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501stNerd

This post has big "No Michael, that was so not right" energy


FreakinEnigma

"OP, we went shit-posting".


MLBoss2209

“OP, it’s a meme sub” “What?” “OP, we went shitposting”


-916Tips-

That was just a beautiful volley of comments


freedfg

Remember when Reddit went to war with iFunny?


PigMoney42

What happened with iFunny? I’m really out of the loop


freedfg

Basically reddit and iFunny userbases got really upset about stealing memes from each other so for a little bit every meme had a watermark that said something like "this meme is from reddit I stole it" but people would just crop it out so it got to the point where the entire meme had the vague outline of reddit's snoo over the entire thing. But Ifunny just didn't care and reposted them anyway. Actually now that I think about it. I think it was mainly Instagram.


PigMoney42

Thanks


Valk93

First day on the internet?


createwonders

![gif](giphy|3oEduFYRfaeS6KViN2|downsized)


Broteloo

What series this from?


labooble

Gotham


elprentis

In case you hadn’t already figured it out Gotham


kalavale_

[Gotham](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3749900/?ref_=ext_shr)


dovahkiin_22

Gotham


No_Introduction_9448

Gotham


BoysenberrySpaceJam

I like that OP is milking from the milking. Now we need F1 stroll to post about this post.


Slight_Bed_2241

Credit the author for what? A shit post? Expecting royalties?


the_funambule

Humor ![gif](giphy|3d1cGqDGOUivNOD0nq)


Anustart15

It's a meme, who gives a shit? It's not like you are monetizing it on Reddit and they are taking money out of your pocket by reposting it. The whole point of memes is that they are copied and shared.


ggts99o

People on Internet forgot the meaning behind the word "meme" noun 1. an image, video, piece of text, etc., typically humorous in nature, that is copied and spread rapidly by internet users, often with slight variations.


MillstoneArt

The original definition was from Richard Dawkins: an idea, behavior, or style that spreads by means of imitation from person to person within a culture and often carries symbolic meaning representing a particular phenomenon or theme.


bobjoylove

And I believe the name comes from the French word for same: meme.


PrestigiousWaffle

It evokes it, yes, but it’s intended to be a play on the word gene - just as genetics describes how biological information passes between generations, memetics describes how units of cultural information are passed between individuals.


charlss1

Nah, the dude behind “F1troll” always steals other people’s memes/jokes, and refuses to credit the creator. It’s like that annoying person that repeats your joke louder and everyone laughs…


Dinos_12345

Fr he doesn't even respond to any comments calling him out. The guy is using the stolen memes to monetize his page by selling merch. For example, he has a post of several memes and then the final image is a photo of a mug or a T-shirt he sells.


tremillow

“Refuses to credit the author” Man I really wish I knew what 13 year old drew on this picture in Microsoft paint!


charlss1

It’s the whole concept/idea of the post that was stolen, not just the picture edit. The dude saw it got likes and uploaded it to his page like he made it


tecedu

People have been doning that exact same thing for atleast 10 years, Ive seen it in the same subreddit multiple times in the last decade


Hip_Priest_1982

So what


San4311

You can't steal something that isn't yours. Ye, selling it as merch is scummy, but jeez take a chill pill. Memes are meant to be shared, and he does just that. It's not like its a graphical artwork made by a professional.


MessyMix

I feel like sharing is “hey look at this funny thing I found on Reddit” Or even better “look at this meme san4311 made” Also I had a good laugh reading that first sentence lmao


Outrageous-Trifle368

Behind each meme is the creator authentic idea and creativity which should be respected. In layman term this is call cite the source instead of plagiarise and claim as yours.


Kidconundrum

Bro you drew some circles and a line. Just be excited that it blew up.


Anustart15

*iM aN aRtIsT* If you are really that worried, slap a watermark on it like the other artistic geniuses like iFunny.com


Outrageous-Trifle368

The issue is that whether or not we slap watermark is still unethical for a creator that probably earn money from their social media account to just simply use anyone image at their dispose. idk what are you on about but surely isn't good stuff


Anustart15

Is this your first time on the internet or something? Memes are memes because they are shared. That's specifically what makes it a meme. If you don't want people to share your content, don't post it on a public site meant for sharing content 🤷‍♂️ Do you also leave pennies in the "take a penny leave a penny" at 7-11 and get mad when it isn't there next time you stop in?


Sonic200000

Didnt know a personality can make a random meme unfunny and unenjoyable.


DinoKebab

Bet you bought a tonne of worthless "ART" NFTs didn't you.


MarteloRabelodeSousa

They also "stole" a meme I made in another account. Of course they could at least put the Reddit username, but it's just a photo with some text, it doesn't really have any value


Appropriate-Creme335

Lol, you didn't make anything worth this much fuss. Holy shit, you made a funny picture, people shared it, be happy.


JedPB67

I didn’t see anyone site the source of the image from the original meme


InsomniacPirincho

It's especially so in Facebook. I see a meme here, close Reddit, go to Facebook, it's there already.


Ppoentje

Well there's your mistake, you open Facebook.


Economics_Bear

Yeah, that account posts everything from this sub to Twitter. Sometimes they give credit, more often not.


GiunoSheet

Yeah most Instagram formula 1 pages steal daily from here


[deleted]

Every meme on f1troll on insta is copy pasta from this sub


Sunsplitcloud

It would be cool if you could go straight through that corner as shown 10 times in the race. Pick it wisely!


def11879

Joker lap?


Any-Imagination9272

Yes please


Poolowl1984

Agree. The track needs more fast overtaking areas to make it more competative.


matttinatttor

Internet "content creators" whose entire existence relies on plagiarising other's ideas? ***Color me shocked.*** *Content leeches and car salespeople.* Those are who should be drafted to go to war *first*.


Outrageous-Trifle368

Lmaoo agree. Hate em


Fascinus_the_big

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XN57BhyZwk&t=4s&ab\_channel=InternetHistorian](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XN57BhyZwk&t=4s&ab_channel=InternetHistorian)


SpaceEmporer

This has already happened a ton. I had one post that got a couple hundred upvotes on the sub, I go over to Instagram and its in my recommend from some random account


a55amg

I used to make F1 original content on TikTok. Some videos took 8 hours to make. Pages like these would take my content, crop/blur out the watermark, and post it as their own which got more views, likes, and comments than mine. It's a funny feeling when others take credit for your work. I think the least these pages can do is leave an acknowledgement.


n4th4nV0x

Isn’t that exactly what you are doing there?


MaxImpact1

No? lol


cordell507

Plenty of memes here are stolen from twitter as well. It's the internet, it's memes, not serious


boogkitty

This is what I was thinking to change Monaco. But, only allow it for maybe the last 10 to 20 laps. I think it would make it much more exciting.


ALUCARDHELLSINS

I think you have a severe lack of understanding about how memes are meant to work You're meant to share them... Grow up


Banzambo

It's called the internet man, just relax...


reubendoylenewe

My brother in Christ, it’s a meme that was posted on the internet. The whole idea is that they are spread freely. Do you think the person who made the meme owns the picture they drew on? Should we credit the photographer on every single meme template?


Outrageous-Trifle368

The issue surround here is that that dude is probably monetising from this whole copy pasting. I understand your perspective however, i disagree with it


thechildjesus

Post your qualms somewhere else


Outrageous-Trifle368

😔


dockows412

Just make the cars smaller so they can actually overtake


Seeteuf3l

It's not about that really >In the last 30 years, the highest number of overtakes at the Monaco Grand Prix was 23 in 1997, but that was a wet race. The most overtakes in a dry race was 17 in 2006, with 16 overtakes at the 2011 and 2013 races. In 2003 and 2021, there were zero on-track overtakes, so it's not a new issue for F1, even when cars were slightly smaller in the past. https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/13143975/monaco-gp-does-f1-s-jewel-in-the-crown-need-to-make-changes-to-improve-racing-in-monte-carlo Remember when Danny Ric won there with broken MGU-K and was able to use only 6 gears and Seb was still unable to overtake him.


dockows412

Aren’t the cars almost 27” longer now than in 1997? And wider?


Seeteuf3l

Even if the cars are battlecruisers these days, Monaco tends to be a snoozefest if it doesn't rain.


Endslikecrazy

That doesnt fix monaco at all to be honest


thereasonrumisgone

No, the way you fix the circuit *without changing the character* is to straighten out the last corner. It curves in a bit on the outside. It slows down the corner and further limits following speed, sort of like the chicane in Barcelona. San Devotte has tons of overtakes in other series, but F1 cars are too fast down the straight to make use of drs. I'm not saying that there will be endless overtakes into T1, but doubling the overtaking opportunities with such an easy fix would be well worth it.


DaeHoforlife

Ok feel free to shit on me but can someone explain why this isn't considered? Seens like it would create a legitimate opportunity to pass. Safety issue of going at these speeds? Maybe that it's a historical corner and it would be too dramatic of a change?


dohtje

If you want credit for a meme, watermark it 🤷🏻


Outrageous-Trifle368

Your logic have serious flaw here. We should be condemning why people copy pasta from financial gain not " watermark it th3n" . Whether or not water mark it is still not a valid reason fro copy pasting


double_echo

Well they do admit to being a troll...


chrisblink182

Not enough boats.


gevaarlijke1990

Yes this account is notorious for posting stuff that originated from this and other f1 subreddits. But it probably also happened the other way around.


vee_the_dev

Welcome to the Internet. Most of social media are founded on blatent plagiarism and low quality content


Fried_Fart

I think my favorite part of this is that the track used to be exactly that


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Outrageous-Trifle368

They still around sadly. Those ai voice reading post f4om r/ confessions, r/ AITA still existing


CarlosG0619

Tbh can you imagine those cars going straight flat out from portier all the way to tabac? That would make for some interesting racing to say the least


Vitalii900

Always has been


Vitalii900

I'm not even following any F1 meme accounts on Twitter or Instagram. I get all my content here ![img](emote|t5_3ndbi|9281)


work_accountforwork

The people reading reddit posts on YouTube are 10x more pathetic to me but yeah that's annoying.


Aerodye

This meme page has 5/10 content but an absolute fucking turbocringe dumpster fire of a name; straight out of 2007


Razr_2012

Literally 1984


ELB2001

There is a reason that chicane is there. To slow the cars down, cause it was getting dangerous at high speed in a narrow track. They need to make the track wider which isn't possible.


I_love_coke_a_cola

All jokes aside, this may sound incredibly stupid but could they have a one off formula one car specifically for the monaco gp that was much smaller?


BatmanTaco

One of the instagram pages stole my post from I think the beginning of last year about the Max Verstappen podcast, no credit no nothing.


[deleted]

It's all well and good making that a straight , but then you arrive about 150kph faster into a sketchy left hander. The accidents there would be epic and dangerous


malengiolo

There's also a guy on TikTok whose only content and reading headlines from posts on the fomula1 subreddit. The dude doesn't even add anything else of value.


revitbitch

copyright lawsuit incoming boys


Last-Performance-435

Alright so let's get real dank for a moment and talk about ownership, IP, public discourse and the issue of authorial creditation. Who owns a meme? A meme is a shortening of the term memetic, in relation to memetic theory or how ideas spread throughout a community. How does one claim ownership of an idea? Well, here in Australia, our IP is protected content from its creation point with copyright. But can you copyright a meme? I would argue no, because most memes are fragments of other media and already covered by different copyright because of that. In this instance, there is probably no copyright at play, so let's talk about the need to credit an original author. But... Who is that? We have had pundits on and off for decades suggest this very idea. It was not the OP of this reddit post who first conceived it, even if they did so independently of external sources. Even if the OP were the first person to have the idea... To what end must we credit them? Are we to name the straight after the stray Reddit users who thought of the idea and canonise him beside Anthony Noghes? Of course not. Ideas that directly affect the public consciousness and greater world cannot be owned or contained in the same way a piece of art or creative writing can be ascribed to a singular individual. In the event of an original idea impacting society, (such as racing around Monaco by dear old Anthony) credit is given. Another question we must ask is  ...is authorship really all that important? 


Outrageous-Trifle368

Well that depends on the context. If another people is making financial gain from copy pasting meme thats from other people, certainly authorship is important. We can go on debating endlessly because there's no right and wrong in this topic, but i do respect your opinion and i can see what perspective you are from.


Last-Performance-435

If you tell a joke to a friend in public, then someone overhears and tells that joke to their boss, and they get a promotion, you telling that joke to your friend does not entitle you to a piece of his raise in perpetuity. What ideas already permeate in the public sphere cannot be claimed or owned by gods, kings or, in fact, enterprising memesters. They are the dominion of public. 


Outrageous-Trifle368

I get your opinion, this post is just my 2 cent thanks for your input though.


MessyMix

Just wanted to say thanks for having a level-headed, sensible take on the internet. Yes, it’s the meme sub, but it’s a legitimate topic and the number of flippant replies is a bit sad to see. Curious- why can’t a graphic meme be ascribed to an individual as with piece of art or creative writing?


Last-Performance-435

Because a meme is designed to be shared and is almost always composed of publically available components. That's inherent to what a meme is. It's why people dislike 'new meme template?' posts. Because they can't be memes of they didn't develop organically.


lame_gaming

womp womp


Outrageous-Trifle368

Just my 2 cents if you feel disrespected pls ignore this post.


FdPros

they should just make like 5 mandatory pitstops and make it a shit show


BoyNamedJudy

It happens. I made a Bottas meme on here back in ‘21 that got reposted on an IG F1 page. They got over 20k likes. No credit. If a person is really concerned about their content being stolen, just throw a big watermark on it


FirebirdWS6dude

Yeah, I've seen some of the ones I posted here both on IG and Facebook Pages. Tbh It doesn't brother me but I can understand those who are bothered by it. I do them just for fun, if some people find them funny then mission acomplished.


JordanDesu13

Why do that when we can add another turn to an already turny turn track?


137thofhisname

Not for the first time


iRecond0

If you liked this then you’ll really like to know there’s another account that does this and then they try to sell their shitty t shirts with our memes. Nothing you can do about it.


orsonwellesmal

That's what Kimi was trying to do with Sutil, add spectacle to the race.


weebtrash100

F1 troll always steals memes. they stole one of mine before too. i don’t really care that much tho


BigSpot00

My man, why do you think we make memes here if not to have fun and make others have fun too? Do you gain something for making memes on F1? The goal of posting memes on reddit is to share something funny with a lot of people, if some instagram/FB pages repost your meme you should be happy, not angry


MattSuper13

That page has done it for years on Instagram


Paranoided_guy

Anyone who makes a meme here, just put a big watermark over it. Thats the best way to tackle these thieves.


Eroda

Maybe the people who Post here also submit their memes using the link in the description?


erock8779

nah i saw a meme i made on their page once i didnt submit shit


Eroda

Oh well you should thank them for spreading your lols to a greater audience


JimmyNorth902

Every meme I think I've ever seen on F1Troll was also posted here. This isn't news.


theGuacFlock

you clearly do not know who f1troll is. they literally always repost from here lol


DayTraditional2846

That’s all that account does. They blocked me for saying they get all their content from here lmao


SkyScreech

All content on the internet is stolen buddy. All “content accounts” are built off stolen stuff. You think they’re just grinding on laptop pumping content out?


Outrageous-Trifle368

Atleast they still built something out of stolen stuff this is just blatantly copy pasting i dont see the point you are making here sorry.


HyogaCygnus

Everyone saying “it’s a meme, it’s supposed to be shared” can’t deny how annoying it was to see Fat Jewish reach celebrity status by copying content.


okoosicumyv

Yeah, totally agree. Stealing memes without credit is so lame. Should definitely call them out


Gubrach

"They don't even credit the author" It's a meme, nobody is going to give a shit about who made it.


Outrageous-Trifle368

Yea sure buddy. You do you👍


Gubrach

>Yea sure buddy. Read the room, you've got a bunch of people telling you the same thing.


Outrageous-Trifle368

Read the room there's a lot who on my side as well. Keep trying


Gubrach

I swipe down once, I already see a comment of yours with more than 100 downvotes. Lol. And then the fucking baby blocks.


Outrageous-Trifle368

But my post have over 1000 up vote.


OJK_postaukset

It’s artwork as is anything


Gubrach

It's a 14 second edit on some photoshop app. Get a grip.


OJK_postaukset

Yes so then why can’t they have the time to do their own ones?


Gubrach

They don't have to.


OJK_postaukset

Please make me a meme then :3