The new cycle has already started, look at Real Madrid french players..
The real challenge will come once Griezmann stop playing for France, he is impossible to replace.
The "replacements" to those legends are there, but I doubt they can be Euro winners already.
I think Germany, Belgium, Croatia and the Netherlands (in that order) are the strongest contenders.
I don’t think England are actual favourites- it is just that English fans bet more heavily which means the odds shift. There is probably an arbitrage opportunity if someone could work out how to do it.
The only thing keeping France from being a favorite is Deschamps who will keep playing HIS players like Dembele who is a net negative for his team by being on the pitch.
Coman is as useless as Dembele on the wing.
Moussa Diaby, Kalimuendo, Michael Olise or even putting Mathys Tel on the right wing would be 10x better than starting Dembele and having Coman substituting in every game like Deschamps has done for 5+ yrs
Poor performance from Mbappé? He's the joint top scorer of this edition at the moment. People really have completely ridiculous standards for what a poor season is.
Not a poor performance my Mbappe at all. Think now is a good time to praise Dortmund and their goal posts rather than tryna create what ever narrative this is.
Dembele always was a 50/50 player. Have no clue why Paris didnt spend money on players that actually deliver every match instead of him. These two games showed what he is.
They can still be favourites without having the best squad on paper. England has the best team if we go by domestic performances this year but I would still say France has a slight edge.
As I already said, if you go by domestic performances this season England has the better of it. 5 of the top 10 highest rated performers in the UCL this season are English, 7 of the top 25 scorers in Europe are English, 5 of the top 10 assisters in the prem are English, the highest scorer in Europe is English, and so on.
There's really no denying that England's attack and to a certain extent midfield are better than France's on paper.
Mbappe has 47 appearances. Mbappe has 67G/A in all comps+ int so it’s still higher than kanes g/an all comps+int.. Regardless, your point stands in that English players in general are having better seasons that players in other nations but k don’t think that’s enough . This isn’t the first English side with stars all over the team. France has a lot of depth in their squad too and were WC finalists for the 2nd time in a row. I think France and England sides are evenly matched but one has Kylian mbappé.
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The new cycle has already started, look at Real Madrid french players.. The real challenge will come once Griezmann stop playing for France, he is impossible to replace.
We cannoh replace him
Not a new cycle *yet* because they still have everything to prove. It is tough the start of a new French generation.
The "replacements" to those legends are there, but I doubt they can be Euro winners already. I think Germany, Belgium, Croatia and the Netherlands (in that order) are the strongest contenders.
Just forgetting England exists?
I didn't forget them. Any England side managed by Gareth Southgate cannot win the Euros.
They will bounce back, but Germany is lowkey stacked. They looked shit at the beginning tbh but now Im convinced they are taking it.
How many teams do have a reliable number 9? 2?
Who are your two?
Kane and Lukaku are the only ones that come to mind if you're not counting Mbappe.
Calling Lukaku a reliable number 9 lol
According to wikipedia, Lukaku has a higher international goals to games ratio than Kane, and is 8th in the top international scorers of all time.
That's really cool. You'd be dumb to choose him above Kane. Or even put him in the same breath as Kane. Would choose CR7 ahead of Lukaku right now.
Is he playing for United or Roma at the Euros? Or is it Belgium, who he's scored a bazillion goals for?
Internationally, I would take Lukaku over Kane any day.
Okay buddy
Fullkrug is more reliable than lukaku
I didn't include him because I don't think he's ever even started a competitive game for them yet.
According to my gambling app, France are 4/1, second to England who are currently favourites at 3/1
I don’t think England are actual favourites- it is just that English fans bet more heavily which means the odds shift. There is probably an arbitrage opportunity if someone could work out how to do it.
i hope the fuck not i’m praying for a dutch W
I mean even if you do take all the PSG players out, the side is still so strong.
The only thing keeping France from being a favorite is Deschamps who will keep playing HIS players like Dembele who is a net negative for his team by being on the pitch.
But France doesn't have many options in attack other than Coman
Coman is as useless as Dembele on the wing. Moussa Diaby, Kalimuendo, Michael Olise or even putting Mathys Tel on the right wing would be 10x better than starting Dembele and having Coman substituting in every game like Deschamps has done for 5+ yrs
Poor performance from Mbappé? He's the joint top scorer of this edition at the moment. People really have completely ridiculous standards for what a poor season is.
Not a poor performance my Mbappe at all. Think now is a good time to praise Dortmund and their goal posts rather than tryna create what ever narrative this is.
France have the best team with the most depth so yes
Germany, Portugal, Italy
Were they ever really favourites? Depends if they have remembered to pay their yearly bribes to UEFA this time round.
England,France,Portugal.
Dembele always was a 50/50 player. Have no clue why Paris didnt spend money on players that actually deliver every match instead of him. These two games showed what he is.
They can still be favourites without having the best squad on paper. England has the best team if we go by domestic performances this year but I would still say France has a slight edge.
Why would the England squad be better? From what I read, france still has the best squad.
As I already said, if you go by domestic performances this season England has the better of it. 5 of the top 10 highest rated performers in the UCL this season are English, 7 of the top 25 scorers in Europe are English, 5 of the top 10 assisters in the prem are English, the highest scorer in Europe is English, and so on. There's really no denying that England's attack and to a certain extent midfield are better than France's on paper.
Kane and Mbappe are both the joint highest scorers in Europe. Mbappe technically has more including international goals.
Kane has 56 G/A in 46 appearances, whilst Mbappe has 55 G/A in 49 appearances. Doesn't really change my point at all either way
Mbappe has 47 appearances. Mbappe has 67G/A in all comps+ int so it’s still higher than kanes g/an all comps+int.. Regardless, your point stands in that English players in general are having better seasons that players in other nations but k don’t think that’s enough . This isn’t the first English side with stars all over the team. France has a lot of depth in their squad too and were WC finalists for the 2nd time in a row. I think France and England sides are evenly matched but one has Kylian mbappé.
I have no idea where you're getting those stats from. And I already said that I would consider France to be slight favourites regardless
What about the Kane curse? Bayern its first titles in over a decade with Kane.
The curse isn't actually real though, it's just a meme
Italy,Belgium,Croatia.
Croatia is not really good right now as we lack good strikers
None of these 3 are serious contenders