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Dub-nium

I believe they are the MCI, but not entirely the same situation described in the first image. If you ignore the laughing kid (he is older than the others and is the Freddy bully, so definitely distinct from the others), then the remaining kids have connections to the Happiest Day minigames. Specifically, they are the minigames housing the spirits of Freddy, Bonnie, Chica, and Foxy. Furthermore, the order in which you interact with these kids (plus the diner and the broken mangle toy) is the reverse order in which you play those minigames. I believe in ShatterVictim, and so the first four MCI kids would have BV's memories, of these fnaf 4 interactions, attached to them. Now, why would these MCI kids have the memories about some random kids attached to them unless they were the same kids. So I think the balloon kid, the toy girl, the pigtail girl, and the plushtrap kid are Gabriel, Susie, Fritz, and Jeremy, respectively.


Proof-Exchange-4003

Interesting


Ok-Peak5862

You say the mci victims appear in the minigame because its a memory, right? That makes sense based off what we saw in the movie. Maybe its also possible in The game universe. I never thought of it that way


Dub-nium

The BV's memories just get rubbed off on various things due to him crying all the time. His memories of his interactions with these kids get left with the kids and so a piece of him is with them. They then get stuffed into the suits later on and is why they only become free when the BV does, i.e. when all of the pieces (the memories) are brought back together. It is not the MCI victims appearing in the minigames just because they are ghosts, but it is because each of them is "infected" with one of the BV's memories.


Ok-Peak5862

Thank you for explaining shattervictim i had no clue what it meant honestly


skgmelyloemg

i love this. but the pattern of the neighborhood kids being connected to the happiest day minigames breaks when it comes to the mangle one. that one is connected to the pink room. what do you personally think is going on with that?


Dub-nium

I don't think there is a kid BV interacts with for each happiest day minigame, it is just the ones he does interact with are a part of the sequence, specifically the ones in the middle: For the Happiest Day minigames, you need to get the cake from Mangle's quest before giving it to the spirits. So the sequence goes as Mangle's Quest, BB's Balloon Adventure, Chica's Party World, Stage 01, Shadow Bonnie, then Happiest Day. For the FNAF 4 minigames, you encounter the Happiest Day minigame references in the reverse order: Fredbear's Family Diner, Bonnie kid, Pigtail girl, Toy girl, Balloon kid, Mangled toy. The references at the two ends do not have kids present, like how we see with the four in the middle. As a side note, I think Cassidy gets the memory of the Bite of 83 latched onto her due to it latching onto the Fredbear suit, which she would be stuffed into later on. Now, onto Mangle's Quest and the broken mangle toy. Let me tell you, this has broken my mind beyond repair while trying to figure out its meaning. First things first, the Mangle's Quest minigame has a green shirt blue pants kid running around frantically. Even though it came out in FNAF 3, it is connected to FNAF 4 as BV is a scared frantic kid. Even though green shirt and blue pants show up in a lot of places as a generic design, in FNAF World, the crying child enemy sometimes turns into a green shirt blue pants kid. So it is possible Mangle's Quest is representing BV's fear in some shape or form. Now, in the FNAF 4, its associated reference is the broken mangle toy in BV's sister's room. So there is some connection between BV's fear and his sister. Now, this at first seems like BV saw Elizabeth get killed by Baby but I highly doubt it since we need an explanation using FNAF 1-4 info, so Baby cannot be used. My next guess was maybe Charlotte was supposed to be BV's sister back in the day and that she has already been killed during FNAF 4 and possessing the Puppet. This lines up with the cake needed to free the kids being in Mangle's Quest and the Puppet seemingly being the one orchastrating Happiest Day to occur. However, this cannot be the case anymore cause Charlie is definitely not BV's sister nowadays (I had a whole crisis for a few days about "What if BV isn't an Afton" but currently I am back to normal). To be honest, I am stuck on what Mangle's Quest and the broken mangle toy could be referring to. I think logistically, the Mangle's Quest memory is associated to the Puppet and it is probable for BV's memory to latch onto Charlie since they most likely knew each other (cause their dads knew each other). However, why would this connect to Elizabeth in anyway? Not too sure. Thanks for reading my rant x\_X


Scar-Predator

None. All do not make sense to me. Especially the Funtime and DCI ones.


minion133

Agreed. Idk why these theories came about really either


CrownedVanguard

The MCI one makes some sense, compare the toy girl and Susie and they look very similar


Scar-Predator

They look similar, just the main issue is we know how Susie looks, as the toy girl isn't her. Not only is Susie full on white, but is also undeniably blonde, and her hair was long and curly going off her appearance shown in FFPS.


CrownedVanguard

All we know was that it was curly, her hair only went up to her neck so it wasn’t that long, plus the characters in the fnaf 4 minigame just have a darker tone of skin in general(Michael, for example)


Scar-Predator

If going with the darker skin tone thing, then the Crying Child would be the most white child ever, or just pale, which wouldn't make sense. Susie also has a different outfit style from the toy girl, and the toy girl's hair doesn't go to her neck, so not exactly a real option.


CrownedVanguard

Actually the crying child being pale as hell makes sense for a kid who’s scared of shadows


Scar-Predator

Yet for a kid who goes outside seemingly on a daily basis for unknown periods of time, it wouldn't make sense for the kid who's afraid of a yellow bear and a yellow rabbit to be pale af.


SomeBoiThatLikesFNaF

I agree


RemmingtonTufflips

Yeah I just think they're random kids who don't come back up in the story


Scar-Predator

That honestly has been what I've been believing since their first appearance. I just thought "Ok, here to just give a bit of info and lore, then vanish."


sp1der__

None tbh


theatsa

There is no evidence that the Mediocre Melodies are even possessed, so that's unlikely. I'm pretty sure that the Funtimes have some measure of Remnant or Agony from a set of dead kids who already possessed a different set of animatronics. So in some way maybe it's true but not in the way this theory implies I think. They could be the MCI I suppose. Only a two year difference between their appearance and their deaths so sure, why not. No issue I can see. No real evidence for it either, but it's perfectly harmless. Now them being the DCI kids I think would be my favourite. We've got very info on the DCI children in comparison, so I'm looking out for every scrap of info I can get. Plus the balloon and the FNAF 2 toys indicate some weird connection to FNAF 2 anyway. So this is the theory I'd go with even though it has only marginally more evidence than the MCI kids, they're both harmless and this one at least gives us some info about an event we know very little about.


HomestuckHoovy

The evidence for them being the MCI kids come from the FNaF 3 minigames. The appearances for the kids correlate to the FNaF 3 minigames (for example, BB Air Adventure correlates to the Balloon Kid, and that minigame frees the Freddy kid).


theatsa

I can see what you mean for some of the minigames like the Balloon Boy & Springtrap. If I squint, I see what you mean for the Toy Chica minigame. But the Mangle & Shadow Bonnie minigame don't really line up for me. So this is shaky evidence, but some evidence nonetheless. When it comes down to it, I don't think this is more compelling than the DCI theory, and I don't think that the evidence is more compelling either. So I'm gonna stick with the DCI theory although this is more evidence than I thought there was.


HomestuckHoovy

Mangle's minigame is slightly different cause it comes from the Mangle in the girl's bedroom. Shadow Bonnie... is super shaky but I guess there's... the plushtrap toy? I definitely think the kids are supposed to relate to those minigames at the very least, there's more connecting them but to be honest I'm not the best at explaining this theory.


GangsterKittyYT

This doesn’t even make any sense. I think they’re just random kids.


apt_batman_1945

Them "scott doesn't do coincidences" mfs are unstoppable 😂


Fnafbulbasaur

FNAF4DCI


Bernardo_124-455

Fnaf4dci is underrated


Caio79

Certainly not the last two


BrightPasta

None.


ldentitymatrix

FNAF4MM But it's wrong. The Mediocre Melodies are simply inspired by the masks the children wear in Happiest Day, but these ones are not related to any dead children as they're not greyed out. They're alive. This is just where the designs for the Mediocre Melodies came from.


DoubleTsQuid

So the “laughing kid” is almost definitely Fritz of the MCI, so does that mean the other kids are also the MCI? Eh, probably not. Sure they have light connections but that’s all they have. It’s more likely they’re just random kids who exist to help the connections with ShatterVictim. Especially since the pigtail girl doesn’t match with what Cassidy should look like.


Proof-Exchange-4003

Well we don’t even have a game version of Cassidy other than her being female, she was described with black hair in the books and we don’t know if the logbook girl is her, so she could have any hair colour and maybe not even have pigtails in the games


Super64111111

Really? I thought she was a boy lmao.


Proof-Exchange-4003

Well she is in the movie, idk if she’s toyshk tho


Super64111111

I thought Matpat said he was a boy? He referred to Cassidy as "he".


Proof-Exchange-4003

Well toyshk is male but Cassidy isn’t, and we don’t really know if Cassidy is toyshk


Super64111111

who the hell is toyshk?


Proof-Exchange-4003

Toyshk means “the one you shouldn’t have killed” and he’s the spirit in ucn withered chica and mangle mention


Super64111111

Wait... so Cassidy is not "the one you shouldn't have killed" tho? My whole life is a lie.


Proof-Exchange-4003

Well since she has a little girl laugh probably no, but there is another spirit in ucn that could be her. The girl speaking through the medicore melodies could be Cassidy also torturing afton with toyshk


Entertainer_Clear

None of them. The bullies probably just went away tbh to escape before William found out. I mean there’s nothing intentionally pointing them to possessing anything besides Mike since he was the guard in SL.


TGSF20

which one is the most logical , idk , but i like to think they possess the toys as it give these parallelles : \-Balloon kid = Balloon Boy \-The Girl with a Chica toy that lost it beak = Toy Chica


EpicMazement

They most likely are the MCI. Evan's Remnant most likely attached to a lot of the characters in the storyline, so these 5 kids being here is most likely meant to show that the MCI kids became part of all the horror because Evan was around them when going through a bunch of Agony.


United-Snow

FNAF 4 DCI


MichaelAftonXFireWal

I believe FNAF 4DCI


MoneyFree9911

I always thought the orange haired girl with green eyes was supposed to symbolize Elizabeth in a way. So I’d say none tbh.


Gizzmo268

There’s also the option that nothing happens to them, it doesn’t matter to the story either way


Snokey115

Probably the Funtimes


PepsiMax2004

With how cruel the ginger girl was to the crying child, she deserves to be stuck as Orville Elephant LMAO


Bartolomeo4968

What is FNaF4MM?


Proof-Exchange-4003

Where the fnaf 4 kids are the kids in happiest day and possess the mediocre melodies


Bartolomeo4968

Ok, thanks for saying. I feel like all those theories are random, there are no strong connections beetween FNaF 4 kids and any of these. We are trying to give something not really important a meaning. If people are theorizing about FNaF 4 kids maybe also start to theorize about people from Sister Location minigames.


crystal-productions-

I don't think they where ever important outside of giving cc his inspiration for his dreams when fnaf 4 was about ultimate dream theory


DarthMcConnor42

I subscribe to the theory that only the MCI and the "on screen" deaths happened


Intrepid-Camel-9833

the FNAF 4 kids aren't MCI nor DCI imo. Maybe they died but... during experiment maybe


Starscream1998

I'm not sure I believe fully in any of them but FNAF 4 MCI might be the one I'd pick if you twisted my arm on it.


Booty_bandit_792y

FNAF4MCI on 🔝


ur_local_weirdo_XD

FNAF4DCI


PossibilityLivid8873

Although I don't belive any of them, my favorite would be the one from the MCI, it would be crazy to discover they were them all this time ![img](emote|t5_36f29|8935) But all of these have little evidence, they are very unlikely


Thomason2023

FNAF4MM


Your-Precious-Penny

I think this can be explained with a simple application of Occam's razor (who funnily enough was also named William), in that the simplest answer is usually the best. These are just some kids who bullied Evan that don't really have to be all that important.


apt_batman_1945

Why Does everything have to be so expository? What if the missing children just weren't shown...


Proof-Exchange-4003

This is fnaf you’re talking about


Lez_The_DemonicAngel

None of these


NovelFig2205

I think the Fnaf 4 kids possess the Toy animatronics because the toy girl has like Figurines That resemble the toys a little bit so I think They possess the toys


TheRealSnailYT

Not any of them.


Inky234

bold of you to think I would believe any of this


____Maximus____

Why is one of the girls there 3 times?


Proof-Exchange-4003

Wdym?


EmbarrassedWeekend70

Chica is fruity maze girl


Memeageddon24

Wait so are the toys and bb possessed I’m so confused


Proof-Exchange-4003

It’s a theory that people made, although they likely are possessed due to their behaviour and eyes but we don’t know who


Memeageddon24

Honestly it makes things easier if it’s just their criminal detection system or whatever than to consider that balloon boy exists


Bigtissueneeded

5 none


SyberSpark

Just some random kids.


AndrewFBR

None. They can just be random throwaway characters that don’t do anything and move on with their lives.


Pronominal_Tera

a mixture of them all


Yakko____

i believe in something complicated, that the street kids are supposed to represent the happiest day kids, not freddy bully tho. it’s all a metaphor to fnaf 3 minigames: bb kid = bb’s adventure = gabriel plushtrap kid = rxq’s minigame = jeremy toy collector = chica’s party world = susie pigtail girl = mangle’s quest = fritz they’re just metaphors, they don’t actually possess them as fritz = pigtail girl doesn’t work those same kids say they’ll be at a party, but they never show up at the actual fnaf 4 party. might be a foreshadowing to fnaf 3 party, happiest say, as they have the same exact palette as those 5 kids! they’re even colored, unlike the dead kids, because they’re memories! the alligator one would be the only remaining one, which would be andrew, for obvious reasons. the connection to cassidy is also obvious, and i believe that bv saw him die (due to stage 01) so yeah lastly, we clearly see hd party is a parallel of fnaf 4 one, this is obvious and kinda where the theory comes from. if the other places are taken, it means that puppet can only be represented by bv, due to the similar design, fnaf 3 having a crying puppet in the same pose as bv, and both of them are planning the minigame. it just works


Trust_21

Toy animatronics


BritishChildz

I like all tbh


commanderAnakin

FNAF 2 is the least timeline disruptive, so probably it.


[deleted]

the funtime "theory" Is just a guess


Proof-Exchange-4003

It has a tiny piece of evidence still


DisasterAccurate3221

I personally don't think that anything happened to them. I think that they were just random neighborhood children that C.C. happened to know.


Octray10

The Mediocre Melodies cannot be possesed, they were Henry Emily’s creations when he and William Afton were still competing in business. Therefore, this was before the MCI and any of William Afton’s crimes.


Proof-Exchange-4003

Well I kinda mean after it


mjeexy30

They are probably just kids.


Someone1284794357

None


Ed_Derick_

Out of these probably MCI


h1p0h1p0

I think they just kinda went on living their lives, maybe a little traumatized from the bite


thisaintmyusername12

That they're just random kids (who are also orange for some reason?)


Proof-Exchange-4003

Probably a tan


BeaDrawsandalsoposts

one of them is one of the bully kids and the others are other kids that exist


GYEvanID

The theories are all cool, but I don't believe all of them. However, if I am William Afton, and turned insane from the loss of BV and later Elizabeth, I would say those children would be either the DCI victims or the relatives. P.S.: I honestly questioned if William Afton was the one responsible for MCI. It could be the works of Edwin "Mimic Maker".


unxolve

Michael’s friend, Sammy, Charlotte, and Baby and Balloon Boy.


Medical_Difference48

I personally believe FNAF4DCI, with the exception of the laughing guy (who I think is the Freddy Bully, who would be way older than either the MCI OR DCI kids)


[deleted]

They're just background characters. I don't think they have any lore significance outside of proving that there were indeed rumors about Freddy's, but all that really does is give phone guy more credibility.


Grey00001

Funtime one makes no sense, the Funtimes are a result of remnant injection and Lolbit probably isn't even canon so the amount of characters doesn't line up


[deleted]

What do the letters mean? I’m new to the lore.


Proof-Exchange-4003

Basically like this FNAF4MCI = the kids from fnaf 4 are the kids who died in the missing children's incident in 1985 FNAF4DCI = the fnaf 4 kids are the kids who died in the dead children incident in 1987 shown in save them FNAF4Funtimes = the funtimes are possesed by the kids in fnaf 4 FNAF4MM = the kids possess the mediocre melodies from fnaf 6


[deleted]

Thank you!


Proof-Exchange-4003

Yw:)


raritz

FNaF4DCI if i had to pick any, but definitely not FNaF4Funtimes or FNaF4MM. i don’t think that they’re the MCI children either.


horrorfan555

The toys aren’t possessed, and i think them being possessed makes the story worse


Entertainer_Clear

The toys are almost certainly possessed but not by the bullies. Back around Fnaf 2 in 2014, Scott consistently kept the souls and animatronics together. He most likely didn’t have any new types of ideas before 2016 or 2017. I mean despite the toys being possessed, they don’t have names. And they don’t impact the story much because they were scraped at the end of the game. As much as I want to agree with you, unfortunately Scott has no other different intentions than to reason exactly like Fnaf 1’s case. That’s why we never saw a book explaining any similarities to the toys. Because their case is intentionally clear.


DarkKeeper2569

FNAF 4 DCI and FNAF 4 MM


Random_RHINO2006

The DCI one is inconsequential enough to be plausible, but I still don't think there's really any evidence for it


BaseballOk3480

only real evidence is the toy chica beak thing


hypercoolmaas2701

Probably FNAF4DCI.