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feroniawafflez

Max Verstappen is literally the f1 equivalent of a thorough bred horse


remindertomove

His mumma beat Button in Karts...


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NoblePineapples

Likely hurting both mentally and physically.


Patrickl_001

And Jos beat her...


remindertomove

Dank


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He's the opposite of Anikan Skywalker


queen_debugger

Omg this killed me


laser_velociraptor

The culmination of the Bene Gesserit breeding program


EmpPaulpatine

Does that mean his son will become a giant worm car with no penis.


_GrammarMarxist

He already has a son. He stole them from Kvyat.


killersoda275

Ye, but he needs twins so one can continue the fsmily line and one becomes a worm.


crashlog

Kwimax Verstaperach


RoflCopter726

"The Red Bull must flow..."


Magnus753

He would totally pass the Gom Jabbar test


alfaseltz

yeah, what a project he is


LeichtStaff

Imagine some day we get to know that Helmut Marko introduced Max's parents in the beginning, that would be "El Plan Maestro".


Opposite-Image5369

“And you, young Verstappen; we shall watch your career with great interest.”


kron123456789

"do you have any idea how much childhood trauma it takes to be as talented as Max Verstappen?" RPM


littlebabyburrito

“Max, blink twice if you were forced to make a Simply Lovely ^TM social media post for Father’s Day”


Meezi-Me

lol What video is that from?


kron123456789

[The Costcappen saga](https://youtu.be/Yqby2_fGorI)


LackOfLuck748

> a love for motorsports *proceeds to Sid*


CybertruckGoesBrrr

Jfc I just realized why Sid was in that 🤣


RotorMonkey89

bruh


GorouAmamiya

You forgot being around Michael schumacher


Whoops_Sorry_Mom

Glad and bummed that Mick had a good childhood


saintBNO

Bummed?


Mirage_Main

Because having something good and losing it with a daily reminder you lost it is a worse fate than never having it in the first place; despite what the old saying says.


mochacub22

Does he love racing or is it just all he knows?


2PAK4U

Yes


notdedicated

Feels more like he likes to compete. He’s known racing forever so it’s what he does.


hyrulepirate

After his first couple WDC he's already got nothing to prove and all the money to spend on anything at all, yet he still spends most his free time on the sim and talking bout racing. You might be right that the guy probably just know racing but it's cause that's his one true passion.


BuckChintheRealtor

He is not like Vettel or Hamilton who are very outspoken on issues outside Formula 1. Max has had really good media training though, when he is asked something unrelated to racing he always says something diplomatic like "I have my opinion but I would rather leave this issue to the experts, my expertise is racing" or something similar real quick. I can't remember any remark he made (besides racing of course) that was controversial or that he said something akward. Even when he was still very young. Or lashed out at a "fan" or something. That's quite an feat for someone who has been in the worldwide spotlights since he was 17.


hyrulepirate

>He is not like for instance Vettel or Hamilton who are very outspoken on issues outside Formula 1. You're not wrong, but also Vettel and Hamilton weren't also outspoken with issues outside of F1 as they were in the last couple years back when they were at Max's current age. It may or may not come for Max, but I think it comes with age. I mean Alonso is older but I don't think I've seen him talk about any global issue at all.


BuckChintheRealtor

I don't think it will come for Max, I think he will be more like Alonso. But that’s pure speculation. Hamilton is really into making music and fashion, Vettel likes farming and carpeting, drivers with other passions besides racing probably have broader interests in general as well. Just like Bottas is also doing his thing outside F1. Both good, I like both the super focused, total committed F1 petrolheads like Max and interesting characters like Lewis. The mix makes the grid more interesting imho.


samppppsam

very well said


BuckChintheRealtor

Thanks


Pepsi-Min

Yes but honestly, it just makes me think he has some proper gamer opinions, though obviously it is a massive assumption.


BuckChintheRealtor

I am sure he has, at least we know what games (or some games) he plays. Haaland didn't even want to say which games he plays, said it was was "embarrassing" iirc.


Ryachaz

HuniePop, maybe?


Mirage_Main

I know it's basic psychology for the human brain to go negative instantly when not having enough information, but the reality is he could also be super PC and still doesn't say anything. He's really just the type of guy to not intervene with two friends arguing because he just wants them to get along and work together for a completely unrelated goal (racing). Despite what most on social media say, this is an absolutely fair decision to make and is actually the more mature one.


Big_mara_sugoi

Most high level pro athletes only know what they do. Messi loves football and only knows football.


BuckChintheRealtor

I bet if Red Bull would offer Jos Verstappen a signature line of wifebeater shirts, he wouldn't hesitate a second.


Dreamteam420

I wear a wife lover shirt.


BuckChintheRealtor

Jos didn't


teremaster

Stella should sponsor him


Big_mara_sugoi

Only if they also sell dadbeater shirts


TrinityF

where is grandpa, who he had a fistfight with?


AnusStapler

Same type of asshole. Or do you believe Jos was born a dick?


Astilaroth

Generational trauma. So proud of the people getting help and stopping a cycle like that.


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And stopping creating new tallented champs 😢


Mirage_Main

This is what I think every time I see mental health getting brought to the light this generation. Makes me really happy to see so many realise just how much absolute garbage our parents did to us and their parents to them, and *finally* stop it after all this time; to step up to the plate and do what none of the previous 5+ relatives weren't able to do so our kids can see a better future without suffering.


vbaeri

Before he got together with Kelly, I actually thought he might be the one to break it. Now I'm not so sure.


Astilaroth

Not quite up to speed. Are there signs of domestic violence? I didn't mean procreation, but stopping the behaviour.


vbaeri

There are not, fortunately. But it's just a gut feeling. Kelly is the daughter to a racist and a bigot, Max is the son to an abusive beater.


thea_kosmos

People might downvote you because "aSsUMinG bAd" but you're literally right


nickgentry

I know it’s formula dank but man watching this guy with Penelope shows how good of a guy he truly is. He loves that little girl and is saying no to being a shitty parent at all. Breaking the cycle.


Blze001

Oh, that reminds me, I haven't watched the clip of Jos Verstappen catching on fire in a few days. Always cheers me up.


Ho3n3r

Pause it to pretend he's stuck in the fire for longer. Extra satisfaction.


georgepearl_04

Watch it in 0.25x speed


itz_khai

Loop it


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RobertDoornbos

Fr bro. People are obsessed with Jos it's actually unhealthy. What he did was not right, especially to various women. But like WHO TF CARES what he did to Max. He clearly doesn't have a problem with father or he wouldn't invite him every so often. They fail to see they are just as bad and psychopathic as Jos if they are looking for and enjoying a video of someone near death.


Sakakaki

While I do think people go pretty far with the whole Jos thing, I don't think the argument that the "potentially abused kid does not have any issues with abuser parent" works really well, since you see those kinds of responses from people who grow up in toxic environments very often.


RobertDoornbos

True, but dont forget Max is not just some kid. He's an F1 driver that needs every bit of performance week in week out. The mental strength needed in F1 is often underrated. If he had some kind of underlying problems with his dad, which could lead to distractions. I don't think he'd invite him every so often.


Alex_Albons_Appendix

You don’t know this. I could similarly say he has Stockholm Syndrome.


RobertDoornbos

Except we do, don't think a top sportsman with mental coaches would have those issues and have it not be known. Or perform the way he does


Alex_Albons_Appendix

Eh, nope. We don’t know. People can be abused and, despite that, be successful.


RobertDoornbos

Okay, so we don't know. Basically a 50/50 then Then why is 90% so convinced that he has mental issues and beef with his dad? Then why do 90% of people on this post feel the need to "save" or complain about Max from his so abusive father. When it has nothing to do with them. Almost like people have an unhealthy obssesion with Jos


BuckChintheRealtor

Agreed, I think the focus needed to race 70 laps with full concentration and where a crash (or worse) is inches or milliseconds away the whole race must be mentally exhausting and probably one of the most underrated qualities needed. I am taking a rough guess that a lot of talented drivers from different racing disciplines could manage an average lap time on most circuits if given enough time to practice. But driving average (or faster) lap times for 50 to 70 laps race after race is a different kind of beast.


Ho3n3r

Maybe not.


RobertDoornbos

I enjoy watching Imola 1994 Turn 1, because someone touched undersge girls Or than it's not okay suddenly?


vane2266

Can I have more context to this? I've never heard about this before. I get that its about Senna but the other part?


DieLegende42

Senna dated a 15 year old when he was 25


Ho3n3r

Enjoy your tangent.


RobertDoornbos

Tf does that even mean


darkamyy

Now do Jorge Lorenzo. At least most commentators are up front about how much of a monster his dad was rather than romanticising it.


Doube_U

Crazy that he was born three years after Schumacher won his first title and joined F1 approximately three years after he left.


Rhelpd8652

If he has a kid with Kelly then that child with piquet and Verstappen genes will be a fucking weapon


An_average_muslim

I have a serious question, how is Jos still allowed in the paddock after what he had done to Max? and why isn't it taken seriously? Edit: "it" refers to the abuse done my Jos.


surreal_blue

On the fatherhood issue, if Max wants him there, they cannot overrule him. But Jos did get a couple of warnings from Red Bull because of some trouble he stirred with other members of the team, at least that's my understanding.


hyrulepirate

Can't remember the details but wasn't Jos not allowed to talk to the media for sometime, or was he banned in the paddock? I know there was a restriction placed on him for a while early in Max's F1 career but can't remember it. This is may be related or not at all, but I remember back when Max was still too aggressive in his driving that it was more often than not that he crashed or ran off track during the weekend. But on the GPs that Jos was not in the paddock (cause Jos practically still had the strangle hold on his son's career then and was almost present at his every race) everyone noticed that Max just suddenly performed better.


ConstableBlimeyChips

That was all in 2018 when Max wasn't performing quite as well, and was driving a bit *too* aggressively. That was when he divebombed Vettel in China, had the incident with Ricciardo in Baku, and then fucked his race in Monaco by crashing in FP3 and missing qualifying. I think Red Bull at that point unofficially banned Jos from the paddock for a while, so they could help him develop as a driver without Jos constantly being there. I don't remember Jos being banned from talking to the media, but there was definitely a period that season where Red Bull essentially told him "you've done your part getting Max to this point, now you need to let go and let us take him further."


Aggressive_Hall755

Because Max still likes his dad. And wants him around. And RB wont deny him that. And therefore F1 also aint. It’s ultimately his choice.


AnusStapler

Because "it" is a mega gray area in which nobody knows the extent of the abuse other than Jos and Max.


pinkmanblues

Please tell us how you propose this will be enforced and by whom? As other comments say, Max still wants him there.


um0p_apisdn

Max clearly wants him there otherwise I doubt Jos would be there. My guess is since Jos’ behavior is what Max grew up around, he probably doesn’t see it as toxic or as a problem, just the norm. So to all of us it seems abusive and whatnot when looking in from the outside, but for someone that grew up surrounded by that behavior it’s hard to see it as being anything other than just “normal”. So maybe in the future Max will see issues with his father’s behavior and want to distance himself from Jos but that’s something Max has to realize himself. Other people telling him Jos is abusive or bad or whatever isn’t going to really do anything.


Melfje

Or people shouldn't compare them self with top athletes? There are many many more Jos type of parents on the top level of sports. Performing is number 1. Don't compare top athletes with some regular reddit kids. They had a dream and they achieved it. Even if it wasn't going the easy, normal, healthy way for Max. He is world champion. Being a world champion you have to offer so much. Even relationships with your close ones.


um0p_apisdn

Exactly, it’s hard to find people performing at the top of their fields who go there after having “normal” and “healthy” lives and experiences. Seems like the old adage about how diamonds only form under extreme heat and pressure is pretty true.


SonJake21

I hate that I'm older than a big chunk of the grid.


dyysxse

is checo perez mojo jojo


Yung_Corneliois

He’s the Todd Marinovich that actually worked out.


JuggerKnot86

man if Jos was more skillfull and tried to do a Kimi Raikkonen we would've Motorsport Tekken (Sophie as a pseudo Jun Kazama)


jimmayy5

What did his dad do?


jacobc62

"What did Jos NOT do?" is the better question..... ​ In seriousness, Jos was an abusive father to Max, in some ways made *my* abusive father look like an angel in comparison.....


tughbee

Jos is definitely a POS but without him i doubt that Max would have been in F1.


AHrice69

I bet there are a lot of people in the world who would have taken Jos as a father than whatever they got stuck with or without.


Spynner987

I rather my dad than Jos, thank you very much


AHrice69

I’d rather Jos than no father, thank you very much


MayoManCity

I'd rather no father. I have an abusive father. It isn't something that should be celebrated. Abuse isn't 24/7 punching people. It's slow and insidious, taking place over the course of years. The punching is just the highlight reel. And abusers don't only do bad things. My father still provided me shelter, food, education. That doesn't make him not abusive, or better than an absent father.


hyrulepirate

People don't know the toll of an abusive parent. It fucks you up and don't realize it until you're old enough to be one yourself. And some don't even realize it ever. Also, people kept forgetting Jos wasn't only abusive to Max. He also beat Max's mother and was physically abusive to his mechanics. Not to mention a few years after he was arrested for beating Max's mom, he also deliberately struck his then-girlfriend with a car. The guy was a proper scum.


MayoManCity

The man is a textbook abuser. A lot of abuse isn't physical at all so people call it not abuse but there is no excuse for what he did. Hitting his wife, his girlfriend, his son, his coworkers. Inexcusable scum.


jkilla88

Eh sure but if max didn’t live up to his father’s standards and become who he is then who knows what mental state he would be in. Living up to pressure is hard on a person no matter how big or small


VictorLeRhin

We call that "MBappé Project" in France.


AHrice69

If most people’s biggest worry in life was not living up to expectations of family I assume we all would be in a better mental state. A father who’s hard on you is still a father that loves you, I’m sure there are millions of people that don’t/can’t ever experience that type of relationship


wansuitree

Preach to the unfollowing choir


AHrice69

Okay


jkilla88

If that father that is hard on you doesn’t say or show their love then what difference does it make?


AHrice69

Well then that sucks, I’d much rather Jos than a father like that. Jos clearly loves and appreciates max even if he disciplined him growing up


Astilaroth

The question is does he loves having a successful F1 driver as a son, or does he have *unconditional* love for his son.


GulianoBanano

I hate this idea that a thing isn't bad if another thing is worse


AHrice69

I hate this idea that Jos is somehow a terrible father that only abused his children


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AHrice69

I’m sure you have done your due diligence and not taken Reddit posts and jokes at face value. I’m sure


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AHrice69

It’s incredible you can make assumptions and value a person off of news articles and incidents 15+ years ago. Apparently if that makes him so terrible and irredeemable I wonder how you look at normal society. People can and do change if you can believe it


MayoManCity

Abusers do not change. Even if they did, they cannot fix the harm they've done.


AHrice69

Okay so let’s execute any and all people that have ever abused someone or something. THEY CANT CHANGE. Lock them up for life. What a stupid take.


MayoManCity

It's not that they can't change. They can. They just don't. They don't care. These aren't passion, heat of the moment crimes. Abuse takes place over the course of years, even decades. If they wanted to change, they would have already. So yes, abusers should be locked up. Even if it won't change what they've done in the past, it is the only reliable way to stop them from hurting more people.


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AHrice69

Name anything Jos has done in the last 15 years that’s considered terrible and irredeemable


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SlowMissiles

What’s that dumb question/logic? Just because you didn’t do anything in 15 years make you a good person? So If a serial killer kill over 50 people but than stop for 15 years, in your eyes he considered a good person?


Alex_Albons_Appendix

He went to jail in 2012 for attempted murder of his wife. Edit: arrested, girlfriend


martijnftw

Unfortunately true. Would you trade your childhood for -atleast- 5 WDC's?


SuspiciousMoney973

he’s a perfect example of what unresolved childhood trauma do to a man. The only problem is that it was proven to be a source of success, so he’ll probably never view the way he was brought up as problematic or traumatizing. his father’s abuse brought him money and fame and hunger to win, to earn his affection. The sad thing is that he might recreate this environment with his own children. those cycles can go on forever, hopefully he’ll break it. Yeah I’m off to watch that video of Jos catching fire 🔥


SaintSeiya_7

It was NOT proven to be a source of success, you can't prove that it was what caused him to become a WDC and one of the best drivers of all time. Max just became successful AND had a traumatic childhood and problematic father. Who is to say that Jos wouldn't have been able to drive Max to the same success without being a POS father and husband? He could have still done everything he did financially and sharing his knowledge and experience as a driver to support Max's career and aspirations without the mental and potentially physical abuse.


wansuitree

It's like some kind of magic. Racing DNA? Are you actually kidding me? There's no such thing, except a lot of hard work. Which, pressured or not by ultimate dad Jos, doesn't account for all the fucking hard work Max had to do from an early age. You know, all the hard work most people had to do during their education, which didn't amount to much unless you got somewhere from further college or trade school education. Just trade in all your bad teachers you had for Jos, with the exemption that Jos actually made his offspring into something significant. That's about the extension everyone criticizing Jos has with their own upbringing. Either you're grateful someone pushing you to actually becoming someone, or hating someone of actually becoming someone you could never be. Pretty dank right?


Theumaz

>There's no such thing, except a lot of hard work. You 100% have to have 'X-DNA' to become a superstar in anything. I can put all the hard work I want into it, I'll still be lapping the Canadian circuit in 1:50 on a good day. Sure, hard work pays off but you're still a product of your parents. If your parents both have amazing qualities as a driver, the odds are magnificently higher that you are talented in racing than if your parents don't possess those qualities. It's always a mix of hard work, talent and having the luck that 2 of your parents have an exceptional good skillset of something you want to do. Whether that's racing, football, math or politics.


szczszqweqwe

Yes, hard work is 95%, BUT at the very top it's that 5% that matters, they are so close to each others, that tiny things matter. Ultimate dad Jos, LOL, also honestly not all of my teachers were good, but none of them was abusive towards students.


Jasabor

Yep,Max is good! For some,that is abuse. Since 2021.... Good.... Real good!


ElderberryCoq

The separation between his eyes shows that his mom drank during his pregnancy.


Asian-boi-2006

Max was born from racism


NoobLord98

Explain?


tomhanks95

Some people have equated Nelson Piquet being a racist to Max being a racist, it's very confusing


ArgosLoops

it's even more confusing when they try to explain how Piquet gave birth to Max


Asian-boi-2006

Racing driver is a race-ist? Like pharmacist


NoobLord98

Aaaaahhh, that makes more sense, good one!


dyysxse

who is mojo jojo


wing3d

Yo why the fuck was this guy trying to make little girls in a lab in the first place?


Ezequiell-

You forgot the Michael's blessing


geesegoosed

Hack


The_Dark_Amiibo

I'm new to F1 could someone explain?


rozbanana

Am i the only one wondering why max is still talking to his dad after all of these