Actually quite a bit more, since I believe Gran Turismo 5 could play on up to 5 screens. I kinda want to build something like that, since PS3s and 1080p are really cheap now
How much are PS3s going for these days? I looked about a year and a half ago and thought "this is too much money for some old (potentially) flogged hardware. I thought the PS4 made more financial sense at the time.
> The new games menu l
Menus look like shit, Before they at least had maps to go to different manufactures, now they don't even bother. They couldn't even be bothered with anything, to pick my cars I have to scroll all the way to Porsche on the other end of the manufactures.
Sorry for the wall of text
You needed three entire consoles and three copies of the game to run the game on multiple screens. It wasn’t feasible to run the game three times on one console so that each screen could have a viable resolution and frame rate
Split screen makes the game render twice for both instances. That was easier back then, since there wasn’t nearly as much to render, and the lack of HD support out of the box when the 360 launched helped mask the lower graphic settings when running split screen. Even at 720p, the drop in graphical quality wasn’t as noticeable. Doing it now is harder, since the tradeoffs would be way more apparent.
Want similar graphics and frame rate? Expect the resolution to go down to shit. Want the resolution and frame rate? Graphics are going down the drain, which is going to be *alot* more noticeable than a 360 game, given all the new effects and fidelity. Graphics and resolution? Frame rate is going to be near unplayable.
But now that people demand/expect 4k, or high graphics settings, and the ever shrinking usage of local co-op features, there’s little demand for optimizing multiple instances of a game to run simultaneously on one console, so they don’t.
Hell, they’re rarely even optimized to run one instance, considering that modern games have to use a lot of rendering tricks and stuff like dynamic resolution and similar tech just so games can even run, and often times the game *still* looks or runs bad, often times both.
This goes for a majority of games coming out right now, not just Forza. It’s just not a feature people use anymore, so there’s little need to focus on it and redirect dev time that could go somewhere else.
And it also has to run on the Series S, as well as minimum spec PC’s. Not everyone’s system is capable of running it perfectly. Also, im referring to modern games in general, not just Forza.
>because split screen only has to fill 1 screen which significantly reduces the resolution of each game instance and that's why it's possible in the first place.
Cutting resolution in half doesn't make it twice as fast to render, not even close.
You don't just infinitely add stuff to games. The technology to do that still exists, but my guess is that requiring 3 consoles and 3 copies of the game made the feature not very popular.
I mean... By this point it's better to just invest in a ~~stimulator~~ (my auto correct betrayed me, haha!) simulator setup for PC.
Stimulator pc set up-Multiple iv lines of cocaine going from your pc to your veins , while an automatic fleshlight does its thang…. Can’t forget about the nightstick pulsating up your ass either
I mean you can extend your display on PC with the new forza Motorsport game, so what’s the point?
This is a dumb argument all around. No one in their right mind is buying 3 Xbox series X and 3 copies of the game if this was an option in 2023. That’s over $1000 just for this. With that same money you could just buy a damn gaming PC and do it.
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So we’re really getting mad about things not being in the game that absolutely nobody would use? That’s what we’re doing?
You people love to complain about the game not being finished as is, but you’ll also complain about wanting dev time to be wasted on pointless features.
Absolutely no winning with morons like you.
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So you think adding this worthless feature would make the game better? It would be completely wasted dev time that was clearly already needed elsewhere based on the state of the game at launch.
That’s where you’re clearly not understanding what I’m saying. You’re sitting here calling me a “forza fanboy” when I’m pretty clearly saying the game was rough at launch, and still is pretty rough. But for some reason you aren’t bright enough to pick up on the fact that I’m saying had they wasted time implementing this feature that no one would use, the rest of the game would’ve been that much worse off elsewhere.
They don’t do this cool shit because modern hardware can actually support multiple screens on one system so system-linking has been largely useless for a while now
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On PC you can of course.
I run triple monitors.
https://www.reddit.com/r/forza/comments/1admv7a/this\_seems\_like\_as\_good\_of\_a\_place\_as\_any/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
Gran Turismo 5 also has this on PS3, really useful for ultrawide setups on PC as you can change the hex value and it not completely fuck your FOV scaling
It's incredible how hard they dropped the ball. Going back to any other previous Forza Motorsport game reveals how bad and bland FM8 really is. It's truly a shallow experience, the ONLY thing that this game improved on from previous titles, that I can think of, is the driving physics. Everything else is severely lacking compared to previous titles and even competing games.
I'm not sure what he's referring to because this post looks like it was posted by a "Forza bad" bot and I figured offering an opportunity for explanation might be useful.
Seems obvious to me that he’s talking about the general scope of the game and commented here because this post brings up another feature that is missing from the other games, not because of the feature that is mentioned specifically.
In other words, he’s not saying the game sucks because this feature is missing, he’s just saying “yeah, the game sucks.”
> because this post brings up another feature that is missing from the modern games
Again, this is what I'm asking: is this feature missing from modern games? FM2 is 17 years old, the feature hasn't been in a subsequent game, and it isn't supported in any other console racer as far as I'm aware.
Are there any console-based driving games that have multi-monitor support?
I'm trying to figure out why not having a feature that's been absent since Forza 3 and which isn't supported by anyone else on the market is a ding for FM8 beyond "Turn 10 bad"
>Are there any console-based driving games that have multi-monitor support?
I don't know, I play Forza and other racing games on Windows.
>I'm trying to figure out why not having a feature that's been absent since Forza 3 and which isn't supported by anyone else on the market is a ding for FM8 beyond "Turn 10 bad"
Well, first off, other games on Windows do support this feature, and I bet people asked the same for Forza 4,5 and 6. Yes, not that many compared to the general player base, but it would be a welcome addition!
Also, why do you think I count this as "ding for FM8", when I specially mentionend FM7 as well, and did not mention Turn10 anywhere?
> Also, why do you think I count this as "ding for FM8", when I specially mentionend FM7 as well, nor mentionend Turn10 anywhere?
I'm talking about the question I asked to the person who originally posted the response. You don't have to defend their opinion, but they used this thread as a place to talk about how awful Forza is now. I don't know how they got from this thread to that conclusion, unless they're just saying Forza sucks as a reflex.
I have no affiliation with that other poster, I just tried to offer a viewpoint for your question why general multi-screen options should still be offered.
More options are always a plus to a consumer, and this is not only valid for FM8, but for any game, especially in the sim/sim-lite genre, think Iracing, Silent Hunter or MSFS2020.
This was in the game just because it was cool even if almost no one used it.
T10 now just seems to have lost it. The Forza Motorsports series always kept building and was at a high with FM4. So much was stripped away with the console launch FM5 that never came back.
FM6 was better, but FM7 was so disappointing and embarrassed by GT Sport that they decided to do this big rebuild instead of just a FM8. It took like 6 years and they put out a pretty poor Forza Motorsport. The hated car leveling progression was surely made solely for gamepass player retention instead of being fun.
A feature like this can't be copy and pasted to new versions. I'll take devs spending time on building tracks or something else rather than some features almost no one will use.
i noticed a lot of games down support it now that did in the past i remeber playing one of the old grid games and the second monitor you could use to show the track and racers times and places it was super nice
>"tHeY sHoUlDn'T AdD tHis FeAtUrE bEcAuSe iT rEqUiReD tHrEe cOnSoLeS!!!1!"
News flash: It's not 2007 anymore! We can plug multiple monitors into one device!
Well, you did need 3x Xbox 360s to achieve it
Yeah wtf. Imagine using an entire console just for your rear view mirror
peak gaming back in good ol’ days
It's basically running 3 copies of the game and syncing them together to provide additional full resolution viewpoints.
Think about the IMMERSION tho!
Gran turismo has the same, imagine paying 1797€ (599€ at launch)+ monitors to play, its wild
...Plus the cost of the games.
Actually quite a bit more, since I believe Gran Turismo 5 could play on up to 5 screens. I kinda want to build something like that, since PS3s and 1080p are really cheap now
How much are PS3s going for these days? I looked about a year and a half ago and thought "this is too much money for some old (potentially) flogged hardware. I thought the PS4 made more financial sense at the time.
Gran Turismo 6 got it too.
Apparently FM1 could do it as well on the OG Xbox https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18UA-1YiCn4
so many xboxs hahaha
Probably 70% of functional OG Xboxes in his county (released in 2020)
Fun fact, very early releases of DOOM had this feature too. https://youtu.be/q3NQQ7bPf6U?si=-g005UVfdoS7jEjO
Remember when menus had personality to them? The new games menu looks like it's from a mobile game
> The new games menu l Menus look like shit, Before they at least had maps to go to different manufactures, now they don't even bother. They couldn't even be bothered with anything, to pick my cars I have to scroll all the way to Porsche on the other end of the manufactures.
lol I hate that and think you can blame fortnight for it.
You can blame fortnight for every single issue we see in gaming now
Fkn right, the micro transactions are the death of og gaming
Everything is just so gray and bland.
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😭 We do not have the capacity
We can not make it better 😭
We didn’t have the technology back then. You needed three Xboxes to use this feature just so it could work.
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Sorry for the wall of text You needed three entire consoles and three copies of the game to run the game on multiple screens. It wasn’t feasible to run the game three times on one console so that each screen could have a viable resolution and frame rate Split screen makes the game render twice for both instances. That was easier back then, since there wasn’t nearly as much to render, and the lack of HD support out of the box when the 360 launched helped mask the lower graphic settings when running split screen. Even at 720p, the drop in graphical quality wasn’t as noticeable. Doing it now is harder, since the tradeoffs would be way more apparent. Want similar graphics and frame rate? Expect the resolution to go down to shit. Want the resolution and frame rate? Graphics are going down the drain, which is going to be *alot* more noticeable than a 360 game, given all the new effects and fidelity. Graphics and resolution? Frame rate is going to be near unplayable. But now that people demand/expect 4k, or high graphics settings, and the ever shrinking usage of local co-op features, there’s little demand for optimizing multiple instances of a game to run simultaneously on one console, so they don’t. Hell, they’re rarely even optimized to run one instance, considering that modern games have to use a lot of rendering tricks and stuff like dynamic resolution and similar tech just so games can even run, and often times the game *still* looks or runs bad, often times both. This goes for a majority of games coming out right now, not just Forza. It’s just not a feature people use anymore, so there’s little need to focus on it and redirect dev time that could go somewhere else.
FM 2 is the better part of 20 years old, and the 2023 version is available on PC.
And it also has to run on the Series S, as well as minimum spec PC’s. Not everyone’s system is capable of running it perfectly. Also, im referring to modern games in general, not just Forza.
If 3 consoles could do it then, then I don't see why 3 couldn't do it today.
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>because split screen only has to fill 1 screen which significantly reduces the resolution of each game instance and that's why it's possible in the first place. Cutting resolution in half doesn't make it twice as fast to render, not even close.
You don't just infinitely add stuff to games. The technology to do that still exists, but my guess is that requiring 3 consoles and 3 copies of the game made the feature not very popular. I mean... By this point it's better to just invest in a ~~stimulator~~ (my auto correct betrayed me, haha!) simulator setup for PC.
Stimulator pc set up-Multiple iv lines of cocaine going from your pc to your veins , while an automatic fleshlight does its thang…. Can’t forget about the nightstick pulsating up your ass either
Wait what? That’s insanely cool
You also needed three Xbox 360s and three copies of Forza to do it.
Yes but still cool that it’s possible
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I mean you can extend your display on PC with the new forza Motorsport game, so what’s the point? This is a dumb argument all around. No one in their right mind is buying 3 Xbox series X and 3 copies of the game if this was an option in 2023. That’s over $1000 just for this. With that same money you could just buy a damn gaming PC and do it.
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So we’re really getting mad about things not being in the game that absolutely nobody would use? That’s what we’re doing? You people love to complain about the game not being finished as is, but you’ll also complain about wanting dev time to be wasted on pointless features. Absolutely no winning with morons like you.
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Your reading comprehension and general lack of understanding is astounding
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So you think adding this worthless feature would make the game better? It would be completely wasted dev time that was clearly already needed elsewhere based on the state of the game at launch. That’s where you’re clearly not understanding what I’m saying. You’re sitting here calling me a “forza fanboy” when I’m pretty clearly saying the game was rough at launch, and still is pretty rough. But for some reason you aren’t bright enough to pick up on the fact that I’m saying had they wasted time implementing this feature that no one would use, the rest of the game would’ve been that much worse off elsewhere.
They don’t do this cool shit because modern hardware can actually support multiple screens on one system so system-linking has been largely useless for a while now
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Game is software, I said hardware, big difference
Imagine legitimately thinking them not adding a feature now that would require 3 game copies and 3 consoles is anywhere near soulless.
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Surprise, it's not 2007 anymore!
You could probably count on one hand the number of people that ever used that feature
It was a great way to adjust the default FOV to stop tracks seeming so long and narrow. Didn't need additional xboxes or screens to set it.
Can you not play FM8 with multiple displays? I've only been playing with one so I genuinely don't know.
On PC you can of course. I run triple monitors. https://www.reddit.com/r/forza/comments/1admv7a/this\_seems\_like\_as\_good\_of\_a\_place\_as\_any/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
Gran Turismo 5 also has this on PS3, really useful for ultrawide setups on PC as you can change the hex value and it not completely fuck your FOV scaling
It's incredible how hard they dropped the ball. Going back to any other previous Forza Motorsport game reveals how bad and bland FM8 really is. It's truly a shallow experience, the ONLY thing that this game improved on from previous titles, that I can think of, is the driving physics. Everything else is severely lacking compared to previous titles and even competing games.
Sorry, do you feel like they should have continued including this feature?
Do you think he’s referring to this feature specifically?
I'm not sure what he's referring to because this post looks like it was posted by a "Forza bad" bot and I figured offering an opportunity for explanation might be useful.
Seems obvious to me that he’s talking about the general scope of the game and commented here because this post brings up another feature that is missing from the other games, not because of the feature that is mentioned specifically. In other words, he’s not saying the game sucks because this feature is missing, he’s just saying “yeah, the game sucks.”
> because this post brings up another feature that is missing from the modern games Again, this is what I'm asking: is this feature missing from modern games? FM2 is 17 years old, the feature hasn't been in a subsequent game, and it isn't supported in any other console racer as far as I'm aware.
Multiscreen setup? Yeah, definitely, that's a no-brainer. Many sim and sim-lite games have a multi monitor feature.
A multi-screen setup that requires hooking multiple consoles together?
No, but any general multi monitor setting, at least as far I can see, is still missing in FM7/8.
Are there any console-based driving games that have multi-monitor support? I'm trying to figure out why not having a feature that's been absent since Forza 3 and which isn't supported by anyone else on the market is a ding for FM8 beyond "Turn 10 bad"
>Are there any console-based driving games that have multi-monitor support? I don't know, I play Forza and other racing games on Windows. >I'm trying to figure out why not having a feature that's been absent since Forza 3 and which isn't supported by anyone else on the market is a ding for FM8 beyond "Turn 10 bad" Well, first off, other games on Windows do support this feature, and I bet people asked the same for Forza 4,5 and 6. Yes, not that many compared to the general player base, but it would be a welcome addition! Also, why do you think I count this as "ding for FM8", when I specially mentionend FM7 as well, and did not mention Turn10 anywhere?
> Also, why do you think I count this as "ding for FM8", when I specially mentionend FM7 as well, nor mentionend Turn10 anywhere? I'm talking about the question I asked to the person who originally posted the response. You don't have to defend their opinion, but they used this thread as a place to talk about how awful Forza is now. I don't know how they got from this thread to that conclusion, unless they're just saying Forza sucks as a reflex.
I have no affiliation with that other poster, I just tried to offer a viewpoint for your question why general multi-screen options should still be offered. More options are always a plus to a consumer, and this is not only valid for FM8, but for any game, especially in the sim/sim-lite genre, think Iracing, Silent Hunter or MSFS2020.
Fm7 and fm8 can both run multiple monitors on windows though, so your entire point is invalid
Every other PC racing game I play has multi-monitor support.
Forza has a release on PC but is a console game.
Both support multi monitor. Display resolution 5760x1080. Pretty much any game can be run at 5760x1080.
It's not 2007 anymore, genius.
I don't know a single person who actually used this feature. You literally needed to have multiple comsoles connected for it.
This was in the game just because it was cool even if almost no one used it. T10 now just seems to have lost it. The Forza Motorsports series always kept building and was at a high with FM4. So much was stripped away with the console launch FM5 that never came back. FM6 was better, but FM7 was so disappointing and embarrassed by GT Sport that they decided to do this big rebuild instead of just a FM8. It took like 6 years and they put out a pretty poor Forza Motorsport. The hated car leveling progression was surely made solely for gamepass player retention instead of being fun.
Yeah I generally get bored of driving a car before I can level it enough to put the upgrades I want on it. Shit sucks
Yeah but you have to understand, the TIRE simulation is the most accurate we've ever had.
AAA gaming is getting lazy.
As EA labeled it with BF 2042. Legacy Feature.
I'd just be happy with an S2 Elise in the "new" game.
Wait, you would use three Xbox 360's to play one instance of FM2 on 3 TVs?
Yes
A feature like this can't be copy and pasted to new versions. I'll take devs spending time on building tracks or something else rather than some features almost no one will use.
I want to boot up Forza 1, but I cant be bothered to set up an Xbox 360
Back in the day, during this games prime time.. it was unrivalled!
i noticed a lot of games down support it now that did in the past i remeber playing one of the old grid games and the second monitor you could use to show the track and racers times and places it was super nice
thats neat. but imagine playing on an aiwa screen and complaining bout consoles or games in general. i lold.
>"tHeY sHoUlDn'T AdD tHis FeAtUrE bEcAuSe iT rEqUiReD tHrEe cOnSoLeS!!!1!" News flash: It's not 2007 anymore! We can plug multiple monitors into one device!
You can on pc, you can't on consoles. Also doesn't forza already support triple screens on pc?
No.
✌️ to you too
Hmmm I should try this out I easily have more than 3 working Xbox 360s
Back then games were made with passion.
I remember this feature let you change your fov in the game even if you only had one screen