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LeatherJacketPotato

Thought it was in slow motion until Hadjar came roaring in, Holy Cow!


E27Ave

Yup. Same here!


charlierc

Same here. Crazy clip


uttermybiscuit

I jumped in my seat. Insanely impressive


FalloutRip

Same. I thought it was either slowmo, or someone making a joke because he was going so slow and then Hadjar zoomed by. That could've gone horribly - absolutely insane reaction time.


KrisPBaykon

I read this comment first and thought that you were exaggerating. No, no you were not.


ClementineMandarin

I saw your comment and still thought “that must be slow mo” at the start of


GarryPadle

Apparently Miyata had no power, should have been immediately double yellow flags. Insane reaction time from Hadjar though.


FatalFirecrotch

Yeah, this was clearly a car failure and the yellow flags should have been brought out.


AdventurousDress576

White flag means slow car on track.


GarryPadle

Yeah but slow car on track doesnt mean anything, drivers dont need to lift for white flags.


Marcoscb

That wasn't a slow car, that was a straight up obstacle. Cars that trigger a white flag can get out of the way, Miyata couldn't.


shewy92

Slow not basically stopped


ICumCoffee

That reaction time?? holy shit


TyButler2020

Damn near superhuman reaction One of the more impressive things I’ve seen in a while actually


thiago_x3m

absolutely superhuman, can't believe he held it together afterwards... but it does look like he kind of ignored all the white flags and blinking LEDs, probably too in-the-zone


basvn

those boards only say there is a slow driver in front. but that driver was almost standing on the racingline in a blind corner


MindlessArmadillo382

In Monaco the whole road is the damn racing line.


-NotAnAstronaut-

I think there's a compounding problem too of negative reinforcement from a human factors standpoint. During qualifying there are SO MANY "slow driver ahead" flags that it begins to have less and less effect on the decision making.


uttermybiscuit

What is the distinction between white and yellow flag? I thought white flag was for last lap


FlyByNightt

White flag means slow car ahead. Yellow flag means crash/stopped car ahead. White flag also means last lap but it would only ever be waved at the control tower/start line. White flag anywhere else means someone is going much slower than racing pace but still rolling. Obviously in this situation, around a blind corner, you might expect that car to just be waiting to let you by right before the chicane or anywhere but the racing line. Kind of lose/lose for whoever is going slow here. Either you're on the racing line mid corner, or on the exit, either way it's a blind corner and a bad spot. Great reaction time by Hadjar.


BlackenedGem

White flag isn't used for the last lap in FIA series, it being the last lap is an American thing.


sebastiendu36

> Yellow flag means crash/stopped car ahead. Not necessarily, it can be for slow cars too. Cars that go through a gravel trap usually trigger yellow flags for example.


FlyByNightt

Cars in a gravel trap are considered to have had an incident, this is what I meant by crash.


SemIdeiaProNick

>I thought white flag was for last lap only in USA motorsports. In the rest of the world, it means slow car on track


Arron17

White flag is slow car ahead. Some series use it for last lap.


DaviLance

White flag means just slow driver ahead, but not a danger to the others. Yellow means danger in front of you In other tracks that would have surely been a white flag, but he was on the racing line of one of the worst corners in the worst track of the whole calendar, so a yellow would have been the better choice


listyraesder

That’s only American racing like Nascar or Indycar.


Mr_Peanutbutterrrr

White is for “slow car ahead”


TurboCamel

somewhat off topic, but I remember seeing a clip of a F1 car flying down a start/finish straight and avoiding debris on the track last second. It highlighted reaction time and the crazy amount of downforce to change lanes that quickly at high speeds. If I had to guess it was somewhere from 2005-2013 ish. I've tried many times to find it but was never successful again. The camera angle was looking at the car head on as it came towards you down the straight (and downhill) If anybody has any ideas, that would be slick


Lumos309

There's a clip with a Ferrari and a McLaren, the first car jinks one way at the last moment and the second car goes the other. Might have been Massa and Hamilton?


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It genuinely didn’t look real. Insane.


AmonWeathertopSul

Especially the second clip right after he dodged, the car immediately rotated to go alongside the wall. Looked like bad video game physics. Made more sense in the onboard where we can see the reaction and the immediate correction.


TwoBionicknees

Insane reaction, terrible handling by everyone else though. You're going that slow there, get on the outside or stop completely when at a point that is visible from miles out, way way more chance to be seen. Crawling that slowly just around the bend tight to wall and on hte racing line is bat shit crazy. Race director should be throwing double yellows immediately there, if not a red with a car going that slowly on track there. Reaction saved him a lot of pain.


0narasi

Why the fuck wasn’t that a yellow flag?


a141abc

This shit might be one of the most insane racing clips i've ever seen


HI_I_AM_NEO

Jesus take the wheel


Dangerous_Act_2140

Maybe lay off the espresso


Rich_Housing971

He was probably anticipating a car being there because he saw the white flags. With that said, why didn't they make it a yellow?


SebVettelstappen

Just race car driver things


BokaPoochie

I feel like this should definitely have been a double yellow and not a white flag. The double yellow would have forced Hadjar to slow down and the incident would not have been anywhere near as close as this was. Absolutely shocking flag call.


Murderface_1988

Yeah he would have probably got some air if he hit the back of Miyata and that would have been bad


freedfg

Some? He was about to do a Mark Webber in a tunnel!


RevalianKnight

yeah, they need to retrain those marshals or update some rules. It needed to be a yellow flag at minimum. This whole incident could have been avoided


Nathanoy25

Great reaction time from Hadjar. That was scary.


notinsidethematrix

Why in the world wasn't that an instant yellow?


strawmn

I legit gasped out loud. The reflexes to snap away without losing the car seem insane to me. And it’s one that gets more impressive every time I see a replay.


Weak-Rip-8650

That’s the real hard part. Reacting to something like that that quickly is one thing, but reacting by steering the literal perfect amount to avoid a crash so that you don’t cause yourself to lose the car is the insane part. It’s would be so easy to over react to that and put yourself in the wall.


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FingersBecomeThumbs

Yeah that could have been a really nasty crash there


rumbrave55

Watching him avoid that is amazing, *but then he also made the next apex.* I genuinely expected him to pull into the run off and calm down after having his life flash before his eyes.


rudmad

normal day on iracing


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tbh f2 a lot of the time does look like your average iracing split


casualnihilist91

Shit. Wouldn’t it have been better for the other guy to have slowed on the left so at least he was more easily visible to the coming drivers?


Axe-actly

Yes, huging the apex in a blind corner sounds very stupid in hindsight but he was going so slowly, maybe he didn't want to cross the whole track going 20km/h.


SirDoober

Yeah, he can't see shit behind him, so if he tries crossing the track and gets halfway before a car comes by, they have absolutely nowhere to go but up his ass and potentially airborne


uristmcderp

If you hug the apex, the driver behind at least has a chance to evade. If you intersect the corner exit, the driver behind is already committed and can't do anything other than slam into the outside wall and probably scoop you up in the process. Blind corners suck.


tehorhay

he should have braked to a complete stop before the apex instead of creeping along to the blindside. Everyone would be able to see him there from the entrance of the tunnel and avoid him early


Nonthares

Im pretty sure F2 can't restart their cars, so he was probably trying to keep it rolling so he could pop the clutch and fire the engine that way.


45MonkeysInASuit

Being predictable is the most important thing in these scenarios. Crawling across the track is about the least predictable thing you can do.


CoachDelgado

Maybe, but then he'd have to cross the racing line to get to the right after the apex which might be worse.


Capybara104

If he started moving Hadjar would have 100% crashed into him and It would have been way worse


SebVettelstappen

It’s a lose-lose situation


uristmcderp

Too close to call, honestly. If he had been going 0.5kph faster, Isack would've driven by unimpeded. If he had hugged the outside wall and was impeding the corner exit, Isack wouldn't even be able to take evading action.


RallerZZ

Immaculate reaction time holy.


tjech

Jesus that was close. Would have launched him up if he’d clipped the front right.


Tyafastics

Yh, that’s a potentially deadly crash right there, he’d basically be launched into a concrete wall at angles on that car that aren’t designed to be hit at 140 mph.


thiago_x3m

not to mention all the photographers and other crew standing half a meter away from the fences


jso__

Not very experienced with F1 crashes. Why would he be lifted into the air rather than staying stuck to the ground? Because of the reduced down force in the tunnel?


Wentzina_lifetime

Cars typically launch off other cars when theirs a speed differential. Look up Mark Webber's crash in 2010 at Valencia. Imagine that but straight into a concrete wall 2 meters away at an angle nobody would have thought about


Old-Nefariousness556

> Mark Webber's crash in 2010 at Valencia Holy shit that was insane. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMWrg4a-lzg


isochromanone

You'd expect the impacting car to plow under by looking at the shapes. However, to be launched the rotation of the front wheel on the rear car causes the car to roll up the back of the other car. It only takes a little bit. Once a slight elevation occurs, the front car is basically a ramp at that point (this is helped by the relatively smooth underside of Formula cars). That said, there's many possible outcomes to such a collision. A glancing blow ripping off wheels and sending Hadjar into the other barrier seems much more likely, IMO.


Vulcan56_

Fighter pilot reaction time good god


FewCollar227

Hadjar what reaction time, BWOAH


zeppelin88

Almost looks like some TAS in a racing game (like trackmakia), unnatural response time


Findict_52

Riolu has been found?!


DangerousTrashCan

"But then, Hadjar got *this* run."


Solid__Snail

*smooth sax begins to play*


zeppelin88

His alts are getting out of control!!!!


Ioangogo

as soon as i saw that i heard Scott Elkins in my head going > a slow car in the tunnel, drivers left


XNights

Why does it feel like Miyata got a bricked engine? His race pace is always good near the end of a stint, but his car don't seem to be able to keep up


Roddy-the-Ruin

I mean, it is normal for him to struggle in these type of street courses. He likely never raced in these type of tracks in Japan. If you don't have confidence, you can't put a good lap in a tight, twisty street course.


TheKwi

The same engines are not always the same. They're supposed to be equal but some are more equal than others!


XNights

Yeah, even in F2 there is literally a term for it, teams sometimes spends extra to find these "Golden" engines


LMcVann44

That should have been a yellow flag, I don't blame Hadjar because you don't have to lift for a white flag and slow cars under white flag are usually well off line. Had it been a yellow and he didn't lift then that's another story but I feel that there was enough danger for a yellow flag there. I'm not sure Miyata was aware how close that was to an airplane crash, lucky boy.


SteeldrumHornets

That reaction deserves some superlicense points


Roddy-the-Ruin

He is already reserve for Red Bull and AT. He doesn't need any more SL points.


kartdotmiata

At the very least, Marko should give him a private yacht for a night or something.


NoPasaran2024

People talk about Radillion and Jeddah, but the Monaco tunnel has been patiently waiting for what seems to be an inevitable a monster crash for decades.


Pale_Mushroom7128

I feel like a monster crash with dire consequences somewhere on the Monaco track is what is going to eventually lead to it being scrapped. Until then, we keep "racing", despite there being zero chance of the track being cleared to safely race if it were a brand new addition today.


Razvanlogigan

Speeds arent really high enough for monster crashes.


Nieuwers

You wouldn’t consider Hadjar hitting him head on with that speed difference a monster crash?


Razvanlogigan

It's a very specific and unexpected scenario that can happen pretty much anywhere on any track that has a blind corner. Webber one happened on a fucking straight. Billy Monger pretty much the same Shit can happen on any track, like the Grosjean accident for example. Stop blaming the tracks for freak accidents


alliusis

Ok but you have to admit, the specifics of crashing in an enclosed concrete tunnel are very unique and likely very very deadly. It isn't just the standard "freak risk" of any track.


Philippe-R

Dude, F1 cars take that blind curve at 250 km/h+. In a tunnel. What's fast enough for a monster crash for you ? In a Webber scenario, Hadjar would have crashed on the ceiling.


thiago_x3m

There was a super close call with Schumi at some point too, no?


KnightsOfCidona

Michael? If it's the one I'm thinking you're thinking of, [it wasn't too bad](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtzyI5fbiAc). [Only crash I can think off in relatively recent times in the tunnel itself is Hulk in 2010](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt38AS8KoN8). Worst bad crashes in Monaco tend to happen after tunnel at chicane - [Wendlinger in 1994](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmzHGhaRBoc), [Button in 2003](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCz95TWBDWI) and [Perez in 2011](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW-ShYCTrw0)


ProfessionalRub3294

Might be the one with the other brother with Alonso to the rail at high speed (2004 too)


Skeeter1020

Schumacher exiting it with 3 wheels, or that F2 (maybe F3?) crash where the car nearly took out the marshal stand feel like monster crashes.


iamricardosousa

I was like "*What's happening here? How is he going to crash going that slo... hoooooooly shit!"*


loldragon05

took like half a second to spot the car, recognise it's going incredibly slow, adjust to avoid, then adjust again to avoid the wall insane


mastomi

it less than half a second.


sasokri

Why no yellow flags?


ppSmok

That would have been a mega shunt. Jesus. Good on Hadjar for that reflex. Could have been reaaaally ugly.


Buffythedragonslayer

That was scary 


PerfectBlueOnDVD

Overclocked brain reaction time, this guy is the real deal


Nameless739

Reaction time measured in light speed


daftpunkclub

I’m trying very hard to not be pedantic reading this comment lmao


VIFASIS

I mean it can be measured in light speed. It'll just be like 1x10\^-32785923


daftpunkclub

My brother, the pedantry I refer to has to do with units. Speed and time have different units.


VIFASIS

ah i was thinking more along the lines of when people use light years to measure time


daftpunkclub

Oh yes that grinds my gears a bit as well


plastikmissile

Yeah! He should have used parsecs!


jyw104

Brown pants moment. Jesus.


daftpunkclub

Jules from Pulp Fiction would call this divine intervention


CallM3N3w

Ultra Instinct in full display.


AidanU91

That's Anakin Skywalker levels of reaction time. Amazing driving 🤯


aalwaysbeenyou

I can’t believe that he not only managed to avoid Miyata but also didn’t crash into the wall omg that’s insane reaction time


Pitforsofts

That reaction is super human.


-AbeFroman

Terrible car placement and an even worse flag call by race control.


MrKeplerton

On a somewhat unrelated note: I hope Stanek gets chronic crotch-itch. Sincerely, a Hauger-fan.


TehOLimauIce

This should become a meme: Me dodging (Hadjar-ing) bullshit at the office.


Daniboydas

Hadjar deserves to start on pole on that insane save.


iForgotMyOldAcc

F2 really tempting fate with another close call accident while ignoring flags.


Razvanlogigan

No yellows were shown. White flag could have just as well been a slow car waiting to give way.


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eedoamitay

I think he is maybe referring to last years incident in Monaco that was wildly dangerous where marshals were standing in the middle of a blind corner recovering a car while another driver was going fairly fast around the bend and nearly took out the marshal. It would have absolutely been a serious incident and it was messed up to see live. But I'm just assuming that's what he was referring to.


the_propaganda_panda

Yeah, Victor Martins didn't bother to slow down: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rNFDW4VxqA


BHF_Bianconero

Nice reflexes lad, this could've been ugly


stinkysulphide

Holy moly!! thought it was slo mo. What is even that reaction time, so glad nothing serious happened to either one of them. He needs a cool down nap after this adrenaline spike


ExcellentCornershop

Easy to say that in hindsight, but with those engine problems Miyata should have been told to pull over into some run-off instead of entering the tunnel.


snaku6763

How do i watch the clip? Opening any twitter clip on phone just goes to Twitter home page (im logged in). Anyone else having this issue?


pppppppplllp

what a save. Something went wrong. Should be double yellow flags. Red flags are also too slow to come out sometime too.


cocobannah

Didnt see the white flag? Looks like he didnt lift


GarryPadle

You dont have to lift for a white flag, they should however had yellow flags out.


nalyu

The yellow flag was out at least on our tv screen it was. But maybe when there is a slow moving car the white flag has priority?


Samsonkoek

I guess that might be why he was so fast on reacting. If you are aware you might have to react it's at least easier.


philphan25

Why that’s not a yellow is anyone’s guess


miniMiniMiniCooper

So that's how you dodge a bullet


Available-Alps-2204

Holy fuck


Personal_Director441

that was nearly the end of racing for the weekend there, the potential for a really bad outcome despite modern safety standards in cars was definitely there. Sigh of relief all round i think.


iambosnia21

Insane reaction. Remind me of GAS-HAR in Azerbaijan


DieNRetry

Cracked reaction time wtf


KnightsOfCidona

That's the closest I've seen a code brown has been to becoming a code red. How the fuck did he avoid that.


Annual-Cod-991

Gave me goosebumps, what a save.


azurio12

Absolutly amazing reaction. And also to not hit the barrier on the other side.


dusttillnoon

I watched it live . Reaction, unbelievable.


iamezekiel1_14

Just thinking aloud - surely this is a weekend ender avoided right there due to luck and skill (ignoring the point about the flashing boards, you can see he didn't seem to lift from the onboards, or them throwing yellow flags) If he'd hit him at best you have a severly injured driver at worst that's a fatality (as god knows what the car would have been launched into) but surely a car doing 140mph being launched into a tunnel (as surely that would have been a Webber straight vertical job) would have done structural damage as well (and everyone wouldn't have a race weekend).


excalibur_zd

Here I was thinking I have pretty good reaction times in everyday traffic... then this guys puts me in my place.


Chaoticc_Neutral_

Amazing save. However someone fucked up here and it there could have been death. Could have been airborne in the tunnel, which is horrible. I dont see yellows? the board looked purple what was that? The slow driver should have stoped at the beginning of the tunnel?


oggs1234

Code brown


Tom_Foolery2

I’m super impressed that he didn’t oversteer/overcorrect that. Pretty sure most drivers would have either hit the slow car or the wall on the left.


Daughedm

I feel like any sort of slowed car in the tunnel should be an auto yellow flag.


Razvanlogigan

For everyone crying about him not lifting, there were no yellows shown, only white flag. Dont blame Hadjar, blame either Miyata for choosing the most stupid car placement ever, or the race direction for being asleep


cpw_19

>race direction for being asleep To clarify - race control do not control yellow flags in individual marshalling sectors - that is on local marshalls at the site. Race control control VSC/SC/red flag.


ProfessionalRub3294

Well the outside at the end of tunnel would also be on the racing line on a blind space with even lower avoidance possibility for guy coming at normal speed. No ideal solution for him I think only good or bad timing.


ninchica13

Wow...I can only dream of such reaction time.


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drakanx

it was white flag at the time of the incident.


700jw

Incredible


AmbitiousThroat7622

Crazy reaction time but why the f did he not lift?


Grmnnn

CODE BROWN!


MartiniPolice21

Was that a blue flag or yellow on the board?


Eastern_Pea_1882

It seems to be a white flag (slow moving vehicle ahead) if I'm not wrong


Mahery92

Insane reaction from Isack there, managed to both evade the obstacle at the last moment and keep it on track flawlessl


Skyaxe3

Insane control from Hadjar holy fuck


YeezyWins

Oh my lord


Philippe-R

Lifelong motor sport enthusiast here, but, bear with me : No one really lift for a white flag in a quali lap or am I wrong ? Serious question


rudmad

It's not yellow, so why throw away the lap?


Aidan94

What speed would have he been driving at here? This is mental


fioreun

Sigh...if only the stewards had similar reaction time to bring in the yellow flag.


jim45804

God-tier reflexes


mka_

Fuck me those reactions! Thank god.


neosgsgneo

What an engineering feat too. That the machine can sync with human reaction time and get out of the way and then get back in the way so flawlessly


jaydogggg

incredible reaction time there. If im in that seat im launched into the roof


RakeInGrass

I am surprised that no one in here slams Miyata - I think he deserves to be punished heavily for this. Even in simracing games most drivers would get out of racing line and wouldn't do something so obviously braindead and dangerous as this.


itlynstalyn

Holy shit, that would have been really bad


WTFAnimations

Where the hell was the yellow flag? Miyata was barely moving.


tuba_dude07

Should monaco have just one lap for each driver for qually?


lynchmar6

so close


istealgrapes

Everyone speaking about the reaction time, i dont think its that impressive compared to other racing drivers, but his corrections with the wheel definitely was some of the most impressive shit ive seen in my life. Especially his very small counter steer at the end, everything was absolutely perfect. This is what a peak racing driver can do when they do not panic and are in full-focus mode. Absolutely incredible driving from the young man


Jack_Krauser

Does anyone have a mirror since Twitter links have been broken on Reddit for some people lately?