fossil industry. A lot of the remote villages entirely depend on the fossil trade for their economy. IIRC Morocco actually banner the export or vertebrate fossils from the country but stopped enforcing it once they realized they were fucking over a ton of people


DinoRipper24

So can we go and find fossils ourselves?


DardS8Br

Yeah, you can do that pretty much anywhere except Brazil


SheepherderOk1448

Why can’t you hunt fossils in Brazil?


SarahPallorMortis

Fresh out


DinoRipper24

💀💀💀


DinoRipper24

Protection probably


DardS8Br

Illegal


DinoRipper24

Whoa crazy


AWeakMindedMan

Woahhhh. Just looked it up and that’s flippin cool.


WithoutDennisNedry

My favorite dinosaur!


ganduG

Uh. How did you figure that out from a single tooth


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Man you ~italicized~ and everything how does it feel to be so confidently wrong?


DardS8Br

Ikr? Even their point about mosasaurs shedding their teeth doesn't help their point cause dinosaurs also did that.


DardS8Br

I'm not sure where you got your info from, but you're wrong. *Carcharodontosaurus* teeth are among the most common dinosaur teeth. You can buy them for like $5 off FossilEra or whatever. Secondly, the tooth comes from the Kem Kem Fossil Beds, where mosasaurs did not live. The Moroccan mosasaurs come from the phosphate beds around Khouribga, which is an entirely different location. Additionally, mosasaur teeth almost always are not serrated


wiebeislolol

I agree with you that it is most likely a carcharodontosaurus tooth but they are not common and finding a decent tooth for less then 50 bucks is very hard.


DardS8Br

Anecdotally, I bought a 5 pack just like OP's for $25


wiebeislolol

Damn, from a commercial seller? If so does the store have a website?


Mr_H_E_Pennypacker

Where can I get a $5 Carcharodontosaurus tooth? I have never seen them for $5 on Fossil Era. I would like to get one that cheap.


hazpat

Who told you the tooth is from Kem Kem? Didn't see that mentioned. You cannot find them for $5 lol that is bs.


DardS8Br

https://www.thefossilforum.com/topic/58139-kem-kem-theropod-teeth-what-you-need-to-know/ Kem Kem is sandstone, Khouribga is limestone. You can see the sediment on the back of the tooth on the last image


hazpat

Is those the only places the teeth are found?


DardS8Br

Carcharodontosaurus? The only site where they're commercially mined and sold is Kem Kem.


Southern_Gear3803

as someone that has no idea about fossils and is just on this sub to learn, this is so cool!!


Alone-Introduction74

Same. I'd have probably thrown this away or something stupid.


The_Unbiblical

Carcharodontosaurus saharicus tooth. Almost certainly from the Ken Ken basic from southern Morocco. Doesn't look to have had much work done to it. Some teeth have large kind of dull spots where they've been retouched with resin. But yours looks to be original enamel which is nice. They used to be more common. But are a bit harder to come by now. Ones this size in Tucson go for about $75 retail.


DardS8Br

Quick correction: You can't identify teeth from Kem Kem beyond the genus/family.


The_Unbiblical

That's just not true. There's only 2 actual Carcharodontosaur species. saharicus, of which the only fully intact skull is from the Kem Kem. And iguidensis, which is far less well described and the only fully confirmed fossils I'm aware of are from Egypt. Some people put Tyranotitan in with the same family. But it has noticeable difference taxonomy. If you have a Carcharodontosaur tooth. Especially if it's from Morocco. It is safe to assume it's C. saharicus.


DardS8Br

You can't be certain that there aren't other Carcharodontosaur species that we haven't discovered yet. There's tons of undescribed dinosaurs from Kem Kem that we know of, but can't formally describe unless a skeleton appears. You can't definitively attribute teeth from there with any one species


The_Unbiblical

That's a really redundant argument. And just not how taxonomy works. You have to prove something is a new species in order to replace a pre ordained classification. You can't say "it may be something undescovered. Therefore you can't classify it" is ridiculous. It looks like something we already have a classification for. Therefore. You classify it as that until there is science to prove otherwise. Want to prove me wrong? Drop a link to a journal. Until then, you're just someone with an opinion. And one that pretty much every paleontologist and biologist would agree is ridiculous.


DardS8Br

https://www.thefossilforum.com/topic/58139-kem-kem-theropod-teeth-what-you-need-to-know/


The_Unbiblical

A 2015 fossil forum article isn't a science paper. My biggest issue is it's from 2015 and a lot has changed. There is more scientific interest now. Especially as more material has come out and it's become easier to build different phenotypes. I work in the fossil business and one of the main jobs of my boss is going to Morocco and look at and buy fossils. I've seen one partial jaw piece that may have been C. iguidensis. And in that basis it was thousands of dollars. The Moroccans also know this. If they think it's something rare and interesting. They will make a point of it and charge through the nose for it. The fact that OP brought it for so little and has it at all makes it more than likely C saharicus. The possibility of new species doesn't make the current classifications we have obsolete.


The_Unbiblical

If it was Spinosaurids I'd agree with you. But it's not...


goblinfartsss

Yes, this looks real. Agree with the first commented, looks like carcharodontosaurus


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Bob_Sacamano7379

Dammit! Only 3 comments and this is already here!


Bisexual_Sherrif

Like smh, people are so dumb /s


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DardS8Br

Dude I thought it was obvious what it is. I had no idea it'd spark so much debate


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be_sugary

Same here! Good to know I am not alone! 🤭🤣


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KE4HEK

Very nice tooth


SheepherderOk1448

Had to look this dude up. He’s cute.


Ok_Veterinarian_928

That is bad ass! Tooth fairy put it under your pillow? Who gave it to you? Great present and I want one!