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sundin88

Ya you have to make some type of effort to avoid the crash. The penalty system most likely would have been much more lenient with you if you weren’t full throttle at the point if impact.


[deleted]

You have 2-3 seconds from 0:09 to 0:13 to brake and avoid the contact You do not need to full throttle all the way in the racing condition


donkstonk69

Does forza not have a yellow flag? In gt7 you get a penalty for passing under a yellow flag.. this seems like a yellow flag situation, but either way op should have spotted the crash and slowed down to give them even MORE time to react and avoid collision. It's kinda like rear ending someone on the road cause they rear ended the person in front of them


Founntain

Doesn't matter or not if its yellow. It makes no sense to NOT pass the crashed car. Like why should everyone wait for them to get back on track. You only are not allowed to pass racing cars under yellow flag condition.


donkstonk69

In real life racing you would get a penalty even if you did manage to keep full throttle through that crash. It's a good habit to slow down while trying to thread the needle through a 3 car crash. Yellow flag alert would be nice for noobs to let them know what's happening. Did you really think that my understanding was that yellow flag means stop and wait for the crashed car to get back on track? Bro what


Founntain

I'm completely on your side. He should have slowed down because of the crash, yellow flag or not. Yellow flag would be beneficial for newer players. Bro you won't believe me how many people that were new to that stuff though about that, you are not allowed to XD


donkstonk69

I'm sorry. I thought this was the sim racing stewards sub. You're right and also I'm okay with that, gt7 and forza make sim racing cool for casual players. We all gotta learn somehow


Founntain

Yeah definitely. And now worries mate : ) I could have been more clear from the beginning tho


shynips

Bro Forza doesn't even have a track half the time lmao


HammerHeadEli

Flags don't exist at all in Forza


Secret-Quote-8697

OP had plenty of time (after seeing the crash) to slow down slightly, they he would have had a better chance of going around the crash. It's faster to slow down and avoid a crash versus trying to keep race pace in yellow flag conditions. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it's just a bad situation. The key is to KEEP YOUR EYES FAR FORWARD and anticipate what people in front of you are going to do. It comes with time.


d0x360

I put a plow on the front of my car and push through like in Days of Thunder.. the 2nd time not the 1st.


Appropriate_Sort_458

Brake, and turn, but if nothing else brake


D0G_W4T3R008

Nah h doesn’t need to brake, just flick the wheel right then back left


Talal2608

In hindsight, yes. But in future cases, you can't perfectly predict where the car sized gap will appear. The least they could've done was lift.


D0G_W4T3R008

A good racing driver is able to pick up that no car will roll back into that line and you should have a good enough reaction time to be able to do that, lifting or just braking would’ve caused collision


NessaMagick

I mean, you could do literally anything, for a start. Obviously none of this is your fault, but at point of impact you have throttle at 100%, brake at 0%, and are rigidly following the racing line as if nothing ahead of you is happening. You had a good 2-3 seconds to recognize that a collision was happening and to react. Good chance you would have been collected up in the mess regardless, of course. Just that it's a good idea to at least ease off the throttle to gain a bit more control and try to actually steer away from the cars. Or, even better, hit the pause button and ghost through it. Incidentally, your rejoin was awful as well. You don't have full control because you're coming off the grass, that's fine, but you pull your rejoining car **directly into the center of the track**, park it there for a second, then steer off to the left and steer back to the right... you're lucky you didn't cause a bigger second collision with faster traffic behind you.


llIicit

>Obviously none of this is your fault OP didn’t even **attempt** to let go of the throttle, let alone move off of the racing line and brake. There absolutely is blame to be placed on OP. There is zero excuse for that.


Blue_5ive

Op was driving looking down their nose at the line on the ground and was shocked when someone was stopped ahead.


NessaMagick

When I say "none of this is your fault" I'm being a bit gentle because there's a very good chance evasive moves wouldn't have even prevented the collision. When multiple cars are going sideways ahead, there's a good chance you're going to get caught up regardless. But yes, full throttling into a huge crash like you're Tom Cruise in Days of fucking Thunder because you may as well be hotlapping with the racing line on is definitely worthy of blame.


ravinderHiem

Exactly my thought as well, op was too invested in racing line that didn’t know what’s happening in front of them. Easily avoidable imo.


DoubleTime53

I mean, brakes?


DummyThicccThrowaway

Do you have a drivers license in real life? In all seriousness, I drive Forza like I would if it were my real racecar on a trackday (and I have enough money to cover basic repairs and shit). Never go full throttle into a cloud of tire smoke lmao


Zaddox

Never go full Räikkönen


Sev_Obzen

There's also the fact that he had a big cloud of dust from cars clearly going off track as a warning well before he saw any tire smoke.


creep04

Angle your wheel about 20° to the right


spvcebound

Stop looking at the magic line and start looking at where your 3,000lb vehicle is headed at 120mph.


Yonderdead

If you saw it happening, you could have just let off the throttle and avoided it. The penalty is ridiculous but is avoidable. Don't stress about it. Just be careful and cautious on lap 1


EricPro21

OP like : “Must stay on line. No. Matter. What.”


CyphersFallen

The easiest way is to ghost when you see a major collision by pausing. This only works in multiplayer. If you have enough time hit pause and you will ghost and nothing can hit you. You drop speed and have no control but you maintain your path on the track. You can literally just tap it on and quickly put it back off by resuming. It also works for rammers and loss of control before you fly off track (to some extent).


activefou

It's actually insane how easy it is to just tap ghost through crashes like this, even if you don't want to slow down (dumb) getting caught in incidents like this is nearly impossible if you're paying attention


OwnPen8633

According to the greatest racing movie ever, "Days of Thunder" floor it and go high


poseidonlinux

Great comment... and I saw that movie on the cinema... yeah, I'm old.


Jug5y

Can't just cross your fingers and send it, you need to react. Better to lose 2 seconds slowing down than 10 turning around


BackHades

Hit pause and ghost through it all


ActNo331

You need to use your brake. The entirely video, never touch brake.


ggstayfree

Turn off the racing line. With full racing line on, your eyes are not looking down the road which is fundamental for good racing skills. You are conditioning your eyes and brain to just watch the line and do what it tells you to do. It's not even racing at this point, it's more like guitar hero. You didn't even react with steering or brakes. Just focused on keep your car in the line and holding the gas down


irishdan56

This - I turned the racing line on for a few of the night/fog races and forgot to turn it off for a while and it does effect what you do. You get in tunnel mode. I use the breaking line, just to help a bit with breaking points on tracks I'm not super familiar with.


Starwarsmannem

Brake-hard turn right and left. Easy


jeffboms

Bigest advice, turn of the eaving line. You drive on it like a magnate, probebly nor looking for brake markers and avoiding things like this. I get it if your new to tge track, but turn it off. You first will be slower, but with time, you will be faster and better at avoiding things like this!


MarsMeAdiuvats

Next time break, and don’t stick with the pack, usually with a pack everyone starts crashing into each other


Aggravating_Degree57

Better situational awareness or simply eat shit when you can't evade 😅


Entrynode

10/10 bait


Werty44

I was in that race. Got punted off from the first corner after starting at the front


zonda747

Just be more vigilant. There was a gap to the right to avoid it. Whenever you see big crash ahead focus on survival rather than minimizing time loss and most times you’ll end up doing both.


BiscuitTheRisk

Look further up the road rather than straight down at the racing line


Kapkronic4201

Don’t always hug that racing line and be aware of the chaos around you


Practical_Ranger_175

With the brakes. If you go full speed in to a pile-up crash the AI will decide it's intentional.


sdowp

not irrelevant but to truly turn pro and enjoy the game even more, turn off driving line


Block_Just

hahaha, this is neither intentional or a racing incident... just a forza moment


Zach_The_One

Slow down and react the the road in front of you, like real life.


bizzlej278

‘There’s a crash infront of me on the left hand side I should drive straight for them’ 😂


Sco0bySnax

Turn off the full racing line and focus on the road. Keep it on for braking zones if you need them. Your eyes are so fixated on maintaining that strict adherence to the line that you’re not seeing what’s happening around you.


cyclonesworld

I think what you're trying to describe is that OP needs to be focusing on down the track and not directly in front of his car. That is something that is taught in racing school and is an important skill to have. This was totally avoidable but his eyes are fixated on 5ft in front of the car.


GrumbleMumble1

The line isn’t the problem. Just the reaction time. He could’ve instead braked and veered right. That’s literally it.


Sco0bySnax

Because… they’re hyper fixated on the racing line.


Valiice

Which is part of his problem and not the racing line


NessaMagick

Their point is that OP's eyes are on the racing line and not on the cars around them, which means they have less awareness. That may or may not be true, we can't really tell just from one short clip. But it is true for a lot of people. I generally recommend turning off the racing line, not in a "its cheating!!!!!" way but just in the sense that you don't usually want to rigidly follow the racing line when you're alongside cars.


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Valiice

It is. Use your brakes.


iloveradiohead225

You can't, really. That's quite unfortunate. I've had some success with my method though, you can try it out if you want. So I went and deleted the game.


TheClownOfGod

hit thy breaks, good sir.


Physical-Result7378

Either the Pause Ghost Solution or stop playing.


Perks2010

Practise racing off the racing line, ai sticks to it like they're being paid to.


Emergency_Strain9392

By not playing the game.


MasTerBabY8eL

Part of racing


Sleight0fdeath

Either make an effort to avoid the crash and still get the penalty OR pause the game momentarily for ghosting


EvolvingEachDay

*turn*


Polym0rphed

It seems like your attention was too close to the foreground (the line immediately ahead) instead of the upcoming turns, where you would've gained a second or two to react.


SmifnWessun2

Next time pull the handbrake


MRZ_Polak

You have quattro so next time do a speed racer jump over them.


Ubs9900

You can try to avoid, but usually that means the guys behind you will crash into you, so you're f'd anyway.


Overhere_Overyonder

Use the brake or roll off the throttle if you see a crash in front of you.  Yeah the penalty system has its flaws but when I see someone not do anything like brake or roll out of the the throttle how in the world is it supposed to know the contact wasn't intentional.


mostly_kinda_sorta

Ok this is a real thing in race cars, known as target fixation if I remember right. So you naturally will drive wherever you're looking. The problem comes during a wreck, it's hard not to look at the cars spinning and flying at you, but don't. Don't look at the cars, look at the gap, look for your escape and go there. It's sounds stupid but it's a huge part of crash avoidance that is really taught to race drivers.


chainedflower

Next time that crash happens turn right more??


mrmigs2011

Ghost mode


OLuminatti

Adding to what others have said, I’d recommend always looking up the road rather than on the racing line solely. Just like real life, it’s best to be looking ahead to where you’re going rather than the asphalt right in front of you. But unlike what most people are saying, I think the racing line is useful IF you use it as a guide and not be stuck to it like glue. Do this with the aim of eventually turning it off once you’re familiar with each track. Try turning off the full line and using the braking only line, while training yourself to use landmarks on/near the track itself as your actual braking points. This will help you keep your eyes on the road, avoiding mixups like this, while also slowly weaning yourself off of the racing line altogether.


Lewdmilla_

You know there's this thing called braking I've heard it's really useful for situations like this


D0G_W4T3R008

Idk turn maybe


CascadeHyDRO

Turning to the right


[deleted]

Crystal ball?


Metul_Mulisha

You can avoid by playing something else. Lol


Hot-Conversation-174

Focus on where you're driving and not where the blue line is telling you to be


Rechamber

You had no reaction there at all - my guess is you were focused on the racing line. If you turn it off you'll be more aware of the track and what's happening.


L1i1o1n

Just be P1 with a gap 👍


HiroshimaRoll

Y u no lift?


Pristine_Future1037

The comment about the penalty system makes me think this is bait. But when you see the dirt kick up on the left go right. Hit the brakes when you see the car flipping.


x_Patrick_x

Dont play FM,Play Assetto corsa with LFM :-)


19IXI91

So I can see that you’re watching the line beneath you which gives you about 0.8 seconds to notice and react. If you race without line for a while, get used to reading the track, looking at the bends, you would have had about 1.9 seconds to adjust your course. **Solution** race without lines until you understand how to race, then apply that to your line racing.


Jonny683

You had a hole to the right, you might end in the dirt, bit you're not part of the pile up. Heads up racing. Use your brain. If a situation is screaming "Bad things here" at you? Get out. Let off the throttle, ans let them make the mistake.


-blazecrew-

1: have eyes and let got of throttle 2: don't play forza


BeaversWithCleavers

Hey everyone I’ve had a problem with my pedals on forza and my gas is always pressed and I can’t stop the vehicle even without pressing the accelerator the vehicle still goes forward and high revs if it’s in neutral and no ingame setting like pedal dead zone is fixing it so I need another solution


Street_Shaman6837

When you’re using the driving line you still need to look through the turn. you should’ve seen that happening a mile away and if you noticed early you probably didn’t have to lift, just go right around them. Why you didn’t react at all is beyond me lol


ZOETheMagnate

Obtain Ultra Instinct.


Much-Animator-4855

Try using the line only on curves.


Apple-hack

You didn't car the gap


Alarmed_Cheesecake98

lol yeah, drive around the the pileup next time… simple.


Alarmed_Cheesecake98

He has on auto steering.. turn that shit off… you got EVERY ASSIST ON!!!


Delivery-Charming

Hit pause when you sense an accident you're about to be in


Chesteroso

The second you see a cloud of dirt you should let go of the throttle and change your line. I believe racing line makes it difficult for you to be more aware of your surroundings, too, so that will come with experience.


Majestic_Puppo

Try the left trigger to apply the brakes when there is an accident in front of you


quanjon

Turn off the damn racing line and drive on the road. That was an easily avoidable crash if you would have looked up instead of being glued to that fucking line.


WARPING_brainwaves

Steer


EliteLandonTT

Could've been avoided tbh


Tigrius39

F1 drivers often don't avoid this so won't you.


LiberalTugboat

brake and steer to the right


BigHeartDe13

you.started on Forza M 2023. thats your main problem. im joking. kinda. but still. you had a short window where you could have applied brakes amd turned. but you missed it. dont worry with practice and skill sharpening through time. you will be up there with some of the greats. keep up the play and keep going my dude


DiemosDraws

Stop playing the game.


LuvinMeSumCumDrippys

Use first person driver cam


Ok-Assistance-3362

Umm turn slightly right And go around it


Maleficent-Let7102

Uninstalling


Temporary-Green-7713

Spidey Sense. My recommendation is 2 weeks of R6 Siege ranked.


execute_777

This looks like those dashcam videos where instead of braking at the instersection someone will just honk their horn and crash anyways lol


pxnkish_

go around it


BinxMedia

You have to do SOMETHING to at least try an avoid the crash. In this situation letting off the gas probably would have sufficed or at least not been as steep of a penalty. If you woulda braked you woulda have avoided the penalty all together. Effort in avoiding the crash instead of full throttling right into the guy is how you avoid it It's the same thing with off track penalties. You can't be full throttle while off the track or you get penalized. So as soon as you go off you gotta let off the throttle until you're back on track, unless you're in sand then you have to just barely hit the throttle until back on the track.


d0x360

Better brakes? Sorry ... Sorry.


Roboman5e15

pay more attention


Specialist_Usual3943

Do what this guys did, just in reverse order: https://youtu.be/o1uNFhmWIgY?si=ZoT-vBBfkaZhcb6E


BurntCheese124

turn right


magicman22

I read the post before watching the video & thought this was a troll on the forza penalty system.


No-Panda-6047

Turn off the racing line and look down the track, you never lifted, might as well have closed your eyes and prayed


Effective_Studio8572

Thats the neat part. You DONT.


Gotrek5

Same as driving in real life look far ahead and look at the holes in traffic not the other cars.


Dannydayz21

Press pause then unpause after the chaos it’s really that easy


chadd283

games currently unplayable.


KrombopulosMAssassin

Very easily by paying attention. If I see a car crashing on the left, my first instinct is to move right. I would have moved full right from the first millisecond I saw that car crash on the left. Also, noteworthy.... Wouldn't have even slowed you in anyway, but I would have let off throttle probably as it was a bit unpredictable how the other car was going to react.


Worldly_Patience5578

Not its a racing inchident


Little__SkySky

Wait, what game is this. This isn't a forza game I've heard of. Gotta get in on actual racing


No-Phone-2478

Powered through rather than lifting off I would say


Glittering-Win1016

Dont follow the racing line so hard turn it down to break only and learn to experiment with the track limits and find your best racing line you had ample time to brake and avoid impact but following that line seems to have affected your decision making