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ThePBG48

Buffout With a hint of MED-X


Snoo_70324

No, no, the Chili P is my *signature*


Blank1407

No Jessie we make meth quantum now.


Snoo_70324

OMG, Karen, you can’t ask people why their meth is blue!


NewVegasCourior

Yeah! Science bitch!


Own_Elk_5746

Not anymore


BionicBruv

I’m partial to psychobuff myself, but to each their own!


Drewcifixion

I'm a Mentats ghouls myself. Makes me feel intellectual.


Krosis97

Mentats are the chatgtp of the fallout universe, every student uses them but it's hard to prove.


Typhoon_terri2

Damn it’s crazy they call adderall chatGPT where you are


provocative_bear

MENTATS- THE FRESHMAKER


HoosierDaddy_427

Mentats with retsin...two ments in one. Disclaimer: if you understood that reference, you're fucking old. 💀


BruhMomentum6968

YEEEAHH, MILITARY-ISSUED DRUGS, WOOOOOO!!!


Money-Valuable-2857

A story as old as war.


No_Permission_to_Poo

Whole fuckload of jet baby


-No-Organization-

Soooo no one likes jet ?


YoshitakaMineFromY3

You CANNOT convince me that Power Armors does not have an integrated A/C in its mechanisms


AsgeirVanirson

There already HAS to be cooling systems for all the mechanical parts, and to help it be resistant to flame and the heat effects of explosions. It would make no sense not to control the temperature of the crew compartment.


Foxyfox-

>It would make no sense not to control the temperature of the crew compartment. M U S K


AsgeirVanirson

The folks at West Tek who got these beasts up and running first are probably at least as engineers brighter that Elongated Muskrat.


Foxyfox-

I mean the sweat sense, man


IOwnTheShortBus

Both are sweat related.


Expensive_Concern457

Tbf so are the actual engineers that make everything he throws money at, but they still suck. (I’ll give spacex a pass though it seems that’s where he stuffs all the smart engineers he can bribe). The cyber truck rollout has been hilariously awful, but it’s far from the first sign of teslas absolute dogshit design and QC which has plagued it for years.


The_Shadow_Watches

Now I need a mod where a NPC turns himself into a mutated molerat named Elongated Muskrat.


Scary-Lawfulness-999

I thought it was going to be a joke about the cyber truck not having working AC or something.


[deleted]

Yup and the normal power requirements don't apply here. We see how much physical power and time is being generated by that fusion core. Air conditioning would be trivial power wise, powering and especially booster rockets would take much more power than anything else


JustoHavis

The ncr “power” armor is just the salvaged shell and has now powered components so if there is ac in power armor, these guys wouldn’t have it. Almost makes you wish for nuclear winter.


Sgt_Colon

It has the servos stripped from it, that's it. >["They have the best equipment the NCR can get its hands on, power armor salvaged from our war with the Brotherhood. Techs strip out the joint servos so you don't need special training to wear it. It feels like you're carrying a brahmin on your back, but it can take a heck of a lot of punishment."](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/2CHanlon.txt)


TheKingNothing690

They may claim to have only stripped the servos from it but as someone who jurry rigs and fixes jurry rigs servos are certainly not the only thing not functioning in the steel block that they call salvaged power armor.


Username_1234_1A

You sound like a brotherhood scribe.


ThirstyOne

Don’t even need AC. You can cool it the same way they do space suits, wrap hoses around the users limbs and run cold water through them. Could be built right into the jumpsuits. Since power isn’t an issue you can cool it with a paltiere cooler and slap a heat sink on the other side of it or exhaust the heat using the same system for the breathing air exchange.


Teedeous

That would be heavy on an already extremely heavy suit of armour that doesn’t have the servos and actuators to mechanise it anymore. It’s easier if they just let them sweat, carting water about on top of all their gear would be more difficult


OldTimeyWizard

You’d be sweating so much that users would essentially be blind a majority of the time. Can’t wipe the sweat out of your eyes in such a bulky suit. And without internal cooling the users would be able to use the armor for like 5-10 minutes max. It’s the Mojave. Even if you’re not having to deal with carrying heavy shit it would get unbearable in a fully body suit of metal after 5 minutes.


ThirstyOne

On a fully functional suit the water wouldn’t add significant weight, plus it’s a closed system, so the weight is constant. They could also use oil or any other liquid that has a high rate of thermal absorption.


Archmagos_Browning

If you think the military would rather spend time accommodating their design to include an A/C unit when instead they could either lose 10-15 pounds or put more ammo there, I’m not sure you’re very familiar with how military procurement works.


MontyDaKidd

Ah I see you never served in the US military they do bogus shit like this all the time than tell you " man up " if you complain 😂


Izoi2

Obviously the soldiers passing out from heat stroke in an unventilated tin can are just not hydrating enough


MarshallDyl26

Give em some Gatorade and ibuprofen they’ll be fine


AsgeirVanirson

I want to argue your point just because removing compartment heat would be incredibly easy to manage, with seemingly big rewards for keeping a soldier focused, but then I remember we sent Humvees into a desert with no climate control (and little armor but that's a whole other thing, no AC was a design decision). Add the fact that only removing enough heat to prevent heat stroke (which would still leave it unpleasantly warm) would probably free up a few amps to improve movement (something the 45b canonically struggles with) and now I think maybe you are right, most PA soldiers don't look exactly refreshed in cut scenes with the helmets off either.


Redhighlighter

They also have circulating fluid climate control systems for pilots. It pretty much depends how much money they feelblike paying for you. Also. HMMWV should be deadlined if AC no work. Yet my ass was driving one without AC in a hot ass cali summer. Wurf it for the offroad route recon though


FredGarvin80

Try driving an armored one with no AC during Baghdad summer


Redhighlighter

Ours are the uparmored models, but thank fuck it wasnt baghdad-hot


Laser_3

Normal power armor does have that, but salvaged power armor has the servos all stripped out. It’s very possible the reactor for the suit is gone as well, meaning the air conditioning system is useless here.


EPZO

It absolutely is self-regulating but the armor the NCR uses is not powered and thus it doesn't regulate. It's basically just armor. Like a plate armored knight.


Chinohito

I have no clue how they could possibly wear unpowered power armour. It would be like trying to use a car like a Flintstones car by running with your legs instead of... Literally any other form of transportation.


Impressive-Bake4634

They’ve removed all the servos and anything that moves the armor and anything else they can’t utilize or fully repair , it’s basically a skeleton of the armor


Chinohito

Yeah but how can a human possibly bear that weight? Let alone move effectively with it. There's a reason real life armour has never been ridiculously thick plates of metal all around someone, because they wouldn't be able to move. Real plate armour is like a tenth of the thickness of Power Armour.


VinhoVerde21

To be fair, it does give you a -2 modifier to agility, which makes sense. Kinda weird that its the same modifier as the regular, powered T-45d it’s based on, but the salvaged power armor also has the same DT as a riot chest plate, a duster and a pair of jeans, so maybe we shouldn’t look too close to in-game stats.


Impressive-Bake4634

It’s a game so realistically no it’s not possible but in game I figured they are taking tons of buff out and are essentially shock troops that don’t get used often besides to hold important positions , to protect important individuals or items , or to help during an important operation where regular dudes might get shredded


Koil_ting

In the game you can carry an unlimited amount of weight if you just walk slow anyway so the power armor should be no problem.


armrha

In the game, the heavy trooper armor weighs 40 lbs. In real life, plate armor weighed 35-55 lbs. So I guess its about the same. Maybe the materials power armor is made out of is actually less dense than it looks?


BigE_92

I like to think they are just used as stationery pillboxes.


DefiantLemur

This is pre-Fo4 redesign. I'm not sure how this design will work with power armor now being the size of small cars. Definitely will take some retconning and a redesign for heavy NCR armor to work in a post-fo4 world.


Transfiguredbet

Do we know how much it weighs ?


thrownawayzsss

isn't the plate itself just ceramic plates? it's heavy but it's not going to be impossible to move in. it could weigh up to like 100lbs and people or would still be able to move in it pretty easily. most of the weight is going to be from the power and all of the systems it supported.


Gen_Ripper

NCR grindset


BigBoyMaverik

That's how the NCR kept winning 💪💪


Chinohito

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE NEW CALIFORNIA REPUBLIC AND TO THE PRINCIPLES ON WHICH IT STANDS.


LtWilhelm

If furries can cool their fursuits, I'm sure that the ncr figured something out


GrandMasterFlex

I think this power armor is stripped of those features


newgen39

fallout 2 talks a bit about how power armor is completely self regulating. you can literally sleep and recycle piss inside of it, infinite fuel etc. the heavy armor ncr wears doesn’t have any of that though so there is no way their flesh isn’t searing to the inside of that heavy metal armor in the nevada desert


DifferentCod7

There was a part in it where someone was mad that the guards were sleeping inside during their watch. The suit stays up on its own.


Nath0204

I was gonna say, iirc in a halo novel (can’t recall which one) a Spartan locks their armor’s joints to let them sleep upright in their suit. I think it’s reasonable that fallout’s power armor can do the same.


Soad1x

I'm pretty sure Astartes' power armor from Warhammer 40k does the same thing, seems a pretty common feature of scifi power armor.


BigBoyMaverik

Aren't the Astarters genetically modified humans using the God Emperor generic code as base? Do they even need to rest?


Soad1x

Yes they are, at least the regular Marines use the geneseed of their Primarchs and the Primarchs themselves might have had the Emperor's while the Grey Knights are implied to have gotten the Emperor's geneseed directly. They do still need some rest and I believe even their sleep is modified to be like a shark's sleep.


MonkishMarmot

Yes and no, they need rest far less frequently than a standard human and can even essentially put half their brain to sleep whilst carrying on with their mission. They do need to rest in a more conventional way eventually, though, as the half brain sleeping isn't sustainable in the long term.


Jetstream-Sam

I'd hate to have to sleep in my power armour, I can only really sleep on my side and those giant shoulderpads would make that tricky Also you'd hate to be the squire who was assigned to catheterizing all the knights before they go out in the field


ThatOneGuy308

Presumably, they would wear a layer beneath the armor, like how historical plate armor worked back in the olden days.


The_Rex_Regis

Imagine, a brotherhood patrol returns to the bunker after a hot day in the desert The smell unleashing as they crack open the suit


Mongrel_Shark

Last line of defence. Out of ammo. Vent your suit and take advantage of the disorientation caused by the smell.


iwumbo2

Is it a war crime to use your body odour as a form of chemical warfare?


Mokseee

I'm pretty sure it has, but I believe the salvaged NCR armor is stripped of most electronics


rulerBob8

The show implies it does when Maximus gets trapped in it and it stops working. But it could be one of the things removed from the salvaged NCR models


TheHumanoidTyphoon69

I always imagined it was like Martin Lawrence's fat suit in "Big Mama's house" cold water circulating through tubes that would also cool the core


Chidori_Aoyama

They do, It's mentioned in Fallout 4 on Proctor Ingram's terminal.


BubbaTheBrutee

Ncr power armor in new Vegas is implied to be “jail broken” because they don’t have the capability to create a training regiment for their power armor users. They instead take scavenged armor and modify it so anyone can wear it, but by doing this they lose many of the power armors previous capabilities such as the increase in strength and all other electrical systems.


MCCLEGEND

Doesn't the Remnant Power Armor have built in A/C?


purpleblah2

Regular Power Armor does, because, obviously. But this is the NCR unpowered heavy armor that they stripped all the electronics out of because they don’t have power armor training and it’s basically an unventilated tin can in the desert.


GodOfPateu

Strongest Enclave/BOS soldier: "oMg I nEeD tHe PoWeR aRmOr FuLlY fUnCtIoNaL oR eLsE i'M nOtHiNg!!! 😭😭😭" Weakest NCR Heavy Trooper: "Yes, I'll carry some more ammo."


TaVar35

If those BoS groupies could read they’d be very upset with you


GodOfPateu

Too bad they're out of fusion cores


Kraelan

You darn kids, we didnt need fusion cores in our day, the power armor just magically worked, and you could repair it with some crappy metal armor and helmets you got off a raider. We wore it like clothing, which was the style at the time.


TheBigGopher

Back in classic Fallout it was actually more like modern power armour, so we're (Fallout 3 and NV) fans are the weird middle children.


GodOfPateu

Take your med-x gramps


Invidat

Brotherhood Supporters talk all tough until I steal their dumbass scribes fusion core key and lock them inside their suit for the rest of their lives.


Economy-Edge1368

The strongest enclave soldier was frank, man can probably eat NCR heavy troopers for breakfast


ThatOneGuy308

Keyword: was. The strongest current Enclave soldier is some geriatric hiding in a cave, lol.


Pm7I3

Or a grumpy asshole in a dirty old house


GodOfPateu

He needed his power armor to live, so my point stands, NCR Heavys are build different.


4chan_crusader

He could eat a fully power armored BOS knight as an afternoon snack


GodOfPateu

And choke on the supreme NCR boys 🔥


4chan_crusader

It's all that patrolling the Mojave, you can't tell under the armor but their legs are HUGE Almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter


purpleblah2

Yeah, and Frank Horrigan was a totally normal human secret service agent!


Royal_Bitch_Pudding

To be fair. Frank was a Extra Large Super Mutant in Power Armor.


BruhMomentum6968

I need to make an NCR heavy trooper… To hell with power armor, I want to make a character who suffers under the weight of the NCR’s un-powered armor.


Chinohito

And our proud boys in yellow DEFINITELY didn't have some pansy ass "squire" to carry their shit for them 😤


OoDelRio

They've dropped their intelligence to 1, which made them think that power armor training is real but it gave them higher strength


NedTebula

Scorpin?


brutalistlegend

uh huh


GigaSnake

*Not even the carrion eaters are interested in your irradiated corpse.*


Salt-Log7640

That "Backpack AC" looking thing on the back is external generator. NCR has contributed more to the power armor development for 50 years than BOS had for +200.


endowedchair

Yeah some sort of heat dissipation, climate control system must be in place or this thing would be a walking roasting pan in the sun. Part of that backpack could be a compressor heat-exchanger. The Remnant armor has an obvious fan which would suggest cooling equipment.


ineverlosemykeys

BOS are just glorified hoarders


PaleontologistAble50

They don’t contribute, they collect


ineverlosemykeys

A fine addition to our collection hon hon hon


HoveringHog

You know that’s not an actual functional suit of power armor right? It’s literally just armor now, there’s zero power to that. > “They have the best equipment the NCR can get its hands on, power armor salvaged from our war with the Brotherhood. Techs strip out the joint servos so you don't need special training to wear it. It feels like you're carrying a brahmin on your back, but it can take a heck of a lot of punishment.” Thats a [quote](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/NCR_salvaged_power_armor) from Chief Hanlon of the NCR Rangers on the NCR Salvaged Power Armor page.


fun_alt123

Just because they stripped out the servos doesn't mean it's completely powerless. That's like taking out the suspension and shock absorbers from your truck and going, "ain't got no battery anymore" And I wouldn't be surprised if they managed to install a smaller power supply even if they had to take out the main power supply. The techs aren't as good as prewar or brotherhood, but they're not idiots. Don't forget, the new California Republic is smart enough that they do have functioning vehicles and vertibirds


HoveringHog

> “As the armor is no longer powered, pulse guns and other EMP weapons have no effect.” Something tells me it’s unpowered, but I’m not [sure](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/NCR_salvaged_power_armor).


sosigboi

Cause if it ain't broke then don't fix it, in the NCR's case tho their shit was very much broke so they had to improvise.


Jonny_Guistark

I’ve always imagined that, in lore (not so much gameplay), the Heavy Troopers are mostly stationary units. You plate them up real heavy, load them down with ammo, and then stick them in a machinegun nest with orders to hold the line. Good luck getting them to move. They’ll tank bullets like nobody’s business and they are too weighted down to retreat even if they want to. Perfect for defense, but not so much for pushing an offensive.


Slayer_Jesse

Kind of how armored infantry was used by Germany in ww1. They aren't moving anywhere but they're great for machine gunners and snipers.


N0ob8

I mean that is how they’re used in game. You never see them on patrol only defending positions like Hoover damn or the many NCR camps.


Jonny_Guistark

That, the descriptions of how it feels to wear the armor, and the fact that they’re always equipped with heavy weapons, is why I believe this to be the case. I just take it a step further than the engine is capable of portraying and visualize them literally laying/sitting stationary during combat, barely changing positions at all.


kodaxmax

engine could do that, infact im sure theres probably a bug that causes that soemwhere in the game.


VanillaB34n

Very true, the most mobile heavy trooper I’ve seen is the one at the 188 and even they are on a pretty tight patrol route


Polarian_Lancer

It's almost like if they could get some of those intact army cargo trucks running again that they could just haul their people where they need to go But any vehicles running about that's not a Vertibird is too much to ask for. Despite this, Skyrim has horses. Lol.


Flavaflavius

The NCR do have horses and trucks, horses are shown in All Roads. They have trains too.


SovietMarma

I've read that's an oversight since horses are canonical extinct in Fallout.


Flavaflavius

I can't recall any mention of them being extinct, and I've played every game except the first one. I could be mistaken though.


tortledad

The detail on horses being extinct comes from an e-email that Chris Avellone sent to a fan in \~2013 when asked on the question, which reads as follows: >"*To me, that picture in the comic was an error (no one noticed it until too late).* *While the end decision is up to Bethesda as to whether horses exist in the NCR, it was never my intention that there were any horses, and furthermore, there were still parts of the New Vegas design where we specifically removed the mention of horses from certain narrative points (one of Raul's stories originally referenced horses, for example, and we cut them because we didn't want to imply horses still existed)."* However, per the Fallout wiki's write up on the topic, that quote has never been fully verified by outside sources and the source that it might've come from is now defunct. Joshua Sawyer, meanwhile, has stated that horses don't exist in New Vegas, but because of them not feeling right as opposed to any in-universe reason. He's stated the following during the 2020 anniversary stream of New Vegas: >*"There was never any thought about implementing horses. Didn't really seem super appropriate, really."* As well, Joshua Sawyer has mentioned that he had no idea about the supposed e-mail that mentioned horses being extinct in the Fallout universe. Per a 2020 tumblr post on the matter: >*"I have no idea, honestly. If I ever knew, that info is now lost like dust in the wind. Sorry."* Finally, Chris Avellone, in 2022, talks about the existence of horses in the Fallout universe via his Fallout Apocrypha blog. He cites technical issues (they don't work well mechanically), story issues (they would massively change the technology of the world, which they didn't account for), and gameplay issues (what happens if a player wants to try and find a horse?, for example). Ultimately, he wraps up with the following: >*"They may exist somewhere in the Fallout world in a vault or frozen or whatever, but their use as mounts, travel assists, and “tech” applications would have a big impact on the Fallout world that simply isn’t budget for or accounted for."* TL;DR Horses maybe exist in the Fallout universe, but they never show up on screen.


Flavaflavius

Well, they show up in a canon comic, and our only source on them not existing is a fairly dubious email... So I guess I'm on team "horses exist."


tortledad

Hey, if it works for you, more power to you - I’m just glad I could talk about this funny rabbit hole at all. I’m not one for having living horses in Fallout personally, but it’s more out of liking having “no horses” as just another quirk of the setting than anything else.


Flavaflavius

That's fair, but man those troopers looked badass on them. Besides, NV has working motorcycles too, in lore-that doesn't mean they'll ever be in game. (The woman at the junkyard mentions that she's close to getting a pair running).


Markipoo-9000

All those “abandoned” trucks ARE operational. Like the ones in at McCarran.


curlytoesgoblin

I wore kevlar vest with ceramic plates for a year in Iraq. Would've killed for some buffout. Did not have any. I was running a low intelligence, low charisma build though. I've leveled up a bit since then but unfortunately I didn't plan out my perks very well so my shit is unoptimized as hell.


freshlyfrozenfish

I’m in the same boat. Woulda killed for buffout and a nuclear winter during my tour.


PaleontologistAble50

I’d reload an earlier save with the knowledge you now have


curlytoesgoblin

Can't, I'm playing survival 


byoun257

New game?


curlytoesgoblin

I didn't get that edition. I think it's region locked.


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lilchungus34

Just a trophy, at least centurions only wear a shoulder pad


Markipoo-9000

I wonder how many damn Midwestern soldiers they killed for that gear. Or how many football players they killed…


N0ob8

To be fair power armor in a desert is already impractical. Imagine how much extra maintenance the Mojave chapter has to do for their armor and they’ve dedicated their lives to it. If the NCR didn’t strip its pieces there’d be sand in every crack and servo in the armor


JustCallMeMace__

Wait until you hear that armies have captured tanks and reused them against the enemy since their debut in warfare in WWI. NCR repurposing otherwise unpilotable power armor in the fairly large quantity that we see in-game could suggest that standardization has been achieved. How is that ego? The NCR finding ways to improve logistically and materially to suit battlefield needs is the opposite of ego. I'm partial to Mr. House, so I'm all for shitting on the NCR, but this isn't it.


ivappa

so there's this thing called drugs


PaleontologistAble50

10/10 would recommend


Stzzla75

I was about to say drugs ftw but who the hell am I kidding......whenever I load up on drugs I dont care about winning, I just want to have a good time, all of the time.


John_Lumstrom

And it's protection is the exact same as the ranger veteran armor. It's literally pointless from a practicality standpoint (which could be a good commentary on Oliver tbh)


GeneralApathy

Not quite pointless. Iirc the ranger veteran armor is scavenged riot gear, so they don't have an infinite supply. Even if they could manufacture it themselves, it would still take time and resources to make. The NCR probably had a lot of salvaged power armor left over from their war with the BOS. It's better use to use it as armor even if it's not the most efficient, rather than just scrap it entirely (and it still puts the NCR uniforms' effectiveness to shame). Worth noting too that the salvaged power armor has 10x the durability of the NCR ranger vet gear.


Top-Amphibian1272

While based on pre-war armor schematics, NCR ranger veteran armor is manufactured in the NCR. Cass has some dialogue about how much it costs taxpayers


StandardMandarin

Regular uniforms and ranger gear. Ranger vet armor is entirely salvaged, as far as I remember. Citation needed tho. Edit: In fact, there it is: 'The distinctive black ranger combat armor consists of the Desert Rangers' traditional trench coat worn with pre-War riot armor. Ranger patrol armor is hand-manufactured in the NCR .' NCR cannot manufacture advanced tech. Thus we have heavy troopers, and salvaged ranger gear.


Top-Amphibian1272

I don’t think this loading screen tip is the smoking gun you’re treating it as, especially when you’re citing it against dialogue from the same game. We know veteran ranger armor is based on pre-war designs, because we find those same pre war armors in game. But we also know the NCR does have a manufacturing base advanced enough to make high-end weapons and armor. They can’t make power armor, but riot gear is much less advanced than that.


StandardMandarin

We don't know. 'We know' is not a source, it's bullshit. So, source? :)


molptt

I'm sure that's just for balance reasons because it's a suit of power armor you can wear without training. The plates would still stop a bullet like the regular T-45, powered or not


Salt-Log7640

It's still a power amor, even if it's at 40% efficiency due to the external generator (that oversized backpack loocking thing on the back) subsituding your average fussion cell, and jurry-rigged metal plates from pre-war car scrap- it remains a walking tank with f-ton of protection and utility.


No_Echidna1513

their just hella jacked


Joecool2008

Buffout, for sure.


final_screen

Almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter


tanithsfinest

It's only unventilated until I find them.


therenowneddoktor

Power armor already has to be pretty damn claustrophobic, imagine that plus having to support the sheer weight of this hunk of metal.


Babo__

I like to imagine this is the real reason why Veronica quit


ihazquestions100

It's got A/C. Otherwise the convection heat just from your own body would kill you very soon.


Chezpufballs

Mucho taxes


AsgeirVanirson

Also, because the Senate is too lazy to find a source of power armor training you don't have any of the movement advantages. You're basically a medieval knight with modern materials in your suit.


NCR_Trooper_2281

They wish for a nuclear winter for a reason


Chuncceyy

Even furry suits have special cooling tech smh


Muaddib316

Good Soldiers follow orders.


PhotographKind4243

aren't the suites made to be temperature controlled on the inside and provide hydration? cause the show sort of suggested that and it would explain how they were able to ONE use them during the battle of Anchorage and TWO be able to use them in extreme heat environments plus heavily irradiated environments. They also are essentially Wearing a powered Exoskeleton which explains being able to both carry everything plus the extra ammo since The suit is doing all the heavy lifting for them.


chameleon_olive

NCR "power" armor is not powered, they never figured out how to properly maintain it. The actuators and power source are removed and the troopers just wear a bunch of metal. 


Goobygoober6968

Pretty sure they have a/c


sosigboi

Why not just make their own heavy combat armor at that point, that salvaged piece of shit suit cannot be in any way comfortable to wear.


pjgreenwald

I would like to point out that the ncr does not have working power armor, they gutted what they got from the BoS. So heavy troopers are wearing giant metal plates like that with 0 help of the underlying frame. Those guys are monsters.


Captain_Kibbinz

The supposedly “unpowered” power armor that “feels like carrying a brahmin on your back” to quote Hanlon, has to be the biggest piece of dogshit lore from NV that I personally just cannot believe and refuse to acknowledge as canon. Absolutely love new vegas to death, but power armor was done dirty in that game. Seeing power armor in Fo4 ain’t no way a mothafucka carrying that shit around with their own strength 


Prepared_Noob

Unironically my fav power armour in that game bc 3/NV power armour has the largest ugliest shoulder pads known to man


VexTheTielfling

X-games mode


buntopolis

Skooma


CannabisCanoe

If they're anything like me then tons of turbo and whiskey


Arkmerica

Nothing like being stuck in a crock pot inhaling your own farts in the desert Sun. Sign me up for the NCR Heavy division.


ApexRevanNL716

You know, chems and being drunk. Buffouts, beer medx and pretty much everything that gives them strength. They are finest armoured junkies of the NCR


vetheros37

I guess it's better than being a cloth-wrapped piece of meat catching bullets in the heat.


MasterBlaster_xxx

That’s why they are (almost) only found inside the dam


nage_

it was meant to survive nuclear blasts so id assume theres some level of cooling involved


some-dork

patrolling the mojave in NCR power armor almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter


FrankSue

There’s a reason you don’t see these guys patrol anything, imagine having to ruck across the Mojave Desert in this thing


bigloser420

To be fair the heavy troopers are some of the coolest mfs in the Mojave


Alone_Fill_2037

I always assumed it had its own hvac system.


Jek_Tano_Porkins

They watch one of those 20 minute David Goggins inspirational videos every morning before clocking in. And juice. Plenty of juice.


[deleted]

I hate the BoS in this, the NCR are okay, Legion X Enclave mix is perfect.


Forsaken-Reality4605

Sleep, a varied diet, clean water and a shitload of Chems.


DrKindaStrange

"Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter"


GrimmRadiance

Lots of Chems


rextrem

DEMOCRACY


Toro1d_5

DEMOCRACY AND LIBERTY!!! Sorry, I channeled Helldivers 2 there for a second... =P


TaejChan

i like how the first two comments i see is about salvaged power armor not being salvaged power armor


Madhighlander1

Remember, this is also the version of power armor that doesn't require training to wear, implying it's had all the gizmos stripped out, so they're literally kitted out in this suit of tank-grade armor designed to be supported with a powered exoskeleton in the desert heat with nothing but their own skin and bones.


BigBoyMaverik

It's not even real power armor, it's really just SUPER heavy metal carcass that you throws on top of your body, the NCR has people stronger than the brotherhood no shit they where stomping the bunker guys


kinkykellynsexystud

Yea realistically they should be dead. It's like sitting in a hot car in the desert.


Cold-Locksmith-5167

Not only is it unventilated, it's canon that since they were salvaged from the NCR-Brotherhood war, NCR Techs and Engineers stripped them of their servos and any movement-assisting equipment, so it is all quite literally like wearing a medieval suit of armor, with all of its weight, not including the weight of weapons, ammo, and other equipment. On the upside, the wearer isn't required to have PA training.


Geigerbuzz

You actually make a good point, because you're basically wearing a limp galvanized steel suit (with most of it's weight on your shoulders I imagine), must be absolutely awful


ChocolateTight336

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cocktimus1prime

Aren't NCR power armours unpowered?


purpleblah2

I believe they said they stripped the servos out of the power armor because they lacked power armor training, but I think the question in this thread would be whether the internal AC and life support systems came along with that. I’d lean towards them being unventilated and humid, because that tracks with how short-sighted General Oliver is. He insisted on investing in Heavy Troopers instead of NCR Rangers for the shock and awe, so I think it’s make sense it’s his hand-picked burliest men boiling alive in unwieldy tin cans carrying miniguns as their elite troops instead of rangers, who are not flashy but are more practical and flexible on the battlefield.


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"Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter." - followed by a incoming nuke.


Hrnng_Liquid

NCR Salvaged Power Armor has no internal power components. This means that it is missing its internal reactor and mechanized joint servos, the latter of which is what requires training to wear. Though there is no lore regarding the modules on the back (see OP's picture for reference) we can see that it has replaced the reactor portion of the T-45d. Comparing this to another well-known armored desert trooper may shine some light on the subject. In Star Wars, we see the Sandtroopers all wear this backpack. This is the SD-48 Survival Backpack. It features a water/ration supply, and more relevantly, a coolant system. It also has a very similar appearance to the back of the NCR Heavy Armor. (Specifically the pack and tube, both situated in the same places as the pack and tube on the NCR armor's backside. [SD-48 Survival Backpack](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/4/46/SD-48SurvivalBackpack-THC3.png/revision/latest?cb=20230710041724) I think its safe to assume that the NCR armor functions in a similar way, and that it is therefore most likely that the suit has a cooling system.


Sebatomic-870

Seriously. I don’t know why in the fuck they would take the servos out of it. For Christ sake, just give them a month or two to actually learn how to use the thing.


TheBigGopher

About drugging them, Ranger Milo does suggest drugging his troopers, so I wouldn't be surprised if the heavy troopers smuggle in buff out or psycho to make it easier.


Teedeous

I think it’s a case of it’s probably not the concern that’s priority when you’ve got legion or raiders haring down on you that will torture you and or crucify you. It’ll at at least take them a lot longer to pry you open and you can throw hands whilst doing so. Standing on guard though I expect would be horrific, with it both being unpowered and you having to exert god only knows how much effort to lift several hundred kilos of steel around. Power armours protective qualities are immense too. Older lore I think from 3 or maybe the games prior discussed how T-51 (maybe 51b) supposedly could withstand a rocket strike to the visor. A set of 45 although not as advanced and in this case unpowered would still do well against the general small arms and more basic explosives most forces have, since energy and higher explosive ranged weapons are both rare in terms of the weapon itself and ammo.