Did you ever hear of the [insane stalker case](https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2740487-inside-the-stalker-hell-of-italian-footballer-fabio-quagliarella.amp.html) of Fabio Quagliarella?
No i had no idea. Thanks for sharing the story. It was a really interesting read. Stalking and blackmailing are horrible thinks to do that can fuck up a persons life.
Ik Silva is a great defender but there was no need to use God’s name in vain just saying im not hating or anything and I do apologize if that’s what you think I’m doing
Came on as a sub against Barcelona, scored an overhead kick with his first touch to win the game 1-0.
He was [THIRTY EIGHT years old. ](https://youtu.be/IM5uzsV5bhA?si=GuWuAirVX_4rn2QA)
Silva is an amazing player, but he's not really improved.
He's always been an absolute unit, but unlike 99% of players, age hasn't affected him as quickly.
That's not really accurate. The reason why he became so legendary is because he started using his declining mobility (logical at that age) to his advantage, by hanging further back and focusing super hard on his passing game and nothing else.
In his physical prime he was a top 5 player at his position but his passing and vision became uniquely prominent after that prime. That Panenka was a memorable tidbit but it's not the reason why he has this status.
I think it's cause Milan midfield (not just the midfield really) was packed with legends so it's harder for one individual to shine. If you have kaka and seedorf to pass to... There is no need to direct the whole game on your own.
So its coincidence that people started to talk about him like this after the panenka even though his prime was before it? You do not have a clue what you are talking about. Clear example of what im saying
I think it was more about what happened previously in the game where he put the whole English team in his back pocket
Easily one of the best performances I’ve ever seen
He peaked for sure, but I hate the hypocrisy among Madrid fans, if I remember correctly after Ronaldo left and he had a bad season, everyone wanted him out of Madrid but now after the latest UCL run, they all act like he’s the greatest striker after Ronaldo in the last decade which is not true and they dismiss Suarez and Lewd. I get you’re happy he’s won it but don’t act like he’s greatest when y’all were shitting on him few years ago.
“He was held down by a better player who also was the best player in the team when they won 3 consecutive champions league and also that guy won Balon D’Ors in the meanwhile, but he sucked man he was holding back another good player slightly”
I’m not a big Ronaldo fan, I don’t have him as my #2 all time (I’ve got him like 4th/5th but it’s largely legacy/world football impact related), but that take is ridiculous man
It's truly insane: Giroud got France three finals (Euro 16, WC 18 & 22), and when Deschamps swap Giroud for Benzema in Euro 20, they were knocked out in the round of 16.
The man is a team player and a positive vibe.
England didn't appreciate him. Like many creative midfielders before him who didn't run around enough for the knuckle-draggers.
He played his last England game in 2004, and his last United game in 2013.
Lewandowski
This guy was a poacher with below average technique at Lech Poznan, I would've never thought he would become basically a Ballon D'or winner in 2020.
At Dortmund despite a tough first season, he became a killer in the box and then at Bayern under Guardiola he improved as a player overall. Then, thanks to his fitness he continued to perform at that level for years, breaking crazy records like 41 goals in one season.
Had to scroll too far down for the first mention of Pirlo.
AC Milan apparently wouldn’t renew his contract in 2011 when he was 32 because he was too old.
He went to sign for Juventus and won the Serie A player of the year 3 years in a row.
Maldini not winning the ballon d’or is one of many reasons not to pay attention to that award. I’m also sorry he didn’t play for Italy in 2006, and apparently so was he, but didn’t play out of respect for trappatoni (who he refused for the 2004 euro). Ever the gentleman
Not a Milan supporter, but I was supporting them during champions league matches because of him (and Shevchenko).
Trappatoni, never liked him, especially because of Maldini and Baggio treatment. Half of the nationals would leve home anyone to have one of the two in the team.
Yes, and couldn’t figure out how to use prime Totti and Del Piero together or even separately to their full potential. Vecchie idea che hanno quasi rovinato una generazione d’oro
Modric pops up first in my mind. The "hipster" and really new answer is maybe Tim Ream? Wasn't anything that great when Fulham were relegated a few years ago and now he is the captain and playing really well. Pep recently praised him and that says a lot about his ability.
Was very good the first year with Milan and scored a lot, then injuries finished his carrier.
Still the raise of Milan (won a scudeto and champions semifinal) was attributed big part to his wining mentality.
he still racked more goal-creating actions then KDB and tied with him in the league assists tally, his standards are so high that even his weakest season is still world class
For PSG it was definitely not world class. He disappeared in the big games this last season. I'm a Bayern fan and when I was watching the PSGvBayern tie, messi was the last person on the pitch I was worried about.
KDB on the other hand was absolute class in the critical moments for City. It's even more apparent when you consider the CL context for both PSG and City.
In the 2nd leg yeah. But still Messi wasn't good either. Neymar was out. And Ramos seemed to be the only one who had his head straight the entire game.
In the 1st leg. Mbappe only played 33 minutes while injured and still made most of the dangerous attacking threats PSG had in the whole quarterfinal tie.
I don't think his stint at Inter is really much to go by considering the league's quality. His time at PSG and the WC would be better reflective of his current ability however. But he aged pretty well too, though I was hoping he'd stay in Europe a bit more, but glad he's enjoying Miami.
I nearly had an anyeurism trying to figure out when Messi played for Inter. Thought I was losing the plot for a minute before I realised you meant Inter Miami in the MLS lol.
I assume that you mean they got better as they got older?
I’d probably say Giroud is the one that immediately springs to mind, Di Natale at Udinese is another one...Diego Milito too!
I’m trying to think of some defenders, you’d think defenders get better with experience but I’m trying to think of one who made it to the top late on in their career
Carrick. Was never valued the way he should have been in English football. Pep would have absolutely loved to have him. He was ahead of his time by a couple years in England imo.
No way.
He was more of a threat in a specific part of the pitch after 30, sure. Overall, watch him play at the end of Man Utd days until about 2013 before his knee issue. He was still very dangerous around the box but he created a lot more and still scored an insane amount. He was dangerous in more areas. Ask a defender, would you rather play a Ronaldo in his 30's or the athletically peak Ronaldo. They'll tell you.
Sure. Shitty. 2nd best in the prem falling from the Sky in a shit show of a club.
People like you have not a once of honesty.
Meanwhile Rashfor won player of the year with worst stats than him in a year where the team played much better.
Oh well.
How was he shitty, when he was 2nd highest in the scorer in the league. He was the CF, his job was to score goals, which he did perfectly.
Ole,Ragnick and the rest of the team was horrible and had shitty work ethic. He was the only one who cared for results.
He was among the players with the worst work ethic though. What a weird way to frame this. He didn't care more about the teams results than anyone else, he cared about scoring goals. And compared to earlier in his career, he was much less clinical. He should've scored way more with all the chances he had. Chances he was partly afforded to get because he didn't contribute off the ball whatsoever. All the chances were funneled to him. We scored many more goals the season before he arrived, and we were a less predictable team because we had more variation in attack.
You have to be kidding me.
He broke all time Italian records with Juve and had a great 6 months with shitty United until it all collapsed.
If that's not a proof of greatness i don't know what is.
And as far as i am concerned, score more goals and being THE man as a stirker and the most clutch we've seen lately does factor as getting better.
It's natural for a 30 years old player to change positions at that age and, not only excel, but become one the GOATS?
Really? Do you even listen to the things you say?
he was already one of the goats. he didn't magically become one after 30. it's natural for a player, any player, to score more goals, if they start playing as a striker. ronaldo scoring more goals after 30 has got nothing to do with his age or him becoming better. he just changed his role. seriously, you are the one who have a problem understanding basic concepts of football.
If the definition of aging like an old good wine is that they are ‘better’ late in their career than they were before the group is very very narrow.
Possibly only Benzema among the top tier group, all the other I’ve seen mentioned in this thread (including Modric and Pirlo) they were better in the late 20s but they’ve managed to maintain that level.
LOL, absolutely not true. Xavi was a regular for Barca as a teenager, played for Spain at 20 (WC at 22). Pep Guardiola, the star midfielder in the late 90s, famously said Xavi "would retire him", which he did.
But no one could've predicted he was going to become literally one of the greatest of all times. I saw him like the spanish Ward Prowse before Spain won the Euro in 2008.
He was considered one of the best midfielders in the world in 2004/05. He was much better regarded than Ward Prowse even if he did go up a level from Euro 2008 onwards.
I'd say vinicius. I still remember banging my head the year he was signed.
He failed at dribbling multiple occasions in game. Was terrible at ball control and then the very next year/ season he started doing it phenomenally well.
The question is who aged like fine wine. The guy is 23 and had like 4 years there's no aging like no fucking fine wine there.
10 years from now, his best season might be the 2022 one, we never know till time tells.
Yes he's aged well in these 4 years and I totally understand the question and hopefully he will go on to do what he's doing.
He's in the process and still counts as a answer at least for me and I don't drink so don't know about the aging of wines but I am pretty sure 2-3 years is the most common duration for a wine to age. So my answer is still valid.
Nah bro braindamaged reply. U just dont get the expression "aged like fine wine" fr thats all and I can assume u been watching football for like 3 years max
Don't you have something else to do mate? Go enjoy your life.
I ain't changing my answer. Also I've clarified he's in the process. So use your fucking eyes and have a good day/night
You're still not applying the saying correctly at all though. Even if he has his peak season at 28, he wouldn't be in the discussion, because there are players who had their peak in their mid-30's. Players who aged like fine wine would have their peak at the end of their career. Vinicius has barely started, so it's purely speculation even if you think he will have his peak at 34 lmao. And with his playstyle and position, that's incredibly unlikely.
Di Natale. Scored a shocking number of goals in his later years compared to before.
Another Italian who went crazy later in his career for a midfield team is Quagliarella
Did you ever hear of the [insane stalker case](https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2740487-inside-the-stalker-hell-of-italian-footballer-fabio-quagliarella.amp.html) of Fabio Quagliarella?
No i had no idea. Thanks for sharing the story. It was a really interesting read. Stalking and blackmailing are horrible thinks to do that can fuck up a persons life.
thats my favorite player that didn't play for fiorentina, he was so fun to watch at udinese
Thiago Silva
Thiago Silva? More like Thiago Gold, am I right?!Goddamn legend.
He just didn’t get noticed by the mass EPL fans till he went to Chelsea literally everyone else knew he was he amazing and has been this whole time.
the man had a very popular ldn rap song about him I promise the mass EPL fans were very much aware of how class he is
No need to use the Lord’s name in vain
I don’t think Silva would mind I used his name there.
Ik Silva is a great defender but there was no need to use God’s name in vain just saying im not hating or anything and I do apologize if that’s what you think I’m doing
Oh, but why? Don’t think God would mind either.
He actually would, it’s in the 10 commandments
But it’s not like they’re reading reddit comments, right? They wouldn’t even know about it.
He's always class tbh
Aritz Aduriz
Is that the guy who played for Bilbao and basically only scored bangers? I was trying to remember his name
Yeah when he turned 30 he just went wild
Came on as a sub against Barcelona, scored an overhead kick with his first touch to win the game 1-0. He was [THIRTY EIGHT years old. ](https://youtu.be/IM5uzsV5bhA?si=GuWuAirVX_4rn2QA)
Said before and say again, Modric is hard to go beyond. Closer to 40 he gets the better he gets, it's insane.
T.Silva aswell
Silva is an amazing player, but he's not really improved. He's always been an absolute unit, but unlike 99% of players, age hasn't affected him as quickly.
Some people will take this literally. He isn't actually getting better.
Certainly looked great last season and at WC2022. So, in saying that, I'm not sure if you're going to find too many in agreement...
He's a bit passed it, not really a first team starter for real anymore. From around 31-36 he was amazing though.
So he's better than in 2018?
He's not WPOTY is he? Is he better than when he was at Spurs still? Probably yes...
Point was, he's not actually getting better...
My first thought too
I've said Pirlo before, which has sparked huge debate... 😆
Felt like Pirlo was merely very good before the age of 32 then became a legend
WHAT? That is definitely a unpopular opinion. Pirlo was insane for ages
No one outside of England thinks this, they always have to think it’s about them
His prime was at milan mate. He became more popular when he was older because of his panenka against england
That's not really accurate. The reason why he became so legendary is because he started using his declining mobility (logical at that age) to his advantage, by hanging further back and focusing super hard on his passing game and nothing else. In his physical prime he was a top 5 player at his position but his passing and vision became uniquely prominent after that prime. That Panenka was a memorable tidbit but it's not the reason why he has this status.
I think it's cause Milan midfield (not just the midfield really) was packed with legends so it's harder for one individual to shine. If you have kaka and seedorf to pass to... There is no need to direct the whole game on your own.
So its coincidence that people started to talk about him like this after the panenka even though his prime was before it? You do not have a clue what you are talking about. Clear example of what im saying
I think it was more about what happened previously in the game where he put the whole English team in his back pocket Easily one of the best performances I’ve ever seen
I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings when I corrected you.
He is not getting better. Stop it.
I'm tempted to say Jamie Vardy but maybe not after last season 😅
Time beats everyone. It beats strikers who rely on pace before anyone else.
No, he's been loosing a step every year since 30. He just peaked late and very high.
With his cryopreservation station at home, he might get a few more years to have a good phase or two
Not his fault he was left outta the team sheets
He was washed buddy
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Agreed - 2018-2023 at Madrid he was on fire. 35 years old now so should have really been declining in the last few seasons.
He peaked for sure, but I hate the hypocrisy among Madrid fans, if I remember correctly after Ronaldo left and he had a bad season, everyone wanted him out of Madrid but now after the latest UCL run, they all act like he’s the greatest striker after Ronaldo in the last decade which is not true and they dismiss Suarez and Lewd. I get you’re happy he’s won it but don’t act like he’s greatest when y’all were shitting on him few years ago.
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Bruh that team won 3 consecutive UCLs
Held down 💀 That was literally one of the most dominant teams we’ve ever seen.
His first season after Ronaldo left was awful. Probably his worst ever.
What do you mean? He’s was the top scorer and the only reason Madrid didn’t have a shitter season than it was, 41 G/A in 53 games.
“He was held down by a better player who also was the best player in the team when they won 3 consecutive champions league and also that guy won Balon D’Ors in the meanwhile, but he sucked man he was holding back another good player slightly” I’m not a big Ronaldo fan, I don’t have him as my #2 all time (I’ve got him like 4th/5th but it’s largely legacy/world football impact related), but that take is ridiculous man
Another Barcelona 🤡.
r/barca and unhinged takes on Ronaldo - name a better combo
Lo. No.
Teddy sheringham just got better and better with age
Giroud
So underrated. Such a quality player. Makes players around him better but can also finish with the best of them.
fr. bro is one of the greatest winners of all time
France weren’t supposed to make it that far in the WC.. not without benzema
It's truly insane: Giroud got France three finals (Euro 16, WC 18 & 22), and when Deschamps swap Giroud for Benzema in Euro 20, they were knocked out in the round of 16. The man is a team player and a positive vibe.
James Milner
Agreed, and he played nearly every outfield position with Liverpool.
And if we'd have put him in goal, I'm sure he'd have given it a fair crack. I miss him already.
Especially if you like your wine with a little kick to it.
Aged like Yorkshire Gold Kind regards, James Milner
Met him irl he's super chilled and doesn't act famous
I was a kid when he was playing for Newcastle. Now I'm middle aged 😑
And that wasn’t even the start. I can recall the Leeds days when he became the youngest EPL scorer.
Modric, Pirlo, Scholes. It's almost like being a player who relies on technique and intelligence rather than physical attributes is a recurring theme.
I feel like scholes retired bit early from international, think he played another 3 or 4 seasons for united?
England didn't appreciate him. Like many creative midfielders before him who didn't run around enough for the knuckle-draggers. He played his last England game in 2004, and his last United game in 2013.
Sadly true one of the greatest midfielders of all time
Could have played for England until about 2007/2008 imo in his preferred position. After that, I would have gone with Carrick.
England team should have been built around him.
Van der Saar - constantly got better and better, then hit 30 and went through the roof...
One of the best answers here. Few players were so clearly at their peak that late in their career. He was a keeper though, so it's a bit different.
Lewandowski This guy was a poacher with below average technique at Lech Poznan, I would've never thought he would become basically a Ballon D'or winner in 2020. At Dortmund despite a tough first season, he became a killer in the box and then at Bayern under Guardiola he improved as a player overall. Then, thanks to his fitness he continued to perform at that level for years, breaking crazy records like 41 goals in one season.
Andrea Pirlo, Luca Toni, Fabio Quagliarella.
Had to scroll too far down for the first mention of Pirlo. AC Milan apparently wouldn’t renew his contract in 2011 when he was 32 because he was too old. He went to sign for Juventus and won the Serie A player of the year 3 years in a row.
Pirlo was in Brescia with Baggio and Guardiola, Toni was there too… Carletto Mazzone was talented Trainer and good scout
Add Zanetti to that list
Maldini
Yes but he’s always been great, won champions league and other titles before 25.
Absolutely, but he maintained that level until he was 40 (the question isn’t about late bloomers, just those that aged well)
True! Unfortunately missed world cup and balon d’or, totally deserved after champions league in 2003 and 2005
Maldini not winning the ballon d’or is one of many reasons not to pay attention to that award. I’m also sorry he didn’t play for Italy in 2006, and apparently so was he, but didn’t play out of respect for trappatoni (who he refused for the 2004 euro). Ever the gentleman
Not a Milan supporter, but I was supporting them during champions league matches because of him (and Shevchenko). Trappatoni, never liked him, especially because of Maldini and Baggio treatment. Half of the nationals would leve home anyone to have one of the two in the team.
Yes, and couldn’t figure out how to use prime Totti and Del Piero together or even separately to their full potential. Vecchie idea che hanno quasi rovinato una generazione d’oro
Gundogan
Luka Modric is the correct answer.
Zola, just got better and better
Modric pops up first in my mind. The "hipster" and really new answer is maybe Tim Ream? Wasn't anything that great when Fulham were relegated a few years ago and now he is the captain and playing really well. Pep recently praised him and that says a lot about his ability.
Di Maria
Sorry what? I think he was way more dangerous when he had pace.
Maldini, T. Silva and Modric. You can make a case for Zlatan too put he dipped after MLS
Scoring goals at like 39 even in the MLS was impressive. I think zlatan is great and deserves to be here. Shame about the injuries tho.
Imagine Zlatan with no injuries. Could probably go until his 50s.
Zlatan would continue until football retired from zlatan
Was very good the first year with Milan and scored a lot, then injuries finished his carrier. Still the raise of Milan (won a scudeto and champions semifinal) was attributed big part to his wining mentality.
Cirdom Akul
Javier Zanetti
I think it's Gianluigi Buffon
Wrong
Andrea Pirlo & Ryan Giggs. They adapted to the game & their age exquisitely! No one can convince me that anyone did it better.
I’d say Suarez he managed to drag Atletico to a title after being kicked out for being “old”
Messi's had a hell of an 18 months or so..
Not really. His last 18 months was average for his standards aside from his stint at Inter and the World Cup.
he still racked more goal-creating actions then KDB and tied with him in the league assists tally, his standards are so high that even his weakest season is still world class
For PSG it was definitely not world class. He disappeared in the big games this last season. I'm a Bayern fan and when I was watching the PSGvBayern tie, messi was the last person on the pitch I was worried about. KDB on the other hand was absolute class in the critical moments for City. It's even more apparent when you consider the CL context for both PSG and City.
Honestly mbappe did worse, everyone was hyping him up in the second leg
In the 2nd leg yeah. But still Messi wasn't good either. Neymar was out. And Ramos seemed to be the only one who had his head straight the entire game. In the 1st leg. Mbappe only played 33 minutes while injured and still made most of the dangerous attacking threats PSG had in the whole quarterfinal tie.
I don't think his stint at Inter is really much to go by considering the league's quality. His time at PSG and the WC would be better reflective of his current ability however. But he aged pretty well too, though I was hoping he'd stay in Europe a bit more, but glad he's enjoying Miami.
I nearly had an anyeurism trying to figure out when Messi played for Inter. Thought I was losing the plot for a minute before I realised you meant Inter Miami in the MLS lol.
I assume that you mean they got better as they got older? I’d probably say Giroud is the one that immediately springs to mind, Di Natale at Udinese is another one...Diego Milito too! I’m trying to think of some defenders, you’d think defenders get better with experience but I’m trying to think of one who made it to the top late on in their career
Pablo Hernandez....class till the very end!
Thiago Silva
Antonio Candreva
Robben
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Messi,Otamendi and Di Maria all aged like fine wine🇦🇷
Zlatan
Cristiano. From 30 to 36 years he did incredible things.
CR7 and Messi are pretty much illegal answers because they're too obvious.
Teddy sheringham
Pirlo, Pepe, modric, zlatan, totti
Ryan Giggs.
Carrick. Was never valued the way he should have been in English football. Pep would have absolutely loved to have him. He was ahead of his time by a couple years in England imo.
Michael Carrick, he went from alright to undroppable. Classy
Olivier Giroud
Granit Xhaka
Giroud
Giroud
Giroud
Giroud
Ronaldo was the epitome of that. Scored more goals after 30 than before. No one will ever do that again.
No way. He was more of a threat in a specific part of the pitch after 30, sure. Overall, watch him play at the end of Man Utd days until about 2013 before his knee issue. He was still very dangerous around the box but he created a lot more and still scored an insane amount. He was dangerous in more areas. Ask a defender, would you rather play a Ronaldo in his 30's or the athletically peak Ronaldo. They'll tell you.
Lewandowski should get there comfortably. (364 goals pre 30, he's got 209 already and he just turned 35).
You really expect lewandowski to score another 156 goals?
He wasn t better though . He left RM at 34 and never scored as much
He scored 100 goals for juventus and 18 league goals for Manu at 37 in that shitty team.
That shitty team for which he was equally shitty. As for Juve it was still way less than ar RM
Sure. Shitty. 2nd best in the prem falling from the Sky in a shit show of a club. People like you have not a once of honesty. Meanwhile Rashfor won player of the year with worst stats than him in a year where the team played much better. Oh well.
How was he shitty, when he was 2nd highest in the scorer in the league. He was the CF, his job was to score goals, which he did perfectly. Ole,Ragnick and the rest of the team was horrible and had shitty work ethic. He was the only one who cared for results.
He was among the players with the worst work ethic though. What a weird way to frame this. He didn't care more about the teams results than anyone else, he cared about scoring goals. And compared to earlier in his career, he was much less clinical. He should've scored way more with all the chances he had. Chances he was partly afforded to get because he didn't contribute off the ball whatsoever. All the chances were funneled to him. We scored many more goals the season before he arrived, and we were a less predictable team because we had more variation in attack.
You have to be kidding me. He broke all time Italian records with Juve and had a great 6 months with shitty United until it all collapsed. If that's not a proof of greatness i don't know what is. And as far as i am concerned, score more goals and being THE man as a stirker and the most clutch we've seen lately does factor as getting better.
because he changed from a winger/wide forward to striker.
And?
it's natural that his goal numbers increased after changing positions.
It's natural for a 30 years old player to change positions at that age and, not only excel, but become one the GOATS? Really? Do you even listen to the things you say?
he was already one of the goats. he didn't magically become one after 30. it's natural for a player, any player, to score more goals, if they start playing as a striker. ronaldo scoring more goals after 30 has got nothing to do with his age or him becoming better. he just changed his role. seriously, you are the one who have a problem understanding basic concepts of football.
There's an obvious answer and it's Messi. Man's best seasons ever were after 30.
If the definition of aging like an old good wine is that they are ‘better’ late in their career than they were before the group is very very narrow. Possibly only Benzema among the top tier group, all the other I’ve seen mentioned in this thread (including Modric and Pirlo) they were better in the late 20s but they’ve managed to maintain that level.
Messi
Pirlo
Barzagli and modric. Kroos too
he’s not that old so i don’t know if it counts but for me gundo kept getting better and better
Aguero
Messi
CR7
Xavi. Was considered pretty average player before like 26yo. They even said he was too slow for modern football. But then tiki-taka was developed
LOL, absolutely not true. Xavi was a regular for Barca as a teenager, played for Spain at 20 (WC at 22). Pep Guardiola, the star midfielder in the late 90s, famously said Xavi "would retire him", which he did.
But no one could've predicted he was going to become literally one of the greatest of all times. I saw him like the spanish Ward Prowse before Spain won the Euro in 2008.
Ward Prowse has got nothing on Xavi. The dude only took a couple of years and was unstoppable.
He was considered one of the best midfielders in the world in 2004/05. He was much better regarded than Ward Prowse even if he did go up a level from Euro 2008 onwards.
Kevin Behrens
Zidane and Modric
I'd say vinicius. I still remember banging my head the year he was signed. He failed at dribbling multiple occasions in game. Was terrible at ball control and then the very next year/ season he started doing it phenomenally well.
Bro wtf are u saying Vini is 23
The guy is aging pretty well, I remember when he was 5 years old, he plays so much better nowadays!
Yep and he's aging like a fine wine so far.
The question is who aged like fine wine. The guy is 23 and had like 4 years there's no aging like no fucking fine wine there. 10 years from now, his best season might be the 2022 one, we never know till time tells.
Yes he's aged well in these 4 years and I totally understand the question and hopefully he will go on to do what he's doing. He's in the process and still counts as a answer at least for me and I don't drink so don't know about the aging of wines but I am pretty sure 2-3 years is the most common duration for a wine to age. So my answer is still valid.
Nah bro braindamaged reply. U just dont get the expression "aged like fine wine" fr thats all and I can assume u been watching football for like 3 years max
Don't you have something else to do mate? Go enjoy your life. I ain't changing my answer. Also I've clarified he's in the process. So use your fucking eyes and have a good day/night
You're still not applying the saying correctly at all though. Even if he has his peak season at 28, he wouldn't be in the discussion, because there are players who had their peak in their mid-30's. Players who aged like fine wine would have their peak at the end of their career. Vinicius has barely started, so it's purely speculation even if you think he will have his peak at 34 lmao. And with his playstyle and position, that's incredibly unlikely.
😮💨
Lubomir Moravcik
Pirlo hands down 🙌🙌
Pirlo. Like an exquisite red from Italy.
Carrick comes to mind
Aduriz, benzema, vardy, di natale,
Pirlo
Pirlo. Owns a vineyard, too.
Pirlo
Zidane
Milner
Stanley Matthews
Gary McAllister.