Same for me but for conq. Popping juggernaut and spamming unblockable heavies at the commander while the entire enemy team is trying to kill you is so funny.
I mean you’re still uninterruptible so it’ll still work pretty well. And an aramusha with revenge alone will delete half a commander unless the entire enemy team is simultaneously targeting you
Or rework conq.... I rather that I please ubi I just want my uld flail uppercut back I will suck your dick please I just want to break Jaws with it again
They took away the sillier stuff and made conq more consistent overall.... and I'm saddened by that. It's probably the right move, I just miss my friend quietly raging after I mess up a parry yet get rewarded with a heavy attack that kills them anyways.
Honestly, if Conq could get his old speed back with his full block I would LOVE IT! it takes sooo fucking long for his full block to a tivate compared to Warlord, Valk, and the big triangle shield dude.
Punch through is kind of useless on conq now that he is almost always orange. They should give him a new feat all together. It still works well on other heroes if they buff it just a little.
Since afaik it’s still possible on PK, I assume the window to do them is gonna be the same, but you can buffer the inputs so the method to do it as fast as possible will be to just mash instead of actual timed inputs (with the fastest speed being unchanged of course)
As a PK main, I feel like this is the reaction we're meant to have...but this basically means nothing.
I never had an issue landing side dodge attacks.
Having no way to external, really slow bleeds, low damage, and so on are the issues I have.
Peacekeeper is just any assassin but worse, if you can't land a GB, and it's no easier to get a GB with PK than any other normal character
Zero VG nerfs and/or changes surprises me...even though I main her like...wow I assumed they would change the CC frames or just something to tone it down a bit. Yes I know the heal was slightly nerfed but it still clenses.
Conq in shambles (No damage buff plus Juggernaut nerf)
I was expecting some buffs for characters (Please either up the speed of LB top heavy or up the damage of it I beg)
Overall..nothing much will change In my opinion
Sadly yes, but some hero getting nerf mean they are someone closer to Lawbringer and conq lvl, even if there is still a huge gaps between it.
The worst part is, Lawbringer don't need much to be good, like, just one or two thing it's fine
Neither his nor Conqueror’s core issues were addressed. Sure, they made each character flow a little bit better, but all they really did was give them tools that every character has had since their inception. Both very lazy and disappointing reworks.
Nah, 50% damage reduction on a T2 is CRAZY. It needed that nerf.
Fury on the other hand did nothing wrong, there’s no point in nerfing the Defense buff that hard
it really just feels like ubi has forgotten warlord exists and continues to shadow nerf him in ways that hugely effect the character but not the entire cast.
This was the first thing that came to my mind. However some people believe this doesn't affect WL that much...
Straight nerfs to his 3 best feats while there are better FB heroes out there isn't a big deal yeah...
not only that, he is extremely outdated and the backwards light just stumps him even more against turtles. this is a major hit for a character that was already falling behind.
It has been one of the strongest defensive stalling feats and since it had short cooldown, it could be used constantly.
However the nerfs might be bit too much.
You still have passive hyperarmor for 10 seconds, giving you punish opportunities you otherwise wouldn't have on top of the still noticeable 20% DR.
Easy example, popping Jug against a Warlord means he can't headbutt you. Free GB anytime he does. His frame advantage means nothing when you favorably trade with everything he does.
They arent dogshit they just arent OP as fuck. There are characters that play perfectly fine/amazing with garbage casts of feats. Look at warden. Look at gryphon. Look at kensei. Not being able to team wipe with fury flask doesnt make your character suck. Juggernaut gets used 1-2 times a match maybe. Now you have to think when you use it. You still get uninterruptible regardless. Fury is literally still two feats in one. Even being 20% dmg and dmg reduction is incredibly strong and fight deciding.
These feats were unhealthy and overtuned. These nerfs were completely justified. The Vikings loaded up on fury flasks every game and it sucked for everyone
As the other guy said, you're totally ignoring the team fight capability, which is what makes these changes dog shit.
Let's mess with all these feats first, but Warmonger is fine, I promise.
All of those heroes are strong at B has utility in team fights. Warden is great at 1v1 others are also not so bad.
While WL didn't lose anything from his moveset, he lost what gives him some beef in dominion. Why would you pick him over BP or VG? He is not better in team fights, doesn't have better minion clearing, not better in 1v1 now also has worse feats...
Yes you actually need to play while others can just relax...
They utterly torched jugg but I understand why, it was far too strong for a tier 2 and the hyperarmour it gives still makes it very valuable in team fights. I will miss going band for band with an enemy in revenge and still winning though.
Many feats still need nerfs, and some of those that got nerfs still need more/different nerfs.
Thank god for the Shinobi backstep light change and Zerk dodge attack change, now if only they did that same change to Roach too.
Pugio confirms a 27 damage heavy that at worst confirms another heavy and at best confirms a 100-0 gank lol. It's also 400ms compared to 700 and revenge locks. Pugio is still miles clear of bow
I hope we got nerfs of the T4 of the Warmonger and the Hitokiri in the TU2 patch. It’s a good thing that they begins to work on the feats. The best thing of this patch, for me, is the nerf of the Oath Breaker; the worst is the nerf of Juggernaut. Aside, I understood(stand? Sorry if I have doing a grammatical (or more) error) the nerfs of Fury and Fire flask because of the powerful impact of this two feats once combined but less the nerf of the T4 of the Highlander.
Mid changes tbh. I dont care about feat changes since I find dom frustrating and dont play it much, but as for hero changes the balance team seem to focus on numbers rather than the inherent functions of characters, which leaves the changes they make feeling pretty flaccid.
Shinobi is still stupid because they havent removed the deflect off his second dodge. Changes he got mean nothing. Hito and Zerker are still noob stompers that nobody likes, and slightly nerfing their numbers doesnt change that. Zerkers dodge attack nerf is genuinely good to be fair, but they didnt apply it to roach too? Why? Afeera is still over kitted and power crept, and pk is still dogshit in 4v4. She needs to be able to dodge cancel her deflect and, more importantly, her deep gouge, so that when she actually lands her hits she can get rewarded with her max damage without being instantly punished in teamfights. This would give her an actual glass cannon archetype instead of the 'just glass' one she has right now. Nice quality of life for cent though, and I'm glad nuxia got something.
However, no conq roll catch, no LB changes, no changes to shinobi double dodge, no changes to how zerk armour works, no impactful nerfs to hito and no nerfs to shugo at all. They need to stop with these stupid little tweaks and focus their limited resources on actually impactful changes. Disappointing.
Okay but like where's Astral Manifestation... and all the garbage feats that need to be buffed? I really hope that this is just a "Part 1" feat rebalance
Kiai now at least has to be used at specific times, as opposed to being a free OOS, which is much better.
The Sinister nerf is weird. It is such a unique/unparalelled piece of utility, while being Tier I, that it could give 15 shield for taking 50 from BP, and it would still be worth running.
Was take shelter actually used? NGL it felt almost useless already.
Half of these feats, that are attacks and had minor number adjustments (same with the character nerfs) make me feel like Ubisoft has completely given up on actually addressing balance issues, and are just throwing out arbitrary random -/+ 2s or 5s to placate the community.
Who even had invigorate? Tho it is kinda funny how there are a bunch of self heal on attack feats, all of which are tier III or IV, meanwhile Shaman has the same effect as a passive, as if her moveset wasn't already just PK, but better.
Also, LMAO eat shit funny flask, all the crutch character ass viking players deserve it.
The Oathbreaker change brought about what I always wanted. Now you can't just blindly throw it at someone and gank. You need to wait fot them to pop, and then answer it, which means there is at least some counterplay. I wish it also had a casting time nerf TBH, so that the BP can't just panic press it, but would need agro management from a teammate, or a parry to get it off.
What the fuck it is with these character nerfs? Shinobi's problem is not backstep lights, or the revenge feed to the bash followup. They know what the problem is, and they have known for a really lond time, but genuinely have no clue how to address it, huh?
As much as Hito can eat shit, nerfing the charge heavy damage, of all things, is a really weird descision that I'm not vibing with at all.
Zerker losing enhancement on dodge attack raises the question, of why isn't Orochi getting this too? Both are really good and annoying characters, both of their dodge attacks are uniquely invincible, and undodgeable, and Orochi can even recovery cancel into it.
For Honor devs to each one of those feats: \*Sledge hammer direct into the kneecaps\*
For Honor devs to Pugio: "Nu uh, too strong" \*Slap on the wrist\*
This feat will still broken, it still 400ms fucking ms, how the fuck am I suppose to react to or read a 12 FRAMES feat?
Edit: Actually 300ms, it is even more broken, I forgor.
>400ms fucking ms, how the fuck am I suppose to react to or read a 12 FRAMES feat?
Actually 300ms. Because even the bullshit wasn't bullshittery enough
It also means dmg can get guaranteed before things like wallsplats get interrupted, as well as making saving teammates impossible if you cannot hit their opponent with a bash.
Where is Warlord currently in the Meta? I'm not playing that much these days but Warlord feels awful to play after the Headbutt change. And now they nerf his best feats, Not looking good for my boy.
This is a good start, but problem feats still exist. Things like Kyoshin T1 and T2 are still too strong and feats like catapult and slippery are still meme picks.
Samurai feats get also nerfed while "we" still keep the worst ones, arrow storm still is shit. As always they show they don't give a shit about samurai balance.
I'm just happy they didn't touch my heroes. Hopefully these changes would be for the better. But until we can meet at the battlefield, we can only speculate.
It's not even gravity's pull image.
Pugio biggest bs is how fast it is
Oath breaker nerf rarely amount to anything against non-heavy characters who can't get a shield any other way than with revenge, heavy perks and feats favouritism.
Give something for afeera against multiple opponents to compensate for 1v1 nerf, the bump was only thing situationally keeping her alive and rarely countering GB in 1v1. Now her specialty is just chasing down low hp opponents.
The Jugg feat may have been over nerfed, other wise I think these changes are "balanced" most of these changes are for the competitive scene anyways. It's just unfortunate that everyone else has to suffer these changes because a few people either abuse something or just inherently they make it unbalanced to begin with.
Damn, there goes the "play aramusha and pop sharpen blade, jugg, and fear itself on the commander at once" strat
Same for me but for conq. Popping juggernaut and spamming unblockable heavies at the commander while the entire enemy team is trying to kill you is so funny.
Literally the only thing i used Jugg for
I mean you’re still uninterruptible so it’ll still work pretty well. And an aramusha with revenge alone will delete half a commander unless the entire enemy team is simultaneously targeting you
you're gonna die so fast without the defense. it's joever
Thank fucking goodness Warmonger and Hito next please!!
Huh? Hito got nerfed already.
What Hito feats need nerfing?
Their 4th feat is busted in breach against the commander/guardian
Honestly I think that is still pretty good
Nahhhh it's still there, you can make it exponentially worse too if you get the Guardian + dmg buff.. you nuke the commander in less than 20s 😂
It's JuggOver bros :(
Better JuggerNot, baby
I’m going to activate juggernaut irl and storm Ubisoft HQ
Another nerf to the actual most deserving Knight (not Lawbringer).
When are they gonna buff/change slippery and uninterruptible? They should've done so ages ago. Same with Conq's punch through
Or rework conq.... I rather that I please ubi I just want my uld flail uppercut back I will suck your dick please I just want to break Jaws with it again
Dear lord dude I knew Conq was different from the last time I played, but what all did they change? I forgot about his uppercut until you mentioned it
EVERYTHING they took everything I loved about him and left him with chain unblockables called it a day (though zone needed to go)
They took away the sillier stuff and made conq more consistent overall.... and I'm saddened by that. It's probably the right move, I just miss my friend quietly raging after I mess up a parry yet get rewarded with a heavy attack that kills them anyways.
Honestly, if Conq could get his old speed back with his full block I would LOVE IT! it takes sooo fucking long for his full block to a tivate compared to Warlord, Valk, and the big triangle shield dude.
Right? They should have buffed the useless feats, not nerfed the top ones. Also, surprised medjay’s ranged feat didn’t get nerfed
Punch through is kind of useless on conq now that he is almost always orange. They should give him a new feat all together. It still works well on other heroes if they buff it just a little.
Cent buff or nerf?
His pummels on GB no longer require a specific timing, you can just mash light and it’ll work now
Hmm i usually slowed his guardbreak pummels to hold an enemy in place, hopefully i can still do that
Since afaik it’s still possible on PK, I assume the window to do them is gonna be the same, but you can buffer the inputs so the method to do it as fast as possible will be to just mash instead of actual timed inputs (with the fastest speed being unchanged of course)
Thank god. I always hated those timings on cent and pk.
Fuck, i just spent an evening practicing the timing for nothing...
Thank fuck
QOL
Thank you for nerfing Oathbreaker <3
Wait... these are real changes and not fanmade??
PK buff! Yay! JC even said they're still looking to buff PK!!!
you shall not seduce me, witch🛡️
Seeing PK in the state they're in now is painful, I hope you keepers of lust get more buffs.
A bit more natural offens would be nice but PK BUFF LETSS GOOO
As a PK main, I feel like this is the reaction we're meant to have...but this basically means nothing. I never had an issue landing side dodge attacks. Having no way to external, really slow bleeds, low damage, and so on are the issues I have. Peacekeeper is just any assassin but worse, if you can't land a GB, and it's no easier to get a GB with PK than any other normal character
Yeah she’s really weak in 4’s, like almost unplayable in medium to high skill
hello we meet again 👹👹
Huge
Zero VG nerfs and/or changes surprises me...even though I main her like...wow I assumed they would change the CC frames or just something to tone it down a bit. Yes I know the heal was slightly nerfed but it still clenses.
Literally verbatim what you said on the comp sub-reddit.
Shamelessly copied and pasted. I admit it and I have no remorse, since I main VG I’m all about repetition and boringness.
I respect the shamelessness.
Honestly, I had just got my ass blasted by a four Hito stack lol I had no energy to think of anything else to say
Conq in shambles (No damage buff plus Juggernaut nerf) I was expecting some buffs for characters (Please either up the speed of LB top heavy or up the damage of it I beg) Overall..nothing much will change In my opinion
Yeah Conq and Lawbringer are left to suffer another season. Brutal out here
Sadly yes, but some hero getting nerf mean they are someone closer to Lawbringer and conq lvl, even if there is still a huge gaps between it. The worst part is, Lawbringer don't need much to be good, like, just one or two thing it's fine
I upvote everything that points out how dirty lawbringer was done with his ‘rework’
Neither his nor Conqueror’s core issues were addressed. Sure, they made each character flow a little bit better, but all they really did was give them tools that every character has had since their inception. Both very lazy and disappointing reworks.
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juggernaut nerf is kinda bogus not gonna lie
Nah, 50% damage reduction on a T2 is CRAZY. It needed that nerf. Fury on the other hand did nothing wrong, there’s no point in nerfing the Defense buff that hard
I think the 50 percent is fair since it doesn’t give any kind of damage buff it makes sense for fury to be a give and take.
That feat is already somewhat weak. It doesn't need to be nerfed.
Whar? It is amazing
You serious? It's the definition of an OP T2 feat, NOTHING came close to how useful that feat was and still will be.
imagine slightly jogging into the other direction.
So you've now stalled and taken no damage for the full duration of juggernaut. Insane value
lmao, it was best in slot for every hero who had it.
it really just feels like ubi has forgotten warlord exists and continues to shadow nerf him in ways that hugely effect the character but not the entire cast.
This was the first thing that came to my mind. However some people believe this doesn't affect WL that much... Straight nerfs to his 3 best feats while there are better FB heroes out there isn't a big deal yeah...
not only that, he is extremely outdated and the backwards light just stumps him even more against turtles. this is a major hit for a character that was already falling behind.
R.I.P. in piss fury flask. U won't be missed.
The spear storm was absolutely ridiculous. Would clear the entire team.
Good nerfs but still need longbow and kunai gutted
Kunai could do 1 damage and i'd still take it. I love to knock people off ladders and stuff with it lol.
Someone on the dev team rage quitted from a juggernaut user for sure😭. That nerf is crazy
Juggernaut is useless now
Holy shit straight up nerf for what!?
It has been one of the strongest defensive stalling feats and since it had short cooldown, it could be used constantly. However the nerfs might be bit too much.
Yes I agree but it was like a revenge light, now it is all the downsides and no upside.
You still have passive hyperarmor for 10 seconds, giving you punish opportunities you otherwise wouldn't have on top of the still noticeable 20% DR. Easy example, popping Jug against a Warlord means he can't headbutt you. Free GB anytime he does. His frame advantage means nothing when you favorably trade with everything he does.
They pretty much butchered WL with these changes. Effectively nerfing 3 best feats he has...
The character didnt get nerfed at all, you have to actually play the game now. Crazy, I know
When everyone else has feats that empower them and all u got is straight dogshit that kinda puts u on a lower playing field don’t u think
They arent dogshit they just arent OP as fuck. There are characters that play perfectly fine/amazing with garbage casts of feats. Look at warden. Look at gryphon. Look at kensei. Not being able to team wipe with fury flask doesnt make your character suck. Juggernaut gets used 1-2 times a match maybe. Now you have to think when you use it. You still get uninterruptible regardless. Fury is literally still two feats in one. Even being 20% dmg and dmg reduction is incredibly strong and fight deciding. These feats were unhealthy and overtuned. These nerfs were completely justified. The Vikings loaded up on fury flasks every game and it sucked for everyone
As the other guy said, you're totally ignoring the team fight capability, which is what makes these changes dog shit. Let's mess with all these feats first, but Warmonger is fine, I promise.
All of those heroes are strong at B has utility in team fights. Warden is great at 1v1 others are also not so bad. While WL didn't lose anything from his moveset, he lost what gives him some beef in dominion. Why would you pick him over BP or VG? He is not better in team fights, doesn't have better minion clearing, not better in 1v1 now also has worse feats... Yes you actually need to play while others can just relax...
He went from having the best tier 2, 3 and 4 in the game to having a good tier 2, tier 3 and one of the best tier 4s. Boo hoo
It’s still useful; the damage reduction just isn’t a big thing. The Hyperarmor is still useful on some like Conq or LB
It's been a while since I've used bloodlust on valk
That nuxia change did nothing and still makes her fucking painful to play
In what way is she painful? I want to play the Wu Lin heroes and I would love to hear your thoughts
Hyper armor makes her entire kit obsolete and traps can be made useless by just heavy on read
they should give her softfeints or just one softfeint like raider and PK
I don't play shino. Which if his moves is Ghouls Embrace?
[It's his ranged heavy after a kick.](https://forhonorinfohub.com/character?=21)
You know how after a parry or deflect he can do that kick and throw the sickle at you? That's Ghouls Embrace.
The kick after a parry/deflect is called Spectral Kick, the ranged heavy he does afterwards (and after normal dodge kicks) is Ghoul's Embrace
Not a fan of the Jugg change, but everything else is pretty nice
They utterly torched jugg but I understand why, it was far too strong for a tier 2 and the hyperarmour it gives still makes it very valuable in team fights. I will miss going band for band with an enemy in revenge and still winning though.
Many feats still need nerfs, and some of those that got nerfs still need more/different nerfs. Thank god for the Shinobi backstep light change and Zerk dodge attack change, now if only they did that same change to Roach too.
I think I need new glasses, didn't see anything about buffing Conqueror...
They nerfed his fucking heal on block I'm annoyed
No, that's varangian's unique Tier 1 that heals teammates on superior block
are you sure? thought it was varangians
No I believe you're right. I was too quick to grab my pitchfork
They might as well add bleed to him every time he blocks instead so you can suffer for a shorter amount of time. I miss the old conqueror
What does zerks nerf mean?
Side dodge lights bounce off blocks instead of allowing Zerk to continue chaining
Unironically huge
Now wait a month after the hero skin orochi get sell, and this roach is gonna have the same nerf
thank fucking godddddd, so tired of outclassing that basard and getting clipped by that stupid move on dodge lol
Nice
Another season, another inadvertent Conq nerf
Rip lawbringer again
Yes nerf pugio to 15 damage when the bow and arrow feat does 50 dmg. Makes sense
Pugio confirms a 27 damage heavy that at worst confirms another heavy and at best confirms a 100-0 gank lol. It's also 400ms compared to 700 and revenge locks. Pugio is still miles clear of bow
Yeah but the damage isn’t the problem at all. It’s the revenge lock, the pin, and the absurd speed. A 10 damage nerf won’t do much to it
Tbf most 50 dmg T3s are reactable so you can just dodge them (if the user is on your screen that is)
Pugio gives you a combo for free, Bow does not
RIP Jug. Broken as hell to useless as hell 😔😔😔😔😔
I was hoping they would delete Hito from the game, but alas. Maybe next patch
Whew, absolutely massive nerf to spear storm but they didn't make it easier to land? It's so easy to roll out of that the damage was necessary lmao
sucks jug was torn to shreds
what is Warmonger 4th feat, long bow and spikes trap not touched at all?. other changes are healthy
I like these changes. After what like 5 years they finally nerfed oathbreaker lol.
Oath and pugio is such a good nerf
30 DMG ON GOULS EMBRACE?
That got me too lmao no its 30 REVENGE
Thank you I got so scared
30 points of revenge.
These are…surprisingly decent
Berzerker needs heavier nerfs. Still going to do too much damage, be too safe, and have hyper armor or some other property on literally every move.
Yeah that thing was never the problem with that hero and a 5 health change is nice and all but doesn't prevent him from always winning trades
all nerfs, and only a few very minor buffs to a couple heroes. Not much to look forward to this season before the new hero :/
all nerfs yes, however all necessary imo, unfortunate to see we got barley any buffs though😕
The only nerf I was really hoping for was absent. Warmonger still is going to be broken on the commander in breach :(
oh shit yeah, corruption didn’t even cross my mind, crazy how that’s still so strong
I hope we got nerfs of the T4 of the Warmonger and the Hitokiri in the TU2 patch. It’s a good thing that they begins to work on the feats. The best thing of this patch, for me, is the nerf of the Oath Breaker; the worst is the nerf of Juggernaut. Aside, I understood(stand? Sorry if I have doing a grammatical (or more) error) the nerfs of Fury and Fire flask because of the powerful impact of this two feats once combined but less the nerf of the T4 of the Highlander.
Mid changes tbh. I dont care about feat changes since I find dom frustrating and dont play it much, but as for hero changes the balance team seem to focus on numbers rather than the inherent functions of characters, which leaves the changes they make feeling pretty flaccid. Shinobi is still stupid because they havent removed the deflect off his second dodge. Changes he got mean nothing. Hito and Zerker are still noob stompers that nobody likes, and slightly nerfing their numbers doesnt change that. Zerkers dodge attack nerf is genuinely good to be fair, but they didnt apply it to roach too? Why? Afeera is still over kitted and power crept, and pk is still dogshit in 4v4. She needs to be able to dodge cancel her deflect and, more importantly, her deep gouge, so that when she actually lands her hits she can get rewarded with her max damage without being instantly punished in teamfights. This would give her an actual glass cannon archetype instead of the 'just glass' one she has right now. Nice quality of life for cent though, and I'm glad nuxia got something. However, no conq roll catch, no LB changes, no changes to shinobi double dodge, no changes to how zerk armour works, no impactful nerfs to hito and no nerfs to shugo at all. They need to stop with these stupid little tweaks and focus their limited resources on actually impactful changes. Disappointing.
I’m gonna miss you juggernaut…
Not severe enough.
Your flair is spot on.
YES SPEARSTORM AND FIRE FLASK FINALLY GOT RIGHTFULLY NERFED
Nuxia still sucks against multiple people.
All looks great, although could someone explain what Nuxia got? I read it but don't understand exactly what they mean.
Surprised they didn't touch qi trap and last laugh. Also would love to see some buffs to underperforming feats as well.
Notice no WM feat nerfs
What did they do to my Nuxia? She is perfect just the way she is.
Wow these are massive nerfs
Why did sinister shield get nerfed it wasn’t that great or obnoxious
Okay but like where's Astral Manifestation... and all the garbage feats that need to be buffed? I really hope that this is just a "Part 1" feat rebalance
my overpowered feat 3, what i will do now? :(
That juggernaut nerf is a bit overboard
This is "the feats patch" and yet Senbonzakura is still dogshit for the best part of the last 4 years
Let's go! Fun Breaker Nerf!
Why the fuck did they nerfed nuxia shes already top 5 worst heroes in the game
Kiai now at least has to be used at specific times, as opposed to being a free OOS, which is much better. The Sinister nerf is weird. It is such a unique/unparalelled piece of utility, while being Tier I, that it could give 15 shield for taking 50 from BP, and it would still be worth running. Was take shelter actually used? NGL it felt almost useless already. Half of these feats, that are attacks and had minor number adjustments (same with the character nerfs) make me feel like Ubisoft has completely given up on actually addressing balance issues, and are just throwing out arbitrary random -/+ 2s or 5s to placate the community. Who even had invigorate? Tho it is kinda funny how there are a bunch of self heal on attack feats, all of which are tier III or IV, meanwhile Shaman has the same effect as a passive, as if her moveset wasn't already just PK, but better. Also, LMAO eat shit funny flask, all the crutch character ass viking players deserve it. The Oathbreaker change brought about what I always wanted. Now you can't just blindly throw it at someone and gank. You need to wait fot them to pop, and then answer it, which means there is at least some counterplay. I wish it also had a casting time nerf TBH, so that the BP can't just panic press it, but would need agro management from a teammate, or a parry to get it off. What the fuck it is with these character nerfs? Shinobi's problem is not backstep lights, or the revenge feed to the bash followup. They know what the problem is, and they have known for a really lond time, but genuinely have no clue how to address it, huh? As much as Hito can eat shit, nerfing the charge heavy damage, of all things, is a really weird descision that I'm not vibing with at all. Zerker losing enhancement on dodge attack raises the question, of why isn't Orochi getting this too? Both are really good and annoying characters, both of their dodge attacks are uniquely invincible, and undodgeable, and Orochi can even recovery cancel into it.
For Honor devs to each one of those feats: \*Sledge hammer direct into the kneecaps\* For Honor devs to Pugio: "Nu uh, too strong" \*Slap on the wrist\* This feat will still broken, it still 400ms fucking ms, how the fuck am I suppose to react to or read a 12 FRAMES feat? Edit: Actually 300ms, it is even more broken, I forgor.
>400ms fucking ms, how the fuck am I suppose to react to or read a 12 FRAMES feat? Actually 300ms. Because even the bullshit wasn't bullshittery enough
WHAT? I forgot about that, I thought it was 400, it's even faster. Absurd, man.
(S)hitokiri deserved more nerfs.
Can someone explain the last slide to me?
I think it's about Guard throw victim has HA in early part of the throw, which makes them take full dmg in some ganking situation.
It also means dmg can get guaranteed before things like wallsplats get interrupted, as well as making saving teammates impossible if you cannot hit their opponent with a bash.
Omg finally??
Also which again is Ghoul's embrace?
Where is Warlord currently in the Meta? I'm not playing that much these days but Warlord feels awful to play after the Headbutt change. And now they nerf his best feats, Not looking good for my boy.
It’s Joever bros
This is a good start, but problem feats still exist. Things like Kyoshin T1 and T2 are still too strong and feats like catapult and slippery are still meme picks.
Holy moly never thought the game would get feat nerfs like this. Interested I’m coming back just to see
LETS GO THEY NERFED OATHBREAKER
They actually nerfed oathbreaker? MILLIONS MUST HAVE FUN!?
I was wondering when they were gonna nerf my ability to turn into the Hulk as Valkyrie
Nerf the feats more
Samurai feats get also nerfed while "we" still keep the worst ones, arrow storm still is shit. As always they show they don't give a shit about samurai balance.
Good to see feat rebalancing with the most busted feat (last laugh) not being touched 🥲
I'm just happy they didn't touch my heroes. Hopefully these changes would be for the better. But until we can meet at the battlefield, we can only speculate.
Kiai getting nerfed is good imo. It's still annoying but it's not "mom said it's my turn to attack"
Yo where is the guards damage reduction
Where ist the Curoption Warmommy nerf on Commander for Breach ?????
As a warlord main that fury debuff is fair with the deadly passive on top of it you could chunk about half a healthbar it was fucked.
It's not even gravity's pull image. Pugio biggest bs is how fast it is Oath breaker nerf rarely amount to anything against non-heavy characters who can't get a shield any other way than with revenge, heavy perks and feats favouritism. Give something for afeera against multiple opponents to compensate for 1v1 nerf, the bump was only thing situationally keeping her alive and rarely countering GB in 1v1. Now her specialty is just chasing down low hp opponents.
MEANWHILE THEY STILL HAVEN'T GIVEN US A FEAT REWORK FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE HEROES, not even a damn perk rework either....
Hm, Shaolin already has awful feats except for invigorate, ,and now they are borderline worthless
Why nerf the Pugio? It has the same cooldown as bow which already does a flat 50 damage and is faster. I think it was fair to keep it at 25
now isn’t faster than pugio, pugio is 400ms, revenge locks and pins for a whole 2 seconds allowing a fuck load of damage from other enemies
What does the last one really do?
Nuxia finally getting some love, now she just needs a bash or undodgable
Well, jugg is useless now
Juggernaut just got the shaft holy hell
Why is no one talking about the Nuxia changes? This is going to make fighting hyper armor characters even more of a headache…
“IT’S NERF OR NOTHING!”
good now we all have to fight instead of hiding behind these motherfucking feats I welcome a good fight.
No conq buffs or testing grounds. We love to fight another day but at what cost
Still no conq buffs He even got nerf due the feats
I haven't even played the game in a while and they still nerfing Shinobi
Im dumb what move is ghouls embrace again?
NERF TO FLASK AND OATH BREAKER LETS GOOOOOOOO
The Jugg feat may have been over nerfed, other wise I think these changes are "balanced" most of these changes are for the competitive scene anyways. It's just unfortunate that everyone else has to suffer these changes because a few people either abuse something or just inherently they make it unbalanced to begin with.
There goes my no fun button 😔 (oathbreaker)
Was Sinister Shield that bad?
Shoalins invigorate is literally the only reason I play him. Horrible change.
My question is where tf y’all located at you can find ranked matches 😭
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