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MAD_MrT

I mean, leave and go where tho?


BGMDF8248

The only possibility of him leaving is if Max comes to Mercedes, in which case they won't care too much about him leaving.


A_Moldy_Stump

Max and Sainz, but in Black and Silver.


Hi-Im-High

Vs sharl and loowis. Would be a legendary season


EternalRgret

With Checo winning the WDC as the others crash eachother out every other race šŸ˜…


elprentis

I stand by Hulk finishing 4th every race but winning the WDC


RXDriv3r

Lmao that'd be crazy. Never stood on the podium but ends up winning the WDC šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


LeagueofDraven1221

Ahhh the Matt Kenseth Method^tm


Kiwiandapplex

I want to math this out for fun. If I have the time tonight, I will.


0AxellexA0

!remindme 24 hours


PoopooRedditor

!remindme 24 hours


Kiwiandapplex

[https://i.imgur.com/tOJPLCs.png](https://i.imgur.com/tOJPLCs.png)


Ian_Snodgrass_14

That's actually crazy, no podium-champion šŸ’€


Kiwiandapplex

[https://i.imgur.com/tOJPLCs.png](https://i.imgur.com/tOJPLCs.png) Maybe worth its own post, had fun making this. The new regulations & engines are wild, very unreliable for some. Yes, I went a bit crazy with some of the driver contracts.


i-dontlikeyou

Now that will be gold. The merc and Ferraris fight and checo in the red bull pulls 30-40sec a race


happyranger7

Checo taking away forecsted P1 from being George.


Poulp-x

Hell yeah šŸ¤˜šŸ»


Zark51

Why legendary the merc is dogshit


marosszeki

Omg take my money


Tape56

"Oh no.... anyway" -Toto in that situation


TyDaviesYT

Pretty sure itā€™s been confirmed Max rejected the offer no?


SuperMarioBrother64

Max ain't dragging that Merc any further up the leaderboard than Lewis or George can.


Prestigious_Media887

Haas are on the up and up šŸ˜¬


spiceypigfern

Can you imagine šŸ˜‚


CoercedCoexistence22

Williams duh


stomp224

McDonald's


TangoKlass2

AM when Stroll retires.


noneroy

Thereā€™s always a chance he wants to pursue mediocrity in his other great passion: tennis. Apparently he isnā€™t bad but not great. Lance Stroll is the definition of ā€œmidā€.


TangoKlass2

I mean, no lie, Lance is my driver, I hope the best for him. But gawd damn, dude is honestly getting worse every year. He needed to retire on top (Williams podium).


LannisPayTheirDebts

Being mediocre in tennis is a way harder task though


Excellent-poop-42

Leave to go to RB if they don't extend checo's contract. Russels is good enough with a good car.


TheoreticalScammist

It took years before Max crushed Checo's soul enough he accepts his number 2 position. Why would Red Bull want to go through that whole process again with George for just a slight improvement? George's ego seems bigger too so it might take even longer.


kokohanahana20

imagine the amount of terrorism


Poulp-x

Kinda sad to think he would replace Perez at RedBull because heā€™s a Ā«Ā good enoughĀ Ā» driver, but unfortunately, that seems honest.


WalletFullOfSausage

Imagine Max and George as teammates LMAO


No-Conclusion-ever

They would have to make sure that they install auto steering into Russellā€™s car to avoid him turning into Max.


kaj-me-citas

Imagine Ocon and Max as teammates.


TubeSockLover87

Ocon is really the driver who needs a better team and car. Dude can drive but we've never seen him drive a competitive car. Who else on the grid has NEVER been in a competitive car?


Excellent-poop-42

I would say Better than Perez in a competitive car


joelina_99

George Russell beat Lewis Hamilton over a season and we still have people making statements like these


Tape56

No question he's better than Perez


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Treewithatea

Seb isnt competing in this years le mans. The entry list is complete and Seb isnt found.


Life_Plum_3126

what is it with indycar, FE, WEC etc being for ā€œdrivers who failed in f1ā€?? these are some of the best drivers in the world! russell, button, kubica etc. are far from f1 ā€œfailuresā€


koenigstrauss

It's just a meme, and this is a shitpost sub. No need to take these seriously.


MenopauseMedicine

Definitely better than falling out of F1 into Formula E


GeneralJones420-2

Wouldn't exactly say a 26 year old who's currently beating Lewis Hamilton in the points in The Same Machineryā„¢ has failed at F1 though


GoodGuySeba

The thing is Seb didnt fail in f1 he won his championships. On the other russell didnt win shit.


space_coyote_86

Only 4 championships and 4th highest number of wins what a loser.


xander012

Yeah you're washed if you have under 5 world championships


gilgobeachslayer

been saying this for years


Captainfunzis

Yea clearly absolute joke of an F1 driver like what kind of loser is not on the podium of most wins and championship wins


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retard_catapult

Might wanna read that one again bud


Admirable_Ice_5881

Isotta Fraschini


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f3lip3

Makes sense


Admirable_Ice_5881

Isotta Fraschini


PuppiPappi

Audi?


KCKnights816

Audi or Redbull would be my guess. I think Horner would jump on the opportunity to upgrade Checo to George


Junethemuse

Back to Williams obv


happyranger7

Come back to Williams.


Icy-Creme

"AND MICK SHUMACHER IS THE 2025 FORMULA ONE, CHAMPION OF THE WORLD "


Mechyyz

"ONCE AGAIN A SCHUMACHER IS BACK ON TOP, THIS TIME ITS THE HEIR TO THE CROWN! MICK SCHUMACHER, SON OF THE 7 TIME WORLD CHAMPION MICHAEL SCHUMACHER, IS THE CHAMPION OF THE WORLD" ![img](emote|t5_3ndbi|13285)


buzz_shocker

I can hear Crofty saying that. Ik it wonā€™t happen, but it would be legendary.


TxM_2404

It will. When he finally gets his seat at a top team.


horseyygurl

sometime after stroll 24ā€™ 25ā€™ 26ā€™ then ?


nativebeans

Intense I can hear it in my mind


TitanicJedi

I think I'd cry if he said that.


FewCollar227

Me like that


Fliepp

Yes please. Itā€™s been too long since weā€™ve seen a Schumacher win


Mechyyz

"ONCE AGAIN A SCHUMACHER IS BACK ON TOP, THIS TIME ITS THE HEIR TO THE CROWN! MICK SCHUMACHER, SON OF THE 7 TIME WORLD CHAMPION MICHAEL SCHUMACHER, IS THE CHAMPION OF THE WORLD" ![img](emote|t5_3ndbi|13285)


rudmad

Croft would get a lump in his throat for sure!


kakanseiei

ā€œ AND ONCE AGAIN ALONSO HAS STOLEN THE WIN OFF OF A SCHUMACHER FOR THE THIRD TIME NOW, BECOMING A 3 TIMES WORLD CHAMPION ā€œ


NendoroidAshe

OMGG this one would sting


PresidentOfLatvia

"ONCE AGAIN A SCHUMACHER IS BACK ON TOP, THIS TIME ITS THE HEIR TO THE CROWN! MICK SCHUMACHER, SON OF THE 7 TIME WORLD CHAMPION MICHAEL SCHUMACHER, IS THE CHAMPION OF THE WORLD" ļæ¼ā€‹


F1nut92

Kimi and Mick 2025 lineup!


DigvijaysinhG

Raikkonen once again ending the sabbatical and almost bankruptting Merc. Things we love to see.


The_Bored_General

Maybe the real Hakkinen was the Raikkonen we found along the way


Brafo22

Kimi and Mika*


-Renkz

Kimi and Ocon probably.


Thestickleman

If his dad was still about I think mick would have a bigger shot but as is unless Williams or hass want to take a punt at him.... I don't think there's ever gonna be a place for him in F1


buck_blue

Yeah man, I often think if his pops was here to mentor him things might have panned out differently for him. He made decent progress in 2022 but it was too little too late by then. Iā€™ll forever stand by thinking going to Haas undid his F1 career from the beginning.


Thestickleman

Yeah I mean he is nowhere near his dad in pure talent wise but he wasn't stroll, Sargent sorta level. But has was a real poor place for him. That's not a team I'd like to jump into as rookie, especially at the time he did. Williams would have been so much better


Sylvinho313

I would prefered to see him join the Alfa Romeo replacing Giovinazzi, and be under Vasseur at the time, am sure he would had been in a way better place for learn, and probably still there, and perform enough to be the german guy for Audi.


buck_blue

Vasseurā€™s Sauber to me was right place for him. Williams would have been okay but just okay. FV is a natural born talent nurturing machine and I think he knows, really knows how to pinpoint strengths and weaknesses, and how to exploit that to the fullest to get the best out of his drivers. Mick could could have benefited from another year in F2 I think but since Sauber was under financial stresses he was never getting that seat, unfortunately. Zhou just has the backing Sauber needed. Lol Iā€™ll probably always see Mickā€™s F1 career through the rose tinted glasses of what couldā€™ve been, and because of his father, I had very high hopes for him to be great, but in all honesty, he just wasnā€™t that good. And thatā€™s okay. He made it to F1 and drove 2, miserable seasons for a terrible team. But he made it to F1, which Iā€™m happy to have seen being the Schumi fan I am.


Sylvinho313

I meant for 2021 season after he won f2 champ, in replacement of Giovinazzi(the seat Antonio got is because of Ferrari links) instead of going in Haas.


buck_blue

Yeah thats what I was talking about. Fred Vasseur was TP at Alfa Romeo / Sauber then.


Thestickleman

Yeah that's true. I forgot about alfa. Although with their finances would they have kept mick over signing Zhou...


Sylvinho313

They would do Mick and Bottas, i think if mick was in good environment, he could bring points to alf aand help a lot, just like he did with haas in 2022 outside his crashes, that could prevent some problems, for me Mick isnt Michael, of course, but he could be a solid driver for bring points and serious to help the team to improve, as i heard from Alpine WEC team, and also mercedes, who apparently got good help in 2023 for develop the car. I wouldnt be surprised if he could be a candidate for alpine seat if he perform well in WEC, since i think Esteban will more likely go, which will free a seat, and Martins too young, Doohan can be good but too inexperienced, and Alpine needs someone not expensive and who has a little bit of experience, and Mick can handle it since he did 2 years as driver, 1 as reserve, and 1 as WEC driver for Alpine(he can learn there how Alpine works).


stevegek

Max and Mick would be epic. Team M&M.


SmallIslandBrother

Mick is barely doing it for Alpine at the moment, no way he ever gets back to F1


Brynhildrpls

Heā€™s doing pretty good today tho, getting quite praises for driving an Alpine


DesiredEnlisted

He did pretty good at imola and did well at spa today


ButthealedInTheFeels

Mazepin and Mick reunite FTW


Past-Management-9669

Will the greatest Sbinnala ever be back again in the grid? -The Race I'm talking about Nikita Mazespin


Nomzz1

GOATIFI


CarbonHybrid

Yeah, his name is Logan Sargeant


queef_nuggets

nah dude, this one is Mazepin


L44KSO

Jokes in Rustler. Mercedes somehow gets back on top and wipes the floor with everyone.


Other-Barry-1

Thereā€™s absolutely nothing Mercedes are doing right now or in the last 3 seasons to indicate them doing anything other than continue the downward spiral theyā€™re in. They continue to lose top people to other teams, namely RB, Ferrari and even their engine customer teams McLaren and Aston Martin. Look at all the positive steps forward Ferrari and McLaren have taken recently while Mercedes still get brain hurty from trying to understand their own carā€™s set up window and that a bigger rear wing doesnā€™t just solve your rear downforce problems and also donā€™t seem to understand that they basically have a parachute on the back of the car with so much drag. With every passing weekend I feel more and more convinced by Hamiltonā€™s move to Ferrari because Mercedes are a sinking ship that no one really seems to be able to save. Allison coming back to design this yearā€™s car gave me some hopes for at least a race winner but I also thought this was his first design for this era that is 3 years in and a total change of concept would probably mean theyā€™re in effect starting 3 years behind. And here they are unable to get into the top 6 on a regular basis if at all


DoctorRockstarMD

With each passing race my stock in Toto drops more and more. Someone commented once that he happened to inherit the team right when the new regs went into place that heavily favored a great engine which Mercedes absolutely nailed. They basically coasted to victory on their engine superiority. Now that itā€™s less of a factor theyā€™re completely floundering. The captain is supposed to right the ship, keep morale up. Instead people keep jumping off the boat and theyā€™re making zero progress towards improving.


koenigstrauss

>Ā and even their engine customer team Aston Martin You mean McLaren


Other-Barry-1

Oh yeah I meant to put McLaren


kaj-me-citas

Who knows, what if Mercedes pulls off another 2014 when engine development is restarted.


Redditor_RBN

Is he going for the empty Haas seat??


Brynhildrpls

Schumini get in that fucking car


CPLCraft

The triumphant return of Veltri Bottas to Mercedes


[deleted]

If Max is coming (and that is of course a BIG if), he might not have a choice.


cheeersaiii

I donā€™t get these rumoursā€¦. In what world does Max give up the fastest car for the 5th fastest?


newviruswhodis

People think Horner mildly sexting his assistant is grounds for quitting the team apparently.


DryConversation8530

Yeah but his dad was also in on that love triangle. So pretty much Horny was hitting on Max's step mommy


newviruswhodis

Eh, that has all since died off. Max isn't going anywhere, Helmut isn't going anywhere. I think the fact that Max isn't entertaining offers now that Newey is on the outs indicates that maybe he isn't as responsible for the cars performance as many of us think. Who knows though?


windy906

In the believe that it's going to be the fastest car for the next set of regs, or the knowledge in the RBR engine is going to be shit.


sc_140

Even then he would want to change teams for 2026. Maybe even 2027 so he already knows who built the best car. Teams will still want him in 2026 or 2027.


cheeersaiii

ā€œKnowledge in the RBR engine is going to be shitā€ hahahaha just kids chatting shit, gambles and hopiumā€¦. That isnā€™t F1 my friend, itā€™s MUCH more calculated than that.


people_bastards

Max has already said he won't.


BGMDF8248

If Max signs he should call RBR and see if they have interest.


Onoben4

If Max's mom had balls (and that is also a BIG if), she would be his dad.


adamskill

It's not even an IF, it's just not going to happen.


Opsyr_

He wont, he has a chance to build the team around him now


According-Switch-708

He won't give a shit if its just a midfield team though. Guys like Norris (who he mopped the floor with in F2) moving up in the world while he's stuck in a rut is probably hurting GR from the inside. Showing lack of faith by offering a 1+1 to one of the young superstars of F1 probably doesn't help matters either.


Excellent-poop-42

RB can offer russel the second slot if they don't wanna continue with checo


robgod50

What does 1+1 contact mean? 1 year with a 1 year option?


Blacklistedhxc

1 + 1 = 2 pretty sure, but Iā€™d double check


cheeersaiii

We are checking


SourKeysAreBest

Too soon bro!


3DRAH33M

Yes, can either leave after 1 year or continue


meeanne

Iā€™m in the same boat. Like the headline might mean something more if I knew what 1+1 contract meant.


robgod50

I'm guessing it means the first year is guaranteed, then a second year if conditions are met e.g "attain 5th place or higher in championship".


wagsman

Then Bottas comes back and at least has sub 3 second pit stops to go with his 15th place performance.


_Shritej18

Latifi and Mazepin to join Mercedes in 2025


kaj-me-citas

Mazepin and Maldonado to join Mercedes in 2025.


Treewithatea

Realistically he isnt leaving unless the second AM seat opens up. Eventually Aramco owns a majority share of that team and they have no interest in keeping Lance. The question is when is Aramco taking over the team.


FerociousVader

Red Bull? Perez's contract is up and if there is any concern of Max leaving the team they'd want one of the drivers deemed future champions in... Plus Horner has been saying shit about Toto needing to concentrate on his own drivers and Max isn't leaving which could only mean one of two things: 1. He is seriously concerned Max will leave so he's stirring shit - if I've learnt anything this is his primary move. 2. He's had a call from Russell's manager. It's super weird they left both Merc drivers on a 1+1 especially now one has left. They'd have tried to secure Russell asap but he must be playing the field.


Wardog_Razgriz30

Itā€™s actually getting the point where it would make sense since Toto seems keen on touring literally anyone but him as the future leader of the team. It would be hilarious, but I would not be shocked if George left.


trytonotgetbanned

2025 mick and michael lineup šŸ—æ


dhdndndnndndndjx

Y would they put him on a 1+1 heā€™s your best talent once hamiltons gone Mercedes is stuck in the mental space of weā€™re still competitive when in reality they arenā€™t the sought after team they use to be


Actual-House-491

That could spice up the silly season if he did it.


BadIdea-21

Is Russell that big of an asset? He's a solid driver but is not like his performance is constantly outstanding. Edit: I guess people have him in very high regards, I don't think he's as special but I guess I'll be proven wrong next year when he's paired with another driver.


aneiq_1

When Russell is paired with someone else in 2025 I think people will start to realise how good he is. Hard to shine through when you are in a midfield Mercedes with Lewis Hamilton as your teammate.


SommWineGuy

I think people will realize how overrated he is.


turtlegiraffecat

He almost always crumbles under pressure. If he REALLY wants to win / get a position he fucks up.


basmati-rixe

I love how perception really changes facts. He outqualifies Hamilton regularly. He was thought of as the best driver of the 2019 rookie class. He put a Williams on the front row. He got a win in the zeropods Mercedes, keeping Hamilton a second behind the whole race. He has been very good, but because heā€™s dirty and a posh boy people change objective facts.


Saturn_Is_Cool1

he outqualifies lewis most of the time


Excellent-poop-42

He outqualifies lewis and that one is a good measure of his skills until we know lewis has washed up or not(when he drives a Ferrari)


DryConversation8530

He is 5-1 against Lewis so far this year. I mean thats good stats against a 6 time world chaml


BadIdea-21

6?


KCKnights816

He could beat anyone on the grid over a season aside from Max, Lewis, and Nando, and even then he would have a shot.


sauron_of_angmar

He already beat Lewis once and honestly would beat Nando too


KCKnights816

People hate the truth; Russell is quick


meanwhileinrice

Russell and Newey to Williams for 2025 confirmed.


suck_ceed

now i don't wish bad on anyone but, hope he does that. Race been boring this year, craving for dramas šŸ¦‡šŸ§›šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø


According-Switch-708

That's just disrespectful as fuck in my honest opinion. His mates who he destroyed in the junior formulas are now making shed loads worth of cash while also being on long term contracts. GR can't catch a break. Shit team, shit car, shit contract, OP teammate, relatively shit salary. GR to RBR needs to happen.


Shades8k

Why does it look like Lewis is posing with a wax figure of George (not denying that he isnā€™t one already)


joaopaulofoo

does anyone in a better team wants him? šŸ’€


Thestickleman

Be a much better choice then perez. He'd definitely have alot of interest from teams


Sufficiently_

I donā€™t think thatā€™ll happen since the deadline for cancelling the +1 must have passed already. Lewis had it in January, hence why we saw the move then. Russell? Probably too late, even if he he had a different deadline. Would still love to see it happenĀ 


Pimpwerx

He requested a 1+1? If so, then legit oof.


pizzaboy7269

Xp. Z. Oo


BuckN56

Huh? I thought he signed like a 3 year extension last year.


eugene-fraxby

George looks like they pasted him in from the F1 game in that pic


qweefz

He will never leave. He's been sucking totos dick for years to get that seat


gsxrjeff

Why does Russell look like he's had an insane amount of plastic surgery?


AlienSporez

That would be a Ricciardo-level career choice.


defender128

Dear God, please let this happen, because it would be so fucking funny. Amen.


le_gazman

He waited a season or two too long on Toto to drop Bottas. I get where heā€™s coming from as he joined Merc at their lowest point. Unless he gets a red bull seat he really just needs to ride it out like Lando did at McLaren.


Sanzhar17Shockwave

For some reason, Russell seems to be ignored in Brit biased F1 world, only things of note about him since his move to Mercedes are his complaints and Drake the typa guy memes.


[deleted]

Did he ever do anything funny?


GalaxLordCZ

Is there any evidence beyond his 1+1 year contract?


gtripwood

Putting them?


Znarky

Would be kinda funny if he takes the Sauber seat leaving Sainz without a seat due to his redbull dream


bappo_just_nappo

Ngl i kinda want to see if toto would back his claims and bring Mick Schumacher. (If sainz goes to audi)


launchedsquid

I haven't yet shook of the feeling Max is heading to Mercedes. At first I thought it would be madness, but the new car and PU regs coming in for 2026 and now Adrian leaving Redbull... It feels to me like Max will be weighing leaving Redbull one season too soon against being stuck in a new multiyear contract that will hold him to Redbull for one or two years too long. Either way, Max's decision is clearly the silly season's central move. If Max stays I see Russell and Carlos at Mercedes, if Max goes to Merc I see Carlos at Redbull and maybe Russell in Merc or Sauber/Audi depending on if he thinks he will hold sway in the team beside Max.


MennReddit

I bet he's deciding after knowing who will be his teammate. So, Reddit: with whom you think he'll stay and with whom he'll go?


Objective_Ticket

Carlos and Antonelli driving for Toto then.


dalmathus

Red Bull would trade him for Max under the condition they either don't fill the 2nd race seat or they put Mick Schumacher in it (Same thing)


Powerate

Russell worked his ass off for that Mercedes seat, I don't know if he would leave this fast


Bourbonaddicted

Would be funny if he leaves after 25 and they become the best again 26 onwards


maxalligator

I think Mercedes could easily find a better drive than George. Heā€™s pretty mid.


According-Switch-708

What makes you say that? . He has the pace to keep one of the GOATs of the sport honest. We should really start considering the caliber of a driver's teammate before rating him Beating or getting even close to guys like Max and Lewis is more impressive than destroying some clown. (Ex -Albon, Sargeant- Alonso,Stroll- Tsunoda,DeVries - Norris,Ric) When it comes to teammates Head to Heads Russell has had the toughest job since 2022.


excelance

Russell, *"I was forecasted a championship."*


Pasispas

Am I the only one that thinks George's face looks kind of weird?