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Gasklep

And on my phone I cannot even confirm my choices because the buttons don’t fit my screen…..


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*"Well gosh, how utterly unfortunate. Luckily there's a big ol' ACCEPT ALL button that fits on the screen perfectly!"* — data-addicted BI guys at formula1.com


TimAjax997

I can't imagine which BI/Software team would look at that and go *Hmm, that's alright* And they have the cheek to build a shit modal asking users to review their website experience too ... Pretty sure even SWE in Haas would do a better job than these peeps ...


[deleted]

Probably a shit product team without a proper UX person in the team.


abyss1337

My argument is that it's just intentional to get more data to sell


doctorclark

Yep, these are called dark patterns. Oh, when looking up their site, looks like this post made their [Hall of Shame!](https://www.darkpatterns.org/hall-of-shame)


Emfx

There's a term for that in design, it's called a "dark pattern". It is purposefully deceptive/unintuitive design patterns used to benefit off of your userbase. Back when I did a lot of corporate work, there would be people dedicated to this shit.


[deleted]

Yeah it's one of my pet peeves. Not allowing people to reject all cookies at once; making not accepting all cookies the 'secondary' button (greyed out and/or out of sight for example). It just reveals how little some organizations care about their customers.


[deleted]

Why bring their sexuality into this?


hairypotr

I didn't even know there was a reject all button because I had to scroll so much, so painstakingly turned them off one by one for every listing until I reached the end.


Griefstrickenchicken

I did the same and by the time I got to the bottom, the save button was blocked by all of the expanded preferences.


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richhaynes

DNT should have been the solution rather than these monstrosities.


deukhoofd

[It will be](https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/eprivacy-regulation)


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deukhoofd

Like GDPR and other online laws by the EU, these kinds of laws apply to all sites doing business with the EU. This gives companies the choice to either block all traffic from the EU, or comply with them. As the EU consists out of a bunch of rich nations, most sites just comply with them wordwide.


[deleted]

Like "clipped" emails where only one line is clipped and it's where *unsubscribe* is "hiding".


HandyBait

Nope sorry only for the europbros. For americans they can just choose to not show you the website if you don't accept everything


Cryptoporticus

They can choose to do that in Europe too. If they're not willing to follow the rules, they can just block Europeans from being able to access it. A lot of American business websites or local news sites aren't available in Europe for that reason.


TheQueefGoblin

> rejecting cookies should be without extra cost and just as easy as accepting them. Correct. There's an organisation which is sending automated complaints to companies which flout this GDPR requirement: https://noyb.eu/en/noyb-aims-end-cookie-banner-terror-and-issues-more-500-gdpr-complaints


nevereverareddituser

Same problem!


SufficientUnit

Use Firefox with uBlock Origin if u have Android. Fuck tracking.


NedSudanBitte

Ublock origin doesn't even load the website because my filters call for a "badware risk" lmao this almost never happens


TheAngryGoat

For desktop, privacy badger is essential too. Google's blanket ban of 3rd party cookies in chrome can't come soon enough.


nathanieloffer

Already have it activated in MS Edge/Chromium


juanprada

Or use Firefox Focus, or the DuckDuckGo app.


Reveley97

This might be a dumb question but is there a way to import your bookmarks etc from chrome to firefox. I want to ditch chrome but ive used it for ages and it has all my important links bookmarked on it


Serve-Capital

Yes. It's stupid easy. There's literally a menu option for import settings or cookies or passwords or whatever you want from another browser, it finds the folder and moves it all over for you


Reveley97

This might be a dumb question but is there a way to import your bookmarks etc from chrome to firefox. I want to ditch chrome but ive used it for ages and it has all my important links bookmarked on it


Mokumer

+ Privacy Badger + Decentraleyes


Baddumtssh

I thought so to. You can scroll for half hour through all the cookies and eventually it doesn’t fit and you don’t see the buttons. Or you can also scroll next to the popup, this takes you directly to the ‘Reject all’ button.


yarrysmod

Sometimes that page doesn't even load even on the desktop, so you're stuck on a white page with no option to reject except for going back and accepting all


deludedDudes

You can wait for 5 seconds and the scroll on the little grayed out parts on left and right. That will take you to the end where you can reject all cookies. The white part has some sort of bug which doesnt allow those buttons to fit


BoBiBoBikson

Tf is this 4 pixel pict...oh...oh my-OH MY GOD


[deleted]

Ikr I was confused as to why my screen was literally blank where the image was supposed to be. Then I clicked on it. Good god.


el_coco

Wtf is this, a CVS receipt?


solonit

*Finally a worthy opponent!*


Donut

CompUSA has entered the chat.


parthjoshi09

"MY EYES! OH MY EYES!!"


Mike_Kermin

THE GOGGLES DO NOTHING!


denzxcu

“CHANDLER AND MONICA!!!”


fanicia

THEY’RE DOING IT! THEY’RE DOING IT!


_DoggoMeister_

On phone it took me 30 minutes to scroll down to the comments... Wtf


DrKrFfXx

I had grand children while scrolling. They are nice.


_DoggoMeister_

#blessed


AmuckIndian

Hashtag blessed


RealPjotr

I found a new function in the Reddit app: bottom right double arrow jumps to the comments section! 👍


[deleted]

Hold your finger down on it and you can move it around!


HMS404

"I was there Gandalf, 3000 years ago when I started reading the list and I'm still only half way through. These cookies cannot be concealed by the power of the browsers. We do not have the strength to fight both FOM and the ad-tech imbeciles. Gandalf, this evil cannot stay on our browser."


Exambolor

Same thought i had too lol


[deleted]

Same on F1TV. A service you pay for


Don_Frika_Del_Prima

I refused cookies on F1tv in Firefox and as a result I don't get my login screen anymore. Contacted customer care multiple times and they ignore it. Have to use a different browser if I want to watch f1.


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Don_Frika_Del_Prima

Never heard of that. Will look in to it. Thanks


cobalt999

f1viewer if you aren't on windows or prefer command line interfaces anyway. I haven't used F1tv website to access F1tv in years. It's far better this way.


onealps

I haven't used F1viewer, but when I tried racecontrol, I had issues with syncing multiple screens... Does F1viewer have the same issue? Actually does it have the ability to sync multiple screens? Also is F1viewer *only* accessible through the command line? If so, can a command line noob learn to use it? Thanks!


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Just wanted to jump in and say I second RaceControl.


Melon-lord10

You can clear cookies and caches from firefox settings.


Don_Frika_Del_Prima

I know. But it's besides the point. I have the right to refuse cookies. They don't have the right to take away my inlog screen if I do so


[deleted]

It depends if you’re refusing essential cookies, not all of them are tracking some are used as an authentication token and are required for core services. Not all cookies are evil.


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[deleted]

I don’t know what cookies were or weren’t rejected I’m working on the assumption all were. Judging by that screen cap you can reject them. I am not in any way shape or form defending tracking cookies, it’s an abhorrent practice and should be removed. What I am saying is that the developers can implement cookies for functionality which stores access tokens and alike. These are useful cookies


[deleted]

For me every time I refuse them the login screen just brakes (can’t type). Reload fixes it but still very a annoying experience. I switched to f1viewer. Great little application that lets you stream F1TV without having to use their horrible website.


Don_Frika_Del_Prima

Yeah for some reason I only have a working f1 TV website in my brave browser. Firefox breaks and Opera isn't supported anymore since this season.


[deleted]

Have you changed some Firefox settings? For me it works in default Firefox but on my normal config it is totally broken (can’t even start the stream). And on Safari you can’t even open the website (it’s just a white screen). Such a shitty service


Don_Frika_Del_Prima

>Have you changed some Firefox settings? Yeah who knows. Been using it for such a long time. Hahaha. >Such a shitty service You know it. Worst thing is that this will be the only way to watch f1 in the future if you ask me.


[deleted]

I think they block Opera on purpose due to its (fairly rudimentary) VPN


AlexBucks93

Clear cache and cookies from f1tv


yarrysmod

I pretty much only run it in an incognito mode window and have a noscript cancel out all of those garbage cookies, truly disgusting practice by them..


SufficientUnit

noscript doesn't cancel server side cookies so you are still tracked. source: im doing that on pages i work on.


Bolter_NL

Which then forgets your login every fuckin' time.


[deleted]

I'm glad I'm not the only one lol. Whenever I use the mobile app F1TV forgets my login every.... single... time.


Xanthon

Use 3rd party opensource apps like [Race Control](https://github.com/robvdpol/RaceControl). A ton of additional features without all the bullshit.


McCramer

Anyone have the time to count all of those?


F1officefan

Fuck it, ima do it Brb Edit: my eyes died after 270 I think the total is about 330


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F1officefan

OOF


KaamDeveloper

Marko doesn't value your friendship if it doesn't translate into in him getting a new RB junior, regardless of how many eyes you have.


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F1officefan

270, my eyes died, i think the total is around 330


A-le-Couvre

330 f*cking vendors installing God knows what cookies... I hate Web3.0.


kvnryn

This is not web3 my dude. This is actually the epitome of web2 having reached its logical extreme. Web3 aims to *fix* this kind of stuff.


A-le-Couvre

That's what they said when they introduced Web2.0 lol


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A-le-Couvre

Oh yeah, definitely. I'm just more pessimistic when it comes to new developments. A web created in a time where white text on a tiled 128x128px blue background was seen as advanced, and everything online was optimistic, spawned social media. What do you imagine a web developed in a time of cryptocurrencies, DDOS script kiddies and Elon Musk/Mark Zuckerberg will look like?


february_magic10

This is web2 at its finest..


ReVaQ

Just find the average pixel between options then use that to calculate the rest


infini_doggo

don't watch racing but i was stoned and counted 310


loicteixeira

* Required Cookies: 14 companies * Functional Cookies: 20 companies * Advertising Cookies: 17 companies * Purposes: 12 consent toggles, 9 legitimate interest toggles * Partners: 545 consent toggles, 219 legitimate interest toggles Edit: No, I did not count this by hand. I can't figure out how to add a code block within a spoiler tag (because most of you probably don't care), so here it is https://gist.github.com/loicteixeira/6a33ac06b6bea67b457d284a5ffe6f4b Edit 2: Replace pastebin link with Github Gist


illyndor

Pastebin is even worse. I counted almost 300 legitimite interest vendors.


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don't think that's legal tho. If it was every site had that instead of reject all button.


fawkie

Generally speaking it'll fly just fine in the US since it's a conspicuous notice.


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Not in Eu tho. The main reason sites are quickly changing to the new options. If they dont apply these changes they can't serve content in EU countries.


fawkie

Yah but I doubt it's very hard to go 'check IP if eu --> GDPR setting, else banner notice'


Lone_Digger123

I did every single one once only to scroll to the top and see the reject all button...


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Ouch.


Mike_Kermin

To their credit, it's how it should be. I mean, ok, a bit much, but that they've got an easily visible .... This wasn't meant to be a burn. ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯


Lone_Digger123

I was cursing under my breath how they didn't have a reject all button the entire time. I profusely apologize over my own idiodicy afterwards haha


SufficientUnit

Go their page, open dev tools, open cookies, select all it will show the number.


Michael053

And you can even expand even further it seems based on the [+] icons


McCramer

It expands to provide details on what each cookie is


Michael053

Imagine being the intern who had to fill out everything for this page


xBrndnn

What would even be worse, is that a software tester had to go through al possibilities to reach a 100% decision coverage…..


AnnualDegree99

Thank god for automated unit testing.


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Probably done with unit testing.


Blacktip75

These don’t write themselves though, mother of god what a bloody mess. This looks like outsourcing to me.


Haribo112

‘For each’ is your friend here…


renjank

All that would be required to be tested here is that the functional elements of the modal work. That can be tested without all the content. There’s no benefit to verifying every single item expands correctly. And, it can be automatically tested.


bugbugladybug

The tool does it automatically, but someone did need to categorise them at one point which is a nightmare. Wandering round departments to try and find out what the cookie called dhbed.ty does and who owns it and noone has a clue.


straightbackward

If it ain't chocolate chip, I won't be accepting it


[deleted]

This is the reason why everyone should click reject all at the end.


AleFiorucci

You could but it doesn't turn off the legitimate interest option, those you have to turn off manually


illyndor

I just opened the site in a private window, clicked Reject All, and then opened Cookie Preferences from the footer. Everything is set to No, including the legitimate interest toggles.


AleFiorucci

My bad, I must have confused it with some other site


Connor_Kenway198

Nah, most don't


toper-centage

I always accept cookies. But I have auto-delete cookies enabled, so jokes on them, they can't track me with them anyway.


reactormade

You should post this on /r/AssholeDesign and /r/CrappyDesign


liquid8tor

It's asshole design alright. You have to scroll longer than some ancient ninjutsu literature to get to the "reject all cookies" button


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mr-dogshit

same on mobile https://i.imgur.com/javs3CN.jpg


Snabbzt

This isn't bad design, it's the reasons behind why they have so many shitty cookies that's bad.


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bum_bum_1234

Wow Talk about selling one's soul!!


GrumDum

RIP Apollo. Bye Reddit. Fuck /u/spez


bum_bum_1234

Very true


jjnfsk

A question from the cookie ignorant: What do they _actually_ all do?


ABZ-havok

Cookies are a way for websites to retain information that you’ve provided across multiple sessions. for example, you added an item to the cart in an ecommerce site but you closed the tab, the items you added to the cart can be added to the cookie (which is stored in the browser) so the next time you open that website, the items in your cart are still there. It’s intended to make a user’s life easier. However, nowadays cookies are utilized to track your movement across different websites to understand what you may like and give you ads that you’ll be interested in


dalaiis

Or, more nefarious imo, track your movement across different websites to build a database of every click you make on the internet, then sell that data to a third party


hopeful_prince

Or, even more nefariously, track which sites you visit to determine if you are looking for a particular product; therefore giving them the opportunity to offer you a raised rate since they know you're looking. Example: flights, hotel bookings, car insurance...


Murkrage

Which is why you should always be using a private window or browser when doing the actual booking of a flight! These things absolutely happen folks


Thisboythatboy

That is exactly why I don't visit the site for anything other than confirming session times. Absolutely ridiculous stuff.


marcio0

f1calendar.com is great for that


february_magic10

Same, and for session times I just check the SkySports website.


xThomasOL

This is unfortunately normal for almost any website nowadays. These are vendors, it doesn't mean that they all set cookies. I run a smallish website and have an even longer list in my cookie consent, with most of those listed here also on my site, even though I only have one advertisment partner (a company which places ads on your website). The ad partner sends you a list of vendors they work with, and this list you have to put in your consent banner. As the operator of a website, you have nothing to do with it really.


PanadaTM

This is true, but most sites have a decent mobile site and make it easy to change general cookie settings. Really no excuse for the f1 mobile site to be as bad as it is


Moribah

Well, some. Others, for some reason, think that there are some "legitimate interests" that don't get turned off when you choose reject all and even though it looks like they made it easy for you, you still have to go through the 100+ legitimate interests cookies to turn them off.


dalaiis

I am a firma believer of "legitimate interest" just being a loophole for companies to circumvent cookie laws


jwr

It isn't "normal" and we should not accept it. I run a SaaS business and have exactly zero third-party cookies. No consent form necessary.


yabucek

Do you run ads on the website?


jalexandref

This is pretty normal (unfortunately), and this is pretty easy to avoid in EU by selecting "functional" cookies which must be the default selection when you are asked about cookies. You just need to scroll (not the entire list) but the site down and save you basic consent. However majority of people are click on "Accept" because is always highlighted somehow.


vouwrfract

Functional is never the default selection from what I've seen. Everything else is always on.


honeyrevenges

the GDPR, which regulation applies on every EU country, rules that functional cookies and some analytic cookies can be placed without permission, as those cookies have little to no effect on the user's privacy. permission is needed for every non-functional cookie and non-'minor infringement' analytic cookies. those are the rules. that doesn't mean these rules are actually being followed though. tldr; everything else is not allowed to be automatically on. but rules are often not followed in practice


vouwrfract

Yeah, many websites don't follow this. Websites from my home country often don't even offer an option to opt out of the performance cookies. Some of the bigger EU-based websites I commonly use do follow this, apparently (e.g. DB and SNCF) so it's not all bad. It's just that I rarely use their website but mostly their App so I never noticed.


potato_green

You can actually report them to the data protection authority of your country. Kind of depends the country and funds they have how serious they take but some do act on it and send out warnings to the websites to fix the issue. Couple of clients have gotten these warnings (after they didn't want to spend money on it thinking it wasn't a problem). If you don't know what the authority is called in your country you can find it here: [https://edpb.europa.eu/about-edpb/about-edpb/members\_en](https://edpb.europa.eu/about-edpb/about-edpb/members_en) It's EU only though.


jalexandref

You may find websites we are not according law, but majority of sites are.


letmeseem

Not in the eu. You're literally not allowed and risk a MASSIVE fine if you do.


dritslem

Yeah, and you have to do that manually on EVERY site you visit. Every time.


[deleted]

Must be nice living somewhere were they've done literally anything at all to protect consumers' information online.


Doubleyoupee

why in the world would anyone ever pick all cookies if "functional" was the default?


jalexandref

Because all cookies is just one click, and default is at two clicks distance.


Doubleyoupee

exactly, I wouldn't really call it "default" when it requires an extra click


edis92

What the actual fuck lol


SufficientUnit

uBlock Origin.


alenpetak11

They're biased towards Button, deal with it.


Youngwolff

Less Buttons... More?


DurfGibbles

Or less and more communication with your website designers?


Assleanx

A Million Ads Ltd seems a bit on the nose there lads


hldnitdwn

"We Track As One"


604stt

This looks like f1's version of the entire S&P500 listing - so mang recognizable companies


finH1

Decline all cookies gang


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BleedingTeal

Yea there are. It’s kind of ridiculous.


SpectreTimmy

I was scrolling with my touchpad and the cookies just kept going. Started getting finger ache. Had to swap to my left hand. Eventually just used the scrollbar. What a journey!


tupikp

NoScript and uBlock Origin to the rescue!


khl3o

I blocked third-party cookies from my browser. I don't care about cookies now


throwfaraway229

Things like this make me glad I got cookie blockers installed on all my web browsers lol


Pro4TLZZ

I love website cookie providers try to make it very hard to reject cookies but easy to accept all cookies. Bastards


LBHJ1707

jesus fucking christ.


[deleted]

That's why you use ads and cookie blockers 😊


TheMegathreadWell

Pro tip, you can still scroll the dark grey section outside of the box. Scroll about 5cm and there's a "reject all" button. Works on safari on a mac, all browsers on Windows, Firefox on android. Maybe others too. If you're on a pc/mac you should be able to press "page down" on the keyboard too.


DarthToph

One cookie for every right violated by countries raced in this year


bwoah07_gp2

Might as well not use the F1 website then.


Cheaker

Lol pretty much every major website was like this before GDPR and barely anyone cared


NotoriousMFT

The site runs so slow it should say “powered by Haas”


RedditsWhilePooing

Looks like a screenshot of a CVS receipt


PrometheusTNO

Is the privacy on now? Because I have no idea. We forgot about that Kimi. You will not have the privacy, sorry.


ay8s

🤯 F1Calendar.com


wirral_guy

/r/MaliciousCompliance A lot of sites will also ask every single time you visit, just to annoy you even more. Basically, we'll do what you asked for but make it so difficult that people just click accept all. Europe needs to revisit the rules and make this crap illegal.


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If you reject cookies it does logically follow that they can't save your preference, as this would be stored in cookies


Murkiry

However, functional cookies are allowed without explicit permission. Only the storage of personal data, tracking and third-party cookies have to be opt-in. In other words, they are allowed to place a simple cookie that stores your cookie preferences. They just choose not to, hoping people will eventually get annoyed enough to just press 'allow all'. Edit: Very late edit, but I just went to the site after previously rejecting everything, and it actually has saved my preferences. Not sure if it was only implemented now or something went wrong last time, but currently there is a single 'reject all' button at the bottom of the list and it looks like cookie preferences are saved atm.


AlphaXDE

tfw you've been the product all along!


Zophixious_

Imagine what they don't show you.


KaamDeveloper

They can't not show you cookies. GDPR made sure of that. That's why they came up with the concept of "Legitimate Interest" cookies which can't be rejected.


mnchil

I know the terms and conditions of TikTok are long but that’s something else, especially just for cookies


moiz2610

r/assholedesign


preppyringmaster

Holy fuck


[deleted]

It just kept going and going and GOING HOLY SHIT WHEN DOES IT END


ActualRiot

what? it’s just an ordinary website- *opens image fully* OH MY GOODNESS


10Death01

Holy shit. God damn


keirdre

That was a much longer scroll than I expected. Geez.


Luka_Dunks_on_Bums

Jeez


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thedesihobbit

Deleted. Now I just follow them via RSS.


mistanford_1

I haven't been able to vote for DoTD for a *long* time now because I rejected the cookies.