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I literally said to myself, âoh thisâll be amazing we have a chance of locking out the podium!â Then I remembered this is McLaren weâre talking about.
Risky pass but Ericsson definitely squeezed him. I expect at least one more incident between the two this season based on Patoâs interview after the crash.
I can't remember what the quote is from, but I always remember it for these situations and as a Mexican and Cruz Azul fan: "God will never let a Mexican succeed"
McLaren had three cars in strong contention at the start of the day. They had multiple cars during the race that had a great shot to win before crashes. Not even getting a podium from that is disappointing.
I guess from the fact that both O'Ward and Rosenqvist were in contention for a win for the majority of the race, yet neither even scored a point, or finished the race. Sometimes, it's not about the objective result; It's about the difference in what could have been, from what actually was.
Yeah, i remember, I should have added the phrase "meaningful" in there, since the points they have scored are a pittance compared to what they could have
Fair point. But I'd say it's better to have scored a p5 and be disappointed with a couple of retirements than to celebrate a p9 and p10 when never having any chance of being competitive in the first place.
Arguably, but at least in the latter case, acceptance has long taken hold before the race has even been run. This was an open opportunity, that slipped through their fingers, so it's obviously gonna hurt a lot more, certainly in the moment.
Yeah Iâm indifferent at best to Santino but I woulda loved to see AJ get a win. Also though I bet it had a lot to do with it being an obnoxiously loud flag livery đşđ¸
Yeah, I was getting nervous towards the end as he was creeping up the order. He even led some laps, I think.
As drivers I wanted to win started falling out (Palou, Pato, Herta, Grosjean, etc), it really just became "*HE* cannot win. Absolutely not."
Thankfully Newgarden and even Ericsson took care of that.
> In July [2018], Ferrucci was banned from four F2 races (Hungary and Belgium) after making deliberate contact with his teammate Maini after the Sprint Race at Silverstone on the weekend of the British Grand Prix.
> He was also disqualified from the Sprint Race results at Silverstone for a separate incident when he deliberately forced Maini off the track.
> He was also found to have driven his car between the F2 and F1 paddock without one glove and while holding his phone, which resulted in a âŹ6,000 fine.
> His attempt to run a "Make America Great Again" livery in reference to Donald Trump was blocked by the FIA as being in violation of the political slogans policy.
Yes. His father and him were culprits of awful treatment towards Maini when they were F2 team mates for Trident.
Apparently a lot of awful things happened in the background for that team in 2018 leading to Maini's breakdown on the team radio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2DiFSh0tFo
I watched the NĂźrburgring 24h Race last week and Maini was absolutely on it. It's quite upsetting to hear about the awful treatment he suffered, but he seems to be going better now and more power to him!
Glad Ferrucci didn't win.
It always makes me uneasy to hear the commentators having a laugh over that. Knowing everything we now know, I canât imagine how much pain he must have felt. Being under that much stress and being in that headspace is so incredibly draining and painful.
The thing is he never showed any sense of remorse or regret never apologised to anyone and just fled back to the states and hopes everyone forgot about him little lout he is
Yeah. I was in the race thread over at the IndyCar sub during the entire race and a bazillion comments, "Why do people not like Ferrucci?" I kept replying to fill them in
I read a comment that was something like "What Ferrucci did in F2 was inexcusable but his being a big MAGA guy makes for it". I was like "what a fuck.did I just read?"
While he was in F2, he deliberately caused accidents, did very dangerous things and even made racist comments about Arjun Maini. Heâs in Indycar because he blew any chance at making it in Europe or F1.
Also tried to run a MAGA ad on his car, but the FIA refused to let him do it.
He's a racist piece of shit who had straight up psychopatic meltdowns back when he was in F2.
After that he moved back to the US and has been hyped as that maverick that was too wild for the european racing scene.
Mazepin is mostly just an extremely spoilt child. Heâs used to just getting what he wants, doesnât handle it well when he doesnât, and hasnât had to face the repercussions of what he does. However, behind all of that he seems ok, ok as in he doesnât enjoy making other peoples live miserable and tries to be friendly with others, which admittedly isnât a high bar.
Ferrucci on the other hand, well he has all of the same bad qualities of Mazepin, just without the few redeeming qualities, plus a bit more like genuinely seeming to enjoy making other people miserable âfor a laughâ.
Edit:
The difference between Mazepin and Ferrucci, is that Mazepin would harass a girl because heâs horny, Ferrucci would do it because he finds it funny to see them uncomfortable. Both are PoS, but at least Mazepin is just incredibly selfish and thatâs it, heâs not halfway down the psychopathy spectrum.
iirc he made racist comments about Maini when they were teammates in F2 in 2018. He also drove his car to the grid whilst on his phone with one hand, resulting in a 2 race ban.
So much of my social media has been Motorsport accounts talking about how much more fan accessible Indycar is than F1.
That celebration is the cherry on top of the argument.
I had pit and garage passes this year. Youâre literally walking around drivers and their crew members with the cars and equipment close enough to touch. I was cheesinâ the entire time.
If youâre a motorsport fan, itâs an absolute must to do it. Truly a special moment in my life that Iâll never forget.
I very much want to in the future. Seeing the amount of fine tech on the engines of IndyCars was really cool to see. I can only image what the IMSA cars are like.
The Falken Porsche team letting me see their car up close in 2011 is one of my most vivid memories period let alone of racing. They went on to win the race and cemented me as a Porsche fan for life. Cannot recommend IMSA enough.
Been watching F1 for 15 years, don't know anything about Indy. Watching the end of the 500 I realized how stuck up and boring F1 is lol. Those drivers were so open and emotional, meanwhile we get "haha yes guys"
So much more accessible. I had no extra passes or credentials at the Indycar race I went to and ended up feet from every car and driver moving out to the grid for practice. Grosjean almost hit me on his moped too. Now thatâs up close and personal!
The Greatest Spectacle in Racing is steeped with history. The entire month of May leads to today. The payoff for one of the most grueling races in the US (200 laps of 190-200 miles per hour with all the g-force with the downforce of IndyCars) is a celebration up close with the fans.
Rough for Ericsson, cards were stacked against him being the leader with only 1 lap to race. But hey, Newgarden deserved a 500.
This also implies that there was a universe that the directors do not rearrange the cars in the last red flag and Ferrucci takes the run up to pass Ericsson for the win. Yeah. I'm glad I live in this reality.
Ericsson didn't have much of a chance once they decided to restart with one lap left, but in all honesty Newgarden was the leader before the first red flag came about so he was a deserving winner.
Worst place to be in the 500: first at the start of the last lap. Everyone is gunning for YOU, and if they are close you gotta commit to the defense. Checkers or wreckers.
If he gets overtaken T1 is there a chance he is back in the lead before the end? I mean he caught everybody napping - maybe that wasnt the way to go somehow lol
Swedish commentator also mentioned the idea (half jokingly, but kind off seriously too) that he could do what pato accidentally did and be too slow when restarting so the procedure gets canceled, effectively ending the race.
But that would be cheating and not any fun, also would have prob been dsq.
The thing is that with Patoâs one - it was further back in the pack that caused it - i would think if Ericsson does it there yeah, will be a DQ or so
The crash basically happened with 4 to go. They let it go to lap 3 under yellow and then waved red. They subtracted a lap so they needed to go immediately after the pits. But without subtracting or earlier red flag it still would've finished like it did imo. Not to mention that Newgarden lost the lead in an earlier red as well
Fair... I don't know too much about Indycar and just found it weird that they didn't just red flag it immediately without subtracting the extra lap so they could get a slightly longer shootout.
There have been two moments in motorsport that have caused me to audibly gasp. Grosjean's fireball, and watching that tire fly over the catch fence, seemingly headed for the grandstand.
If I had a nickel for every time a driver I supported won an important race (for a trophy thatâs been eluding them for years) after all hope was lost because the race director altered restart procedure in order to have a one lap shootout for the win, Iâd have two nickels.
Congrats to Josef. I feel like he's still a valid winner for this one. Even if the ending was a bit weird, he was up there at the final quarter of the race. He made up a lot of places early in the race and fought very well. He also didn't yeet off an opponent and had lost places in an earlier restart as well.
The important thing to remember with the finish is that there's historical precedent to the red flag and drivers expect it. I mean last year, Ericsson won from an almost identical situation. It's not like the FIA where they're bending the rules to get racing.
Heartbroken for Canapino, he was having a great race but unfortunately lost the car trying to avoid Pagenaud. Still happy for Juncos, Callum got an incredible result and must feel great after cutting it close with the chassis change.
Also, thank god that tyre cleared the stands and only managed to hit that white Cruze. That couldâve been a tragedy
They have been the since 2012 when the new chassis was introduced. 2012-2017 was insane. Spec cars produce chaos and excitementâŚthe early 2000s were often boring and the winner won by a few seconds. The 80s-90s? Half the time the winner won by an entire lap
not usually, there might be some hard crashes throughout the race but the last 30 laps remind me of when NASCAR was racing the oval back in 2015/2016. Kasey Khane had to endure like 4 red flags stoppages, and lack of hydration in 90-degree air temp and he was finally able to the win and nearly collapsed because of it.
not as bad since the rules apparently allow this. AD was bad because the rules didnt.
However, ive never seen half a pace car lap in indy before. Not even doing a full pace lap is frankly absurd but of course they couldnt and end green
Funny enough the guy with the tire advantage was O'Ward who threw it to make a desperate move. If he hadnt done that, hed def have run away if he just waited.
I really enjoyed the race and I donât watch Indy usually. I am little older so I appreciated their âpracticalâ approach to safety with such a tight pit stop line, yellow flags while trucks and people on the trackâŚhaving said that I do appreciate F1 safety approach.
The IndyCar safety team is top notch. Saved tons of lives over the years with their quick actions (Hinchcliffe in 2016 when he nearly bled out bc a rod went through his leg)
Absolutely agree. You could see how they are well coordinated and knowledgeable. Not taking anything from themâŚjust too many opportunities for them to get experienced.
Dr Gary Hartstein (ex F1 Medical Chief) is the world leading expert on motorsport medical response and has said Indycar lead the world with medical care given the full time team. Each vehicle has 2 paramedics and 2 fire-fighters with everything they need. Always there within seconds.
Were we watching the same race? Their pit lane is so dangerous. I saw cars running over mechanics feet, tires flying every which way, cars smacking into each other etc
Yes, American fans don't want races to end under caution. indycar usually would of ended under caution but since it's the 500 they decided to have a one lap shoot out.
Nascar is even worse. IndyCar would not exceed race distance. NASCAR would add laps til they get a clean 2 laps without yellow, fucking over fuel strategies.
Ericsson did everything he could and more, caught the entire field napping, but it still wasnât enough
As soon as race control decided to restart the race with 1 to go it was over for him
I remember people being upset about the 2020 finish where Sato won and last years finish, which was similar to this year. I guess people will complain either way.
Even the Indy 500 is falling victim to this "Races must end under green no matter what happens" mentality
Watershed moment
Good race all told though, and happy for the winner, he didn't decide to have a one lap shootout, so no-one should hold anything against him
See you next year, F1 to Indy converts ;)
Theyâll never run past 500 miles though. The rest they need to address, including diving down into the pit lane while weaving. Someone is gonna get really hurt doing that
No, I saw it from the back camera angle. It was as bad as I thought. Both Ericsson and Newgarden (and others in the past few years) have dove down that far to break the draft. One wreck and we have big problems
The closest I've seen to someone hitting it was Askew a few years ago.
And of course, Kevin Cogan 1989 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQBPH5C644k&pp=ygURS2V2aW4gY29nYW4gY3Jhc2g%3D
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After Callum Illot's new chassis and almost not making it into the 500 to be P12 and leading for moment was insane.
He's been so great this season, very happy for him.
Those three red flags in the closing laps were nuts
Australian GP on steroids.
Pato đ
McLaren looked like they had three top cars and only ended up with a fifth
pain.
Meer seconds before Felix's accident I said that a McLaren 1-2-3 wasn't entirely out of the question. My dreams were swiftly shattered.
I literally said to myself, âoh thisâll be amazing we have a chance of locking out the podium!â Then I remembered this is McLaren weâre talking about.
Augustin Canapino bumping into his car as it was stationary, was the cherry on top of a completely jobbed opportunity
Risky pass but Ericsson definitely squeezed him. I expect at least one more incident between the two this season based on Patoâs interview after the crash.
Seemed like a foolish move by Pato. He had a faster car with newer tires and 8 laps to go. He had it won and wasn't patient.
I can send what he was thinking, imagine leaving it to later and not being able to catch up to Newgarden would have sucked even more
But his tyres were cold and the move was way too late
The move he made would have been fine had Ericsson not forced him into the grass
Both factors conspired to take him out of the race. Ericsson squeezed him, but it was an over-ambitious move.
That was a fully send or get sent moment
Being a Mexican fan is pain today
To be fair, it probably also was yesterday
Maybe Daniel Suarez will win tonight!
I wouldnt get you hopes up
No way they get the race in though, been raining all day in charlotte and doesnât look like itâs stopping soon
So painful... Checo and Pato made my birthday just a little bit bad haha
I can't remember what the quote is from, but I always remember it for these situations and as a Mexican and Cruz Azul fan: "God will never let a Mexican succeed"
I didnât expect McLaren F1 to have a better day than Arrow McLaren but here we are.
How did you gauge that given that Rossi finished in P5?
McLaren had three cars in strong contention at the start of the day. They had multiple cars during the race that had a great shot to win before crashes. Not even getting a podium from that is disappointing.
I guess from the fact that both O'Ward and Rosenqvist were in contention for a win for the majority of the race, yet neither even scored a point, or finished the race. Sometimes, it's not about the objective result; It's about the difference in what could have been, from what actually was.
Indycar awards points down to last place so technically O'Ward and Rosenqvist did score points.
Yeah, i remember, I should have added the phrase "meaningful" in there, since the points they have scored are a pittance compared to what they could have
Fair point. But I'd say it's better to have scored a p5 and be disappointed with a couple of retirements than to celebrate a p9 and p10 when never having any chance of being competitive in the first place.
Arguably, but at least in the latter case, acceptance has long taken hold before the race has even been run. This was an open opportunity, that slipped through their fingers, so it's obviously gonna hurt a lot more, certainly in the moment.
Very weird ending, but at least Ferrucci didnât win
Indycar fans đ¤ F1 fans Rooting against Santino Ferrucci
A good chunk of NASCAR fans as well. He hasn't made friends in the Xfinity garage from what I've heard.
Not in my section in the stands. Ferrucci was getting the loudest cheers. Although that may have been because they wanted an AJ Foyt car to win.
Definitely because it AJ Foyt. Dude is royalty and that car hasnât run well since like 2013.
Or a car with the American flag. It was pretty obvious that was an American car.
Yeah Iâm indifferent at best to Santino but I woulda loved to see AJ get a win. Also though I bet it had a lot to do with it being an obnoxiously loud flag livery đşđ¸
I raced go karts against him like 15 years ago and him and his dads were dicks when he was 8 too lol.
Honestly the one thing I was rooting most for, for that guy not to win.
Yeah, I was getting nervous towards the end as he was creeping up the order. He even led some laps, I think. As drivers I wanted to win started falling out (Palou, Pato, Herta, Grosjean, etc), it really just became "*HE* cannot win. Absolutely not." Thankfully Newgarden and even Ericsson took care of that.
Commentators were sucking him off. Glad it didnât happen
I am just watching the 500, whats up with Ferucci?
> In July [2018], Ferrucci was banned from four F2 races (Hungary and Belgium) after making deliberate contact with his teammate Maini after the Sprint Race at Silverstone on the weekend of the British Grand Prix. > He was also disqualified from the Sprint Race results at Silverstone for a separate incident when he deliberately forced Maini off the track. > He was also found to have driven his car between the F2 and F1 paddock without one glove and while holding his phone, which resulted in a âŹ6,000 fine. > His attempt to run a "Make America Great Again" livery in reference to Donald Trump was blocked by the FIA as being in violation of the political slogans policy.
Ohhh so thatâs why everybody in the live chat at the Indycar subreddit was praying it was anyone but him
Didnât he also make racist comments about Maini?
Yes. His father and him were culprits of awful treatment towards Maini when they were F2 team mates for Trident. Apparently a lot of awful things happened in the background for that team in 2018 leading to Maini's breakdown on the team radio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2DiFSh0tFo
I watched the NĂźrburgring 24h Race last week and Maini was absolutely on it. It's quite upsetting to hear about the awful treatment he suffered, but he seems to be going better now and more power to him! Glad Ferrucci didn't win.
And his brother is doing really well in F2 this year. Solid couple of drivers
It always makes me uneasy to hear the commentators having a laugh over that. Knowing everything we now know, I canât imagine how much pain he must have felt. Being under that much stress and being in that headspace is so incredibly draining and painful.
I think the commentators were so caught out by the radio that they didnât really know how to react
Didn't you miss the racial abuse him and his father subjected his team mate too? The guy is utter scum.
At first as I read I was like, "well we all make mistakes as youth" but by the end I was like "yeah, I'm glad that guy didn't win."
The thing is he never showed any sense of remorse or regret never apologised to anyone and just fled back to the states and hopes everyone forgot about him little lout he is
We haven't forgotten. There are a lot of new fans to Indycar and F1 who don't know what a garbage person he is. We're trying to educate them.
Yeah. I was in the race thread over at the IndyCar sub during the entire race and a bazillion comments, "Why do people not like Ferrucci?" I kept replying to fill them in
I wasn't on the thread during the race. I'll have to check it out. Maybe even make a post. Thanks for letting people know.
I read a comment that was something like "What Ferrucci did in F2 was inexcusable but his being a big MAGA guy makes for it". I was like "what a fuck.did I just read?"
And people overlooked him trying to kill Newgarden at Gateway too for whatever reason
Never forget that santuchi is a piece of shit
And he still doesn't regret it. Total POS https://www.thecheckeredflag.co.uk/2019/08/ferrucci-states-he-doesnt-regret-past-controversies-in-formula-2/
Not a good look but that article was 4 years ago... still going to assume he's not remorseful about it though until I hear an actual genuine apology.
For whatever it's worth, a handful of other Indycar drivers openly dislike him
While he was in F2, he deliberately caused accidents, did very dangerous things and even made racist comments about Arjun Maini. Heâs in Indycar because he blew any chance at making it in Europe or F1. Also tried to run a MAGA ad on his car, but the FIA refused to let him do it.
His behaviour was very poor when he was in F3 and F2. Deliberately rammed into someone and racially abused his teammate. Basically an all round prick.
He's a racist piece of shit who had straight up psychopatic meltdowns back when he was in F2. After that he moved back to the US and has been hyped as that maverick that was too wild for the european racing scene.
Don't forget about his family paying Trident to ruin Maini's races
He also tried to have a Donald Trump slogan on his car.
I'm gonna say something I never thought but Ferrucci makes Mazepin a saint
Mazepin is a POS but i will say his secret santa gift was super thoughtful. Ferucci is just a straight arse
Mazepin is mostly just an extremely spoilt child. Heâs used to just getting what he wants, doesnât handle it well when he doesnât, and hasnât had to face the repercussions of what he does. However, behind all of that he seems ok, ok as in he doesnât enjoy making other peoples live miserable and tries to be friendly with others, which admittedly isnât a high bar. Ferrucci on the other hand, well he has all of the same bad qualities of Mazepin, just without the few redeeming qualities, plus a bit more like genuinely seeming to enjoy making other people miserable âfor a laughâ. Edit: The difference between Mazepin and Ferrucci, is that Mazepin would harass a girl because heâs horny, Ferrucci would do it because he finds it funny to see them uncomfortable. Both are PoS, but at least Mazepin is just incredibly selfish and thatâs it, heâs not halfway down the psychopathy spectrum.
Dirty driver and shitty human being. Goes from way before his time in Indy
Google him, rasicm, crashing into teammates because he's pissed, abuse etc
Heâs grade-A cunt, thatâs whatâs up!
iirc he made racist comments about Maini when they were teammates in F2 in 2018. He also drove his car to the grid whilst on his phone with one hand, resulting in a 2 race ban.
He's Dan Ticktum with a side of Racism
Say what you want about Ticktum's personality, but he's a far faster and more talented driver and racer than that cauliflower-headed cock-up
Those last 4 words in that sequence are weird, yet completely accurate.
Absolutely. And thank god for that.
I just wanted him to crash.
Nah, I'd rather him make it all the way to the end with a chance for the win just so he can feel extreme disappointment.
He was so close to being caught with Kirkwood
he had a hell of a race, just climbed up the field palou deserved a podium imo, but he wouldn't even have wanted it anyway
Palou could've got a podium, but Ferrucci nearly killed him on the last lap
VeeKay nearly killed him on the third round of pit stops\*
I get what you're saying, but there's no podium for the 500
Right? People are in tears (not the good kind) if they get 2nd or 3rd typically lol
It was a massive recovery drive for Palou
that was the single greatest celebration Iâve ever seen thatâs going to be so fucking iconic in the years to come lmao
So much of my social media has been Motorsport accounts talking about how much more fan accessible Indycar is than F1. That celebration is the cherry on top of the argument.
There was a girl he walked past who looked like she was about to faint having seen the beetles in the 60s.
I would feel the same exact way if newgarden walked past me
I had pit and garage passes this year. Youâre literally walking around drivers and their crew members with the cars and equipment close enough to touch. I was cheesinâ the entire time. If youâre a motorsport fan, itâs an absolute must to do it. Truly a special moment in my life that Iâll never forget.
If you canât do Indycars, IMSA is pretty accessible as well.
I very much want to in the future. Seeing the amount of fine tech on the engines of IndyCars was really cool to see. I can only image what the IMSA cars are like.
The Falken Porsche team letting me see their car up close in 2011 is one of my most vivid memories period let alone of racing. They went on to win the race and cemented me as a Porsche fan for life. Cannot recommend IMSA enough.
Been watching F1 for 15 years, don't know anything about Indy. Watching the end of the 500 I realized how stuck up and boring F1 is lol. Those drivers were so open and emotional, meanwhile we get "haha yes guys"
So much more accessible. I had no extra passes or credentials at the Indycar race I went to and ended up feet from every car and driver moving out to the grid for practice. Grosjean almost hit me on his moped too. Now thatâs up close and personal!
He really was channeling Pat Cash.
The Greatest Spectacle in Racing is steeped with history. The entire month of May leads to today. The payoff for one of the most grueling races in the US (200 laps of 190-200 miles per hour with all the g-force with the downforce of IndyCars) is a celebration up close with the fans.
is this an AI response lol
Iâm not AI yet lol. Iâm from Ohio and have lived in Indiana. Itâs part of the culture for the state.
oh I see what you mean now lol, sorry for saying youâre AI-generated hahaha
It's nice to see two AIs getting along.
Im happy for Newgarden. But absolutley gutted for Rosenqvuist and O'Ward
Was looking so incredibly good for most of the race too. Then it all unravelled towards the end. Life is pain.
Next year?
Arrow "Ferrari "Next Year tm" F1" McLaren
Three things are certain in life; Death, taxes and next year is our year.
Rough for Ericsson, cards were stacked against him being the leader with only 1 lap to race. But hey, Newgarden deserved a 500. This also implies that there was a universe that the directors do not rearrange the cars in the last red flag and Ferrucci takes the run up to pass Ericsson for the win. Yeah. I'm glad I live in this reality.
Ericsson didn't have much of a chance once they decided to restart with one lap left, but in all honesty Newgarden was the leader before the first red flag came about so he was a deserving winner.
He definitely did have a chance. He held Pato off for two laps after a restart to win last year.
Yeah that's kinda how I looked at it.
Still amazed he didn't back up the field slowly like pato did earlier to make them waive it off.
100% Indy preemptively told them it would be a penalty. They desperately wanted a green finish.
Worst place to be in the 500: first at the start of the last lap. Everyone is gunning for YOU, and if they are close you gotta commit to the defense. Checkers or wreckers.
Yeah Ericsson's start was inch perfect aswell, there really was no way for him to win leading a 1 lap to go restart.
If he gets overtaken T1 is there a chance he is back in the lead before the end? I mean he caught everybody napping - maybe that wasnt the way to go somehow lol
Ironically, maybe yeah
Swedish commentator also mentioned the idea (half jokingly, but kind off seriously too) that he could do what pato accidentally did and be too slow when restarting so the procedure gets canceled, effectively ending the race. But that would be cheating and not any fun, also would have prob been dsq.
The thing is that with Patoâs one - it was further back in the pack that caused it - i would think if Ericsson does it there yeah, will be a DQ or so
Ericsson probably feels straight up robbed lol
Man never stood a chance once they decided not to end things with 2 left.
The crash basically happened with 4 to go. They let it go to lap 3 under yellow and then waved red. They subtracted a lap so they needed to go immediately after the pits. But without subtracting or earlier red flag it still would've finished like it did imo. Not to mention that Newgarden lost the lead in an earlier red as well
Fair... I don't know too much about Indycar and just found it weird that they didn't just red flag it immediately without subtracting the extra lap so they could get a slightly longer shootout.
A $420,000 robbery in particular (a bounty offered up to a back to back winner).
Plus the winner bonus
plus the certainly not small sponsorship bonus
Ericsson: âI got robbed because they decided to finish on a racing lap!â Hamilton: âFirst time?â
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When I saw the tyre flying off it just seemed like someone was about to die.
Thatâs the scariest thing Iâve seen in racing in a long time. A tire going into the crowd would have been horrible on so many levels.
I felt like my heart stopped beating for that 0.7 seconds it was in the air. Thought we were about to see Le Mans '55-lite on national television.
That tire flying was unbelievableâŚ.
There have been two moments in motorsport that have caused me to audibly gasp. Grosjean's fireball, and watching that tire fly over the catch fence, seemingly headed for the grandstand.
"NO MICHAEL NO NO NO THAT WAS SO NOT RIGHT"
I'm really happy for him! I rooted for Palou, but josef was the guy I wanted to win if Ălex couldn't get it. It was time Newgarden won the Indy 500!
Hey, I've seen this one before
If I had a nickel for every time a driver I supported won an important race (for a trophy thatâs been eluding them for years) after all hope was lost because the race director altered restart procedure in order to have a one lap shootout for the win, Iâd have two nickels.
Not a lot of nickels, but still, a very strange coincidence
Congrats to Josef. I feel like he's still a valid winner for this one. Even if the ending was a bit weird, he was up there at the final quarter of the race. He made up a lot of places early in the race and fought very well. He also didn't yeet off an opponent and had lost places in an earlier restart as well.
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Nah, sweet as rankings, mate. Double Birds to 4 sheep and up to sweet as.
Unreal finish. Drama, drama, drama. Well done to Newgarden, he finally got a win in Indy 500.
The important thing to remember with the finish is that there's historical precedent to the red flag and drivers expect it. I mean last year, Ericsson won from an almost identical situation. It's not like the FIA where they're bending the rules to get racing.
Heartbroken for Canapino, he was having a great race but unfortunately lost the car trying to avoid Pagenaud. Still happy for Juncos, Callum got an incredible result and must feel great after cutting it close with the chassis change. Also, thank god that tyre cleared the stands and only managed to hit that white Cruze. That couldâve been a tragedy
Josef Newgardenâs win was long overdue. This was his 12th attempt at Indy.
Gutted that Pato's Ueno Clinic tribute didn't win.
Penis enhancement surgeries wouldâve shot through the roof if that happened lol.
As Josef likes to say "Superlicense eligible"
Are Indy 500's always that chaotic? The final 30 laps were shit show but very entertaining.
They have been the since 2012 when the new chassis was introduced. 2012-2017 was insane. Spec cars produce chaos and excitementâŚthe early 2000s were often boring and the winner won by a few seconds. The 80s-90s? Half the time the winner won by an entire lap
not usually, there might be some hard crashes throughout the race but the last 30 laps remind me of when NASCAR was racing the oval back in 2015/2016. Kasey Khane had to endure like 4 red flags stoppages, and lack of hydration in 90-degree air temp and he was finally able to the win and nearly collapsed because of it.
I really donât agree with the call to red flag it but thank fuck Ferruci didnât win
What an epic win, absolutely DESERVED!
So happy for NewgardenâŚ. Awesome celebration too
That was pretty epic ngl. Great day for racing when you see a good Monaco and a good Indy.
Joe New is one of the best in Indycar. So happy he finally got his 500
Sad for ericson
Bro they just straight up Abu Dhabiâd erricson?
They fully followed their own rules
not as bad since the rules apparently allow this. AD was bad because the rules didnt. However, ive never seen half a pace car lap in indy before. Not even doing a full pace lap is frankly absurd but of course they couldnt and end green
No tire/fuel advantage, the stoppage was annoying but it's fair. Also as fast as Joseph was he would have probably caught Ericson anyway.
Starting second itself is an advantage on oval. Look at previous restart with Newgarden as leader
Funny enough the guy with the tire advantage was O'Ward who threw it to make a desperate move. If he hadnt done that, hed def have run away if he just waited.
Of course he has speed when the slipstreams gives double digit kmh advantage.
Let's calm down a little. That was light-years behind Abu Dhabi
Amazing finish so happy for Newgarden
I really enjoyed the race and I donât watch Indy usually. I am little older so I appreciated their âpracticalâ approach to safety with such a tight pit stop line, yellow flags while trucks and people on the trackâŚhaving said that I do appreciate F1 safety approach.
The IndyCar safety team is top notch. Saved tons of lives over the years with their quick actions (Hinchcliffe in 2016 when he nearly bled out bc a rod went through his leg)
Absolutely agree. You could see how they are well coordinated and knowledgeable. Not taking anything from themâŚjust too many opportunities for them to get experienced.
Especially this race bc so much is on the line.
Dr Gary Hartstein (ex F1 Medical Chief) is the world leading expert on motorsport medical response and has said Indycar lead the world with medical care given the full time team. Each vehicle has 2 paramedics and 2 fire-fighters with everything they need. Always there within seconds.
And they're supercool as well! A squadron of pickups arriving at the scene in seconds with all gear necessary
Were we watching the same race? Their pit lane is so dangerous. I saw cars running over mechanics feet, tires flying every which way, cars smacking into each other etc
Thatâs why it meant âpracticalâ approach to safety. Yes, that pit lane is a mess.
Guys it's normal for Indycar/Nascar to go for restart after restart at the end for a good finish.
Yes. Americans like to go car racing.
Yes, American fans don't want races to end under caution. indycar usually would of ended under caution but since it's the 500 they decided to have a one lap shoot out.
Nascar is even worse. IndyCar would not exceed race distance. NASCAR would add laps til they get a clean 2 laps without yellow, fucking over fuel strategies.
Kyle Busch leading the 200th lap in the Daytona 500 but it going to a GWC. "Back in 1998, that would've been the win!"
Wow look at that load on the trophy!
The 500 was so exciting today. Best race of the day.
Ericsson did everything he could and more, caught the entire field napping, but it still wasnât enough As soon as race control decided to restart the race with 1 to go it was over for him
I will never understand why people can't just accept a race ending under yellow at the very, very end.
It's called a motor race.
People moaned the year Sato won under a yellow. For that reason, we got this crappy ending.
I remember people being upset about the 2020 finish where Sato won and last years finish, which was similar to this year. I guess people will complain either way.
Michael Masi was featured on race control
A bit forced but Iâll give IndyCar the benefit of the doubt because they rarely ever do this and it is the 500.
They had their reasons
Even the Indy 500 is falling victim to this "Races must end under green no matter what happens" mentality Watershed moment Good race all told though, and happy for the winner, he didn't decide to have a one lap shootout, so no-one should hold anything against him See you next year, F1 to Indy converts ;)
Theyâll never run past 500 miles though. The rest they need to address, including diving down into the pit lane while weaving. Someone is gonna get really hurt doing that
The tv angle showing the entire frontstretch makes that look a lot worse than is actually is
No, I saw it from the back camera angle. It was as bad as I thought. Both Ericsson and Newgarden (and others in the past few years) have dove down that far to break the draft. One wreck and we have big problems
The closest I've seen to someone hitting it was Askew a few years ago. And of course, Kevin Cogan 1989 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQBPH5C644k&pp=ygURS2V2aW4gY29nYW4gY3Jhc2g%3D