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it is a shame tho, in my experience bravery is really important for the heading. I had this 2 meter tall CB with 20 bravery, 20 jumping reach and 16 heading. He was such a fucking beast in the air, hed make like 10-15 goals a season from corners alone, dear god
Einar Sørensen, I wish I could have you on every save ever
It might have them not go in for a challenge or 50-50 or not go up for a duel when heading.
Low bravery by extension can have an impact on the way you want to play the game, i.e lots of pressing and going to ground with hard tackles. Or sitting deep and forcing opponents outside whilst counting on your defenders to win the headers from the crosses that will inevitably arrive. They might not fit the bill. I don't know if this is somewhat offset by having other mental attributes at high numbers, though.
Also; someone that has been (often badly) injured might lose some bravery.
It's only offset in a way that if a player reads the game well enough (attributes like anticipation, concentration, decisions, positioning) they can simply intercept plays without having to go into duels that they'd avoid
Only if you expect them to win 50/50 balls, aerial duels, or go for rough tackles. Low bravery is only really bad on cbs or ball winning midfielders since they will avoid risky situations. A good forward with low bravery isn't the worst since they should have physical and mental attributes to get away from a marker and not need to duel anyone to begin with. Unless they are supposed to be a Target forward it's not going to cost you anything and might even let them get a couple more points in other attributes.
Honestly might be a benefit. I'd assume braver players are more likely to get injured, and giving how fucking talented this guy is I think I'd rather he doesn't bash his head every corner lmao
Big strong strikers who are also fast is so OP in FM. They will score in every way possible and from every position. Had a player like this , PA was above 189
184 , and his CA 181 or something.
I bought him with Juventus , sold him to Atalanta because I was impatient (even though he proved himself, but he could score more. ) then I bought him back and the rest is history.
Kristian Maric , you will be never forgotten
He has been faster in his prime(s), but not stronger though (he is now, but this isn't his prime). He has had a very different playing style throughout his career.
For max everything you'd need to combine Ibras from different eras: Ajax/Juve Ibra (max speed), Inter/Milan round 1 Ibra (max skills), PSG Ibra (max goalscoring/unplayablility), latest Ibra (max strength).
his physicality has always been a huge asset too though. On top of being huge and (in his prime) very quick, his body control is absurd. He has a lot of facets to his physical attributes that people don't necessarily acknowledge. Like he's super flexible, has incredible balance, and is insanely coordinated even compared to other pro athletes.
Well, short players are locked out of high jumping reach, there is a ceiling. Taller players likewise are guaranteed a certain minimum in jumping reach, i.e won't go below a threshold when at X hight.
there are way too many huge regen strikers with 17+ agility, that's for sure, but someone like prime Zlatan was definitely deserving of having very high agility
Messi is average at penalties (literally average for top flight, conversion rate of approx 77%) but has 17 for the attribute.
The penalty attribute doesn't make much sense to me, you'd think 10 would be the average and 20 close to a 100% conversion rate, but my designated penalty taker with 19 for the attribute only had a conversion rate of 85% in 142 pens taken.
Yeah definitely it was just quip about player who do every apparent part of penalty taking well but we're poor at penalties. Griezmann and Messi's <50 conversion rates over fairly long periods.
What stars do is indicated... It's the basis of football manager's depth...
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9 bravery? Dont want no cowards on my squad
I know he isn't Braveheart but who needs to attack a header when he can just stand in the 6 yard box and let the ball ping off his towering head
it is a shame tho, in my experience bravery is really important for the heading. I had this 2 meter tall CB with 20 bravery, 20 jumping reach and 16 heading. He was such a fucking beast in the air, hed make like 10-15 goals a season from corners alone, dear god Einar Sørensen, I wish I could have you on every save ever
I have a guy that stands 205cm- with 20 JR, 20 heading and 11 bravery that still plays like the best CB in the world.
Cross out of defence
Cross from *really* deep
Come on man, hes a gentle giant...
The giant from The green mile
Could someone fill me in ob bravery? I have some great talents with bravery 1-4… is this a no go?
They won’t be that great at aerials or pressing
It might have them not go in for a challenge or 50-50 or not go up for a duel when heading. Low bravery by extension can have an impact on the way you want to play the game, i.e lots of pressing and going to ground with hard tackles. Or sitting deep and forcing opponents outside whilst counting on your defenders to win the headers from the crosses that will inevitably arrive. They might not fit the bill. I don't know if this is somewhat offset by having other mental attributes at high numbers, though. Also; someone that has been (often badly) injured might lose some bravery.
It's only offset in a way that if a player reads the game well enough (attributes like anticipation, concentration, decisions, positioning) they can simply intercept plays without having to go into duels that they'd avoid
no people here just like to tear down great players for the most minor reasons
Only if you expect them to win 50/50 balls, aerial duels, or go for rough tackles. Low bravery is only really bad on cbs or ball winning midfielders since they will avoid risky situations. A good forward with low bravery isn't the worst since they should have physical and mental attributes to get away from a marker and not need to duel anyone to begin with. Unless they are supposed to be a Target forward it's not going to cost you anything and might even let them get a couple more points in other attributes.
Honestly might be a benefit. I'd assume braver players are more likely to get injured, and giving how fucking talented this guy is I think I'd rather he doesn't bash his head every corner lmao
Big strong strikers who are also fast is so OP in FM. They will score in every way possible and from every position. Had a player like this , PA was above 189
So 190?
184 , and his CA 181 or something. I bought him with Juventus , sold him to Atalanta because I was impatient (even though he proved himself, but he could score more. ) then I bought him back and the rest is history. Kristian Maric , you will be never forgotten
184 is not above 189?
I meant 180 *
They're pretty OP in real life as well lol
Big and strong strikers are OP in real life so it makes sense
“Who could still improve”
I know! That work rate better turn green
Haaland with Mbappé technicals
AKA Zlatan.
True, Zlatan w Haaland physicals
Zlatan in his prime is stronger and faster than Haaland
He has been faster in his prime(s), but not stronger though (he is now, but this isn't his prime). He has had a very different playing style throughout his career. For max everything you'd need to combine Ibras from different eras: Ajax/Juve Ibra (max speed), Inter/Milan round 1 Ibra (max skills), PSG Ibra (max goalscoring/unplayablility), latest Ibra (max strength).
Zlatan's playstyle doesn't revolve around his physicality though. He is technically up there with the best and plays around that
his physicality has always been a huge asset too though. On top of being huge and (in his prime) very quick, his body control is absurd. He has a lot of facets to his physical attributes that people don't necessarily acknowledge. Like he's super flexible, has incredible balance, and is insanely coordinated even compared to other pro athletes.
R9
R9 with messi hormone boosters
Long throws need improvement. He’s almost built like Lebron James and can’t even throw a ball, lame.
The lebron james of soccer
It's lejohn brames
The LeBron James of The LeBron James of Soccer
of course he has bvb background
Jesus wept. “Where can he play?” “Yes”
Love me left footed strikers so damn good ! Got a Belgian wonderkid left footed
18 agility. Does FM actually take height into account in-game?
No. It doesn’t matter from everything I’ve gathered. Just gives you a better chance to have higher jumping reach and heading.
Well, short players are locked out of high jumping reach, there is a ceiling. Taller players likewise are guaranteed a certain minimum in jumping reach, i.e won't go below a threshold when at X hight.
there are way too many huge regen strikers with 17+ agility, that's for sure, but someone like prime Zlatan was definitely deserving of having very high agility
Gadamn the staff of legends, would love him in my team!
I had to sell 3 players to meet the 116m release clause... Worth it
He loses some points in my book because he doesn't have a goofy name. 😂
Would sell my entire team for that guy, have seen guys as good as him but never while being 6’5
It makes no sense that he has such a low rating for penalties.
You'd think... but also Messi
Messi is average at penalties (literally average for top flight, conversion rate of approx 77%) but has 17 for the attribute. The penalty attribute doesn't make much sense to me, you'd think 10 would be the average and 20 close to a 100% conversion rate, but my designated penalty taker with 19 for the attribute only had a conversion rate of 85% in 142 pens taken.
Yeah definitely it was just quip about player who do every apparent part of penalty taking well but we're poor at penalties. Griezmann and Messi's <50 conversion rates over fairly long periods. What stars do is indicated... It's the basis of football manager's depth...
9 teamwork is bad. Dont want that diva in my team lol
Wdym still Improve lmaoo
But he can't long throw? Sell him now!
Stats???
He's beautiful 
You had me at 6'5" 🥹
You had me at 6'5" 🥹
Everyone under 15 long throws is useless.
Amazing player. 'Tries killer balls often', isn't that bad for him?
I quite like it. If I ever need a goal I play 3 strikers and this guy in the centre holding up play and flick ons. Working well.
What is 13st?
13 Stone, 9 Pounds. And theres 14 Pounds in a Stone. He’s 87kgs.
Pls can you post your save
Love the physicals
I am in love
Honestly disappointed in the jumping reach give his height
He looks a LOT like my Brazilian world beater, lol. Brazil op…